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2007-11-16 03:29:50 PM  
Tassach: Public schools are a branch of the government, and the students are required by law to attend. No branch of the Government has the Constitutional authority to tell anyone what color their hair can be dyed.

And you just exposed yourself as an idiot.
 
2007-11-16 04:02:50 PM  
She's just misszzundasszztood.
 
2007-11-16 04:41:14 PM  
I ask this just about every "student dyes hair color x, principal gets all pissy" thread we have, but really: how does hair color affect scholastic performance?

Please provide spiffy charts. Maybe even a Powerpoint presentation.
 
2007-11-16 04:47:53 PM  
soze: I ask this just about every "student dyes hair color x, principal gets all pissy" thread we have, but really: how does hair color affect scholastic performance?

Please provide spiffy charts. Maybe even a Powerpoint presentation.


It goes like this:


1. Student does something, anything, that annoys the principal
2. Principal tries to exert supreme authority over the student
3. Student refuses to comply
4. Principal decides to spent far too much of his/her time trying to 'fix' this 'problem' instead of trying to find ways of helping our steadily decreasing in quality schools do better
 
2007-11-16 04:48:45 PM  
I would like to volunteer my services to be the guy who makes sure all the drapes match the carpets on the hot teen chicks
 
2007-11-16 05:09:56 PM  
itsdan:

It goes like this:

1. Student does something, anything, that annoys the principal
2. Principal tries to exert supreme authority over the student
3. Student refuses to comply
4. Principal decides to spent far too much of his/her time trying to 'fix' this 'problem' instead of trying to find ways of helping our steadily decreasing in quality schools do better


No, I understand that it's just a symptom of petty power-tripping bureaucrats. However, there are some people that support these decisions and I'd like to know if they have any reasoning outside of "follow the rules because them's the rules".
 
2007-11-16 05:10:11 PM  
NuttierThanEver: I would like to volunteer my services to be the guy who makes sure all the drapes match the carpets on the hot teen chicks

Well, in this situation, it would be easy. Take up the carpet and it's all pink.
 
2007-11-16 05:10:35 PM  
CONFORM
 
2007-11-16 05:25:58 PM  
soze: Please provide spiffy charts. Maybe even a Powerpoint presentation.

I would but your hair is distracting me.
 
2007-11-16 06:05:15 PM  
FTFA: "It's a great form of self-expression, not that we were trying to push the envelope or anything," Chavez said.

Hey, lady... if your kid's "self-expression" can be bought at a beauty supply shop... then your kid has got nothing the rest of us really need to hear.
 
2007-11-16 06:21:07 PM  
soze: I ask this just about every "student dyes hair color x, principal gets all pissy" thread we have, but really: how does hair color affect scholastic performance?

It's not just about hair color. It's about the attitude. Having children keep natural hair colors, dress in solid-color shirts, unbaggy pants or mandatory belts, all of this encourages a sense of professionalism in the classroom. I don't have any spiffy charts to prove my point, all I have is the anecdotal evidence of having seen this in action. I spent a few years in a high school that had pretty much no dress-code at all, and test scores/grades were abysmal. I spent a few years in a high school with a strict dresscode like the one I mentioned above, and it was one of the highest-performing schools in the county. Now I know this could also be because of several other factors, correlation != causation, yadda yadda. I'm just sayin.
 
2007-11-16 06:22:42 PM  
wyltoknow: It's not just about hair color. It's about the attitude. Having children keep natural hair colors, dress in solid-color shirts, unbaggy pants or mandatory belts, all of this encourages a sense of professionalism in the classroom. I don't have any spiffy charts to prove my point, all I have is the anecdotal evidence of having seen this in action. I spent a few years in a high school that had pretty much no dress-code at all, and test scores/grades were abysmal. I spent a few years in a high school with a strict dresscode like the one I mentioned above, and it was one of the highest-performing schools in the county. Now I know this could also be because of several other factors, correlation != causation, yadda yadda. I'm just sayin.

I have a feeling I know what school you went to.

=)
 
2007-11-16 06:30:38 PM  
Picture of one of the school officials in question:

aycu11.webshots.com
 
2007-11-16 06:37:37 PM  
Get used to it, toots. It's like that way in the real world too.

*Hides the tattoos.
 
2007-11-16 06:52:15 PM  
I went to elementary school in Iran and this is how it was.

/Good job USA!!!
//The Terrorist have won.
 
2007-11-16 07:10:26 PM  
Sorry to sound like a weens but does this apply to people of, ah, color, too?
 
2007-11-16 07:11:15 PM  
Pubes too?
 
2007-11-16 07:11:17 PM  
Scienceman123: CONFORM

Bingo. Heaven help us all if we don't tow the party line.
 
2007-11-16 07:11:29 PM  
Pink is the new natural
 
2007-11-16 07:12:13 PM  
I thought pink was a normal hair color in Japan.
 
2007-11-16 07:13:17 PM  

All in all you're just another brick in the wall.


flatrock.org.nz

 
2007-11-16 07:13:25 PM  
wyltoknow: It's not just about hair color. It's about the attitude. Having children keep natural hair colors, dress in solid-color shirts, unbaggy pants or mandatory belts, all of this encourages a sense of professionalism in the classroom. I don't have any spiffy charts to prove my point, all I have is the anecdotal evidence of having seen this in action. I spent a few years in a high school that had pretty much no dress-code at all, and test scores/grades were abysmal. I spent a few years in a high school with a strict dresscode like the one I mentioned above, and it was one of the highest-performing schools in the county. Now I know this could also be because of several other factors, correlation != causation, yadda yadda. I'm just sayin.

Oh, because of your one case, that proves the point. I go to Glen Ridge High School in some tiny town in Glen Ridge, nobody gives a fark about what you wear or anything. There are kids with friggen blue spiked-up hair, and we have one of the best performing schools in NJ.
 
2007-11-16 07:13:44 PM  
"precious little snowflake" is getting old and cliched, try thinking up a new one for a change
 
2007-11-16 07:14:16 PM  
You know who else liked snappy, "professional" uniforms and certain hair colors...
 
2007-11-16 07:14:20 PM  
I retract my statement. What i just said is retarted, but you get the point.
 
2007-11-16 07:14:21 PM  
Der Poopflinger: "precious little snowflake" is getting old and cliched, try thinking up a new one for a change

Crotch spawn?
 
2007-11-16 07:14:32 PM  
That principal would have had a heart attack at my high school. Not only did kids have brightly colored hair, they also had mohawks. Hell, the student body president one year had a bright purple mohawk, multiple piercings and a 3.9 GPA. The rest of us didn't give a rats ass.

Funny thing is that the principal is probably the same age as that student body president I was talking about.
 
2007-11-16 07:15:16 PM  
The principal should write a book on how solved the all the other problems, like drugs, gangs, smoking, truancy, hot teacher / student sex, wedgies, chewing gum, etc., so pink hair could make it to top of the list of social evils to be snuffed out.
 
2007-11-16 07:15:18 PM  
This happened at least 3 times a month when I was in school. The kid shut up and conformed. I'm not saying it's right but why is this a news story nowadays?
 
2007-11-16 07:15:19 PM  
I thought that they were all about freedom of expression in the USSRC.
 
2007-11-16 07:16:36 PM  
If the school policy says x, and the students don't obey school policy, that's their problem. The Constitution says nothing about pink hair being an unalienable right.
 
2007-11-16 07:16:38 PM  
www.mercuras.com
 
2007-11-16 07:16:43 PM  
Der Poopflinger: "precious little snowflake" is getting old and cliched, try thinking up a new one for a change

"Ambulatory Butt Nuggets"?
 
2007-11-16 07:17:22 PM  
Aww poor kid can't express her individuality by dying her hair pink. Aww, it's not like it's ever been done before.
 
2007-11-16 07:18:37 PM  
You will respect my authoritay!!

img210.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-16 07:18:59 PM  
RyanC829: Tassach: Public schools are a branch of the government, and the students are required by law to attend. No branch of the Government has the Constitutional authority to tell anyone what color their hair can be dyed.

And you just exposed yourself as an idiot.


Why is that? I think they made a perfectly valid argument. Hair color has zero to do with scholastic performance.

I don't understand this obsession American schools have with hair color and length. Here in Canuckistan I have yet to hear about a school getting all pissy about a student's hair color. Christ, my nephew would never be allowed into an American school with the hair he has now.

Kids grow out of this crap, why do schools even care?
 
2007-11-16 07:19:20 PM  
It's nice to see that the money we spend on Public Education goes towards douchebag administrators/teachers whose biggest concern is hair color and whether or not your shirt is tucked in or not. The principal at my old Middle School actually staple-hemmed my brother's pants once because the backs of the pant-legs were "frayed".

They say, "It's distracting." Right, because if someone is sitting next to me in class with pink hair, I might just flunk my math final.

...I hate people...
 
2007-11-16 07:20:41 PM  
Hamster Lover: RyanC829: Tassach: Public schools are a branch of the government, and the students are required by law to attend. No branch of the Government has the Constitutional authority to tell anyone what color their hair can be dyed.

And you just exposed yourself as an idiot.

Why is that? I think they made a perfectly valid argument. Hair color has zero to do with scholastic performance.

I don't understand this obsession American schools have with hair color and length. Here in Canuckistan I have yet to hear about a school getting all pissy about a student's hair color. Christ, my nephew would never be allowed into an American school with the hair he has now.

Kids grow out of this crap, why do schools even care?


Because the people running them are farksocks.
 
2007-11-16 07:20:54 PM  
This article failed the first rule of deciding whats news, and what isn't: "WHO CARES?!"
 
2007-11-16 07:21:45 PM  
wyltoknow: I spent a few years in a high school that had pretty much no dress-code at all, and test scores/grades were abysmal. I spent a few years in a high school with a strict dresscode like the one I mentioned above, and it was one of the highest-performing schools in the county.


So typically high school is a four year gig....how many years did you spend there?
 
2007-11-16 07:22:06 PM  
soze: I ask this just about every "student dyes hair color x, principal gets all pissy" thread we have, but really: why the fark does anyone care? If dying your hair pink is the best you can do as far as personal expression, you really haven't got a damn thing worth expressing.

Please provide spiffy charts. Maybe even a Powerpoint presentation.


FTFY. Seriously, though, dying your hair pink does not meet the supreme courts criteria for speech, and as such is not protected under the first amendment. More fundamentally, why does everyone make such a huge deal out of it? If she had written an editorial in the school paper criticizing the administration and got suspended for it, I would be up in arms. If she was wearing a democrat/republican pin in a town that heavily leaned the other direction and got suspended, I would be up in arms. If her science teacher was teaching Intelligent Design theory and she stood up and called him an illiterate dumbass and got suspended, I would be up in arms. But no, this bored suburban cretin dyed her hair pink, which was very clearly against school policy (and as previously mentioned, does not qualify as protected speech) and got the exact punishment listed in the same handbook. Thats how laws work. This one actually happens to be a really inoffensive one that got carried out appropriately.
 
2007-11-16 07:22:11 PM  
RocketRod: FTFA: "It's a great form of self-expression, not that we were trying to push the envelope or anything," Chavez said.

Hey, lady... if your kid's "self-expression" can be bought at a beauty supply shop... then your kid has got nothing the rest of us really need to hear.


If YOU have kids at all, I'm sure they aren't going to say anything anyone needs to hear ever. And they got that way without even having to go to the beauty supply shop. Genetics gave them stupid for free.
 
2007-11-16 07:22:44 PM  
TFA
...a passage in the dress code that requires "Hair color must be natural."

So does that mean only the colour which one's hair has on its own, or does this also permit dyeing hair some colour that occurs naturally, just not on one's own head?

/not a fan of the colour that bleached hair turns
 
2007-11-16 07:23:20 PM  
Lusiphur: soze: I ask this just about every "student dyes hair color x, principal gets all pissy" thread we have, but really: why the fark does anyone care? If dying your hair pink is the best you can do as far as personal expression, you really haven't got a damn thing worth expressing.

Please provide spiffy charts. Maybe even a Powerpoint presentation.

FTFY. Seriously, though, dying your hair pink does not meet the supreme courts criteria for speech, and as such is not protected under the first amendment. More fundamentally, why does everyone make such a huge deal out of it? If she had written an editorial in the school paper criticizing the administration and got suspended for it, I would be up in arms. If she was wearing a democrat/republican pin in a town that heavily leaned the other direction and got suspended, I would be up in arms. If her science teacher was teaching Intelligent Design theory and she stood up and called him an illiterate dumbass and got suspended, I would be up in arms. But no, this bored suburban cretin dyed her hair pink, which was very clearly against school policy (and as previously mentioned, does not qualify as protected speech) and got the exact punishment listed in the same handbook. Thats how laws work. This one actually happens to be a really inoffensive one that got carried out appropriately.


True, but that's not what's bothering most of us, what IS is that laws this farking stupid are in EFFECT.
 
2007-11-16 07:23:33 PM  
The Constitution doesn't apply to students, even in a public school, you ignorant farks.

I know that high school administrators are idiot reactionary coonts but those idiot reactionary coonts can enforce pretty much anything they want.
 
2007-11-16 07:24:36 PM  
friday, november 9th - article date. nice. hell, this was a followup last saturday
 
2007-11-16 07:27:34 PM  
wyltoknow: I spent a few years in a high school that had pretty much no dress-code at all, and test scores/grades were abysmal. I spent a few years in a high school with a strict dresscode like the one I mentioned above, and it was one of the highest-performing schools in the county.

How many years did you spend in high school overall?
 
2007-11-16 07:28:11 PM  
Ryan2065: wyltoknow: It's not just about hair color. It's about the attitude. Having children keep natural hair colors, dress in solid-color shirts, unbaggy pants or mandatory belts, all of this encourages a sense of professionalism in the classroom. I don't have any spiffy charts to prove my point, all I have is the anecdotal evidence of having seen this in action. I spent a few years in a high school that had pretty much no dress-code at all, and test scores/grades were abysmal. I spent a few years in a high school with a strict dresscode like the one I mentioned above, and it was one of the highest-performing schools in the county. Now I know this could also be because of several other factors, correlation != causation, yadda yadda. I'm just sayin.

I have a feeling I know what school you went to.

=)


Correlation does not equal causation, podner!

And anecdotal evidence plus $1.85 gets you a tall cup of regular at Starbuck's.
 
2007-11-16 07:29:16 PM  
Who Knew
 
2007-11-16 07:29:25 PM  
Mugato: The Constitution doesn't apply to students, even in a public school, you ignorant farks.

I know that high school administrators are idiot reactionary coonts but those idiot reactionary coonts can enforce pretty much anything they want.


way to go dude, dont question authority. its right, because its the rule.
 
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