felixstrange: WTF is up with the Japanese being so desperate to kill whales? Supposedly they're killing them for food, but the government actually subsidizes the whale meat industry because nobody actually wants to eat whale meat.

Bizarre...
So they can thumb their nose at the world?

blueskydei: "Really the ま mud っ filter it was "in Godzilla. He completion dishonor has asked with this, he goes back to the simply leaf and the monstrous beast island are just we."???

I love babelfish. Hehe.

This is what Google's Language tools gave me:
"Godzilla, the reality is pain in the ass. He is now complete dishonored hopes, and he just leaves monster dates back to the island and we only."

Originally, I wrote, "That Godzilla is such pain in the ass. I hope his dishonor is complete, and he just goes back to Monster Island and leaves us alone."

What I want is something that will translate Japanese to English correctly, and also give the phonetic pronunciation of the Japanese text. I don't know how to say 遅延突き合わせモンキー.*

^{*Retarded buttmonkey}

"From Hell's heart, I stab at thee"

I thought this was a Simpsons reference. Y'know, when Burns shuts off Springfield's power?

I'm ignorant.

vroomazoom: killing whales makes people money. making money makes sense.

Not to everyone it doesn't. And certainly not at any cost.

The Japanese also have killed Koreans and Chinese in the name of science.

vroomazoom: killing whales makes people money. making money makes sense.

If it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make cents!

bartlebee You know who else killed people in the name of science...


/I think that's how the joke goes...
//not sure if its funny.

The unique male whale, named Migaloo - an Aboriginal word for "white fella"

So, racial slurs are A-OK when dark-skinned people use them, it seems. I'm willing to bet it's their equivalent of Guy Gibson's (black) dog in The Dambusters being called attractive and successful African-American.

MadAmos: Sigh. I'm not an environmentalist, I don't value animals over people. I eat meat and think that we should all send PETA pictures of our family BBQ's every year.

Sigh. As a cannibal, I don't value other people over the prospect of a tasty meal. I eat people and routinely send pictures of their roasting carcasses to their family members. The rest of you non-people-eaters are a bunch of pussies.

theprinceofwands: vroomazoom: killing whales makes people money. making money makes sense.

Not to everyone it doesn't. And certainly not at any cost.

not at any cost. but at the cost of a few whales it does.

Killing whales makes more fish available for people to eat.

African or Euro... Oh nevermind...

If whales were really smarter than humans they would have attached lasers to their frickin' heads eons ago and wiped out humanity.

irishdncr83: Saborlas: Let this be a lesson to us: never use atomic weapons again. 50 years later, you get one FARKED UP culture.

They were farked up to begin with. Take a Japanese history class.

Zarkin Frood: Well, yeah. When you're one of the world's most technologically advanced countries, why not participate in an outmoded, outdated, barbaric practice? I mean, duh.. right?

So while we're talking about ancient trades, they should also outlaw prostitution then?

Well, one of the main differences there is that people don't generally kill and eat the prostitute and she/he has a choice in the matter.

vroomazoom: making money makes sense.

Sigh. As cannibal and slave auctioneer, I'd say you have a point. I recently purchased a young Chinese girl's liver on eBay (don't worry, my liver's fine. I was just hungry). Hey, free market, baybee!

"Oh no, not again."

Prosthetic Anus: Well, one of the main differences there is that people don't generally kill and eat the prostitute and she/he has a choice in the matter.

Yes but he was implying that since it's so old and supposedly "outdated" that it shouldn't be used. I was simply stating that since something's an old art/trade/whatever doesn't necessarily mean that it needs to be tossed out.

felixstrange: vroomazoom: making money makes sense.

Sigh. As cannibal and slave auctioneer, I'd say you have a point. I recently purchased a young Chinese girl's liver on eBay (don't worry, my liver's fine. I was just hungry). Hey, free market, baybee!

right. humans and non-humans have equivalent rights. good point.

Funny how Star Trek II, IV and "Dickie Moe" come together here.

From story: In a sign of how healthy the population of humpbacks has become, a female and her calf paid a short visit to Sydney Harbour today.

They were just looking for Nemo at 42 Wallaby Way.

Prosthetic Anus:

Well, one of the main differences there is that people don't generally kill and eat the prostitute and she/he has a choice in the matter.

Hey, speak for yourself.

Saborlas: Let this be a lesson to us: never use atomic weapons again. 50 years later, you get one FARKED UP culture.

Uh... the Japanese have been whaling since before your ancestors learned that dropping seeds on the ground means thicker grass next year. Are these nukes you speak of hooked to a chronosphere or something?

//Build more silos.

The Japanese only continue with the whaling industry out of a kind of inertia of tradition.

vroomazoom:

right. humans and non-humans have equivalent rights. good point.

Almost as insightful as your point that animals have no rights and that profit is the only value that needs to be considered in this situation.

See how stupid you look when you make sweeping generalizations?

FTA:
He has been hailed as modern day Moby Dick, even though the creature in Herman Melville's 1851 classic was a sperm whale.

aaahahaha.... *sigh*

I weeps for our children

bartlebee: The Japanese also have killed Koreans and Chinese in the name of science.

Ouch!

Score +1 for bartlebee

OtherLittleGuy: filth: I thought it was going to be an obit for Ricardo Montalban.

Add me to this.

Same.

felixstrange

Sigh. As a cannibal, I don't value other people over the prospect of a tasty meal. I eat people and routinely send pictures of their roasting carcasses to their family members. The rest of you non-people-eaters are a bunch of pussies.

Well, if cannibalism was a societal norm and a fringe group tried to make me feel guilty about it, perhaps that would be appropriate. Restating what I suggested as you did is a logical fallacy. I'm not a cow, nor am I speaking of sending pictures to the herd from which my dinner was carved.

I don't have a problem with vegetarians, even ones who are so for moral reasons. I do have a problem with militant groups that attempt to force their views upon me. So my response is to push back against them - as we are both entitled to free speech.

Back to the actual point of the Boobies I made - I've seen some posts now that say the Japanese government subsidizes the whale meat industry. Does anyone have any background on that policy - there must be some deeper economic reason to be pushing their whaling operations like this. It can't all be simple arrogance, that's American territory dang it.

Phillylou: Nocens: phwew, Ricardo is still kicking with his Corinthian leather.


//I really do miss him saying "Corinthian leather"
///yes, if you remember those commercials, you're old too

That's "plush" Corinthian leather.

IIRC, it's "rich Corinthian leather."

/owned a used Volare in the late '80s
//was teased mercilessly
///but oh, that leather

oldebayer: All you namby-pamby hippies just shut up and stop blubbering about this genetically insufficient whale.

If allowed to live, while all others are slaughtered, after a while all we'll have are these white atrocities, and people reading Moby Dick will wonder what's so farking special about a white whale, when they're all white.

/Brushes off hands, goes to look for other dead threads to poke.

STFU you inconsiderate arsewipe. I'm far from being some hippy environmentalist, but jesus christ, do ya have to kill EVERYTHING? Just let the farking whale live. Should be easy to, being it's white as snow and all. Some shiat is just plain nice to see in the wild. Not like there are other whales they can hunt for.

felixstrange: vroomazoom:

right. humans and non-humans have equivalent rights. good point.

Almost as insightful as your point that animals have no rights and that profit is the only value that needs to be considered in this situation.

See how stupid you look when you make sweeping generalizations?

no. i dont think it is stupid to say that animals have no rights.

Further I did not say that profit was the only value that needed to be considered. I said it made sense to make profit, and a claim that whaling "makes no sense" is to claim that making profit makes no sense, or that whaling does not make profit.

Animals have no rights is as sweeping of a generalisation as plants have no rights, or rocks have no rights.

It is not the generalization to which you object, and to claim so is to fail to understand your own position.

Can we subtly point out that Rosie contains 83% more blubber & see if they'll harpoon her?

fanbladesaresharp: oldebayer: All you namby-pamby hippies just shut up and stop blubbering about this genetically insufficient whale.

If allowed to live, while all others are slaughtered, after a while all we'll have are these white atrocities, and people reading Moby Dick will wonder what's so farking special about a white whale, when they're all white.

/Brushes off hands, goes to look for other dead threads to poke.

STFU you inconsiderate arsewipe. I'm far from being some hippy environmentalist, but jesus christ, do ya have to kill EVERYTHING? Just let the farking whale live. Should be easy to, being it's white as snow and all. Some shiat is just plain nice to see in the wild. Not like there are other whales they can hunt for.

ha! your right to see a white whale is greater than someones right to earn a living. how can you call someone else inconsiderate when you look only to your own desire to see pretty things in making judgements about how others should act?

Now that's just sad. The word filters are kinda dumb aren't they...

The "original post that I made" is possibly what I should have said. Oh well.

Never mind, I had the Volare confused with the Cordoba. The Volare had another iconic ad. At least, I think it did.

Oh, never mind.

Brilliant, Subby, Brilliant.

MadAmos: Well, if cannibalism was a societal norm and a fringe group tried to make me feel guilty about it, perhaps that would be appropriate.

So morality is determined by societal norms?

Restating what I suggested as you did is a logical fallacy. I'm not a cow, nor am I speaking of sending pictures to the herd from which my dinner was carved.

Actually, it's ridiculous, but not fallacious. If I've decided that I'm superior to other human beings, why shouldn't I be able to use them for food?

To be honest. I'm not really interested in this discussion. I just think its funny when people are proud of themselves because they eat meat.

Also, the only people care or even pay attention to PETA are usually the aformentioned.

The_one_with_that_guy:
felixstrange: WTF is up with the Japanese being so desperate to kill whales? Supposedly they're killing them for food, but the government actually subsidizes the whale meat industry because nobody actually wants to eat whale meat.

So they can thumb their nose at the world?

Exactly. Anti-whaling activists (particularly the foreign-based organizations) are going about this the entirely wrong way. They're using loud carnival tactics that only make Japan even more determined to continue whaling.

If the activists really cared about "saving the whales" instead of wanking themselves by "teaching those damn whale-killing Japs a lesson", then they could easily halt the whaling by appealing to Japanese nationalism. Large-scale whaling isn't some long honorable Japanese tradition, it was actually introduced by American occupation forces after World War 2 because postwar Japan had a severe shortage of protien food sources. Large-scale whaling is actually a symbol of Japan's defeat at the hands of the Allies.

That should give you some example of how incompetant, arrogant, and stupidly blind to basic Japanese psychology the anti-whaling activists are. They've annoyed the Japanese so much that Japan willingly continues to engage in a filthy-gaijin whaling JUST TO PISS THEM OFF. Honestly, at this point the activists would help the whales more if they'd just shut the fark up.

Spartan Dave: Can we subtly point out that Rosie contains 83% more blubber & see if they'll harpoon her?

I'll take one keyboard, please.

vroomazoom: fanbladesaresharp: oldebayer: All you namby-pamby hippies just shut up and stop blubbering about this genetically insufficient whale.

If allowed to live, while all others are slaughtered, after a while all we'll have are these white atrocities, and people reading Moby Dick will wonder what's so farking special about a white whale, when they're all white.

/Brushes off hands, goes to look for other dead threads to poke.

STFU you inconsiderate arsewipe. I'm far from being some hippy environmentalist, but jesus christ, do ya have to kill EVERYTHING? Just let the farking whale live. Should be easy to, being it's white as snow and all. Some shiat is just plain nice to see in the wild. Not like there are other whales they can hunt for.

ha! your right to see a white whale is greater than someones right to earn a living. how can you call someone else inconsiderate when you look only to your own desire to see pretty things in making judgements about how others should act?

In this case yes, because there's an ocean full of other shiat they can compete on the global market for. Sea cucumbers anyone? Chilean Sea Bass? Urchins? Clams, squid....how many other "products" of the sea do you want me to list? And who the hell eats whale?

The whale is farking cool to look at. Don't be such a money hungry tool and just let the damn thing swim by. It's that easy.

vroomazoom: Animals have no rights is as sweeping of a generalisation as plants have no rights, or rocks have no rights.

I only hope you remember this when you find me barbecuing your kids puppy...

Ace Frehley just died and this is the main topic?

/uuuuhhggggg

felixstrange 2007-11-12 07:06:15 PM

So morality is determined by societal norms?

Yes? Of course it is. Personal morality is a different concept, but general morality is based on the values of whatever culture is in question. What the majority of people feel is right will be allowed and encouraged, what the majority feels is wrong will be illegal and punished. There isn't any other way to define morality.

Jesterian: felixstrange 2007-11-12 07:06:15 PM

So morality is determined by societal norms?

Yes? Of course it is. Personal morality is a different concept, but general morality is based on the values of whatever culture is in question. What the majority of people feel is right will be allowed and encouraged, what the majority feels is wrong will be illegal and punished. There isn't any other way to define morality.

that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Every way to define morality is different from that. Morality = legality. Morality is not defined as cultural norms by any moral thinker I have ever read.

thermodie: Ace Frehley just died and this is the main topic?

/uuuuhhggggg

Wait. What? You got a link there hoss?

vroomazoom: fanbladesaresharp:

The whale is farking cool to look at. Don't be such a money hungry tool and just let the damn thing swim by. It's that easy.

I am not money hungry. I don't make any money off of this or any other whale. I dont see why someone who is trying to make a living should not do so, because you think that their method of making money is cool to look at.

You dropped this:

(/b)

hmm. that was supposed to be morality does not equal legality.

/obvious