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2007-10-17 08:12:06 PM  
Hmmm. Having been to Ireland a number of times I have never observed this. Maybe if I immigrated it would be different, but somehow I doubt it.
 
2007-10-17 08:17:33 PM  
The Irish distrust and dislike all foreigners who don't drink with them.

fify
 
2007-10-17 08:28:34 PM  
I agree with IgG4, I also have been to the Irish Republic quite a few times and had always felt nothing but politeness from the people whether it was in Dublin, Galway or Waterford. I did not travel to Northern Ireland while I was there so it may be a little different. I always had a good time in any pub or restaurant I went to.
 
2007-10-17 08:48:40 PM  
Been there a few times, and one time I even ended up closing a bar with a couple of strangers that were great specimens of humanity. We were buying drinks back and fourth and having a great time.

The Irish kick ass!
 
2007-10-17 08:49:20 PM  
They don't like the English too much in the south however.
 
2007-10-17 09:26:50 PM  
I've got a friend who's African-American and she went to visit Ireland. She went into a random pub in some town (not Dublin) and a drunk wanker shouted "Whatsa facking ni**er's doin' around 'ere?" and pretty much everyone started to laugh.

Yeah, go to the bigger towns, and it's like (mostly) any big Western towns in the world.

Go into the smaller towns, and it's full of rednecks (pretty much like any small Western towns in the world, I guess).
 
2007-10-17 09:28:34 PM  
And I in turn dislke and distrust all Irish.
 
2007-10-17 09:40:18 PM  
O. K., we'll take the naggers and the chinks, but we don't want the Irish.
 
2007-10-17 09:42:05 PM  
CelebrityPharmacist: And I in turn dislke and distrust all Irish.

i.rollingstone.com

You're wrong

www.theage.com.au

You're quite wrong

famouspoetsandpoems.com

You're REALLY wrong
 
2007-10-17 09:52:59 PM  
Eh...no more than any other country I'd say.

/lived there for five years.
 
2007-10-17 10:30:44 PM  
Tatsuma: Go into the smaller towns, and it's full of rednecks (pretty much like any small Western towns in the world, I guess).

Ya' shauld see what dey say to de Jooze!

(And if'n ya' can toss back a good wit to de twit, den yooor mooore dan welcome! Ya' see... weeer a toff lot, who looves a toff skinn'd basterd like yooorself. Pint's'n me!)
 
2007-10-17 11:21:42 PM  
Born in Chapelizod -well born in a hospital but removed to Chapelizod soon thereafter. I agree. Get off my lawn.
 
2007-10-18 01:21:48 AM  
A nasty Mick is nasty indeed. Some of the most inhumanly foul people I know are Irish. They take meanness to a new level. Dispicability hangs on them like drapes. That's a minority, to be sure, and everyone I've known who went to Ireland loved it and said the people there were nice. Maybe the Bronx rewires their brains when they get here.
 
2007-10-18 02:40:04 AM  
Smitty: The Irish distrust and dislike all foreigners are good for nothing drunk losers.

FIFY
 
2007-10-18 03:00:25 AM  
I hope to someday visit the Honkey-motherland.
 
2007-10-18 03:00:35 AM  
This is crap.

I'm Irish, and this is crap.
 
2007-10-18 03:01:23 AM  
MoeSzyslak: Smitty: The Irish distrust and dislike all foreigners are good for nothing drunk losers.

FIFY


FIFY?
 
2007-10-18 03:03:49 AM  
SoxSweepAgain:
This is crap.

I'm Irish and this is crap. and I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...


FTFY
 
2007-10-18 03:06:03 AM  
Seems like an appropriate place to post this: Dylan Moran on Germany (NSFW language).
 
2007-10-18 03:07:10 AM  
RocketRod:
(And if'n ya' can toss back a good wit to de twit, den yooor mooore dan welcome! Ya' see... weeer a toff lot, who looves a toff skinn'd basterd like yooorself. Pint's'n me!)


Umm... I think it wants a beer?
 
2007-10-18 03:07:45 AM  
radioman_: A nasty Mick is nasty indeed. Some of the most inhumanly foul people I know are Irish. They take meanness to a new level. Dispicability hangs on them like drapes. That's a minority, to be sure, and everyone I've known who went to Ireland loved it and said the people there were nice. Maybe the BronxBoston rewires their brains when they get here.

FTFY
 
2007-10-18 03:08:23 AM  
I'm Irish, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

I never understood why people hate us. We aren't ALL grubby and mean, you know...
 
2007-10-18 03:12:30 AM  
JoeBagadonutz:O. K., we'll take the attractive and successful African-Americans and the chinks, but we don't want the Irish.

Awww prairieshiat. Everybody.
 
2007-10-18 03:12:44 AM  
Ah the Irish, I hung around one for a brief time when I was in Munich for a weekend. Stayed a hostel with some buddies and I don't even remember how we picked that guy up. We were all drinking in the hostel bar and next thing I know we are bar hopping with this little Irish kid. We were walking around downtown munich and he's smashing car mirrors and knocking stuff over. He really lived up to the stereotype of the angry Irish drunk. Only talked to him for a few minutes in a bar, he asked me my last name (Goldberg) and why don't look like a Jew (cause I'm not), and then it was ten minutes of how he didn't realize American women were so tall and then passed out. We left him a few minutes to get more drinks and came back and he was gone.

/Of all of my memories of Munich, that guy comes in first place and I don't know why.
//I would really like to visit Ireland some day
 
2007-10-18 03:16:05 AM  
We're always after their lucky charms.
 
2007-10-18 03:18:57 AM  
archeochick

Umm... I think it wants a beer?

Hey, when in doubt in Ireland, buying a drink for someone you can't understand never hurts.

Doubly true in Scotland.

Not so in Wales though... if you run afoul of someone belligerent and incomprehensible, you'd better know a shepherd who moonlights as a pimp.
 
2007-10-18 03:28:39 AM  
I am Irish and this is pure crap. I come from a small rural town in Cork and if a black guy came into the bar and some fool called him a attractive and successful African-American no one would laugh. In fact he'd be told to shut the f**k up and someone would buy the black lad a pint to apologise.
With regards to the guy in Munich there are bad apples everywhere but in general we are friendly. In fact if you read the start of the article again the reason why this Irish guy (writing for a British newspaper, grrrr ;-) ) starting this in the first place is because we were voted "Friendliest Country in the World" by the Lonely Planet.
And the "Irish" in the Bronx are American. Fair play to them for being proud of their heritage and we are proud of the Irish descendants in America but, in my opinion, unless you live in Ireland or are an Irish citizen you can't really have any influence on whether the Irish can be regarded as the friendliest people on the planet or not.
 
2007-10-18 03:33:12 AM  
The Grinch: archeochick

Umm... I think it wants a beer?

Hey, when in doubt in Ireland, buying a drink for someone you can't understand never hurts.

Doubly true in Scotland.

Not so in Wales though... if you run afoul of someone belligerent and incomprehensible, you'd better know a shepherd who moonlights as a pimp.


THAT made me LOL. almost spilt me drink, that did.
 
2007-10-18 03:36:18 AM  
I'm Irish/German. All Your Breweries Belong to Us.
 
2007-10-18 03:37:07 AM  
thesraid:
And the "Irish" in the Bronx are American. Fair play to them for being proud of their heritage and we are proud of the Irish descendants in America but, in my opinion, unless you live in Ireland or are an Irish citizen you can't really have any influence on whether the Irish can be regarded as the friendliest people on the planet or not.


"...you can't really have any influence on whether the Irish can be regarded as the friendliest people..." but well, we can't really tell by your reply now, can we.
 
2007-10-18 03:37:17 AM  
thesraid

I think that why the guy in munich stands out some much for me, he totally fit the stereotype. After spending two weeks in germany and getting the whole all american are war-mongering gun toting bush lovers I know too well about the whole bad apple thing. From what i've since in travel brochures ireland seems really beautiful and I really want to visit it.
 
2007-10-18 03:39:54 AM  
I am Irish myself and I can't stand the Irish.
 
2007-10-18 03:47:58 AM  
Ah yes, the Irish -- accepted billions in EU development funds and built a successful economy, then voted against further expansion of the organisation lest their tax euros be used to help poorer countries to the east.
 
2007-10-18 03:48:31 AM  
The Irish distrust and dislike allforeigners all the Eastern Europeans, who they perceive as taking their jobs, immigrating to their country because it has a very rapidly growing economy.

FTFY
 
2007-10-18 03:49:06 AM  
Even this Foreigner?

www.davesontour.com
 
2007-10-18 03:51:45 AM  
I'm going to be Irish (applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Register), and I hope it's friendly; I'm eyeing a move there in the next few years.
 
2007-10-18 03:51:55 AM  
Remember kids, xenophobia differs from xenuphobia by one letter, but that letter makes an enormous difference.
 
2007-10-18 03:52:36 AM  
Because foreigners have been sooooo nice to the Irish the past thousand years. You invite people over for a nice chat and drink and then are stuck with their descendants and bullshiat government for hundreds of years.
 
2007-10-18 03:57:31 AM  
I'm friendly. :D
 
2007-10-18 03:58:58 AM  
Beemer: I'm going to be Irish (applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Register), and I hope it's friendly; I'm eyeing a move there in the next few years.

Beemer: I'm going to be Irish (applied for citizenship through the Foreign Birth Register), and I hope it's friendly; I'm eyeing a move there in the next few years.

As a current American ex-pat, all I can say is -

You're f'in crazy mate.

I've lived in about 5 countries now outside of North America and I can say, without a shred of doubt in my mind, that the United States for all it's faults is still the best place to work and earn a living.

Totally disregard my opinion however if you're independently wealthy.

/And lend me a tree fitty plz.
 
2007-10-18 03:59:17 AM  
The only thing I can add to this story is that Jeff Pinkus from the Butthole Surfers called my Irish friend a "potato ni**er" at a house party. He was joking. Hilarity, it did ensue.
 
2007-10-18 04:00:11 AM  
5000_gallons_of_toothpaste: The Irish distrust and dislike all foreigners who don't drink with them.

fify


i know funny, and this was truely funny. i like drinking with the irish, only they can keep up with us scotsmen.

/arrrrrrrr
 
2007-10-18 04:04:23 AM  
Ya' shoulda' said somethin' all those years ago.
 
2007-10-18 04:08:21 AM  
some_beer_drinker: 5000_gallons_of_toothpaste: The Irish distrust and dislike all foreigners who don't drink with them.

fify

i know funny, and this was truely funny. i like drinking with the irish, only they can keep up with us scotsmen.

/arrrrrrrr


I wish I could drink with an Irishman and Scotsman.

/American
//Irish and Scottish descent
///arrrrrrrr
 
2007-10-18 04:37:33 AM  
Notice this is from the Guardian .co.uk/
So qualified for being able to judge the Irish.


/And I don't know why a Nuclear Physicist would expect a job in their field here. But I've yet to be served by one.
 
2007-10-18 04:37:57 AM  
MickCollins: Because foreigners have been sooooo nice to the Irish the past thousand years. You invite people over for a nice chat and drink and then are stuck with their descendants and bullshiat government for hundreds of years.

Actually, I prefer American government by the Irish.

More Irish, I say!

/Tip O'Neill, JFK, Ronnie Reagan, etc.
 
2007-10-18 04:38:24 AM  
guardian just went down like 50 points in my book
 
2007-10-18 04:42:49 AM  
Well, I'm Irish, but haven;t lived there in about 6 years. Where I'm from, no one would be rude to a foreigner, but then again, they were only tourists there in my day.
I now live in Holland, and BOY do they hate foreigners, all ones, regardless of colour, creed and place of origin.
I hate and avoid the type of stereotype Irish idiot some people here have described...the ignorant git. Funnily enough, most of the ones I have met are from Dublin or cork or limerick cities. They are basically chavs, and easily spotted though.
 
2007-10-18 04:46:59 AM  
I visited Dublin around this time last year and had a blast. The only assholes I met were Australians who had come in for a rugby match that their team lost.

Of course, I followed the "when in Rome" doctrine of cultural experience and spent 80% of the trip drinking. Maybe they're more friendly to you if you dive right into their pub culture.

I miss Imperial pints. You can never go back to 12 ounce beers.
 
2007-10-18 04:54:20 AM  
IgG4: Hmmm. Having been to Ireland a number of times I have never observed this. Maybe if I immigrated it would be different, but somehow I doubt it.

I agree. I have been visiting Eire at least twice a year for ever and never ran into these attitudes. Of course, you can walk through certain neighborhoods or small towns and the locals will give you a once over, might ask what your business is, but I think thats pretty normal anywhere you go.
 
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