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(TVSquad)   Producers and writers to talk after Thanksgiving, because it's unfathomable to imagine a world without a "Cavemen" Christmas special   (tvsquad.com) divider line 24
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2007-11-17 04:12:36 PM
Couldn't they just get the corpse of Johnny Hart to write that one?
 
2007-11-17 04:43:48 PM
Cagey B: Couldn't they just get the corpse of Johnny Hart to write that one?

Or more appropriately, a 100 monkeys with typewriters, maybe some good weed to season it up some.

Mmmmmmm mouth watering monkeys...
 
2007-11-17 05:09:55 PM
No hurry, guys.
 
2007-11-17 06:15:48 PM
blogs.knoxnews.com+ www.starwarsholidayspecial.com= The Win!
 
2007-11-17 06:18:00 PM
After Thanksgiving. When the support staff no longer are worried about paying for Thanksgiving dinner, now their worried about getting laid off right before Christmas. I guess them's the breaks for the kids of those laid off. No Christmas for you! Thank your local union.

I doubt the writers union brats get back to work in order to aleviate the pain they're causing to the little guys on staff (ie; hairdressers, prop dept, secretaries). As if they give a damn.

I will agree, that unions had their time. But I can't understand why writers need them. It's not like they're being forced to work overtime in bad conditions! And gee, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone making $30K (according to one article) per script when they work for a series???

I think the original union leaders and union members would slap the current people silly for griping about their conditions! Seriously, stuff like this makes this whole country look like spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum! How do you think a person who makes $30K per script throwing a fit looks like to a person living in squalor in Africa?
 
2007-11-17 06:21:38 PM
I will agree, that unions had their time. But I can't understand why writers need them. It's not like they're being forced to work overtime in bad conditions! And gee, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone making $30K (according to one article) per script when they work for a series???
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That's probably average. And only the initial payment. They get a payment simply for turning it in. THEN you get payment for syndication, you get payment for dvds/videos, you get payment from advertising... The only thing the writers are griping about is online downloading. Which studios, at the moment, make almost nothing from anyway.

They recently made MILLIONS simply turning in all their movie scripts that they were forced to turn in. MILLIONS.

Expect sympathy from me? HELL NO. But do I want House and Lost back? Hell yeah.

Stop striking. Take the damn deal.
 
2007-11-17 06:23:47 PM
It's production staffs. The cameramen. The lighting crew. The makeup. These are the people who will be laid off.

But they're under contract. Meaning they won't be allowed to find another job. So thousands of middle-class blue-collar production workers are out on their asses because of a bunch of rich bastards.

Makes me sick.
 
2007-11-17 06:31:58 PM
They need to give them the pennies per DVD the writers want. And the idea that streaming video is only promotional is just ridiculous.

If you want to show your support for the writers, they just started a campaign here. (new window)

/Needs BSG, Lost, and now Pushing Daisies
 
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2007-11-17 06:42:04 PM
It's sad that Maurice Gibb had to leave us at such a young age.
 
2007-11-17 06:43:05 PM
I actually like the Caveman show.

/ducks head.
 
2007-11-17 06:48:08 PM
Why are the writers so different? What about the FX guy? The guy who does the score or the guy guy who edits everything together? Their work is being seen and money is made off of it every time it's released in a new media.

And how much revenue do they really make from streaming video? Ad space? Give me a break.
 
2007-11-17 07:30:43 PM
CowboyNinjaD: I actually like the Caveman show.

I heard how much it sucked, but the one episode I watched - where they outed a "shaver" - wasn't that bad. I don't understand the hate for this show.
 
2007-11-17 07:34:25 PM
ItHurtsWhenIDoThis: CowboyNinjaD: I actually like the Caveman show.

I heard how much it sucked, but the one episode I watched - where they outed a "shaver" - wasn't that bad. I don't understand the hate for this show.


I really like the show too,I have watched since day one. It is only getting better,no laugh track,real jokes and actual acting all on top of an original idea,whats not to like?
 
2007-11-17 08:08:04 PM
wydok = teh fail!
 
2007-11-17 08:30:56 PM
If the networks were smart, they'd find a way to speed up the releases of the Lost, 24 and whatever other DVDs are due to come out next year. Get as much money as they can from DVD sales in case the WGA gets what they want and starts to cut in on that action.
 
2007-11-17 08:42:50 PM
jake3988: It's production staffs. The cameramen. The lighting crew. The makeup. These are the people who will be laid off.

But they're under contract. Meaning they won't be allowed to find another job. So thousands of middle-class blue-collar production workers are out on their asses because of a bunch of rich bastards.

Makes me sick.


You're a tard. The bulk of the writers are middle class, paying Hollywood or NY cost of living. The bulk of the production people seem to support the strike as well, mostly because of the unmitigated gall and greed exhibited by the studios.
 
2007-11-17 09:09:20 PM
The bulk of the production people seem to support the strike as well

How do you know this? And even if they did say that they support them, it doesn't change the fact that they're getting farked.
 
2007-11-17 09:24:12 PM
Mugato: How do you know this? And even if they did say that they support them, it doesn't change the fact that they're getting farked.

Well, if the WGA just rolls over then complaints from other unions in the future will not be taken seriously either.

/first they came for the writers and I did nothing
//then they came for the gaffers and I did nothing
///then they came for the bestboys...
 
2007-11-17 11:52:15 PM
mrpbear: Well, if the WGA just rolls over then complaints from other unions in the future will not be taken seriously either.

The only other union that will go on strike might be the actors. The production people are farked, there's no two ways about it.
 
2007-11-18 01:15:48 AM
I live here.
The writers are not living in middle class shanties.
Everyone in LA pays for the LA cost of living.
Writers do just fine in their estates.
 
2007-11-18 01:40:13 AM
I ask myself what have the writers done for me??

Bad TV was all I could come with!!
 
2007-11-18 01:56:56 AM
glassa: After Thanksgiving. When the support staff no longer are worried about paying for Thanksgiving dinner, now their worried about getting laid off right before Christmas. I guess them's the breaks for the kids of those laid off. No Christmas for you! Thank your local union.

I doubt the writers union brats get back to work in order to aleviate the pain they're causing to the little guys on staff (ie; hairdressers, prop dept, secretaries). As if they give a damn.

I will agree, that unions had their time. But I can't understand why writers need them. It's not like they're being forced to work overtime in bad conditions! And gee, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone making $30K (according to one article) per script when they work for a series???

I think the original union leaders and union members would slap the current people silly for griping about their conditions! Seriously, stuff like this makes this whole country look like spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum! How do you think a person who makes $30K per script throwing a fit looks like to a person living in squalor in Africa?



$30k per script? Maybe a few, but most don't make nearly that much. Or, they don't have so many scripts used. The writers have a %100 legitimate beef with the studios. The studios are basically trying to pirate the writer's work online, for ad revenue. Why don't you take a huge paycut? You think some poor African would have a problem with that?
 
2007-11-18 06:42:34 AM
The show Cavemen offends me so much that I lost my appetite.
I even turned down Mango Duck.
 
2007-11-18 12:43:07 PM
Mugato 2007-11-17 06:48:08 PM
Why are the writers so different? What about the FX guy? The guy who does the score or the guy guy who edits everything together? Their work is being seen and money is made off of it every time it's released in a new media.

And how much revenue do they really make from streaming video? Ad space? Give me a break.


I suppose you would support the RIAA being allowed to sell music without further compensation the artists beyond an initial amount?

The studios and writers have already agreed that writers should receive reisduals when their work is re-run/repackaged/re-sold. I understand why the studios are stonewalling in applying that principle to new media: It's called greed. I don't understand why people who have no dog in this fight feel the need to cheer on their avarice.
 
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