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(Boston Globe)   UMass offers Grateful Dead history class. Each class expected to sound just like the last one   (boston.com) divider line 72
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2007-10-19 08:49:55 AM  
...and go on three times as long as any sensible person thinks is necessary
 
2007-10-19 08:57:39 AM  
I knew it was my alma mater, the Amherst campus...

The grow patrouli stinking, dreadlock having, birkenstock wearing pseudo-hippies in the basement of Butterfield Hall, I believe.

Great school, though. I loved my time there.
 
2007-10-19 09:02:33 AM  
+1 subby!
 
2007-10-19 09:03:01 AM  
keylock71: The grow patrouli stinking, dreadlock having, birkenstock wearing pseudo-hippies in the basement of Butterfield Hall, I believe.

Speaking as an Engineering Alumni I can add is at least they won't be blockading my buildings.
 
2007-10-19 09:03:45 AM  
Sounds just like the Nickelback history class...
 
2007-10-19 09:09:57 AM  
Ok, I'm a fan of the dead, but that's a smart headline.
 
2007-10-19 09:12:43 AM  
EvilEgg

Always felt bad for the engineering students...som much work to accomplish in so little time.

I was a Communications major. Pretty much the exact opposite of that.

/Lived in Kennedy before the renovation in '93, moved to Thoreau for a semester, and then got the hell off campus and moved to Sunderland...or "Wonderland", as I liked to call it.
 
2007-10-19 09:18:49 AM  
BLASPHEMERS!
 
2007-10-19 09:19:56 AM  
It's not so much the class, it's the people selling the veggie burritos, dreamcatchers and hugs out in the hallway for three days before class starts, then trying to trade bootlegs of the lectures.
 
2007-10-19 09:22:40 AM  
Subby, Jerry salutes your cliche
img1.picturewizard.com
 
2007-10-19 09:23:34 AM  
Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's not so much the class, it's the people selling the veggie burritos, dreamcatchers and hugs out in the hallway for three days before class starts, then trying to trade bootlegs of the lectures.

They aren't so bad, but I don't care for the goo-balls made our of dried oats and wellbutrin. It's the shady folks wandering around selling ritalin and adderall that are a real danger to the "scene."
 
2007-10-19 10:55:13 AM  
Touché of grey, submitter.
 
2007-10-19 11:10:22 AM  
any pot smoking cliche PS's coming?
 
2007-10-19 11:13:58 AM  
Sooo.... there are a lot of jobs for GD majors outside of the lecture circuit then? Is the pay good? I'm willing to listen to total suck if it means a guaranteed cushy job and paycheck.

\Nickelback is going just a little too far though.
 
2007-10-19 11:19:03 AM  
keylock71

Hah. Butterfield's actually an freshman academic dorm now. I lived there for a year. I'm not much of a hippy hater, but there were some real "danker-than-thou" assholes in that dorm.
 
2007-10-19 11:28:53 AM  
Damn, dirty...hippies
 
2007-10-19 11:29:40 AM  
Hahahahaha, duuuuuuuuude!
 
2007-10-19 11:30:47 AM  
mofomisfit: keylock71

Hah. Butterfield's actually an freshman academic dorm now. I lived there for a year. I'm not much of a hippy hater, but there were some real "danker-than-thou" assholes in that dorm.


Yeah, I don't understand why the dirty hippies stay dirty. They do make organic cruelty-free no-phosphate soap and shampoo now...
 
2007-10-19 11:34:42 AM  
keylock71: I knew it was my alma mater, the Amherst campus...

The grow patrouli stinking, dreadlock having, birkenstock wearing pseudo-hippies in the basement of Butterfield Hall, I believe.

Great school, though. I loved my time there.


My sister went there. I just loved how she told me how many counts of rape that were reported each year. Some girl was gang raped just outside one of her buildings.

Oh yea, and Jerry Garcia was a piece of shiat shiat shiat. We're so grateful that he's dead dead dead.
 
2007-10-19 11:39:46 AM  
FrancoFile

Oh that's actually easy. The dirt has absolutely nothing to do with any ethical stance or morality, it's all about attracting cute chicks with dreadlocks to your room so you can get them high and mess around with them.
 
2007-10-19 11:44:43 AM  
HAHAHAHHA!!!!

Great subby.


The Grateful Dead were by far my single most disappointing moment in my lifelong musical exploration.
Back in 79-80 (I was 12-13) I became bitten by the music bug and I developed a vociferous appetite for music. I started with Hendrix and quickly to Zeppelin which led me to Sabbath. It became obvious I was really into the older and heavier bands. Pink Floyd really did it though. I now really liked the heavy and trippy weird stuff. All this time I kept hearing about this 60s band called "The Grateful Dead"

Wow!
What a weird and enigmatic name!
They are DEAD but they are GRATEFUL....woah!!!
And they had such cool as hell looking album covers too.
That freaky ass weird skeleton dude.

Anyway,I bought a couple of their records and as you can imagine my disappointment was profound.

I am now 39 years old and I still don't get it.
Listening to the Dead is like trying to eat plain un-flavored oatmeal. Wet cardboard with no taste.
I attempted to like them many times never could.
I do kinda like some moments on "Aoxoamoxa" (sorry if not spelled correct) and maybe some parts from "Blues for Allah" are ok.

I will state this--"Wake of the Flood" and "Working Man's Dead" are without a doubt the two most boring Goddamned records in rock history. I will listen to two hours of a dentist drill before I ever listen to those again.
 
2007-10-19 11:48:30 AM  
NikolaiFarkoff: Touché of grey, submitter.

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, sir.

Well played.
 
2007-10-19 11:52:40 AM  
I went through a jam band phase in college. Mostly Phish, but I listened to a little Grateful Dead. That phase didn't last long, though. And thank god.
 
2007-10-19 11:57:37 AM  
When colleges offer classes like this they should be burned down.
 
2007-10-19 12:02:16 PM  
.....actually,let me correct my above post.

"Terrapin Station" by the Grateful Dead is by far the most boring
album in rock history.

So boring I forgot about it for my above rant.
 
2007-10-19 12:03:48 PM  
Shun the non-believers.
 
2007-10-19 12:05:17 PM  

craigdamage


I became bitten by the music bug and I developed a vociferous appetite for music


I think you meant 'voracious'.
 
2007-10-19 12:13:55 PM  
craigdamage: I still don't get it ... I will state this--"Wake of the Flood" and "Working Man's Dead" are without a doubt the two most boring Goddamned records in rock history. I will listen to two hours of a dentist drill before I ever listen to those again.

You're doing it wrong!

There's a reason they toured non-stop for decades.
 
2007-10-19 12:21:57 PM  
Ridiculous. I like the Dead as much as anyone, but go to the fricken Web site and join a group if you want to talk about their "history."
 
2007-10-19 12:24:28 PM  
mofomisfit


Hah. Butterfield's actually an freshman academic dorm now. I lived there for a year. I'm not much of a hippy hater, but there were some real "danker-than-thou" assholes in that dorm

No shiat...I guess it was only a matter of time. When I was there it was pretty run down, and almost like a squatter's paradise...had some problems with the PC police too, because they flew a jolly roger on top of the building, if I remember correctly. It was the place to go for extracurricular pharmacutical needs, as well.

Times, they are a changing, apparently.
 
2007-10-19 12:30:19 PM  
I meant "vociferous" as I thought it was a synonym of vehement.

Is it not?

"Demanding" as to my appetite for music is what I meant.

No?

Look it up.
 
2007-10-19 12:38:47 PM  
ihatedumbpeople: When colleges offer classes like this they should be burned down.

Remember the "Matrix Philosophy" classes that popped up?
BURN THEM ALL
 
2007-10-19 12:42:04 PM  
Tat'dGreaser

Don't remember too many rapes when I was there (93-95), but considering the amount of people crammed into a small area like that it's not surprising, I suppose.


I don't mind the Dead's music...

Their fans? Eh...not so much, in general.
 
2007-10-19 12:43:55 PM  
craigdamage: HAHAHAHHA!!!!

Great subby.


The Grateful Dead were by far my single most disappointing moment in my lifelong musical exploration.
Back in 79-80 (I was 12-13) I became bitten by the music bug and I developed a vociferous appetite for music. I started with Hendrix and quickly to Zeppelin which led me to Sabbath. It became obvious I was really into the older and heavier bands. Pink Floyd really did it though. I now really liked the heavy and trippy weird stuff. All this time I kept hearing about this 60s band called "The Grateful Dead"

Wow!
What a weird and enigmatic name!
They are DEAD but they are GRATEFUL....woah!!!
And they had such cool as hell looking album covers too.
That freaky ass weird skeleton dude.

Anyway,I bought a couple of their records and as you can imagine my disappointment was profound.

I am now 39 years old and I still don't get it.
Listening to the Dead is like trying to eat plain un-flavored oatmeal. Wet cardboard with no taste.
I attempted to like them many times never could.
I do kinda like some moments on "Aoxoamoxa" (sorry if not spelled correct) and maybe some parts from "Blues for Allah" are ok.

I will state this--"Wake of the Flood" and "Working Man's Dead" are without a doubt the two most boring Goddamned records in rock history. I will listen to two hours of a dentist drill before I ever listen to those again.


The Dead was never a great studio band. You also picked a couple of their worst albums too.

Go listen to Europe '72 or something and then report back.
 
2007-10-19 12:46:38 PM  

craigdamage


I meant "vociferous" as I thought it was a synonym of vehement.

Is it not?

"Demanding" as to my appetite for music is what I meant.

No?


No. You could have been vociferous; your appetite could not, unless your appetite were imbued with the power of speech and capable of expressing itself verbally. :-)

What is the root of 'vociferous'?
 
2007-10-19 12:51:54 PM  
UMass? It's educational.


Now there is a band!
 
2007-10-19 12:59:44 PM  
keylock71

I lived there the last year before it switched, and not much from what you described was different. I find it kind of hilarious that the Jolly Roger was the target of PC complaints. I don't get it, who does that offend? Eighteenth century naval merchants?

But the reason given for the switch was that there was a bust that year and six kids got taken out for selling heroin. Oh, and some kids brought a few bottles of absinthe back from Europe after winter break and drew ink designs up and down the halls of the second floor. Nothing too crazy in comparison to the dorm's history, but the times they are a'changing.
 
2007-10-19 01:04:44 PM  
Scarlet > Fire does not disappoint

Most of the rest eats arse
 
2007-10-19 01:07:07 PM  
mofomisfit

They had a Co-op there too, I believe...damn good food...well, better then the shiat they served in the dining commons anyway....farking bagel dogs.
 
2007-10-19 01:11:05 PM  
keylock71

Yeah yeah! That was great! The only thing that annoyed me about it was that I couldn't eat anywhere else even if I wanted to. Sometimes it was just easier to go to Franklin for lunch.
 
2007-10-19 01:13:46 PM  
And I saw a lot of great bands live in the basement. Psychedelic Breakfast, Deep Banana Blackout, lots of interesting stuff.
 
2007-10-19 01:15:55 PM  
there are a few diamonds in the rough. Europe '72 and Reckoning are always good for a spin.
 
2007-10-19 01:20:50 PM  
I was vociferous in my appetite for music which I consumed voraciously. --yeah,I hope that is better thank you.

Also,I admit I never did have any of their live records AND I never had their second record "Anthem of the Sun" which I have heard described as: "the album that even those who despise the Dead like"
(The Grateful Dead themselves admit their first record was bad and their second was an attempt at redeeming themselves)

Oh well,at least I am not some troll who just says "Garcia sucks" or whatever. I never said they weren't real pros or they were bad musicians. I described my experience with their music and stated my opinion which is a hell of a lot better than most here at FARK.



btw--I am a bassist and I know for a fact that Lesh is a superb bass player.
 
2007-10-19 01:23:24 PM  
haha, great headline
 
2007-10-19 01:28:25 PM  
mofomisfit

That's right, forgot about the gigs they used to have there...saw some decent bands there myself...Dieselmeat and Bongos to Circus are the only two names I can remember, at the moment...

I liked it there...everybody was usually cool...way better parties than the usual lacrosse stick carrying, jocko, GAP fashion victim parties they had in Southwest...though I had some great fun in Kennedy tower.
 
2007-10-19 02:39:38 PM  
keylock71

Ain't that the truth. Lived in Washington my first year, I freaking hated southwest.

Of course, moving off campus was better than both.

/Leverett FTW, although Sunderland was pretty cool. Gotta love 7-O's. (not sure if I'm spelling it right, been a while since I've been out there)
 
2007-10-19 02:40:19 PM  
"My sister went there. I just loved how she told me how many counts of rape that were reported each year. Some girl was gang raped just outside one of her buildings."

Have you ever lived in a city? I'm going with the assumption 'no'. Unfortunately, this is common even in schools in small towns.
 
2007-10-19 02:48:29 PM  
hammbone: there are a few diamonds in the rough. Europe '72 and Reckoning are always good for a spin.

Har - the subject of my favorite one-sentence review of all time, and by the great Lester Bangs at that:

"Dead fans count 'Europe '72' as one of the band's best albums, which means it will end up on everyone elses' 'worst of' list."
 
2007-10-19 03:02:07 PM  
I like the Dead and that headline made me chuckle.
 
2007-10-19 03:09:00 PM  
Well, if you want to get in the weeds then, get Dicks Picks Volume 8 - 5/2/70 - Harpur College in Binghamton, NY.

The first set is acoustic. The second set blisters with one of the best jams I've ever heard by anyone as it goes from St. Stephen > Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One > back into Cryptical Envelopment.

It gives me chills every time I hear it, and that version of "The Other One" is the best I've heard.

/Dead fan
//fan of many, many other good bands as well
 
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