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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   UPS sues to stop unwanted 'pop-up' ads on websites   ( divider line
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2002-10-02 08:54:51 AM  
Thank Gawd!
Webmasters, follow suit.
2002-10-02 09:08:12 AM  

#$!#@%@!#%$@% GATOR! I hate that stinkin' pop-up cr@p. This is one reason installs take 10 minutes for me:

Gator's Web site claims its ads are legal and only reach customers who agreed to accept ads in exchange for free software.
You can't hit a button without reading the five pages worth of legalese.
2002-10-02 10:48:19 AM  
2002-10-02 12:25:41 PM  
Way to go UPS. Now if you could just find a way to get my packages here without drop-kicking them.
2002-10-02 12:49:57 PM  
only liberal pinko commie bastards whine about their competition advertising too much
2002-10-02 12:51:17 PM  
"Big Brown popups are a no-no. Film at 11."
2002-10-02 12:53:45 PM  
One of many to follow= Gator sux.
2002-10-02 12:54:28 PM  
If people are getting confused because they're seeing ads via Gator when they go to a certain site, maybe they should remove Gator. Or stop using computers. Or get their attendants to wipe their drool.
2002-10-02 12:55:35 PM  
It seems to me that there should be some kind of software which could block the evil gator spam. They seem to be the only pop-ups which work consistantly on my Mozilla browser.

Another thought- is there any legal fund devoted to stopping spam and pop-up/pop-unders? I would happily contribute a few bucks to undermine the onslaught.
2002-10-02 12:56:20 PM  
Gator rules, they send me spam mail and stuff...
2002-10-02 12:56:48 PM  
Vetbridge: Remember the first law of shipping. If you can throw it, do.

The secret is make sure all your packages are too heavy to throw.

I hope they throw the book at those Gator guys. They know damn well what tricks they're playing, they just won't admit it.
2002-10-02 12:57:37 PM  
You goin' down Gator biatch.
2002-10-02 12:58:10 PM  
Yeeeaah! I farking hate pop up ads. Every time my boss comes into the office and i try to close my web browser window before she sees it, a farking pop up ad is beaming at her! Down with the pop ups!
2002-10-02 12:59:54 PM  
Get AdShield. Works fine, lasts a long time.
2002-10-02 12:59:55 PM  
I hear Gator tastes like chicken.
2002-10-02 01:00:47 PM  
IrieTom It's called AdAware. It will find it and remove it along with many other spyware programs.
2002-10-02 01:02:18 PM  
IrieTom - I think you're on to something. Maybe stopping spam could become Fark's next project after saving Farscape. We could have Drew run for political office or something.

Or we could look at boobies. Motivation only comes in short spurts, I guess.
2002-10-02 01:02:23 PM  
Lanterne_Rouge If it is too heavy to throw, it can still be dropped. If you are sending something and you don't feel comfortable dropping it 6 feet onto a cement floor, it's not packed well enough. It will be thusly dropped many times in transit.

If I could take a hit out on a corporation, Gator might very well be my first target.
2002-10-02 01:02:50 PM  
ok sure i hate pop ups as much as the next guy, but if they are helping to keep websites free why be this opposed to them.

its not that hard to alt-F4 the damn thing, if a company is dumb enough to pay someone to make you do that before seeing their site, then good for them.

if pop ups go away websites will have to go find alternate forms of funding, which means many will switch over to subscription services, and i sure as hell don't want that

so in short, quit your biatching!
2002-10-02 01:03:42 PM  
Dcho: I think that most people don't ever realize they have Gator installed. It slips in as quietly as possible.

IrieTom: If you're getting popups because of Gator, I recommend you install and run Adaware to make sure it's not installed.

Gator is an evil parasite.
2002-10-02 01:03:44 PM  
Theres nothing illegal in what Gator does. It's annoying and sneaky, but legal.

I wish there was a law that stated that spam/ad policies must be clear and on the same page as the 'I agree' button(not buried 3 pages down in small print in a user agreement) if junk email will be sent or if unwanted control over webpages is used.

Also, they should make it a law that software needs to have an easy way to be removed compleatly off your computer. Try uninstalling gator.
2002-10-02 01:05:33 PM  
Oh please God - make it so...

2002-10-02 01:06:06 PM  
Gator is more than just popups. It will replace ads on a website with it's own ads. So in UPS's case, they had ads for FedEx on their website.
I'm sure a clever lawyer could construe that to be illegal.
2002-10-02 01:06:56 PM  
Backgroundnoise: only liberal pinko commie bastards whine about their competition advertising too much

Well said! I wonder how many of the libertarian farkers truely walk the walk and talk the talk as you do?
2002-10-02 01:07:40 PM  
Gator sucks.
2002-10-02 01:07:49 PM  
oh please please let gator go away. I've yet to install it but people are constantly bugging me wanting to know why they're gettnig so many pop ups.
2002-10-02 01:09:09 PM  
Pop-up stopper @ eliminates most of these pesky critters.
2002-10-02 01:09:22 PM  
Or we could look at boobies. Motivation only comes in short spurts, I guess.

Why is it that I always seem to see things in the most sexual light possible?
2002-10-02 01:09:44 PM  
if pop ups go away websites will have to go find alternate forms of funding, which means many will switch over to subscription services, and i sure as hell don't want that

There are pleanty of effective non-intrusive forms of advertising out there. Pop-ups are only effective on a:) new Internet users who havn't been annoyed yet or b:) people who click on them because they want to 'support' a website.

Once advertisers remember that an add can be effective simply by being viewed, I think we'll be in better shape.
2002-10-02 01:09:47 PM  
Vetbridge: that brings to mind the orginal Ace Ventura movie with Ace bootin' around the package at the beginning of the movie.

Its about time someone grabbed these people by the nut sack. I recently read somewhere that was the most visited sit on the internet one month. No friggin wonder, their ad pops up on every second page that I go to.

Way to go UPS. Mail 'em.
2002-10-02 01:09:50 PM  
Aahhh yeaahhh home boyeeeezz!

Once Gator is gone, we need to find whoever is sending me 500 messages/day for:

-FREE! 30-DAY Herbal Viagra!
-LookSir-Droids! is pre-selected for CapitolOne Visa 0%
-Kyleen, here are my pixxx please delete
-RE: Your Mortgage Debt
-Terry, Did your girlfriend come?

A recent article in Newsweek said *something* like, "...only about 180 people worldwide are responsible for 90% of spam"

When we find these people, we should lock them in a room and make them watch infomercials for the rest of their lives.
2002-10-02 01:09:53 PM  
Big brown poopups are a big no-no.
2002-10-02 01:09:55 PM  
Seems to me, those who aren't paying enough attention to avoid installing Gator pretty much deserve the annoyance. If you really want that CometCursor, or you think it's important to have the weather displayed on your toolbar, well, the ads are the price you pay.

Don't click on I Agree unless you do. Sure, you may have to read some stuff, but it is, after all, a contract, which you should read no matter what it's for.
2002-10-02 01:10:48 PM  
Gator always would apper on my computer without me having installed it. When you uninstall it, they send you to a comment board to get their free marketing research on why you're uninstalling Gator and where you got it. I always enjoyed leaving comments (with a fake email address so they can't sell me to spam companies) calling them parasites, and equating their program to a virus, and comparing them to Satan. So now they thwarted me by making GAIN, which you can't uninstall, except manually, so I don't get to go to their comment-send thing anymore.

Sorry for the long post. Just saying that Gator is pure evil, and I want a piece of that lawsuit action. AdAware is pretty darn useful, except that, if you aren't careful, it disables Kazaa, which won't run if it can't use its precious spyware.

Actually, it tastes like a cross between fish and chicken.
Texture and flavorwise.
2002-10-02 01:13:29 PM  
Gator, we'll miss you.

2002-10-02 01:14:14 PM  
Yeah, probably a lot of the users were just the inexperienced/impatient/apathetic type, but Gator and GAIN really do go a long way to make sure you don't get a choice in installing it.
2002-10-02 01:14:35 PM  
I guess we'll see if the judge agrees there's nothing illegal in what Gator does. It does nothing to keep web sites free. The ads it displays don't generate any revenue for the site you're visiting at the time.

It may indeed be perfectly legal, but I'm sure the company behind it knows they're being dishonest by burying the important stuff way down in the agreement, trying to trick people into installing it, etc.

The people running companies like this have a remarkable ability to believe that if something makes money and is currently legal, it must be okay to do it. I guess I just disagree with them about that.
2002-10-02 01:16:05 PM  
Clears throat....Pop-up stopper at eliminates most of these pesky critters.
2002-10-02 01:16:30 PM  
Oh how I will miss those "hey, wanna install some software" popups....I will miss the joy of clicking on the buttong that reads, "FARK NO!!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!"
2002-10-02 01:17:34 PM  
Ahem. I have an idea. Why doesn't everyone on FARK spam Gator?

The Gator Corporation
2000 Bridge Parkway, Suite 100
Redwood City, CA 94065
Tel: 650-232-0300
Fax: 650-232-0400
Email: info[nospam-﹫-backwards]n­oitaro­pro­c­r­o­tag­*com

I'm talking E-mail, regular mail, phone calls, faxes, drive-by eggings if you live in the vicinity.

It's just an idea.
2002-10-02 01:18:24 PM  
I agree, the "Do you want to install..." window they pop up is shady. Very clever, but shady. I had to *gasp* read the window before I clicked OK. When I saw what it was, I said No, and 4000 times later, here I am today, still Gator free.

Interestingly, if you visit their site, there are no tricks, and there's only one button you click to download it.
2002-10-02 01:22:02 PM  
HomerSamson113: If you want to fight fire with fire, I think the appropriate plan would be as follows:

Offer to work as a personal assistant to a Gator employee, for free. Then follow him around all day, and whenever he walks in front of certain stores, hold up an ad for a competing store in his face and shout about the great sale they have on there. When he tries to read a newspaper, keep holding up some other ads in front of it. Accept money from advertisers for this "service".

Not that I'm suggesting anyone should do this, it's just an analogy. <g>
2002-10-02 01:22:19 PM  
The Gator Corporation advertising programs can generate click-through rates 20 to 100 times higher than traditional banner ads, because through GAIN, advertisers can reach consumers anywhere on the Web, at exactly the right time in their buying cycle. And with over 25 million users and growing, The Gator Corporation can deliver messages through GAIN to consumers - even when consumers are viewing competitive sites.

From the GAIN website (my emphasis).

2002-10-02 01:25:45 PM  

That sounds like a dare. If I lived anywhere close to there, I might have taken you up on that challenge.

2002-10-02 01:26:09 PM  
Screw Kazaa. WinMX is where it's at.
2002-10-02 01:31:04 PM  
EvanTH- For educational purposes only, you could consider searching for "Kazaa Lite"... it's adware/spyware free.

* * *
I like HomerSamson's idea... perhaps it's time for Gator to get a little DoS. It's poetic justice, considering my "service" gets denied when I'm trying to read news, video game FAQs, etc.
2002-10-02 01:37:31 PM  
It's about time those farkers were sued. I hate Gator... bastards!!
2002-10-02 01:37:42 PM  
Gator's Web site claims its ads are legal and only reach customers who agreed to accept ads in exchange for free software.

Because suckering people with a lengthy morass of inane legal stipulations deliberately hiding your intended consequences follows the spirit of "agreeing"
2002-10-02 01:42:05 PM  
Some of you folks just don't get it. Suppressing op ups is not the issue. Hijacking ads and replacing them is!

Just like Kazaa is hijacking payments. See /. article here

They are internet pick pockets and we should treat them like our Muslim bro and chop their hands off.
2002-10-02 01:46:37 PM  
I don't hate popups - my popup stopping program fixes those, but I hate those flash ones that pop up and won't get off your screen, no matter how much you scroll, until you click the close button. Those things annoying the ever loving piss out of me.
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