NightOwl2255: No doubt you are right. But, I have a 6 year old daughter. And the wife and I are the type that will not let her out of our sight. My mind knows that as she gets older we will have to give her more freedom. But gawd damn the thought of her getting snatched up and harmed is enough to keep her locked in her room till she's 20.

Well, 6 is probably a little young to be unaccompanied.

FeFiFoFark:
MISSING CHILDREN:
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
• 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being reported missing each day.
• 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
• 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
• 115 children were the victims of "stereotypical" kidnapping.

797,500 total missing.
-203,900 taken by family
-58,200 taken by non-family
----------------------------
535,400

How much do you want to bet that the majority of the 535 thousand are teenage runaways?

That is, if these numbers are even true.

FeFiFoFark:
I'm not saying they weren't there, but they sure as hell weren't as bold as the ones today are. You see video of guys just walking up and grabbing 14 y.o. kids and taking them off in broad daylight. This rarely, if ever, happened 30 yrs ago.

It happened, probably with the same frequency, difference is we didn't have video cameras everywhere capturing the moment

TO ALL THE PEOPLE's who keep their delicate Copulated Spawn safe indoors, a NEWS FLASH:

Most Kiddy Molesters are known to the child.

So, most likely, it could be your spouse, uncle, aunt, cousin, your step-father, your friends, your husband. YOU. And not some complete stranger.

Oh, dear. Can I recommend one of these for the girls?



And a butt plug and:



for the lad.

There are some huge crotch critters at the local grade school. The parent drives them there, and pick them up again. No wonder they are huge. Some of the parents' are "Biggie Size" too.

In my day, we walked 2 miles, up hill, in 3 feet of snow, both ways.

I do not regret NOT having crotch critters. I thank god for birth control.

Pocket Ninja: That is sad. I remember being a kid and leaving the house on a Saturday morning right after breakfast to hook up with friends. We'd be out and about all morning, playing in the woods or the new housing development or whatever. We'd descend on someone's house around lunchtime for food, then head out again. No cell phones, no adult monitors, no fences--just a pack of kids roaming as far as we could range on our bikes. The only real rule was that we had to be home for dinner. I feel sorry for kids who can't grow up having that kind of freedom anymore.

Same thing growing up here in Oregon in the 70's-80's

Children and dogs belong outside. They are dirty and they break things. Outside is their natural habitat. They are allowed in my home to sleep, bathe, study and eat, and if the temperature falls below 50 degrees.

This is simply good sense.

lilplatinum: FeFiFoFark: lilplatinum

you don't have kids.
you're like a marrige counselor who's never been married.

If you mean I can look at the situation analytically and without irrational panic and suceptability to fearmongering, then yes, your analogy is apt..

no, what I mean is you have no idea whatsoever of the joy, love, frustration, care, complication and beauty a child adds to you life.

swankywanky: Pure Slaughter Value: Question regarding "My lawn, get off it".

I live in an apartment building in Queens. What do I say?

"My vestibule...get off it"

"My fire escape...get off it"

?????

Queens?

"Run or I start shooting?"

;-P

Ha, my neighborhood is Sunnyside, where you may have an occasional off-the-boat Irishman go ballistic on you because you like Arsenal instead of Manchester U but that's about it.

An occasional murder once a year or so, but that's it.

FeFiFoFark:
no, what I mean is you have no idea whatsoever of the joy, love, frustration, care, complication and beauty a child adds to you life.

Of course I do I have 4 of them in my trunk...

swingerhead: I thought one fifth of U.S. American children werent allowed to go outside because they dont have maps, and might get lost, in the Iraq or South Africa.

FTFY

Thinking of the "big" picture. Soon crotch critters will be too fat for molesters to want.

win/win

In the development I live in I NEVER see ANYBODY come out of their house. its truly creepy, I know there are people there, yet I never see anyone. when did sunlight and fresh air become poison?

These are the same kids that refer to their PS3 as "My preccciousss!"

Evenbiggerknickers: Rousseau: = the Sperminator


: )


5 natural, 10 adopted

lilbordr: I went to Rochester Insitute of Technology and if I lived in ROC I wouldn't want my kid going out into that shiat hole either...
/Crochester

I grew up in the area, and yeah, the Northeast side of town is pretty rough. I wouldn't want my kids straying too far around there. But the South side of town isn't bad at all, I spent a good part of my childhood at Genesee Valley Park, and the suburbs are downright tame compared to those of larger cities.

I haven't been back to that area since '01, but I don't think it's changed all that much. It didn't change all that much in the 21 years that I lived there.

FeFiFoFark:
no, what I mean is you have no idea whatsoever of the joy, love, frustration, care, complication and beauty a child adds to you life.

That being said, my ignorance of the bliss and emotional ties of parenting does not in any way affect my ability to rationally look at statistics and know there is no evidence that it is far more dangerous now as a child than it was when I grew up or when you grew up.

I won't bother reading most of htis thread, as I'm aware of how these go.

For the most part, it's probably the usual stuff, smart-asses know-it-alls about how stupid parents are.

And all I can say is the fact is, when I was a kid around 10, I never had cars pulling over asking for sexual stuff like my daughter had TWICE in the last six months, going to the park and such. So she can't go unless the other kids go too, and with the walky-talkies.

So, you know what, I'd rather be overbearing than out putting posters up.

QuitWhileYoureAhead: FeFiFoFark:
MISSING CHILDREN:
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
• 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being reported missing each day.
• 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
• 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
• 115 children were the victims of "stereotypical" kidnapping.

797,500 total missing.
-203,900 taken by family
-58,200 taken by non-family
----------------------------
535,400

How much do you want to bet that the majority of the 535 thousand are teenage runaways?

That is, if these numbers are even true.

Don't forget that 797,500 reported missing includes the cases where the kids were lost at the mall or were at their friends house a couple hours past curfew.

RabidOstrich: [...] I've been TV free for 2 years now [...] I live in an older, run down trailer park [...]

Just so you guys don't get the wrong impression, not all of us free-thinkers live in trailer parks. I've also been off TV for about 3 years, but am otherwise cleverly disguised as a common yuppie.

To get back on topic, any child of mine (none so far) between the ages of 5 and 23 will not be allowed inside the house between sunup and sundown unless they have a doctor's note. Even if I end up living on a highway median 2 feet from the NAMBLA world headquarters.

QuitWhileYoureAhead: FeFiFoFark:
MISSING CHILDREN:
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
• 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being reported missing each day.
• 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
• 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
• 115 children were the victims of "stereotypical" kidnapping.

797,500 total missing.
-203,900 taken by family
-58,200 taken by non-family
----------------------------
535,400

How much do you want to bet that the majority of the 535 thousand are teenage runaways?

That is, if these numbers are even true.

see post above. I don't claim any of these numbers are valid. I just used them to point out use/misuse of the source. And unless you can prove the numbers wrong - I wouldn't be betting if I were you.

Rousseau: 5 natural, 10 adopted

And 1 bathroom? :)

BobtheFascist: I had the luxury of spending my younger years in a small town. You could go anywhere, anytime. My parents practically threw me out of the house. It was when I moved to the 'burbs as a teen that I noticed no one ever went out. I swear I was one of the few kids in my 'hood with a damn bike. Later, as an adult, I moved to the inner city. Kids everywhere, all the time. On that level it was like I was in a small town again.

I grew up out in the sticks. My mom would literally lock us out of the house during the summer.

imfallen_angel: I won't bother reading most of htis thread, as I'm aware of how these go.

For the most part, it's probably the usual stuff, smart-asses know-it-alls about how stupid parents are.

And all I can say is the fact is, when I was a kid around 10, I never had cars pulling over asking for sexual stuff like my daughter had TWICE in the last six months, going to the park and such. So she can't go unless the other kids go too, and with the walky-talkies.

So, you know what, I'd rather be overbearing than out putting posters up.

Thank you sexually suggestive music and non-stop visuals from TV and magazines for creating this environment.

One-fifth of all U.S. children aren't allowed to go outside at all due to parents' fear of danger from pedophiles, traffic, and crime

I say good! Nothin' like a little child-humpin' to put some hair on their chests. Plus it keeps the little turds off my lawn.

*steps off crazy-old man soapbox*

This crap always always happened. It just never got reported before because you didn't mention sex in any way/shape/form/allusion too - there might be women and children reading the paper don'tch know. 60 years ago they didn't even take photographs of FDR where you could see he was crippled - think about that.

Beyond that back in the day when cops caught anyone they even thought might be a child molester - those kind of people just tend to be naturally clutzes. Fall down stairs all the time. Trip into curbs. That kind of thing.

/Not sayin' it was a good thing.
//I'm just sayin' that unless someone DA or something wanted a show trial it was "beaten to death and sweep 'em under the rug" so as not to panic anyone. They went out of their way to avoid making a society like ours.

ScottMpls: Rousseau: 5 natural, 10 adopted

And 1 bathroom? :)

LOL

Only on camping trips, but it was a big one.

cubsfan07:
Granted, I live in south Florida (where there's no shortage of sickos, farktards, dumbshiats and douchebags).

Or, as we in the rest of the world refer to them as, there's no shortage of people from Florida.

Honestly, this is not going to work out so well for the precious little snowflakes. If they think being locked up is bad now, just wait until they go away to college.



PS. That woman's name is Nicole Hadcock. Hahahahaha. Hadcock. That's you that is. Nicole Hadcock, now Nicole Haskids.

I feel so much better getting that juvenile humour out of my system.

Responsible parenting

I haven't read the thread, but here is my 2 cents anyway:
Solutions? Don't have kids...EVER! They are just leeches anyway.
For the people with children? Keep your brats inside so I wont have to deal with your little snowflake riding her bike in the middle of the road completely oblivious to me driving behind her in my car.
Yes...I have two fat pre-teen girls at the entrance to my neighborhood that do this constantly. Where the hell are the parents? Inside watching American Idol.
Bastards.

/If you think this message from me is hateful, you are quite correct.
//Children are parasites.
///The future for our children is incredibly bleak anyway.
////Vasectomies are cheap.
//I used to live in a trailer park. Thank God I'm out of there. The children had NO supervision out there.

swingerhead [TotalFark] Quote 2007-11-12 02:07:13 PM
I thought one fifth of U.S. children... might get lost, in Iraq or South Africa.

You won't get lost in South Africa; you get A.I.D.S. in South Africa!

FeFiFoFark: QuitWhileYoureAhead: FeFiFoFark:
MISSING CHILDREN:
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
• 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being reported missing each day.
• 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
• 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
• 115 children were the victims of "stereotypical" kidnapping.

797,500 total missing.
-203,900 taken by family
-58,200 taken by non-family
----------------------------
535,400

How much do you want to bet that the majority of the 535 thousand are teenage runaways?

That is, if these numbers are even true.

see post above. I don't claim any of these numbers are valid. I just used them to point out use/misuse of the source. And unless you can prove the numbers wrong - I wouldn't be betting if I were you.

Well, give us a link to where you got those numbers so nobody would guess if they're real or not.

reinhardt stahlhelm: Drive through neighborhoods around here and you never see kids outside. Growing up in suburban Kansas City, MO.(Blue Springs)during the seventies was great. A million house in various states of completion in which to play. Roaming gangs of youths engaging in mostly harmless bottle rocket fights, dirt clod battles, or playing football. Bike rides without destination, from dawn to dusk. The only television worth watching was Sunday football. Three channels of crap most of the time. I wish I would have appreciated it more at the time. I thought summer days were supposed to be endless.
Oh, yeah...the Chiefs sucked then too! HA

Holy crap, when did you grow up in Blue Springs? I did some growing up there myself.

My parents grew up in the Depression era. They ran around loose as kids, but knew everyone for miles around (my Mom was related to most of them in her area). So they in turn let me run loose as a kid, forty years ago, like every other parent. Kids I knew were all victims of crime at one time or another. We learned to handle ourselves and usually didn't tell our parents. Maybe that's why parents today are so paranoid.

Now, if your children aren't 100% supervised til age 12, you are branded a bad parent. The police picked up my seven year old and brought her home because a kid that age shouldn't be on the street. Cripes, she was next door! It's not even a busy street!

lilplatinum: FeFiFoFark:
no, what I mean is you have no idea whatsoever of the joy, love, frustration, care, complication and beauty a child adds to you life.

That being said, my ignorance of the bliss and emotional ties of parenting does not in any way affect my ability to rationally look at statistics and know there is no evidence that it is far more dangerous now as a child than it was when I grew up or when you grew up.

I understand your point but,

1. I don't know how rational you are
2. I don't know what stats you're looking at or their source.
3. the fact that there are more cars on the road today alone makes life more dangerous for a kid

again, i'm not selling fear - only caution.

djrev: I haven't read the thread, but here is my 2 cents anyway:
Solutions? Don't have kids...EVER! They are just leeches anyway.
For the people with children? Keep your brats inside so I wont have to deal with your little snowflake riding her bike in the middle of the road completely oblivious to me driving behind her in my car.
Yes...I have two fat pre-teen girls at the entrance to my neighborhood that do this constantly. Where the hell are the parents? Inside watching American Idol.
Bastards.

/If you think this message from me is hateful, you are quite correct.
//Children are parasites.
///The future for our children is incredibly bleak anyway.
////Vasectomies are cheap.
//I used to live in a trailer park. Thank God I'm out of there. The children had NO supervision out there.

I used to think that way too, until I had a child.

/how do you explain color to a blind man?

The Pussification of today's youth continues.

QuitWhileYoureAhead:
Well, give us a link to where you got those numbers so nobody would guess if they're real or not.

Link (new window)


have at it, hoss

We need our next President to be a God fearing man who listens to Jesus. Then we can have a safe society where homos and drug addicts can't hurt our children.

/ Hey you kids... get off my lawn! (and into my bedroom)
// satire for those who didn't figure it out

When shopping for our first home after we started having children, I developed a quick analysis list of things to avoid near a prospective home to minimize safety concerns.

Pawn shops, liquor stores, cash checking stores, highways and central traffic arteries, mom/pop convenience stores, gang graffiti on street signs, yard parkers, and homes with several adult males hanging out on the front porch during normal work hours, and underperforming schools.

Downtown Dave: Responsible parenting



Sometimes you have to take the kids to the doctor.

wh0mprat: We used to break into houses, set fires, steal cigarrettes and explore the swamp during spring runoff. Good times..

Sounds like you were a dirty little bastard, too!

We used to dig 3ft deep holes and cover them with dead weeds.

My cousin soaked a paper grocery bag full of newspapers in gasoline, lit it, and dropped it off an overpass.

Oh yeah - and we had GUNS, too!

Darth Invictus: Oh yeah - and we had GUNS, too!

Big farking guns, with giant farking ammo!

/I died a little when denis leary gave up smoking.

FeFiFoFark: QuitWhileYoureAhead:
Well, give us a link to where you got those numbers so nobody would guess if they're real or not.

Link (new window)


have at it, hoss

I was expecting the actual Justice department source. This does nothing.