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(Entertainment Weekly)   It's been nearly two years since "Brokeback Mountain" and no major studio has greenlit a single gay film since. And no, "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry" doesn't count   (ew.com) divider line 74
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2007-10-25 11:39:56 AM
Obviously they have their finger on the wrong pulse of the wrong film industry.
 
2007-10-25 11:43:07 AM
Where have you been, subby? Most of the movies they put out these days are gay.
 
2007-10-25 11:48:06 AM
Not that there is anything wrong with that...
 
2007-10-25 11:51:46 AM
Wasn't Spiderman 3 released last summer?
 
2007-10-25 11:52:32 AM
It's all about maximizing profits, I'm sure they've done their homework on the matter.
 
2007-10-25 12:12:49 PM
Didn't we just find out that all the Harry Potter movies are gay?
 
2007-10-25 12:28:48 PM
It's understandable that you don't remember "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry."
 
2007-10-25 12:38:20 PM
Gay doesn't sell. No hard feelin
 
2007-10-25 12:59:24 PM
I guess those VHS tapes playing on the 20" tv in the corner of a dark room don't count as "major" releases.
 
2007-10-25 01:03:07 PM
When did the last harry potter movie come out?
 
2007-10-25 01:20:11 PM
i get my weekly recommended allowance of gay by watching sarah silverman and seeing brian posehn and that other fat guy swan it up all over the screen. less of them and more of sarah
 
OXO
2007-10-25 01:42:27 PM
All the gays were busy doing makeover shows on tv.
 
2007-10-25 03:14:57 PM
Just like those gays. Give them an inch...
 
2007-10-25 03:16:09 PM
I'm pretty sure Tyler Perry has a new movie out.
 
2007-10-25 03:16:50 PM
blades of glory? brokeback was funnier.

/huge will ferrell fan
//hoping semi-pro will redeem blades of feces
 
2007-10-25 03:31:38 PM
I'm pretty sure there was a Pirates of the Carribean movie put out since Brokeback Mountain.
 
2007-10-25 03:31:57 PM
Harry Potter 5 came out

/hehe, came out.
 
2007-10-25 03:33:11 PM
Not so much [INTERESTING] as [MERCIFUL].
 
2007-10-25 03:38:13 PM
If I had teh ghey, I'd be looking for a movie that didn't portray its gay main characters as selfish, adulterous assholes but apparently the gay community doesn't have a problem with the characters in Brokeback Mountain.
 
2007-10-25 03:38:34 PM
Nonsense.
Exhibit A:
www.vidfad.com
 
2007-10-25 03:45:30 PM
I'm pretty sure Tom Cruise is still making movies.
 
2007-10-25 03:45:38 PM
Mugato: If I had teh ghey, I'd be looking for a movie that didn't portray its gay main characters as selfish, adulterous assholes but apparently the gay community doesn't have a problem with the characters in Brokeback Mountain.

Apparently you've not seen a movie about adultery among breeders, i.e., er, all of them?

robhead: It's all about maximizing profits, I'm sure they've done their homework on the matter.

klymen: Gay doesn't sell. No hard feelin

$83M domestic for Brokeback Mountain.

Link (new window)
 
2007-10-25 03:46:21 PM
Maybe it's because nobody has been able to come up with a decent script where the central theme is someone's gayness. Being gay is not as much of a stigma as it used to be, so coming out with a movie about someone who's in the closet is now passee. Brokeback Mountain grabbed the last crumb of this by focusing the story on two guys that supposedly had the manliest job possible, and making them closet fudge packers.

Seriously, look at the latest "gay" movies and see what they are about. The only one that comes to mind is the one with Kevin Kline, where he is an *unknowing* closet gay guy, wow, big revelation. Not sure if you want to include Hillary Swank's "Boys Don't Cry" as a gay movie, but if you do, then this movie is an exception.

In fact, people, list any "gay" movie you can think of, and see when it was released, and what the central theme was. I think you'll find that gay movies are few and far between to begin with, and the plot is pretty well socially outdated.
 
2007-10-25 03:47:15 PM
robsul82: Apparently you've not seen a movie about adultery among breeders, i.e., er, all of them?

Yeah but most of those portray them as the cheating pricks that they are, not tragic victims.
 
2007-10-25 03:49:13 PM
Hmmm. What about:

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2007-10-25 03:50:56 PM
Mugato: robsul82: Apparently you've not seen a movie about adultery among breeders, i.e., er, all of them?

Yeah but most of those portray them as the cheating pricks that they are, not tragic victims.


I was unaware American Beauty, just to name one, showed Kevin Spacey as "the cheating prick that [he was]." Definitely a bit more tilted toward tragic victim, I'd say. There's many more tragic victims in straight movies about adultery than I think you'd care admit.
 
2007-10-25 03:52:18 PM
I still haven't seen Brokeback Mountain. Everyone told me it was really gay.

/not that there's anything wrong with that
 
2007-10-25 03:54:41 PM
DoomDoomDoom: I still haven't seen Brokeback Mountain. Everyone told me it was really gay.

/not that there's anything wrong with that


They were cowboys. How much more gay can you get.
 
2007-10-25 03:56:34 PM
robsul82: I was unaware American Beauty, just to name one, showed Kevin Spacey as "the cheating prick that [he was]." Definitely a bit more tilted toward tragic victim, I'd say. There's many more tragic victims in straight movies about adultery than I think you'd care admit.

Actually, Kevin Spacey wound up not having sex with Mena Suvari.

The point is that through the history of cinema, all full of heterosexual relationships, sure you can find several examples of, shall we say, justified adultery. But in the case of Brokeback Mountain, which apparently is the Citizen Kane of gay cinema, the protagonists are just douchebags, cheating on their decent, undeserving wives. If I smoked pole, I would object to that film being a characterization of my people.
 
2007-10-25 04:01:20 PM
Mugato

After reading here and the Henry V thread, I must say, I've enjoyed your comments today!

I'd agree that I wouldn't be put off by a gay romance *if* it wasn't really about people claiming to be be hetero and "realizing" that they are gay. And furthermore, I'd think that that would be the very last thing that gay people want...

Except that perhaps it fits their fantasy that all men really want dick.
 
2007-10-25 04:07:09 PM
The point is that we've had a serious gay movie about male homos. What about a serious gay movie that explores the issues of what happens when the girls from Charmed realize that they aren't blood relatives and Rose McGowan, Alyssa Milano and the other chick all go at it for 2 hours? Directed by Ang Lee of course.
 
2007-10-25 04:07:22 PM
klymen
Gay male doesn't sell. No hard feelin


FTFY
 
2007-10-25 04:08:33 PM
 
2007-10-25 04:11:26 PM
Maybe thats because they cant find a writer as good as McMurtry. Brokeback Mountain is one of the best movies I have ever seen. It would fit perfectly on a list of the best movies of the 70's such as Easy Rider, Network, Harold and Maude and The Last Picture Show.
You cant make a movie great just by putting a couple of faggy characters in it. If that was true then Top Gun would be the greatest movie of all time.
 
2007-10-25 04:11:44 PM
Mugato: serious gay movie about male homos. What about a serious gay movie that explores the issues of what happens when the girls from Charmed realize that they aren't blood relatives and Rose McGowan, Alyssa Milano and the other chick all go at it for 2 hours? Directed by Ang Lee of course.

Hrm, not to be a troll or anything... but if they're not reproducing (and obviously they wouldn't be) what would it matter if they were related or not?

Ah, but that's probably a topic for a different thread...
 
2007-10-25 04:12:20 PM
Mugato: robsul82: I was unaware American Beauty, just to name one, showed Kevin Spacey as "the cheating prick that [he was]." Definitely a bit more tilted toward tragic victim, I'd say. There's many more tragic victims in straight movies about adultery than I think you'd care admit.

Actually, Kevin Spacey wound up not having sex with Mena Suvari.

The point is that through the history of cinema, all full of heterosexual relationships, sure you can find several examples of, shall we say, justified adultery. But in the case of Brokeback Mountain, which apparently is the Citizen Kane of gay cinema, the protagonists are just douchebags, cheating on their decent, undeserving wives. If I smoked pole, I would object to that film being a characterization of my people.


So it's OK that he spent the movie lusting for an underaged cheerleader, if the makers of the film wussed out and went against what was originally scripted? I don't think so.

You seem to think Brokeback Mountain DIDN'T acknowledge and point out that Jack and Ennis WERE being rotten to their wives. Did you not catch that while nudging your buddies in the ribs and making your jokes about smoking pole? Just like Straight Movie X isn't "a characterization of all [straight] people," Gay Movie Y isn't "a characterization of all [gay] people."
 
2007-10-25 04:17:38 PM
It's been nearly 19 years since UHF and Hollywood has not greenlit a single Weird Al film since.
 
2007-10-25 04:19:31 PM
I guess none of you guys saw (Not) Another Gay Movie then. It's hilarious, by the way, but don't watch it on an airplane, like I did. (Comedy gold--why are dildos more hilarious when a grandma might see them on your laptop screen?) It's NC-17.
 
2007-10-25 04:21:10 PM
Mugato: If I had teh ghey, I'd be looking for a movie that didn't portray its gay main characters as selfish, adulterous assholes but apparently the gay community doesn't have a problem with the characters in Brokeback Mountain.

Well, speaking for the entire gay community, Brokeback was...well, okay. Beautiful cinematography. Great soundtrack. And laughable (I *still* look at my beloved and quickly spit into my hand) to a point. But give me a move without AIDS, gay bashing, or the like and I'd be happy. Then again, that would be kinda boring...

When's the next John Travolta movie coming out?
 
2007-10-25 04:25:46 PM
As a gay cinemaphile, I spit on 'Chuck & Larry'.

And not a light loogie either. I'm talking a full on, morning-breath laden hock of semi-solid phlegm matter.
 
2007-10-25 04:27:06 PM
Gay movie without AIDs or gay bashing = Adam and Steve. It won't win an Oscar, the comedy was broad and low-brow, and that is fine by me.
 
2007-10-25 04:32:16 PM
I was unaware American Beauty, just to name one, showed Kevin Spacey as "the cheating prick that [he was]."

That's interesting as other than for short moment when he chose not to cheat after being presented the oppotunity, I don't remember him cheating in that movie? Are we talking thought crimes?

His wife on the other hand was a cheating b*tch in the movie.

Maybe we didn't see the same movie?
 
2007-10-25 04:36:58 PM
And no, "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry" doesn't count. Might not have been gay, but there was an awful lot of sucking going on onscreen.
 
2007-10-25 04:38:34 PM
srhp29: I was unaware American Beauty, just to name one, showed Kevin Spacey as "the cheating prick that [he was]."

That's interesting as other than for short moment when he chose not to cheat after being presented the oppotunity, I don't remember him cheating in that movie? Are we talking thought crimes?

His wife on the other hand was a cheating b*tch in the movie.

Maybe we didn't see the same movie?


Not everyone thinks cheating is limited to the physical, Orwell. He gets points because the cheerleader just HAPPENED to say something to him? Fark that. He was going to until something completely out of his control (Angela saying "this is my first time") happened. Good as if he did.
 
2007-10-25 04:39:52 PM
Mugato: If I had teh ghey, I'd be looking for a movie that didn't portray its gay main characters as selfish, adulterous assholes but apparently the gay community doesn't have a problem with the characters in Brokeback Mountain.

Ummm, I had a problem with the whole train wreck of a film.
 
2007-10-25 04:40:17 PM
It's more that that film seemed to signal the end of the 'Gay' movie as a genre. Time for the 'gay superhero action flick' and the 'gay murder mystery' and the 'gay romantic comedy' and the 'gay anything else that isn't just about being gay' movie.

Please?
 
2007-10-25 04:45:08 PM
Actually, I really liked Brokeback Mountain. I have never seen any movie that accurately depicted rural life, much less being gay in the country.

As for them being 'pricks' for cheating, the movie shows how homophobia hurts several people. Not only do closeted gay people suffer, but also their wives or husbands suffer.

The movie was about two gay men growing up in the 1970s in Wyoming (a state that didn't have gay bars 30 years ago and still doesn't today, the state in which Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered, etc.). It is unrealistic to believe that two average gay men in that decade, in that environment, would not succumb to the pressure to have relationships with women.
 
2007-10-25 04:53:44 PM
Have not seen it, but I understand they used Gram Parsons & Emmylou Harris singing Love Hurts. I love that song, so I will not see it or every time I hear it I'll think of butsecks.
 
2007-10-25 04:55:11 PM
Mugato
If I had teh ghey, I'd be looking for a movie that didn't portray its gay main characters as selfish, adulterous assholes but apparently the gay community doesn't have a problem with the characters in Brokeback Mountain.

Actually, I didn't care for the movie. (Disclaimer: I can't speak for the entire gay community) But I actually hated it for far more shallow reasons...I just thought it was boring.
 
2007-10-25 05:08:17 PM
Wrong, wrong, wrong. The article is wrong, the article linked by TTIUWOP is wrong, and robhead is completely right in saying It's all about maximizing profits, I'm sure they've done their homework on the matter.

TV and Hollywood are different because they are different businesses, with different business models. TV shows exist to bring in viewers for the commercials. If the advertisers are buying the commercial time, then the show is doing well.

Hollywood makes money by spending enormous amounts up front on production, distribution, and advertising, in the interest of bringing in huge amounts from the cinema, the video release, merchandising, TV sales, and sometimes soundtracks.

All filmmakers want to put as many bums on seats as possible. In Hollywood, that is the exaxct purpose films are made for.

Which means that Hollywood producers will look at current and recent huge successes, and make films that resemble them in order to duplicate their success.

Top 2005 films and box office receipts:

Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith : $380,270,577
The Chronicles of Narnia - $291,710,957
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - $290,013,036
War of the Worlds - $234,280,354
King Kong - $218,080,025
Wedding Crashers - $209,255,921
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - $206,459,076
Batman Begins - $206,459,076
Madagascar - $193,595,521
...
12 more films
...
Brokeback Mountain - $83,043,761

So what message does this send to Hollywood producers? It says that fantasy films with big special effects and computer animation make a lot more money than gay cowboy films. If Brokeback Mountain pulled in $300 million, then Hollywood would be filled with gay cowboys.
 
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