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(College Humor)   If Jack Bauer and "24" were around in 1994   ( divider line
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2007-11-09 02:47:53 PM  
I think the only time torture would be justified is if the torturer feels that it is important enough that he would risk going to prison for doing so. If a cause is important enough that you would die for it, I'd think you'd also be willing to go to prison for it. If somebody tortures a terrorist to save thousands of lives, let them have a jury trial, if it was truly justified no jury would convict. As soon as there are legal reasons to torture someone, those reasons can be expanded upon to justify torture for lesser reasons.

2007-11-09 02:55:46 PM  
anopheles: Also, TCP/IP would require you to set up Trumpet Winsock to work correctly on Win3.1, and that was probably too complicated and unreliable to work correctly

I had safely buried those memories... until you had to bring them up again. Damn you, damn you to mid-90's Microsoft Tech Support.
2007-11-09 03:07:37 PM  
Meh... I guess it's funny for those that don't really remember 1994.

I'm not usually the one to point out technical inaccuracies in TV dramas, especially comedies. I get it, its fiction, they take license to make it more funny

But come on. if the entire basis of your joke is to poke fun at the technology of a very specific year,(a year not that long ago), then you should probably get the technology somewhat right.

As other have posted, cops had really good walkie talkies in 1994. Cell phones were very common in the business world, and high speed printers (laser, band, even high speed dot matrix) were common as dirt in 1994. And the US government did have high speed internet in 1994. So did most major universities. Hell, I had access to it then.

For those of us that remember the early '90s really well, I guess watching something like this is akin to joking that people in the 1960's still used the telegraph.

/Would have been a lot funnier if they'd taken the time to do it right.
2007-11-09 03:14:42 PM  
Heh - all you fools ragging on inkjets not being around til the 1990's - Hah!

My first (!) printer was a Radio Shack/Tandy CGP-220 (which was a re-badged Canon inkjet) - CGP stood for Color Graphics Printer (yeah, color, beeyotch!) - hooked up to my oh-so-awesome TRS-80 Color Computer 2 with 64K (and later, a Color Computer 3). Got it in 1985 or so (when I was around 10 years old). Sure, it wasn't cheap (I seem to remember it was somewhere around $600), but it was AWESOME (ok, just a bit too much sarcasm there).

Actually, it was a great printer, and worked perfectly until I packed it up around 1991 after leaving high school. Once I got it back (along with all my other Color Computer junk), the ink cartriges were completely dried out and the casing had turned yellow. As far as I know, the printer still works, if I could just get it cleaned and re-filled (fat chance of that ever happenning).

I guess I really was a spoiled brat kid - heh.
2007-11-09 03:16:45 PM  
Despite all the nitpickers who desperately need to go out and get a life, the video is pretty damned funny.
2007-11-09 03:33:00 PM  
El_Dan: But "24" is propagandistic in its display of torture as necessary and beneficial.

That's just not true. Plenty of the time, especially lately, the torture doesn't even work.
2007-11-09 03:37:00 PM  
purple helmet
Despite all the nitpickers who desperately need to go out and get a life, the video is pretty damned funny.

I get the point about artistic license, and I'm not usually that nitpicker. But come on, they based their entire joke on the technology of a specific year and they got it almost completely wrong.

If the entire film were exactly the same, but they replaced the year 1994 with the year 2000, would those dot matrix printer jokes and complete lack of radios and cell phones have been just as funny?? Of course not, everyone here would be slamming the thing as stupid.

The truth is, most of that tech was just as outmoded in 1994 as it was in 2000. And the most of the modern tech they were missing was actually common place in 1994

So for some of us who actually remember the year 1994, this was more lazy than funny.
2007-11-09 03:43:37 PM  


Englebert Slaptyback you win for the Eddie Izzard reference.

Oh, I... Oh.

Well, thank you very much!
2007-11-09 03:49:39 PM  
Hilarious :D they did however have laserprinters back in 1994 :D
2007-11-09 03:53:01 PM  
where is the video tag smitty?
2007-11-09 04:32:32 PM  
That was nothing short of amazing.
2007-11-09 04:34:43 PM  
Does anyone know the production cost of videos like that? It was high quality and that had a location and props.
2007-11-09 04:36:46 PM  
wildcardjack: But why would the scene be shot in the HD aspect ratio?

Jesus Christ, THIS!

/stole my thunder, wildcardjack:
2007-11-09 04:52:39 PM  
anopheles: assumes that AOL allowed TCP/IP sessions in 1993/1994? (Also, TCP/IP would require you to set up Trumpet Winsock to work correctly on Win3.1, and that was probably too complicated and unreliable to work correctly.)

I used trumpet winsock 2.1f all the time back then. worked great!

And it still lives (new window)
2007-11-09 05:09:29 PM  
On a side note...that video of the blimp on that page is incredibly boring. FYI.
2007-11-09 05:43:01 PM  
O dear lord, dialup internet and TCP/IP.

I had forgotten... and I was fine with that.
2007-11-09 06:59:45 PM  
Use the Z-modem option to transfer the file!!!

/386SX with math-co, 16 meg RAM and 25 meg HD.
//Shoved everything into upper memory for Joe Montana.
2007-11-09 07:35:49 PM  

/remember, this site is frequented by people who were MAX 9 in 1994
2007-11-09 07:57:10 PM  
TransFarkers: ummm. wtf was that Squelching noise??

OMFG, srsly?
2007-11-09 09:02:28 PM  
that was so funny, better then the actual show.
2007-11-09 10:56:06 PM  
Enuratique: wildcardjack: But why would the scene be shot in the HD aspect ratio?

Jesus Christ, THIS!

/stole my thunder, wildcardjack:

I believe that Babylon 5 started to film in widescreen starting with the first season, which would have been 1994, or possible the second, starting in 1995. But in either case, B5 was in syndication and 24 would have been produced by a major network, and could afford to be visionary, even if only a year or two ahead.
2007-11-09 11:15:18 PM  
TransFarkers: ummm. wtf was that Squelching noise??
2007-11-10 12:49:33 AM  
Last night, I sucked a strange man's penis.

This was even gayer than that.
2007-11-10 01:12:19 AM  
I liked it and laughed at the references. Although the technology featured was more 1988-1990 however. Most of our modern tech (broadband/cell phones/not-dot-matrix printers) was coming online around 1994 (and I'd assume an elite govt agency would be an early adapter). But I digress.

The Nancy Kerrigan reference made me think of Tonya Harding which made me think of her wedding video (NSFW) (new window)
2007-11-10 01:24:34 AM  
Englebert Slaptyback

"Scott Andreson"?? How about "Marc Andreeson Andreessen"?

/sorry, pet peeve
//seriously, that's how's it's spelled
2007-11-10 01:59:40 AM  
Evidently there were only 30 seconds in a minute back in '94.
2007-11-10 03:24:22 AM  
RandomRandom: Meh...

As other have posted, cops had really good walkie talkies in 1994.

/Would have been a lot funnier if they'd taken the time to do it right.

OMG, if you are going to be snarky about the video, why don't you get it right. Police Officers use radios, either portables or mobiles. Portables can be carried around by the Officer and usually have an attached microphone at the shoulder. Mobiles are permanently mounted in the patrol car. Walkie Talkies are used by civilians. The technology difference between the two is quite varied, extremely technical, and expensive.
2007-11-10 04:06:43 AM  
shiat, I had a retail job using dot matrix printers and shiatty terminals til 2005. They're probably still using them.
2007-11-10 04:11:29 AM  
Ok, someone said, I had a laser printer back in 1994. Ok, you musta been rich as they costed somewhere in the round of 1200 or more dollars.

Someone else mentioned that 3.11 windows was around in 1994, true, but how many people upgraded? I still have a problem today with my clients upgrading to sp2.

Someone else mentioned Gopher? yea.. Gopher and Mosaic were only used by the elite, so yea, this description of 24 in 1994 was fairly accurate.

but anyways, ITS JUST FRICKEN COMEDY.. stop being a perfectionist.. LOL
2007-11-10 04:26:01 AM  
Prodigy's down!
2007-11-10 09:55:27 AM  
Well of course the President couldn't talk to CTU, he was trying to use a Nortel VoIP phone! They werent invented yet!

Minor fault aside, that was hilarious.
2007-11-10 11:56:02 AM  
There are few anachronistic errors (don't look too close at the cars) but still lots of fun.

Plus even a nerd like me had a Cellular One Motorola Flip phone in '94...

...and our company had 'INTERNET' access that wasn't modem based. At least CTU would have had a dedicated line.

Mind you calling AOL 'the INTERNET' wasn't correct vernacular for 1994 either.

Geocities wasn't founded until LATE 1994 (and was originally called BHI), the Nancy Kerrigan incident happened in January 1994.

I know - picky picky picky. Still this vid was lots of fun.

And what of the two 'terrorist' that overheard the modem and AOL? Were they just waiting around to get blowed up?
2007-11-10 02:47:21 PM  
That was hilarious! And it really shows how far we've come.
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