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F42
2007-10-19 03:02:38 PM  
It's not a boy surplus it's a soldier crop. Meat for the grinder.

More crime? They just need discipline...
 
2007-10-19 03:02:45 PM  
gunga galunga: You're a loser for not knowing that.

/irony


No he has a life for not knowing that.

/some folks like the outside world
 
2007-10-19 03:04:09 PM  
The Pho King: My theory is that they do it to piss off their parents. Nothing says "FU dad" like bringing home a white guy. Except for bringing home a black guy.

That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.
 
2007-10-19 03:06:04 PM  
kc987654:This Korean girl I knew had her parent's prefs nailed down

Korean
White
Chinese
Anything else
Black and Japanese tied at the bottom


Huh. For all the Vietnamese families I knew it went

Vietnamese
Chinese, Japanese, Korean (they all look the same)
Filipino
Anyone with money
White
Black
Mexican (but by the time you got down this far, you were disowned)
 
2007-10-19 03:06:40 PM  
FireZs: That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.

are you under some kind of odd spell; you see that what works for men is not the same as what works for women.

Two sets of rules, Sheesh.
/the more you know
 
2007-10-19 03:06:58 PM  
FireZs: The Pho King: My theory is that they do it to piss off their parents. Nothing says "FU dad" like bringing home a white guy. Except for bringing home a black guy.

That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.


Why would they do that when they could bring home black dudes instead? It gives a better effect.
 
2007-10-19 03:08:50 PM  
FireZs: That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.

No, white girls bring home black guys to piss off their dads. We were talking about this earlier in the thread...
 
2007-10-19 03:09:09 PM  
tortilla burger

Why would they do that when they could bring home black dudes instead? It gives a better effect.

This

Seriously if your white the ONLY kind of minority that could tick off daddy anywhere near as much as a Black dude is a Gang Banging Looking Mexican who speaks little to no english
 
2007-10-19 03:10:52 PM  
I'd take a surplus Chinese man, if they can find one who isn't egotistical, chauvinistic, and uptight.

\and he should have a good set of teeth, I'm not paying for reconstructive dental surgery
 
2007-10-19 03:10:58 PM  
tortilla burger: FireZs: The Pho King: My theory is that they do it to piss off their parents. Nothing says "FU dad" like bringing home a white guy. Except for bringing home a black guy.

That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.

Why would they do that when they could bring home black dudes instead? It gives a better effect.


Because black women have a hard enough time finding black men who aren't already in jail? It's a filtering effect. By the time you get to Asian women, the viable black male pool is basically exhausted.
 
2007-10-19 03:12:14 PM  
kc987654: Ok, perhaps not "pedophilia" as much as some (not all) asian men treat asian women like shiate, expecting them to wait on them hand and foot and be like their mothers were to their fathers. Even a fat tall round eye is better than that crap.

That's bullshiat. If anything it's white guys who have the stereotype that Asian women are more subservient.

The simple reason Asian women like white men is that to most Asians, white people are seen as just plain superior. That's why most white guys can get a much better Asian girl than they can a white girl. It's not that Asian women are better, just that in the pool of women who would want a white guy, chances are the Asian women would be of higher quality.
 
2007-10-19 03:12:45 PM  
kramers_hair: Actually the worst sex ratio in India (something like 750 girls for every 1,000 boys) is in the Punjab

img1.fark.comwww.davecullen.com
 
2007-10-19 03:13:40 PM  
Well, from a Darwinian perspective this might be a good thing for China, long term. Without enough females to go around there will be fierce competition among the males for breeding rights. Any male who is in any way inferior (weaker, dumber, uglier, less assertive, etc.) will fail to land a female, and will be unable to perpetuate his sub-par genes. Eventually China will breed an Asian master race.
 
2007-10-19 03:14:30 PM  
FireZs: The simple reason Asian women like white men is that to most Asians, white people are seen as just plain superior. That's why most white guys can get a much better Asian girl than they can a white girl. It's not that Asian women are better, just that in the pool of women who would want a white guy, chances are the Asian women would be of higher quality.

The Asian families that live in the US are generally not opposed to having their little snowflake bring home a white guy because they know how beautiful their children will be.
 
2007-10-19 03:15:01 PM  
FireZs

I don't think an Asian woman in ASIA will be treated as subserviant by a white guy from the western world as she would be by an Asian dude in Asia

/Asian's in the states is a different persuasion
 
2007-10-19 03:16:08 PM  
tortilla burger: karasoth: Its no longer 1 child. under certain restrictions you can get 2

I believe people who have degrees in higher education can have 2 without being taxed into the ground. I don't know all the rules though.


you have to pay alot of money for a second. more than 100,000 yuan or something.
 
2007-10-19 03:16:17 PM  
The Pho King: FireZs: That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.

No, white girls bring home black guys to piss off their dads. We were talking about this earlier in the thread...


So for an Asian girl, why settle for a white guy to bring home when you can bring home a black guy for greater effect? Why is it that Asian girls can bring home white guys or black guys home to piss off daddy, with black guys having a greater effect, but usually only bring home white guys?

Face it, Asian girls are attracted to white guys with or without daddy issues, as much as white girls are unattracted to Asian guys.
 
2007-10-19 03:17:03 PM  
FireZs
The Pho King:
My theory is that they do it to piss off their parents. Nothing says "FU dad" like bringing home a white guy. Except for bringing home a black guy.

That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.


White girls aren't usually trying to piss off daddy as much as asian girls, because white fathers don't act disappointed in you for being a girl and then remind you of that disappointment every day of your entire life.

/dating an asian girl
//boy did her parents F her up good
///three hugs since she hit puberty - graduation high school, college & law school
 
2007-10-19 03:17:34 PM  
tortilla burger: FireZs: The simple reason Asian women like white men is that to most Asians, white people are seen as just plain superior. That's why most white guys can get a much better Asian girl than they can a white girl. It's not that Asian women are better, just that in the pool of women who would want a white guy, chances are the Asian women would be of higher quality.

The Asian families that live in the US are generally not opposed to having their little snowflake bring home a white guy because they know how beautiful their children will be.


Nah, that's not it. It's social climbing. As I said, "white is better."
 
2007-10-19 03:20:53 PM  
karasoth: FireZs

I don't think an Asian woman in ASIA will be treated as subserviant by a white guy from the western world as she would be by an Asian dude in Asia

/Asian's in the states is a different persuasion


Not really anymore, especially for this generation. It's just an excuse commonly used by Asian women who prefer white guys. Truth is Asian guys aren't any more chauvinistic than white guys. But white guys are more attractive to those Asian women, so that aspect of them is overlooked.
 
2007-10-19 03:20:57 PM  
BackAssward: This is the problem with the government trying to force people to only have one child. The father (in his conservative values) wants a boy to carry on his name/genes (I say genes because, hell, if he had a girl it could just marry a boy of the same last name). So girls are either murdered so they can have a boy (what values the desire to pass your legacy on is), or given up to foreign adoption/orphanages.

It's not genes. In a population which has an overabundance of males, the best bet for your genes is to have a daugther (and vice versa if there's a surplus of females). If there are 150mm boys and 100mm girls born, and that generation in turn goes on to have a total of 200mm children, the average male will have 1.3 children, compared to 2.0 for the average female.

This sort of thing is why the number of males and females in each generation tends to be approximately equal. It's to your genetic advantage to have children belonging to the minority sex, if such a minority sex exists.

So it's not concern for one's genes. It's purely cultural chauvinism.
 
2007-10-19 03:21:10 PM  
Sparklee: Guys like asian women because our small hands make their dicks look so much bigger.

You know... That explains a lot of my high school dating experiences!

/// Not asian, but really short.
//With tiny hands
/// Tall guys for the WIN!
 
2007-10-19 03:22:30 PM  
Egalitarian: I'd take a surplus Chinese man, if they can find one who isn't egotistical, chauvinistic, and uptight.

\and he should have a good set of teeth, I'm not paying for reconstructive dental surgery


hi, I'm Weasel nice to meet you. I'm neither egotistical nor chauvinistic nor uptight. Plus I've had braces.

/ kindof a nerd tho
 
2007-10-19 03:23:23 PM  
Dr._Love: FireZs
The Pho King: My theory is that they do it to piss off their parents. Nothing says "FU dad" like bringing home a white guy. Except for bringing home a black guy.

That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.

White girls aren't usually trying to piss off daddy as much as asian girls, because white fathers don't act disappointed in you for being a girl and then remind you of that disappointment every day of your entire life.

/dating an asian girl
//boy did her parents F her up good
///three hugs since she hit puberty - graduation high school, college & law school


Well, as I said, a black guy would serve that purpose much more effectively. Clearly there must be a fundamental reason for attraction separate from the desire to get back at daddy.
 
2007-10-19 03:25:42 PM  
FireZs

I'd bet money if we could figure out a way to measure it that I can find more chauvinistic males in Japan of any age cohort then I could of white dudes in the US
 
2007-10-19 03:26:16 PM  
Egalitarian: I'd take a surplus Chinese man, if they can find one who isn't egotistical, chauvinistic, and uptight.

\and he should have a good set of teeth, I'm not paying for reconstructive dental surgery


Egalitarian: I'd take a surplus Chinese man, if they can find one who isn't egotistical, chauvinistic, and uptight.

\and he should have a good set of teeth, I'm not paying for reconstructive dental surgery


How YOU doin'? :)

/Has naturally good teeth
//Never needed braces or wisdom teeth removal
///Good genes 4tw
 
2007-10-19 03:26:54 PM  
FireZs: That's bullshiat. If anything it's white guys who have the stereotype that Asian women are more subservient.

I agree with you on this one. With all the interracial couples I've met, the tall white guy does all the talking while the Asian chick stands off to the side and never opens her mouth, except to ask the guy to repeat something that she didn't understand.
 
2007-10-19 03:29:15 PM  
Ghastly: Your only change to beat India is to have campers at all the spawn points and who wants to be a c4mp3r f4990t?

I don't play FFXI, do you?
 
2007-10-19 03:30:07 PM  
Why don't Black girls and Asian Men hook up.. It really would complete the circle.

I was reading the other day about how black girls are getting degree's and not being able to find black man that are up to their standards ( academically) .. so Asian dudes seem like a perfect fit.

/White guys dating Asian girls
//White girls dating Black dudes
///Black girls dating Asian guys
//// a couple generations... No more racism!
 
2007-10-19 03:31:19 PM  
FireZs: Why is it that Asian girls can bring home white guys or black guys home to piss off daddy, with black guys having a greater effect, but usually only bring home white guys?

A: The black guys won't fit into their Honda Accords
 
2007-10-19 03:31:40 PM  
The Pho King

but if they came from a traditionalistic asian household you can argue some of that is imprinting
 
F42
2007-10-19 03:32:31 PM  
tortilla burger:

img503.imageshack.us
 
2007-10-19 03:32:53 PM  
Fark_incense: //// a couple generations... No more racism!

I, for one, fully support mixed couples. It beautifies the world in more than one way.
 
2007-10-19 03:34:39 PM  
At least the Chinese are smart enough to pretty much ban organized religions. Let's hope the masses of excess men are used to fight wars against religious fanatics of all persuasions, be it carpet heads or bible thumpers.
 
2007-10-19 03:36:03 PM  
Bangkapi

ya DO know the PRC has its own Catholic church that they run
 
2007-10-19 03:39:19 PM  
karasoth: FireZs

I'd bet money if we could figure out a way to measure it that I can find more chauvinistic males in Japan of any age cohort then I could of white dudes in the US


Well, Japan isn't China, is it now?

The point is that when a white guy is with an Asian girl, there's an expectation that she will be more subservient than the white girls he's used to, whereas there's no such expectation from an Asian guy.

Come on, how many "make me a sammich" posts do you see here on a daily basis?
 
2007-10-19 03:44:01 PM  
FireZs

I picked Japan as an example. I could make the aruments about rural china (urban China it would be a 50/50 think if its more or less)

Japanese dudes are going to Korea because their women won't go in the kitchen and make them some "pie" (because I do not know a good cultural equivalent to this line I am stickin with pie)

but the "make me a sammich" line here is a joke... but when talking about countries that kill girl children and expect females to care for parents and children thats not a joke that is Chauvanism.

Now as I pointed out to someone else some of that is based on how norms of male behavior imprint from father to daughter.. so that may be why White Guys get the submissive asian womens
 
2007-10-19 03:51:16 PM  
karasoth: FireZs

I picked Japan as an example. I could make the aruments about rural china (urban China it would be a 50/50 think if its more or less)

Japanese dudes are going to Korea because their women won't go in the kitchen and make them some "pie" (because I do not know a good cultural equivalent to this line I am stickin with pie)

but the "make me a sammich" line here is a joke... but when talking about countries that kill girl children and expect females to care for parents and children thats not a joke that is Chauvanism.

Now as I pointed out to someone else some of that is based on how norms of male behavior imprint from father to daughter.. so that may be why White Guys get the submissive asian womens


Well, the imprinting thing would invalidate the whole "I don't want an Asian man because they want me to be submissive" argument, wouldn't it?

Fundie Christian white women are expected to be subservient too. It's not like Asians have a monopoly on Chauvinism. Chauvin isn't exactly an Asian name.

White American dudes are going to Asia/Latin America/Eastern Europe because their women won't go in the kitchen and make them some "pie" either.

The point is that it's a ridiculous argument to say you don't like Asian men and only want White men because "all Asian guys are chauvinists and all White guys aren't" since it's obviously not true. The real reason is that those Asian women simply think White is better.
 
2007-10-19 03:56:47 PM  
FireZs

well the Imprinting goes to behavior. and if the White male fits within his culture's pattern of Chauvinism but is down right enlightened compaired to her own cultural origins she will take the good with the bad

its a bit more complex.. thats what I am saying. Their is nothing wrong with Male Dominance over women (or female dominance over men if your into that thing) but all dominance games are not equal.

"traditional" Asian Chauvinism isn't like Standard (as of today) American Chauvinism, or traditionalist american Chauvinism.

In China and the US the Chauvinistic elements of the culture would correlate more to Socio Economic status (and female acceptance of the same) but if we look to Japan thats a different egg

/not sure about Korea or other asian societies
 
2007-10-19 03:56:49 PM  
FireZs: The Pho King: FireZs: That's bullshiat. If that were true white girls would be bringing home Asian guys to piss off their dads.

No, white girls bring home black guys to piss off their dads. We were talking about this earlier in the thread...

So for an Asian girl, why settle for a white guy to bring home when you can bring home a black guy for greater effect? Why is it that Asian girls can bring home white guys or black guys home to piss off daddy, with black guys having a greater effect, but usually only bring home white guys?

Face it, Asian girls are attracted to white guys with or without daddy issues, as much as white girls are unattracted to Asian guys.


Not entirely true....that depends on where you grew up. I think Filipino, Korean, and Polynesian dudes are hot---especially if they work out.

/No fatty rule is in effect
//went to a highschool that was at least 30% pinoy/other asian.
///whiter than 99% of the people in this thread.
/female
 
2007-10-19 03:59:32 PM  
homosexual man

kramers_hair: Actually the worst sex ratio in India (something like 750 girls for every 1,000 boys) is in the Punjab

[ironic]


I'm not sure I understand why this is ironic...
 
2007-10-19 03:59:34 PM  
Kygz: karasoth
Its no longer 1 child. under certain restrictions you can get 2

Yes, but you are taxed heavily for that other child.
You can have as many children as you want if you're rich enough.


Well, China must have become more capitalistic than I thought.
 
2007-10-19 04:04:17 PM  
atlanta_ufo: Yes, but you are taxed heavily for that other child.
You can have as many children as you want if you're rich enough.


I think it varies by province, but in some places you can have two if the first is a girl, as well.
 
2007-10-19 04:06:14 PM  
FireZs
The real reason is that those Asian women simply think White is better.

All the asian girls I know would totally do Yao. Mostly, it's height.

/Girls of every persuasion are shallow.
//So are guys, you understand, but I don't complain about them because I'm not trying to get into their pants.
///stuck-up whores
 
2007-10-19 04:06:31 PM  
is in the Punjab...[ironic]...I'm not sure I understand why this is ironic...

'Cuz they got jabbed in the pun?

/I don't get it either.
 
2007-10-19 04:07:26 PM  
fireclown: atlanta_ufo: Yes, but you are taxed heavily for that other child.
You can have as many children as you want if you're rich enough.

I think it varies by province, but in some places you can have two if the first is a girl, as well.


How did those two lines get assigned to me.
 
2007-10-19 04:10:03 PM  
Huh. For all the Vietnamese families I knew it went

Vietnamese
Chinese, Japanese, Korean (they all look the same)
Filipino
Anyone with money
White
Black
Mexican (but by the time you got down this far, you were disowned)

Hmmm, with Jews it goes
Jews,
Non Jew but have money and are white
Asians,
Disowned

Mostly because of the food.
 
2007-10-19 04:10:47 PM  
Dr._Love

thats a factor to

cause you know what they say about Tall Guys
 
2007-10-19 04:11:00 PM  
Dr._Love: FireZs
The real reason is that those Asian women simply think White is better.

All the asian girls I know would totally do Yao. Mostly, it's height.

/Girls of every persuasion are shallow.
//So are guys, you understand, but I don't complain about them because I'm not trying to get into their pants.
///stuck-up whores


Well, ok. The more accurate description is that being white and American gives you +x to your "status" attribute. Yao's height/fame/popularity/wealth/abilty just happens to override that factor.
 
2007-10-19 04:16:17 PM  
Bonzo_1116:
Not entirely true....that depends on where you grew up. I think Filipino, Korean, and Polynesian dudes are hot---especially if they work out.

/No fatty rule is in effect
//went to a highschool that was at least 30% pinoy/other asian.
///whiter than 99% of the people in this thread.
/female


Well, how YOU doin'? :)

Ok, well a lot of Asian guys like to biatch about the "dating inbalance." What I've found is that it's not that white girls don't like Asian guys, just that you get a certain amount of "minus points" for being Asian in the eyes of most white women. So it's just harder.
 
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