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(Reuters)   40% of people don't think AIDS is always fatal. Magic Johnson and his money agree   (reuters.com) divider line 146
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2007-11-13 02:30:17 PM
dletter: Life is fatal.

As soon as you're born you start dying
so you might as well have a good time

/Sheep Go to Heaven
 
2007-11-13 02:30:20 PM
digitalpirate: AIDS is a syndrome caused by HIV...sometimes.

/Tommy Gunn(I forgot his real name) had HIV and now shows no measurable amount of the virus in hos body


Tommy Morrison.
 
2007-11-13 02:30:36 PM
So wait, was the headline being sarcastic or what, because I was under the impression that it was never really the AIDS that kill you, its the weakened immune system and usually some curable disease that takes over and kills you. If so, submitter needs to do some research, or at least re-word the headline, or basically just DIAF for thinking they were smarter than most people.
 
2007-11-13 02:31:06 PM
Myrdinn: Still, no cure for HIV/AIDS, so... one shouldn't play the suicide game.

How about the crying game? Is that still on the table?
 
2007-11-13 02:31:17 PM
40%....that's like 7 out of 10 people!!!!
 
2007-11-13 02:31:26 PM
Several years now HIV/AIDS has become a treatable, chronic condition. Since the advent of Triple therapy the 10 year survival rate has dramatically increased. AIDS is fatal and there is no cure, but there is treatment and the majority of patients if they seek care early enough can expect to survive their diagnosis by 10 years. That is much better than the 6 months that pancreatic cancer patients can expect. That said Triple therapy is not pleasant. I had to take it for six weeks following an inadvertant needlestick at work and I was not a happy camper
Link (new window)
 
2007-11-13 02:34:49 PM
Being HIV+ is no longer a death sentence because the drug regimen can keep you alive long enough to die of something else.

Comparisons are now being made to diabetes, which is also fatal if not treated. If you're willing to do the meds and the lifestyle changes, chances are it won't kill you.

(the babies who seroconvert back to negative were circulating antibodies from their HIV+ mothers. Mothers taking the right drug combo will likely pass on the antibody, but not the virus - thus the false positive in the baby. http://www.avert.org/pregnancy.htm)
 
2007-11-13 02:34:52 PM
digitalpirate: AIDS is a syndrome caused by HIV...sometimes.

/Tommy Gunn(I forgot his real name) had HIV and now shows no measurable amount of the virus in hos body


So he says.
 
2007-11-13 02:35:46 PM
I Said: Everyone who has AIDS will die

FTFY.
 
2007-11-13 02:38:12 PM
I Said: Everyone who has AIDS will die

AIDS AIDS AIDS!
 
2007-11-13 02:40:33 PM
Myrdinn: Lymphadenopathy, the various other infections

KingMountain: wait, people with AIDS can turn into werewolves?


KingMountain you rule.

/The mountain anyway...
 
2007-11-13 02:40:53 PM
I can't believe i'm the Weeners this but aids help people, not hurt them. Just ask Jared.

upload.wikimedia.org

If i had my way, all children should get aids.
 
2007-11-13 02:44:55 PM
Passive Aggressive Larry: So wait, was the headline being sarcastic or what, because I was under the impression that it was never really the AIDS that kill you, its the weakened immune system and usually some curable disease that takes over and kills you. If so, submitter needs to do some research, or at least re-word the headline, or basically just DIAF for thinking they were smarter than most people.

You're arguing semantics. Dying of AIDS = dying of a secondary condition that you wouldn't have had were you not infected with HIV.

It's like saying that someone who got shot to death wasn't killed by the shooter because the cause of death was actually a bullet tearing a hole through vital organs. I'm chalking that death up to "guy with a gun" rather than "fast-moving slug of lead." How about you?
 
2007-11-13 02:45:10 PM
lordargent: aids == sapper

That makes sense because you know that rogues do it from behind....

/ducks
 
2007-11-13 02:49:13 PM
FrancoFile: Shvetz: FrancoFile: laffingnetizen: RHMolBio: OK...A very small percentage of people diagnosed with HIV actually serotype back to HIV(-). No one knows why yet, but this is a big issue.

how is that even possible?

Um, because the immune system does its job and destroys the viruses.

Wrong. It's because they test for the presence of antibodies, not the actual virus.

This month's issue of "Skeptical Inquirer" has a cover story on AIDS misinformation, and just how ignorant people are all over the world. South Africa is a pretty glaring example. The prime minister doesn't believe there's a connection between HIV and AIDS, and the health minister thinks you can treat it with garlic and beet roots.

I agree with your entire post except for the "WRONG". We do not know exactly what happens with the very very very small percentage of people who go seronegative. Some investigators believe that the infection has been wiped out, others believe that there are reservoirs of the virus lurking in various parts of the body that may eventually replicate again. Not enough cases, too many complicating factors, not enough time to study it.



Wrong. I am infallible. Anything I say or type is true. This is evidenced by the fact that I am infallible. Because everything I say or type is true.
 
2007-11-13 02:49:31 PM
logician: Darcy Darlin: Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS yet. He's still just HIV+, if I remember correctly.

Came here to say this.


Same here. Subby is a genius.
 
2007-11-13 02:53:10 PM
The ultimate cause of death is ALWAYS lack of oxygen to the brain.

/armchair physician
//going off to self-medicate now
 
2007-11-13 02:53:55 PM
AIDS: another reason to avoid drunken bar sex. or buttsecks.
 
2007-11-13 02:57:11 PM
I remember when Magic announced that he had AIDS. When I heard about it, I equated the announcement to "Magic Johnson has died". I thought he'd be a goner in 2 to 3 years max for sure. That was about the extent of life expectancy for people that caught the bug back then. That was a long assed time ago, money sure buys you health.
 
2007-11-13 02:58:46 PM
The reason Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS yet is because he has a Magic Johnson.
 
2007-11-13 03:01:04 PM
laffingnetizen: how is that even possible?

Some people are immune to HIV.

The one study I heard about involved a group of people who were descended from ancestors who survived despite living in a major plague center (as in the bubonic plague, that decimated Europe's population).
 
2007-11-13 03:02:25 PM
tonesskin: /Tommy Gunn(I forgot his real name) had HIV and now shows no measurable amount of the virus in hos body

Tommy Morrison.


Morrison's statements aren't true. He just made them so they would issue him a license in west virginia to box. WV does not require a blood test before fighting. He has avoided any state boxing board that would require the standard blood tests for boxers, which naturally involves an HIV test.
 
2007-11-13 03:04:17 PM
I heard that Magic Johnson bought the cure for AIDS and is holding out for the government to give him so much money that NASA would be cancelled!

www.wildyams.com
 
2007-11-13 03:11:04 PM
"On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everybody drops to zero"

\ not obscure I know
 
2007-11-13 03:13:47 PM
It is possible to test HIV(-) and still have the virus. It can lie dormant in your T-cells for extended periods of time. That's why nobody can actually cure you of the disease today. It writes itself into your DNA.

/Kinda like chickenpox. (It can come back as shingles)
//Goats go to hell.
 
2007-11-13 03:15:28 PM
Well, honestly, AIDS doesn't kill. It is the secondary infections and diseases that slide in, because AIDS disabled the immune system, that kills a body.
AIDS= Acquired ImmunoDeficiency Syndrome.
Lymphadenopathy, the various other infections, all come in because the immune system is disabled.

Still, no cure for HIV/AIDS, so... one shouldn't play the suicide game.


In the same way that a bullet in the brain doesn't kill you, it's simply the loss of blood and cerebral trauma?
 
2007-11-13 03:18:07 PM
lordargent: aids == sapper

Gotta love the Sappers, craziest dudes in the Malazan army!

/GO FID!
//if anyone gets this I'll be very surprised.
 
2007-11-13 03:19:01 PM
Yes, you can has imminent death syndrome.

/Obscure?
 
2007-11-13 03:20:49 PM
Passive Aggressive Larry: So wait, was the headline being sarcastic or what, because I was under the impression that it was never really the AIDS that kill you, its the weakened immune system and usually some curable disease that takes over and kills you. If so, submitter needs to do some research, or at least re-word the headline, or basically just DIAF for thinking they were smarter than most people.

Umm yeah, I just repeated a sentence from the article and made a joke about how Magic Johnson has HIV and is fat because he's rich, which is pretty funny.
 
2007-11-13 03:22:54 PM
People who think AIDS is just a gay disease are living in the past.

Girls can give it to you as well. That's scary for me, since my bro is straight and hasn't been getting the safer-sex message every 90 seconds for his whole life. He thinks it's someone else's problem because he's straight and not an IV drug user.

I'm worried he'll think "heck she's on the pill and I'm not gay, no need to wrap the rascal".

OOPS it would be quite ironic if my bro got teh AIDS and I was still clean.....
 
2007-11-13 03:23:01 PM
Oh Yes, Yes, Yes.....AHHHH

Ok..return to thread..:)
 
2007-11-13 03:23:14 PM
altmulder: A tiny net...it is a death sentence

It is a net and it is tiny... nerrr errrrrr!!!
 
2007-11-13 03:24:46 PM
Myrdinn: Well, honestly, AIDS doesn't kill. It is the secondary infections and diseases that slide in, because AIDS disabled the immune system, that kills a body.
AIDS= Acquired ImmunoDeficiency Syndrome.
Lymphadenopathy, the various other infections, all come in because the immune system is disabled.

Still, no cure for HIV/AIDS, so... one shouldn't play the suicide game.


Usually it is Pneumonia that kills most people with aids
 
2007-11-13 03:28:49 PM
Cybernetic: Oakenshield: 25 cents? You're dating yourself.

2 Koins to start 1 Koin to Kontinue

Everyone knows that.
 
2007-11-13 03:29:15 PM
Darcy Darlin

Magic Johnson doesn't have AIDS yet. He's still just HIV+, if I remember correctly.

Magic Johnson isn't HIV+. In fact, AIDS doesn't exist at all. It's a conspiracy to extort AIDS "research" funding from the federal government not to mention donations from the naive, sheep-like public who believe anything the media tells them, including outright lies such as "AIDS exists".
 
2007-11-13 03:42:29 PM
azazyel: lordargent: aids == sapper

Gotta love the Sappers, craziest dudes in the Malazan army!

/GO FID!
//if anyone gets this I'll be very surprised.


Just finished Gardens of the Moon...
 
2007-11-13 03:47:35 PM
vbfischer: azazyel: lordargent: aids == sapper

Gotta love the Sappers, craziest dudes in the Malazan army!

/GO FID!
//if anyone gets this I'll be very surprised.

Just finished Gardens of the Moon...


Good job, that one is very hard to finish. It took me about 30 pages to figure out what the hell was going on. The next 2 books are great (3rd is one of the best) and they happen on the exact same timeline. Right now I'm rereading them all for the 3rd time. I'm rereading The Bonehunters right now, which is my favorite (3rd book is my second favorite). Also in all honesty after you read them all go back and reread them. I was so surprised how much he actually tells you in the first book without giving anything away. And the 8th book should be coming out in April or May. I usually order them from Amazon UK to get them a month or so earlier.
 
2007-11-13 03:47:40 PM
amoricanCrowe: The ultimate cause of death is ALWAYS lack of oxygen to the brain.

/armchair physician
//going off to self-medicate now


False.


Sometimes it is destruction of the brain. Just ask the guy whose head was struck by a 50 cal round--- it wasn't the lack of breathing that caused his brain to exit his body.
 
2007-11-13 03:48:13 PM
30 pages = 300 pages.
 
2007-11-13 03:52:48 PM
I thought Magic doesn't have AIDS because the AIDS lobby, desperately seeking a catalyst for raising awareness about this devastating virus in '91, entered a deal with an over the hill, yet still relevant sports hero and Magic Johnson's foundation that secured millions upon millions for the foundation in exchange for a public admission. Magic Johnson's own compassionate liberal slant led him to accept the deal, knowing that his act of good faith would never kill him, yet, would help hundreds of thousands of people. I thought this was well documented? Even SI ran a piece on how this was all a scam.

/tinfoil hat off
 
2007-11-13 03:59:04 PM
Its not a 100% thing that if you have sex with an infected person it will infect you... odds are you will get infected, but not set in stone. Not just AIDS, any STD.

The odds of lucking out and not catching it are much better with vaginal sex (even more so for the man than the woman) than they are with Buttsecks (whether its ghey buttsecks or corn holing a woman)
 
2007-11-13 04:03:40 PM
WishfulThinker: I thought Magic doesn't have AIDS because the AIDS lobby, desperately seeking a catalyst for raising awareness about this devastating virus in '91, entered a deal with an over the hill, yet still relevant sports hero and Magic Johnson's foundation that secured millions upon millions for the foundation in exchange for a public admission. Magic Johnson's own compassionate liberal slant led him to accept the deal, knowing that his act of good faith would never kill him, yet, would help hundreds of thousands of people. I thought this was well documented? Even SI ran a piece on how this was all a scam.

/tinfoil hat off


I sometimes think that myself cause after the news that he had it I been wearing condoms since
//I wonder what were the condom sales like before and after he came out and said he had aids
 
2007-11-13 04:03:44 PM
Death is avoidable if you have the money...
But theyre not gonna pay...
theyre not gonna paaayaya....
theyre not gonna paaayaaayayaa.....
LAST MONTHS RENNNNNNT

/not gay
//drama nerd
///want some freaky girls, go to the college drama productions
 
2007-11-13 04:04:32 PM
azazyel: lordargent: aids == sapper

Gotta love the Sappers, craziest dudes in the Malazan army!

/GO FID!
//if anyone gets this I'll be very surprised.


I'll get back to you after I finish the series... Long way to go yet. X_X
 
2007-11-13 04:07:58 PM
My little brother has been HIV+ for 20 years, and he's healthy as a horse...could probably kick my ass were he the violent type. He's more the decorating type, though.

/love the boy
//he does the cocktail
///third slashie for luck!
 
2007-11-13 04:10:59 PM
overlord_mike:
Usually it is Pneumonia that kills most people with aids


The heavily treated ones die of liver failure and/or heart disease thanks to the toxicity of the treatment.
 
2007-11-13 04:14:13 PM
FrancoFile: : laffingnetizen: RHMolBio: OK...A very small percentage of people diagnosed with HIV actually serotype back to HIV(-). No one knows why yet, but this is a big issue.

how is that even possible?

Um, because the immune system does its job and destroys the viruses.


If the immune system is doing its job, and destroying the viruses, they would test positive for the antibodies, wouldn't they?
 
2007-11-13 04:17:07 PM
kunibob: azazyel: lordargent: aids == sapper

Gotta love the Sappers, craziest dudes in the Malazan army!

/GO FID!
//if anyone gets this I'll be very surprised.

I'll get back to you after I finish the series... Long way to go yet. X_X


It's amazing, I've read over 6000 (X3) pages of this story and if someone asked me to explain it to them I'd be lost as to where to start.
 
2007-11-13 04:21:47 PM
...because AIDS doesn't exist.
as in the virus is not a virus.
your body can be restored from it's immune deficient state by something inexpensive and easily available, which is why the pharmaceutical companies are not giving it out (they see no profit).
I sound crazy. but it's the biggest scam since communism and I'm sticking by it.
 
2007-11-13 04:23:08 PM
Magic Johnson doesn't have aids. He's got teh hiv. He's all hivvy up in this biatch.
 
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