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(Chron)   Chavez reminds the U.S. why Saudi Arabia is a key ally by telling OPEC they should blackmail the world with oil to end imperialism by people other than himself. Bonus: Saudi king's quotes sound eerily sane   (chron.com) divider line 250
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2007-11-19 10:21:26 AM
Jeezuz. He's starting to sound like the Stewie Griffin of world leaders.
 
2007-11-19 10:27:04 AM
As a bonus, the Saudi king's quotes sound eerily sane.

You must mean Prince Faisal's quotes, which usually sound sane.
 
2007-11-19 10:43:35 AM
As much as I despise the current administration, I don't think I could get too upset if they tossed a few cruise missiles at this guy's mansion.
 
2007-11-19 10:49:55 AM
It's not the House of Saud we have to worry about in the middle east - they worship greed just like we do. Possibly more than we do.
 
2007-11-19 11:36:09 AM
FTFA: "We want to continue using fossil fuels while protecting the environment," said Mohammad al-Sabban.

Huh.
 
2007-11-19 12:36:19 PM
FTFA: "What we are worried about is for industrialized countries to use climate policy as a pretext to discriminate against oil."

The truth in high oil prices revealed: they think that the greenies might actually cause us to stop using oil in the foreseeable future.
 
2007-11-19 01:38:09 PM
The Saudis aren't crazy. Evil greedy bastards, but not crazy. They are the US's ally. If it wasn't for the US, over the last 50 years the Saudis would have had a pretty rough time of it.

Too bad the US doesn't seem to understand that the Saudis should be their biatch, not the other way around.
 
2007-11-19 01:49:00 PM
FTFA: "What we are worried about is for industrialized countries to use climate policy as a pretext to discriminate against oil."

i69.photobucket.com
 
2007-11-19 01:49:00 PM
bsdbigot: FTFA: "What we are worried about is for industrialized countries to use climate policy as a pretext to discriminate against oil."

The truth in high oil prices revealed: they think that the greenies might actually cause us to stop using oil in the foreseeable future.


Makes total sense. Cuz when it gets really REALLY expensive, we will stop any efforts in developing alternative sources.
/huh?
 
2007-11-19 01:49:08 PM
el Presidente...........indeed
 
2007-11-19 01:50:40 PM
All the more reason to invest heavily in alternative fuels. Imagine the glorious day when we can tell these lunatics "Yeah, we don't need your crazy oil producing asses anymore."

Then watch them as their regimes collapse because they thought the oil gravy train would last forever and did not have the foresight to diversify their economies.
 
2007-11-19 01:51:03 PM
images.chron.com
Teeheehee!
 
2007-11-19 01:52:31 PM
EvilElecBlanket: I don't think I could get too upset if they tossed a few cruise missiles at this guy's mansion.

Pat Robertson is a farker?
 
2007-11-19 01:52:57 PM
Aarontology
Given that most of the Arabian peninsular countries are investing heavily in heavy industry or tourism, and that barely a month goes by without a pull-out section (read: major industry advertisement) in the economist or other financial papers, you are about half a decade too late.
 
2007-11-19 01:53:05 PM
FTA

"The dollar is in free fall, everyone should be worried about it," Chavez told reporters here. "The fall of the dollar is not the fall of the dollar - it's the fall of the American empire."

During a news conference after the meeting, Ahmadinejad added: "The U.S. dollar has no economic value."

From Yahoo Finance

1 U.S. Dollar =
2,146 Venezuelan Bolivla
9334 Iranian Rial

I'm just sayin
 
2007-11-19 01:53:56 PM
EvilElecBlanket: As much as I despise the current administration, I don't think I could get too upset if they tossed a few cruise missiles at this guy's mansion.
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This administration only started to vilify Chavez when he criticized the war. He seemed really rational at first, but now it seems like he's becoming a little power drunk.
 
2007-11-19 01:55:05 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND
This administration only started to vilify Chavez when he criticized the war. He seemed really rational at first, but now it seems like he's becoming a little power drunk.

CRUNK JUICE!!!
 
2007-11-19 01:55:26 PM
Yodas Ugly Brother: Aarontology
Given that most of the Arabian peninsular countries are investing heavily in heavy industry or tourism, and that barely a month goes by without a pull-out section (read: major industry advertisement) in the economist or other financial papers, you are about half a decade too late.


You know what the business world thinks of you? They think a hundred years ago you were living in tents out here in the desert chopping each other's heads off and that's exactly where you'll be in another hundred years
 
2007-11-19 01:57:11 PM
Yodas Ugly Brother: Given that most of the Arabian peninsular countries are investing heavily in heavy industry or tourism, and that barely a month goes by without a pull-out section (read: major industry advertisement) in the economist or other financial papers, you are about half a decade too late.

That's what I get for not picking up the Economist recently I suppose. I was referring mainly to Chavez with, that post though. Yet even with the increase in tourism and industry, a sudden drop in oil demand would probably put a nice dent in any oil producing economy.
 
2007-11-19 01:57:13 PM
"The fall of the dollar is not the fall of the dollar - it's the fall of the American empire."

You keep using that word....
 
2007-11-19 01:57:46 PM
Since when has Chavez done anything even vaguely imperialistic?
 
2007-11-19 01:57:48 PM
Use Less Oil.
 
2007-11-19 01:57:49 PM
But if we stop being pals with Saudi Arabia, who's Dubba gonna make out with in public?
 
2007-11-19 01:58:09 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND: This administration only started to vilify Chavez when he criticized the war. He seemed really rational at first, but now it seems like he's becoming a little power drun

You know who else was rational at first...
 
2007-11-19 01:58:34 PM
we need a manhattan project for energy independence NOW.
would probably vote for any candidate who would seriously advance this idea.
 
2007-11-19 01:58:35 PM
I'm just saying but still, i can't figure the difference out between this guy and modern democrats.....i.e. socialists. I'm just saying. Are you a useful idiot today?
 
2007-11-19 01:59:31 PM
"OPEC has made a point, from its establishment, to work for the stability of the oil markets," said the Saudi foreign minister, Prince Faisal, at a news conference after the close of the summit on Sunday. "Oil should be a tool of construction and development, not one of dispute."
 
2007-11-19 02:00:25 PM
qilo: would probably vote for any candidate who would seriously advance this idea.

Yeah, OPEC won't truly suffer: our plastic will still come from oil for a long time to come, even with energy independence. Plus, the 3rd and developing world can take up our slack. Let them invade Iraq next time.
 
2007-11-19 02:02:18 PM
Shaggy_C: Teeheehee!

Is it just me, or is that picture just begging to be made into a lolaxisofevil photo?

/paging someone with photoshop skillz
 
2007-11-19 02:03:14 PM
This is really exposing our politicians for the money-hungry whores they are. So many of them are so invested in oil companies that even when faced with power-mad asshats that want to crash our economy to the ground, they do very little to change things. As long as we are dependent on oil, the politicians will make their bucks. They give not one shiat what happens to American citizens, or even if there is a depression. They are insulated from the changes that affect the lives of real people.

If they were really interested in helping America and reducing the influence of farkheads like Ahmidouchebag and Chavez, they would pour tens of billions into alternative fuel technology and research. They pay lip service to the idea and that's all. They say crap like "we hope to reduce America's dependence on foreign oil by 30% over the next 20 years."

And then they plan to do this by raping the shiat out of wilderness corridors in America and turning some of our most treasured areas into shiatholes no one would be proud of. "See Mount Rushmore kids? Right there behind those oil derricks!" "Sure honey, you can go boogie boarding, but watch out for the oil platforms!"

Get America off the Saudi oil teat and these losers start kissing America's ass again, or at least showing some God Dammed respect and fear instead of laughing at us.
 
gcc
2007-11-19 02:03:17 PM
you know, this is some scary shiat.
 
2007-11-19 02:03:17 PM
images.jupiterimages.com

Pictures from the meeting?

Seriously, we really, really, really need to find a new source of energy.
 
2007-11-19 02:03:56 PM
I find it funny that people are thinking that the Saudi's are not doing anything but acting in their own best interest.

The Saudi's have vast reserves of U.S. Dollars, treasury bonds and investments in US based companies. If you collapse the Dollar the Yen which is pegged to it also takes a dive. The Euro is not a long term stable currency and there is absolutely no where near enough Euro's to cover the sell off in Dollars this would cause.

The only two guys pushing this are the only two oil nations under U.S. sactions which makes the U.S. dollar useless to them as they are prevented from buying from us. This means they have to convert their petro dollars into another currency to trade and that costs them money. Much more than the falling dollar has. The dollar is weak because the Fed wants it that way to handle other issues right now.
 
2007-11-19 02:06:04 PM
Stryyder
I find it funny that people are thinking that the Saudi's are not doing anything but acting in their own best interest.

The Saudi's have vast reserves of U.S. Dollars, treasury bonds and investments in US based companies. If you collapse the Dollar the Yen which is pegged to it also takes a dive. The Euro is not a long term stable currency and there is absolutely no where near enough Euro's to cover the sell off in Dollars this would cause.

The only two guys pushing this are the only two oil nations under U.S. sactions which makes the U.S. dollar useless to them as they are prevented from buying from us. This means they have to convert their petro dollars into another currency to trade and that costs them money. Much more than the falling dollar has. The dollar is weak because the Fed wants it that way to handle other issues right now.


What other issues?
 
2007-11-19 02:06:54 PM
qilo: we need a manhattan project for energy independence NOW.
would probably vote for any candidate who would seriously advance this idea.


Vote for me. No name, and too young (24) to be president though. I do advocate a huge framework for energy independence (large amounts of wind/solar, with nuclear providing base load needs/a transmission system to push power all around the country/a move to efficient electric drivetrain vehicles).
 
2007-11-19 02:07:11 PM
One dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords at dawn.

/just sayin'
//i don't own a sword or a dagger, at least since I quit WoW
 
2007-11-19 02:07:12 PM
" Let them invade Iraq next time."

Seconded.
 
2007-11-19 02:07:39 PM
submitter: to end imperialism by people other than himself

Yes, that Venezuelan Empire just keeps growing week by week. Remind me, how many countries have they taken over so far? Oh? Nevermind.

There is enough fault to find with Chavez without making shiat up. Besides, that guy sure does know sulfur when he smells it.
 
2007-11-19 02:08:14 PM
janene1242: "Huh."

Didn't you know that the oil industry saved the whales? (new window)

And if you think about it rationally, you will realize that petroleum is really a fairly benign substance, considering its myriad benefits.

www.lsb.state.ok.us
 
2007-11-19 02:09:34 PM
We will defeat American imperialism by using....uh...capitalism! Yay capitalism!
 
2007-11-19 02:12:46 PM
Chavez isn't an imperialist: he's a populist strongman with an eye for a lifetime presidency.
 
2007-11-19 02:14:54 PM
Everett the Red: Stryyder
I find it funny that people are thinking that the Saudi's are not doing anything but acting in their own best interest.

The Saudi's have vast reserves of U.S. Dollars, treasury bonds and investments in US based companies. If you collapse the Dollar the Yen which is pegged to it also takes a dive. The Euro is not a long term stable currency and there is absolutely no where near enough Euro's to cover the sell off in Dollars this would cause.

The only two guys pushing this are the only two oil nations under U.S. sactions which makes the U.S. dollar useless to them as they are prevented from buying from us. This means they have to convert their petro dollars into another currency to trade and that costs them money. Much more than the falling dollar has. The dollar is weak because the Fed wants it that way to handle other issues right now.

What other issues?


The Fed is holding interest rates in order to prevent inflation you raise the interest rates the dollar goes back up but then all the sup-prime mortgages with adjustable rates force more failures and you risk a recession.
 
2007-11-19 02:16:54 PM
Bonus: Saudi king's quotes sound eerily sane

Eghads he's right. Am I still in the timeline where OJ killed his wife?

/Sliders reference too obscure?
//But really, he's right!
 
2007-11-19 02:17:02 PM
qilo: we need a manhattan project for energy independence NOW.
would probably vote for any candidate who would seriously advance this idea.


Yep. My boss and I lament the fact that we didn't have a real visionary in office when 9/11 happened. If we did, we'd have spent 6 billion dollars a month on solar panels, fuel cells, and hybrid cars instead of a stupid, uselss war in Iraq.

Transition won't be painless (or cheap) people, but that doesn't mean we don't have to do it.
 
2007-11-19 02:17:26 PM
d.yimg.com
 
MFL
2007-11-19 02:17:49 PM
We need to be able to drill for our own oil. China and Mexico are drilling in the gulf be we aren't. WTF is wrong with this picture?
 
2007-11-19 02:17:59 PM
images.chron.com
and then the king said "OPEC has always acted moderately and wisely" - I LOLed!
 
2007-11-19 02:18:10 PM
SlothB77

Pimping ain't easy
 
2007-11-19 02:18:25 PM
www.theonion.com
 
2007-11-19 02:18:34 PM
the revolution will not be televised
 
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