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2007-11-07 08:17:16 AM
Hardly worthy of even a Mortal Kombat chuckle
 
2007-11-07 08:18:21 AM
RedMosquito: I didn't know we had so many Finnish Farkers.

Hei!


Well, from what I know, drinking and the internets are pretty much all that's on outside of helsinki.
 
2007-11-07 08:19:07 AM
Onkel Buck:
Kinda took the power away from the media in that rant. How are they going to point fingers ask why and how, now? I think they will have to blame Darwin, based on the "natural selection" reference.

People WILL. My initial trolly comment here was (hopefully) obviously a joke, but you can bet that the usual religious asshats will be sincerely hollering about how "EEEEVIL DARWINIZM killed those Finns!!1!!1!!"
 
2007-11-07 08:19:33 AM
PedanticSimpleton has to be the most appropriate Fark handle ever!

/Not of you per se sir/madame, but of the Fark community at large.
//Well played
 
2007-11-07 08:20:22 AM
hudsucker proxy: Well, from what I know, drinking and the internets are pretty much all that's on outside of helsinki.

That made me check out your profile. Promptly read this bit:

"Also, the American bell curve of intelligence is probably shaped a tad different from the one here in Europe. If an American is smart, he's pretty damn smart, if he's ignorant, god bless him, he's one ignorant, ignorant man..."

I laughed my ass off. Thank you, good sir...btw, what state in the US did you live in?
 
2007-11-07 08:20:26 AM
I blame Video Games and Bush.
 
2007-11-07 08:20:43 AM
he has bad hair in the photos
 
2007-11-07 08:21:23 AM
from the look of that video and his profile it looks like we knew it was coming...
 
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2007-11-07 08:21:30 AM
Finland? What state is that in?

/not in the US?
//they just qualified for statehood
 
2007-11-07 08:21:38 AM
juliaemma Quote 2007-11-07 07:41:33 AM
They have guns in Finland? Who knew.


The Finns have and make, great guns. They have been shooting Russians with them for years.
 
2007-11-07 08:22:36 AM
ready for tomorrows headline? "Scandinavian Heavy Metal bands responsible for shooting"....can you say "predictable bullshiat"?

/love my metal
//especially the Scandinavian bands
///never had the urge to kill anyone
////do occasionally get the urge to burn a church
 
2007-11-07 08:22:50 AM
Oh man, I never would've picked Finland in the school shooting pool.
 
2007-11-07 08:23:25 AM
hudsucker proxy: drinking and the internets are pretty much all that's on outside of helsinki.

In that case, I can see the natural attraction to Fark.
 
2007-11-07 08:23:43 AM
Care to back that up, Hitler?

very tolerant. Thanks for playing.

/God Bless America and Support the Troops
 
2007-11-07 08:24:01 AM
Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Because the RELIGION of Peace has never killed anyone, while Atheists and Evolutionists have a grand total of 1, yeah, we're guilty.

www.mynetimages.com

/history called it would like a word with you
 
2007-11-07 08:24:53 AM
hudsucker proxy: Care to back that up, Hitler?

Christ, go look it it up yourself on the DOJ and FBI websites. I've defended that very argument successfully against college professors, because they were ignorant of the real numbers. Every single time I've done so on a website the asshat who wants proof has nothing to say about it, changes the subject, or calls me a racist for pointing out the truth.

Ignoring the problem because it's politically incorrect doesn't make it better.
 
2007-11-07 08:25:56 AM
Where was the metal band Mayhem from? They were hard core.


/Of course their music sucked, but they were hard core
 
2007-11-07 08:26:25 AM
nesler: That made me check out your profile. Promptly read this bit: hudsucker proxy

I saw that too. Pretty damn funny, my man. And true I might add.
 
2007-11-07 08:27:14 AM
Molavian:

Ignoring the problem because it's politically incorrect doesn't make it better.


Political correctness has made it impossible to even discuss many real problems.
 
2007-11-07 08:27:26 AM
It's a good thing this guy is dead, or he and czarangelus might have gotten together and discovered they have a lot in common.
 
2007-11-07 08:28:23 AM
No Such Agency: People WILL. My initial trolly comment here was (hopefully) obviously a joke, but you can bet that the usual religious asshats will be sincerely hollering about how "EEEEVIL DARWINIZM killed those Finns!!1!!1!!"

Yup, they will. I'm betting that O'Reilly et al and the usual religious spokespeople types in the media will be latching on to this shortly. Sad.

BTW I just farky'd you after reading your profile. Fellow academic and all :)
 
2007-11-07 08:28:27 AM
nesler: dittybopper: Blacks in the USA are ultra violent.

This'll end well.



I can back that up with numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control

Homicide rate (2004)
Non-hispanic White: 2.72 per 100,000
Non-hispanic Black: 21.68 per 100,000
Hispanic (All races): 7.90 per 100,000

Blacks comprise about 12 or 13% of the population, yet account for fully *HALF* of the homicides.

White America doesn't really have a homicide problem, black America does.

It doesn't have anything to do with access to firearms. Whites are much more likely to own guns in the US than blacks.

It obviously doesn't have anything to do with the color of your skin, either. Otherwise one could argue that non-Hispanic Asians are superior: Their homicide rate in the US is only 2.49 per 100,000.

But you see, what is happening is that people from different subcultures in the US have different homicide rates, yet in theory they all have equal access to homicide instrumentality. That suggests that cultural factors have a much higher influence on homicide rates than anything else.
 
2007-11-07 08:29:02 AM
I'm fascinated by this. A lot of what he wrote is a total echo of Eric Harris' diary. What is it that causes such a socioapathy combined with this massive farking ego. The fact that his Youtube has BTK stuff on it only proves just how ego-driven this kid is. BTK would just stroll into people's homes and be like "Yeah, I have this thing where I have to tie you up, have sex with you, and kill you. Sorry about that."

Did they get him alive? I hope so, these people are absolutely fascinating.
 
2007-11-07 08:29:07 AM
Man On Pink Corner: It's a good thing this guy is dead, or he and czarangelus might have gotten together and discovered they have a lot in common.

Why are you guys always hating on czarangelus?
 
2007-11-07 08:29:16 AM
hudsucker proxy:

Care to back that up, Hitler?


See my post directly above, douchebag.
 
2007-11-07 08:30:04 AM
Don't worry guys, I'll give him a traditional Finnish shamanic curse:

Nouse nyt luonto lovesta
Haltija havon alta
Havon alta hattu piässä
Kiven alta kinnas käessä
Vihollista viskuessa
Katehi kuatuessa
Nouse luonto loukostasi
Haltija havon altasi

There. Much better.
 
2007-11-07 08:30:21 AM
i36.photobucket.com

Wow, the WGA strike doesn't only affect America. See what happens when they can't get their Conan?
 
2007-11-07 08:31:05 AM
nesler: hudsucker proxy: Well, from what I know, drinking and the internets are pretty much all that's on outside of helsinki.

That made me check out your profile. Promptly read this bit:

"Also, the American bell curve of intelligence is probably shaped a tad different from the one here in Europe. If an American is smart, he's pretty damn smart, if he's ignorant, god bless him, he's one ignorant, ignorant man..."

I laughed my ass off. Thank you, good sir...btw, what state in the US did you live in?


Cheers...

I lived in Massachusetts. Lovely people.
 
2007-11-07 08:31:15 AM
No Such Agency: Onkel Buck:
Kinda took the power away from the media in that rant. How are they going to point fingers ask why and how, now? I think they will have to blame Darwin, based on the "natural selection" reference.

People WILL. My initial trolly comment here was (hopefully) obviously a joke, but you can bet that the usual religious asshats will be sincerely hollering about how "EEEEVIL DARWINIZM killed those Finns!!1!!1!!"


Of course dude, you gotta blame somebody, right after the gun manufacturers. Always remember this...
i26.photobucket.com
I was just saying that since he pre-empted the template the media use for blame, they are going to be scrambling for something or just edit that part of his rant, so they can bring in experts to tell us what we already knew, the kid was batshiat crazy!
 
2007-11-07 08:31:15 AM
Man On Pink Corner: It's a good thing this guy is dead, or he and czarangelus might have gotten together and discovered they have a lot in common.

No, this guy didn't just talk about taking to the streets and changing by force that which he thought needed changing....and he probably had a job after school.
 
2007-11-07 08:31:26 AM
at80eighty: finnish them!

I came here to say that...

*goes back to the shadows*
 
2007-11-07 08:31:54 AM
dittybopper:

You do realize it is partly because there was and still is so much racism against blacks, and blacks feel they are backed into a corner. What happens when an animal is backed into a corner?

Not really defending them completely... but it isn't just because black people are more violent, they were just put into a situation that would make any group of people violent.
 
2007-11-07 08:32:00 AM
dittybopper: rifled shotgun)

?
 
2007-11-07 08:32:27 AM
RedMosquito: I didn't know we had so many Finnish Farkers.

Hei!


Some of us lurk now more than post... Not that I've ever been on of the most active posters even in TF. I spend most of my time "elsewhere" now.

Back on topic: The shooter was caught, but not killed.
 
2007-11-07 08:33:17 AM
They're just pining for the fjords.
 
2007-11-07 08:34:30 AM
Some revolutionary. He declares war on what he perceives to be a corrupt and weak minded society by shooting up a school. To bad Darwin didn't get to him first.
 
2007-11-07 08:35:19 AM
Well judging by the nature of his posted philosophical rants... it's safe to say czarangelus finally snapped.

Too bad he had to take other people down first.
 
2007-11-07 08:35:45 AM
Lumoclear:
Well, I am sure that the media will make comparisons between those two and then with the Columbine tardwads.

Considereing he's apparently a fan of Harris and Klebold, that wouldn't be completely unreasonable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8jXtsQbv18
 
2007-11-07 08:36:06 AM
RandomExcess: Care to back that up, Hitler?

very tolerant. Thanks for playing.

/God Bless America and Support the Troops


Either you sarcasmometer is on the blink or mine is.


dittybopper: hudsucker proxy:

Care to back that up, Hitler?

See my post directly above, douchebag.


With you, I'm pretty sure it's your sarcasmometer is on the blink.

Douchenozzle.
 
2007-11-07 08:36:35 AM
Here's a vihttp://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3187671#b
Underlinedeo of him in target practice, he was a pretty good shot.

http://koti.phnet.fi/pres/a/jokela/Shooting.wmv

How you like them apples
 
2007-11-07 08:36:49 AM
By they way, they got him alive.
 
2007-11-07 08:37:20 AM
Nice to see American values seeping over there.
 
2007-11-07 08:37:29 AM
Winterstar
at80eigthy
me


re: Mortal Kombat references

hive mind. We're a sad generation when the first things that come to our minds is that deep growling Mortal Kombat voice congratulating senseless murders.

HAH HAH HAH HAHHHHH

BRUUTALITYYY

/not really
 
2007-11-07 08:37:36 AM
DubhGrian: Not really defending them completely... but it isn't just because black people are more violent, they were just put into a situation that would make any group of people violent.

Citation?
 
2007-11-07 08:39:19 AM
Whoopty Whoo The Precious Bongo Boy: Nice to see American values seeping over there.

How do you know we didn't just steal Finnish values and those values are now seeping back over there?
 
2007-11-07 08:39:21 AM
hudsucker proxy: With you, I'm pretty sure it's your sarcasmometer is on the blink.

Douchenozzle.


Mine certainly is.

Douche...box?
 
2007-11-07 08:39:41 AM
juliaemma: They have guns in Finland? Who knew.

Didn't mean any disrespect, it's just not a common thing to hear about a Finnish school shooting in the media. I'm sure there are lots of guns in Finland. I would hate to face a rampaging herd of reindeer without adequate firepower.
 
2007-11-07 08:40:20 AM
nopokerface: Molavian:

Ignoring the problem because it's politically incorrect doesn't make it better.

Political correctness has made it impossible to even discuss many real problems.



Absolutely true. I've argued until I'm blue in the fingers that violence, and particularly gun violence, in the US is pretty much restricted in large part to young urban black males (Black males between the ages of 16 and 30 have a rate of 91.94 per 100,000!).

Another little chestnut: Women in general, and especially white women, have little to fear. White women have a homicide rate of 1.83 per 100,000, whereas white males have a rate of 3.64 per 100,000. As a whole, the rate for women (including blacks and hispanics) is only 2.53 per 100,000. So, despite what you might see on Lifetime, women in this country are generally safer than men, at least when it comes to homicides.
 
2007-11-07 08:41:01 AM
Whoopty Whoo The Precious Bongo Boy: Nice to see American values seeping over there.

You know, as a fan, I have to say that this would be an +8 troll if you switched to a different username. Your fame precedes you.
 
2007-11-07 08:41:06 AM
Hmm, Iltasanomat raports now that the shooter is dead.
 
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