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fatassbastard: Frank N Stein: I'd like to point out that Stalin was an athiest. But no one is pinning the horrible shiat he did on all athiests.

Have you met SkinnyHead? :)

I think Bevets has played that card once or twice, too. Bevets, correct me if I'm wrong (I very well might be).


Sssshh, don't wake the Bevets...

MonkeyBoy666: I bet they're related to the retards retard who would get offended if they didn't call them Christmas Trees.

Me fail English? That unpossible.

Christmas trees are too hazardous for kids
// loose needles, broken glass to eat, danger toys, fruitcake soaked in rum, grampa's 'eggnogg'
then there's the fat dude crawl'n up & down yer chiomney at nite, farkn raindeer on the roof..

... wow, mdbirt... you are a douche-bag.
Someone call W and have him drop some bombs on mdbirt's hut.

Have you ever thought about how the days of the week were named?

They were named after the Sun, Moon (which people worshiped as gods at one time or another) and Ancient European Deities!

So...
Sunday -- Sun's day
Monday -- Moon's day
Tuesday -- Tiu's day (Germanic God of War!)
Wednesday -- Woden's day (The messenger)
Thursday -- Thor's day (You all know The Mighty Thor, throwing thunderbolts out of his hammer!)
Friday -- Freya's day (Goddess of love and the sky)
Saturday -- Saturn's day (God of the harvest)

The point I'm making here is nobody these days thinks about ol' THOR when Thursday is mentioned.

The same thing goes for Mercury. I'm sure when people mention Mercury its about the planet, the silvery stuff in thermometers, the lead singer for Queen or a division of the Ford Motor Company. Nobody's thinking about worshiping the messenger of the gods.

It's just the NAME of something. If you can mention the days of the week and Hg without thinking of the deities that gave them their names then you can use Christmas.

There. I said it. Christmas. Christmas. Christmas. It's become the name of the thing. Deal with it. It will always be the name of the thing. You can use it proudly without thinking of a magical invisible sky pixie

All you haters on both sides can STFU and GBTW.

JSTACAT
Christmas trees are too hazardous for kids
// loose needles, broken glass to eat, danger toys, fruitcake soaked in rum, grampa's 'eggnogg'
then there's the fat dude crawl'n up & down yer chiomney at nite, farkn raindeer on the roof..

But that's what makes Xmas so EXCITING!
Rushing to the Emergency Room with drunken relatives, glass cuts, accidental dinner knife fights and sister-in-laws catfighting!

Merry Christmas. Starting in October...

mrGQ: I want to hear Hark the Harold Angles and Away in a manger when I'm shopping.

Ok, I've heard of Michael and Gabriel. Since when is there an angel named Harold?

WARNING: Do NOT do a GIS (new window) for "harold angel" unless you have eye bleach handy. Trust me.

Pure FAIL (pop)

/oldie but a goodie

RE:mdbirt

What a coont...

Well, so long as they're not selling Sputnik ornaments...

The point I'm making here is nobody these days thinks about ol' THOR when Thursday is mentioned.""

what do we think of when its Saturday?

JSTACAT: "Lowe's evidently did not want to offend any non-Christians; therefore, they replaced 'Christmas tree' with 'family tree,'" the AFA e-mail said. "Of course, if Christians are offended, that is evidently OK.""

// Personally grateful for the dissassociatives..

get off my tree!

That looks like the graphic on the mail order 9/14/93 Spectrum ticket.

I wonder if God is still angry that people put Christmas trees in their house even if they don't know they are pagan symbols. If they aren't being worshiped as pagan symbols but are instead put in the house to make it smell like pine and give some pretty light, I wonder if God cares.

wydok 2007-11-14 11:48:02 PM
I wonder if God is still angry that people put Christmas trees in their house even if they don't know they are pagan symbols. If they aren't being worshiped as pagan symbols but are instead put in the house to make it smell like pine and give some pretty light, I wonder if God cares.""

// He is a good deal more reasonable than the humans that fight over things like toys...
// we do need different holiday music
// when i hear that shiat, i run for the .. Trees

\\ intent, the other 9/10 of the law..

Yeah its all about Intent..

Snegurochka

MonkeyBoy666: I'm outraged because Lowes refuses to help me celebrate my religion.

I demand they carry Festivus poles. They can do that much for the rest of us.

The stuff they're selling in plumbing isn't aluminum, which is required by the tenets of my faith.

Festivus Yes! Lowes No!

the aluminum tubes are in the electrical department

That settles it; this year I'm celebrating the holidays by opening fire in my local church during service. They want a war on Christmas, by God they'll get one!

Boy, sure glad I'm not hoping my tree idol will talk to me and give me guidance. It detracts from my time waiting for the bearded sky wizard to do the same. That sky wizard does get upset at things like that.

We need to get back to warrioring so we can defeat Surt and prevent Ragnarok.

sing it now.

Oh retail store tree,
Oh retail store tree....

Day_Old_Dutchie: There. I said it. Christmas. Christmas. Christmas. It's become the name of the thing. Deal with it. It will always be the name of the thing. You can use it proudly without thinking of a magical invisible sky pixie

All you haters on both sides can STFU and GBTW.

Hannukah Hannukah Hannukah. Ramadan Ramadan Ramadan. It's the f*cking holidays, Happy Holidays. There are other people besides you.

The tree thing mentioned in the article is most likely a joke between some writers and editors of the magazine, not serious.

You can't make everyone happy. I can tell you right now that I'd never buy something labeled a "Holiday Tree" - doing so would be basically demeaning the Christmas holiday.

j0ndas
- doing so would be basically demeaning the Christmas holiday.

too late. the world beat the politically correct crowd to it years ago. These are just the last ones in from the cold, and are being back row baptists. Or the politically correct equivalent.

mdbirt 2007-11-14 07:13:49 PM
How about you christian degenerated STFU and actually look into the history of the "Christmas"-tree..... has absolutely nothing to do with Christ, christianity, or christmas..... it was co-opted by the Roman Catholic church in - if I remember correct off the top of my head - 11th century. Now, please go STFU until you say something else so retarded it saddens me that you consider yourself a human.


11th Century???

You have GOT to be kidding me.

Hey how about YOU realize AMERICAN history and TRADITION and stop being such a vindictive asshole?

Hey, I heard from some petty asshole hater that if you actually make eye contact with a Nativity Scene or Christmas Tree your eyes actually melt out of your head ! Is that true???

Please SAVE US FROM THE EVIL CHRISTIANS AND THEIR HELL-FIRE SYMBOLS!!!

Seems to me playing songs of worship in places of business would be like marketing faith, and therefore blasphemous.

I mean, we already know Chick-Fil-A is going to hell for putting up 6 posters in every location showing their CEO self-righteously bragging that they close every Sunday.

I mean, I already get on my parents' case for being fans of the Gaithers gospel music. Hundreds of people gathering in fellowship in a stadium with a stage, and songs of worship being sung with stories told here and there? Sounds pretty close to a church service to me--so why do they require paid admission? And what's with all the whistles and applause after every song?

It's amazing how many Christians want spirituality and commercialism to be joined at the hip. Praise the Lord while you buy gifts for kids who you lied to about Santa Claus, just to later tell them he doesn't exist. And now that you've proven your word carries weight, still expect them to have faith in God. You know, because you say so.

Christmas is nothing but a complete and utter joke. A fake holiday.

If you ask any self-proclaimed 'Christian' what Christmas is about, they will say it was the day Jesus was born / celebrating his birth.

WRONG.

Jesus was not born on December 25th.


Fail.


I've yet to understand why 'Christians' get so pissy when people say "Happy Holidays" or call it a "Holiday Tree". Christmas IS A HOLIDAY. Farking idiots, get over yourselves. Honestly.

Lunchbox186: Man, Christmas is the only holiday with a tree anyway, isn't it?

If I don't get around to taking my tree down by the third week in January, it becomes a Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Tree by default. One year we still had St. Patrick's lights up before neighbors complained.

hogans: B-b-but we need Family Trees! How else can we celebrate Life Day?

rrrangngghhh RRAAANNNGGGGHHHHGHHH!

/how the hell do you type in Shyriiwook?

Dear baby jesus, with your tiny little golden diaper and your little balled up fists, please stike down with vengance and anger, like that black guy in pulp fiction talked about, all of the people who give even one-half of a crap whether it's called christmas, xmas, or 'the holidays'. Thank you. Amen.

jtaker: Christmas is nothing but a complete and utter joke. A fake holiday.

If you ask any self-proclaimed 'Christian' what Christmas is about, they will say it was the day Jesus was born / celebrating his birth.

WRONG.

Jesus was not born on December 25th.

Well there's a 1 in 365 chance that he WAS, but that's besides the point. Dec. 25 is set aside as the Feast of the Nativity. Feast as in celebration, the Nativity as in the birth of Christ. There's no Birth Certificate to check, so really, any date is as good as the next. Note too that the Annunciation (i.e. Mary getting pregnant) is celebrated on March 25, nine months from Christmas. This holiday (and other Christian holidays) have historically carried more religious importance than Christmas.

Fail.

Speak for yourself.


I've yet to understand why 'Christians' get so pissy when people say "Happy Holidays" or call it a "Holiday Tree". Christmas IS A HOLIDAY. Farking idiots, get over yourselves. Honestly.

The problem is "holiday" being used to disguise the word "Christmas" - INTENTIONALLY, and by companies that turn a heavy profit in December on account of Christmas. The supposed reason for doing this not to offend non-Christians. But Christians take offense to this avoidance, and truth be told, not many non-Christians actually complain about Christmas.

The other problem is that they let 6th graders such as yourself use the computer.

The Bruce Dickinson is correct, that is what it says.
I don't feel so bad about being too lazy for a Christmas tree the last few years now...
I may still decorate my 60 Chrysler like Santa's sled though...
/yard ornament.

Burgermeister Meisterburger was attacked by a Christmas tree.

GGGG
Well, maybe slightly less odds that the possible birth of Christ happened on the 25th.

Seems to me there's quite a consensus among biblical scholars that the mostly likely time by far falls in the spring. April, I believe.

Then again, from a religious perspective, I still think Easter is much more important than Christmas, and yet it's celebrated for--maximum--two weeks. Christmas is what it is because of the holiday shopping season and businesses. Since the holiday's reputation exists at all thanks to businesses, I would imagine businesses are certainly well within their rights if they choose to change how they present the season to consumers.

Even if that means giving it a different name.

Let me just say I am a pagan and I call them Christmas trees too! If you want to call them Holiday trees go right ahead, if you want to call them Christmas trees do that. You could even call them Holly Day trees for all I care. Most pagans don't give a shiat what you want to do to celebrate this time of year anyway. So call them what ever the fark you want. I won't be offended. It seems to me the only one getting all up in arms about religious freedoms and political correctness are the majority, the Christians. The rest of us don't give a fark so long as you leave us alone to do our own thing.

JSTACAT

Last I checked, we don't adore our Christmas tree, we just decorate it. It is part of the decor of the season, a perfect background for all the opening-presents pictures. Plus it smells good. So please, let's not start using the bible as a literal rule book.
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If I could draw a parallel on the bible to allow for this to be OK, think of the Sabbath. It is the 4th commandment to not do anything on Saturday, but the apostles were meeting on the first day of the week, which is Sunday. That is up to today, unless you are an adventist or a Jew. But we are not going to hell over this. Times changed, but the reason of the Sabbath, which is a day dedicated to prayer, looking for God, and spend time with your children teaching them of the word and NOT WORKING, you see that has not changed. You still need to have dedicated time for God once a week, is on the commandments.
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\OK, boys! Bring the smartmass remarks
\\Yeah, you atheist are welcome to butcher this logic as well.
\\\Say yes to Jesus. Say no to fundies.
\\\\Remember you are the temple of the Holy Spirit, but the other people in church may not be temples themselves. Trust God not men.

half-mad-genius: It seems to me the only one getting all up in arms about religious freedoms and political correctness are the majority, the Christians. The rest of us don't give a fark so long as you leave us alone to do our own thing.

It's apparent that you have not read this thread very well. It's also apparent that a large outspoken group of farkers are very much anti-Christian, and pretty much anti-anything-to-do-with Christianity.

Dear non-believers, Christmas is not for you. Not yours. Do not expect presents either.

half-mad-genius: Let me just say I am a pagan and I call them Christmas trees too! If you want to call them Holiday trees go right ahead, if you want to call them Christmas trees do that. You could even call them Holly Day trees for all I care. Most pagans don't give a shiat what you want to do to celebrate this time of year anyway. So call them what ever the fark you want. I won't be offended. It seems to me the only one getting all up in arms about religious freedoms and political correctness are the majority, the Christians. The rest of us don't give a fark so long as you leave us alone to do our own thing.

I'm a born-again Pagan who also still calls a Christmas tree a Christmas tree,even tho I celebrate Yule & Solstice( old habits...)
A lot of Christians cringe when you gently remind them of the Pagan origins of the Christmas tree, holly wreaths, the traditional colors of red & green, etc.
Gift- giving at Yule is a Pagan tradition also, NOT a Christian one ( tho the gifts we Pagans tend to give others are the gifts of tolerance & understanding ).
BTW, you will never see a Pagan banging on your door at 8:00AM Saturday morning trying to convert you...


/ knows people who celebrate Festivus...

jtaker: I've yet to understand why 'Christians' get so pissy when people say "Happy Holidays" or call it a "Holiday Tree". Christmas IS A HOLIDAY. Farking idiots, get over yourselves. Honestly.

Which is why I'm sure that you say "Happy Holidays" on Roshashana, Yom Kippur, Eid ul-Fitr, Halloween, Easter, Thanksgiving, Valetine's Day, Divali, and Veteran's Day.

Right?

/actually, I myself do say Happy Holidays in the December season... I live in NYC and I guess I mean happy Xian/Jewish holidays plus New Year's... but then again, everyone knows I really mean "Merry Christmas, you heathen fark!"

adadkbar93: The funny thing about all the biatching is that none of it actually seems to be about the "spirit" of the hijacked holiday

Wow, I know people who eat wings, beer, and sandwiches during the Superbowl--don't they know they have to do and eat something completely NEW lest they be accused of stealing someone else's ideas in order to start their own holiday?

What in the fark are you talking about? I made an observation that some Christians are spewing poison from their mouths at people wishing them Happy Holidays, while they blow next month's rent on a bunch of material objects, all in the supposed celebration of trying their best to live like Jesus.

I'm not sure how that compares to fat armchair quarterbacks stuffing their cake holes while watching the superbowl. I could see your point if people were having superbowl parties without actually watching the superbowl or having anything at all to do with football.

Eve Summers: 'm a born-again Pagan who also still calls a Christmas tree a Christmas tree,even tho I celebrate Yule & Solstice( old habits...)

A long unbroken family tradition, I'm sure!

/blessed be