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2007-10-05 01:31:59 PM
jst3p: They are 15, 12, 9 and 4. You have issues.

And you said the oldest is the only one that's spoken for, right?
 
2007-10-05 01:33:20 PM
FTFA: "Totally irresponsible and totally against the law. You've got a deranged-acting mother toting a gun," said Jacksonville Sheriff's Office spokesman Ken Jefferson. "The most irresponsible thing that could have been done is what she did."

media.canada.com

``I'm not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work there, Lou.''
 
2007-10-05 01:37:02 PM
jst3p: This brings to mind my theory on parenting daughters.

I have a daughter and 3 step daughters. The oldest of which is 15 and has begun dating. I am very tempted to head down to the school and take a swing at her boyfriend knocking his ass out.

While I might spend a night in jail and possibly end up with some community service it will forever be known that my daughters have that "psycho dad" who once beat the shiat out of a kid just because he was dating his daughter. This will keep the little hormone balls away from my daughters until they get to college?


Plus you'd be spending a night in jail where you'd be a HERO to the other cops with children...except of course the police chief, because it was probably his son you punched out. :)

Like the others said though, a psycho dad wouldn't have stopped me from trying to date a girl, and the real sleazoids that you don't want creeping on her, wouldn't even consider it.
 
2007-10-05 01:37:41 PM
AuntieM: Little true story. 22 days ago, I get off work. I pick my kid up. I get home and she asks if she can go play in the play yard with all the rest of the kids. I live in an apartment complex that faces the pool and the playground. OK, so I go down there and there are about 10 kids aging from 4-10. I'm the parent that goes down there with my kid and sits in the corner at the picnic bench. Any-yang... my daughter climbs up the " big kid" chain ladder which is about 8 feet off the ground behind another girl which is about 50 pounds heavier and a few years older than my daughter. This kid purposely kicks my daughter in the head as she reaches the top of the ladder. My kid goes flying off the ladder and lands squarely on her back. As I'm rushing over there, the little girl then turns to me and sarcastically says " Oh, I didn't mean to kick her in the head", as she is rolling her eyes. I go to see if my daughter is Ok and then I turn around to look at the other girl's mother who was sitting on her porch, just close enough to hear what was going on. Her mother doesn't do anything... so I wrench this little shiat off the platform and tell her to go home and the next time she is going to get a spanking like she's never seen. I know a different time...different laws. I will go to jail if she pulls that crap again. I know it and accept it. The responsibility is up to the parents to teach their little ones from the beginning that crap like this is unacceptable. I didn't say pull a gun. She must have been pissed.
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It sounds like you might have run into Rosemary's Baby or the Good "Daughter". I don't know what people expect you to do when you think your child is in danger. I can't say that I agree, but I certainly understand.
 
2007-10-05 01:38:22 PM
My wife will be the "Psycho Dad" with our boy. She's already said that she'll be cleaning an AR-15 the first time he brings home a girl. Or a guy.
 
2007-10-05 01:39:38 PM
farfigneugan: sparrow794: I'd rather read this article than read an entirely different article 6 years from now where the kid who's been bullied his whole life shoots up his entire school with an assault rifle.

exactly what I was thinking


Oh yeah... now that he sees his mom handling problems by waving around a handgun, he'll never resort to using guns to handle his own problems. That's some good thinking there
 
2007-10-05 01:41:38 PM
FTFA: "The most irresponsible thing that could have been done is what she did."

Now we know Ken Jefferson doesn't read FARK.
 
2007-10-05 01:43:28 PM
Bullying has come a long way. My kid is taking some form of self defense class, period.

Two main causes it is getting out of hand (just my opinion, no trolling required thanks):
The parents not giving a rat's ass in a lot of cases & tell their kid what they did was actually OK.

The Public Dumbening Center officials wet themselves at the thought of disciplining bullies and are too busy worrying about what snack foods were snuck into the lunch room in defiance of their latest asinine ban.

I'll be on the front step of the house of each bully, ringing their bell and asking to speak to the parents with my camcorder in hand. Fark them, fark their farked up kids.
 
2007-10-05 01:47:10 PM
Just for the record. I bet they don't bully the kid anymore!
 
nk7
2007-10-05 01:47:44 PM
"The most irresponsible thing that could have been done is what she did."

Um, procreate?
 
2007-10-05 01:48:35 PM
jst3p I also have a 15 yr. old daughter...she's not allowed to date until she's 16..that's Jan. I'm terrified...
 
2007-10-05 01:50:51 PM
"Yes, I have a quarter. I have a quarter for each of you."
 
2007-10-05 01:51:14 PM
Spookync: Bullying has come a long way. My kid is taking some form of self defense class, period.

Two main causes it is getting out of hand (just my opinion, no trolling required thanks):
The parents not giving a rat's ass in a lot of cases & tell their kid what they did was actually OK.

The Public Dumbening Center officials wet themselves at the thought of disciplining bullies and are too busy worrying about what snack foods were snuck into the lunch room in defiance of their latest asinine ban.

I'll be on the front step of the house of each bully, ringing their bell and asking to speak to the parents with my camcorder in hand. Fark them, fark their farked up kids.


It won't work. There will always be bullies and with bullies come those that get bullied. To be frank, there are so many other ridiculous issues with our school system, you won't be able to rely on the school to resolve the issues, and confronting the parents probably stands only to worsen the situation since if htey were actually raising the kid in the first place he wouldn't be bullying anyone.
 
2007-10-05 01:53:56 PM
Having your kid take a self defense class is all well and good, but it GETS REALLY OLD, when they are harassed/bullied and they defend themselves AND they get punished due to the zero tolerance crap the schools promote now and only implement on those kids they aren't afraid of enacting some kind of revenge...like coming to school with a gun................These asshat parents need to stop worrying about what the fat kid is eating in the cafeteria and worrying about who their little snowflake is terrorizing. Always found that the parents who were tucked the furthest up the schools ass and worrying about everybody else’s kids did were the parents of the biggest SOB’s in the school.
 
2007-10-05 01:54:39 PM
jst3p
take a lesson from my father in law. Let your daughters date. invite the boys over, and just subtly scare the shiat out of them. My father in law has four biological daughters and two step-daughters. Nobody ever farked with him. :-)
 
2007-10-05 01:57:43 PM
TimShadee: jst3p
take a lesson from my father in law. Let your daughters date. invite the boys over, and just subtly scare the shiat out of them. My father in law has four biological daughters and two step-daughters. Nobody ever farked with him. :-)



Yeah, I have done some of that. My daughters boyfriend's mother is rarely at home and based on what she has told us there is little supervision when she is. So they aren't allowed to "Hang out" at his house. He is welcome over at our house any time. He comes over some days but he has to leave about when I get home at 5:30 (mom is stay at home). I asked her why once and she told me that he is uncomfortable around me. I took that to mean I am doing it right.
 
2007-10-05 01:58:38 PM
australianchik.tripod.com

Bah, all those kids who get beat up on the bus end up in wildly successfull emo/mall punk bands anyway. So goes the circle of life.
 
2007-10-05 02:06:44 PM
ddaug4uf: It won't work. There will always be bullies and with bullies come those that get bullied. To be frank, there are so many other ridiculous issues with our school system, you won't be able to rely on the school to resolve the issues, and confronting the parents probably stands only to worsen the situation since if htey were actually raising the kid in the first place he wouldn't be bullying anyone.

I know & you're right but I'm not going to let the parents of those jackholes get off without being called out as Senior Jackholes.

Fark them anway!
 
2007-10-05 02:07:00 PM
jst3p: I took that to mean I am doing it right.

I would agree. Or take a page from Bill Engvall. I froget the exact quote, but say something like "See that girl over there? next time you think about hugging or kissing her, remember one thing: I'm not affraid to go back to prison."

Luckily, I don't have any kids yet, but when I do, I know I'll be dreading the day they bring someone home.
 
2007-10-05 02:07:51 PM
If you have a problem with guys banging your daughter the solution isn't to be an ass and get all internet tough guy about it. The real solution is to spoil your daughter into a complete high-maintenance biatch princess that will drain the financial and psychological resources of any guy completely dry. Train her to always be in control and to always get her way in any and all relationships in life. Your daughter IS going to fark guys at SOME point, all you can do is make sure whoever dares to touch her pay dearly for the priviledge.
 
2007-10-05 02:08:58 PM
The_Primal_Janitor: Yeah, but suppose one of the bullies is YOUR kid. Now do you feel the same way?

If my kid is part of a group of bullies beating up another kid, I suck as a parent.

If I don't realize that they're doing this until I find out that they've had a gun pulled on them for it, I fail at life.

So, I'd be pissed, but at myself for failing. Not at the other parent for trying to protect their kid.
 
2007-10-05 02:09:02 PM
Glitchwerks: Actually they will still fark with her kid. It'll probably be worse and he'll have the stigma of being the kid with a psycho mom the rest of his school days.

Bullies only stop when you kick their teeth in.


This.

In high school there was this guy who always picked on me when his friends were around. He stopped the day there was blood trickling down his neck from ramming his head into the cement wall with all of his buddies looking at him.
 
2007-10-05 02:09:11 PM
weatherwitch666: Having your kid take a self defense class is all well and good, but it GETS REALLY OLD, when they are harassed/bullied and they defend themselves AND they get punished due to the zero tolerance crap the schools promote now and only implement on those kids they aren't afraid of enacting some kind of revenge...like coming to school with a gun................These asshat parents need to stop worrying about what the fat kid is eating in the cafeteria and worrying about who their little snowflake is terrorizing. Always found that the parents who were tucked the furthest up the schools ass and worrying about everybody else's kids did were the parents of the biggest SOB's in the school.

It might get old that the kid defending themself gets the shiat end of the stick, but I'd rather that than my kid come home looking like hamburger helper.
 
2007-10-05 02:12:37 PM
www.msu.edu

/You know the the Framers would have wanted it this way.
 
2007-10-05 02:15:12 PM
FireZs: If you have a problem with guys banging your daughter the solution isn't to be an ass and get all internet tough guy about it. The real solution is to spoil your daughter into a complete high-maintenance biatch princess that will drain the financial and psychological resources of any guy completely dry. Train her to always be in control and to always get her way in any and all relationships in life. Your daughter IS going to fark guys at SOME point, all you can do is make sure whoever dares to touch her pay dearly for the priviledge.

This is why I use the Mystery Method. Works everytime and does not cost me a dime.
 
2007-10-05 02:15:17 PM
Quasar: The_Primal_Janitor: My hovercraft is full of eels.

Do you want to come back to my place?

Bouncy-bouncy!


i161.photobucket.com

If I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me? I...I am no longer infected.
 
2007-10-05 02:15:48 PM
FireZs: If you have a problem with guys banging your daughter the solution isn't to be an ass and get all internet tough guy about it. The real solution is to spoil your daughter into a complete high-maintenance biatch princess that will drain the financial and psychological resources of any guy completely dry. Train her to always be in control and to always get her way in any and all relationships in life. Your daughter IS going to fark guys at SOME point, all you can do is make sure whoever dares to touch her pay dearly for the priviledge.


Brilliant. Farking brilliant.
 
2007-10-05 02:20:53 PM
FireZs: If you have a problem with guys banging your daughter the solution isn't to be an ass and get all internet tough guy about it. The real solution is to spoil your daughter into a complete high-maintenance biatch princess that will drain the financial and psychological resources of any guy completely dry. Train her to always be in control and to always get her way in any and all relationships in life. Your daughter IS going to fark guys at SOME point, all you can do is make sure whoever dares to touch her pay dearly for the priviledge.

An interesting idea, but this just means a lot of guys will bang her, but fewer times per guy.

Allow me to demonstrate with one of my bogus mathematical equations.

[Number of guys banged]x[Number of times banged per guy]=constant, which depends on her hotness

/got nothin
 
HBK
2007-10-05 02:22:22 PM
Dear children that get bullied:

Get bigger friends.

-HBK
 
2007-10-05 02:23:01 PM
tortilla burger: FireZs: If you have a problem with guys banging your daughter the solution isn't to be an ass and get all internet tough guy about it. The real solution is to spoil your daughter into a complete high-maintenance biatch princess that will drain the financial and psychological resources of any guy completely dry. Train her to always be in control and to always get her way in any and all relationships in life. Your daughter IS going to fark guys at SOME point, all you can do is make sure whoever dares to touch her pay dearly for the priviledge.

An interesting idea, but this just means a lot of guys will bang her, but fewer times per guy.

Allow me to demonstrate with one of my bogus mathematical equations.

[Number of guys banged]x[Number of times banged per guy]=constant, which depends on her hotness

/got nothin


If she is a spoiled princess she is less likely to have the self-esteem issues that inflate the "constant" though.
 
2007-10-05 02:24:27 PM
FireZs: If you have a problem with guys banging your daughter the solution isn't to be an ass and get all internet tough guy about it. The real solution is to spoil your daughter into a complete high-maintenance biatch princess that will drain the financial and psychological resources of any guy completely dry. Train her to always be in control and to always get her way in any and all relationships in life.

How would you recommend I do that? By letting her be a "high-maintenance biatch" towards ME and draining all of MY financial and psychological resources in the meantime? I'd rather teach her to have self-confidence, not have to rely on a guy for love and affection, and make good decisions.

I do agree with you that it is going to happen one way or another. No one ever said being a parent was easy...
 
2007-10-05 02:30:56 PM
HBK: I chuckled. Thanks for the smile... I needed it today.

/late
 
2007-10-05 02:37:54 PM
SchlingFo: If my kid is part of a group of bullies beating up another kid, I suck as a parent.

So... Any and all parents who find out their kid beat up on another kid is a "failure as a parent"? Not sure what world you grew up in, but outside of Mayberry, bullying and being bullied was an every day event in my schools.

If I don't realize that they're doing this until I find out that they've had a gun pulled on them for it, I fail at life.

Oh please. I'm certain these kids knew what they were doing was wrong. That is the very reason they did it -- for the thrill. It isn't exactly difficult to hide these kinds of things from mom and dad...

So, I'd be pissed, but at myself for failing. Not at the other parent for trying to protect their kid.

Careful, it sounds like you have almost convinced yourself of this baloney. I know you are capable of being cerebral, so you can stow the emotional idealism.

As a bully: I jumped on a bandwagon where we beat the crap out this neighborhood kid on a regular basis. He eventually told his folks, and his mother called all of our parents, and notified the school. The bullying stopped.

Being bullied: The most embarrassing day of my High School life came into the spotlight on the bus ride home one fall afternoon. Some kids were making fun of this tall girl who was new in our school. I didn't say a word, but laughed at a comment someone else made. That girl got up out of her seat and started screaming at me in a manic tone I have never seen before or since. Not only did she verbally assault me, she grabbed my book bag and proceeded to beat my face in with it. As if the books weren't bad enough, I happened to be toting a pair of bike pedals that I purchased from a friend that morning. I'm thinking I got it worse than the kid in this article. What happened to me? Nothing. The girl? Nothing. We got over it. It's called "growing up".

So, anyway, don't be so hard on yourself -- I'm guessing you're not a parent yet. You don't automatically "fail at life" just because your kids are acting up behind your back; they're just doing what they do best.

Now, if you are going to argue that waving a pistol at kids is acceptable behavior in reaction to this circumstance, then we simply can never be friends.
 
2007-10-05 02:39:13 PM
The Pho King:
How would you recommend I do that? By letting her be a "high-maintenance biatch" towards ME and draining all of MY financial and psychological resources in the meantime? I'd rather teach her to have self-confidence, not have to rely on a guy for love and affection, and make good decisions.

I do agree with you that it is going to happen one way or another. No one ever said being a parent was easy...


The key is to feed her happily ever after princess-type fairy tales from an early age while simultaneously instilling strong militant feminist ideology of a powerful independant woman in her. Teach her that money is the most important thing in the world, and her value as a woman with a vagina in our society is astronomically high. Then, talk about the common tactics that men will use to try to get into her pants, and have her read every single "how to pick up chicks" guide and/or book out there. This should result in her being extremely paranoid, materialistic, and absolutely impossible to please.

Hey, I never said anything about her happiness or yours, but if you really, truly care about people either not farking your daughter or farking her and getting reamed in the process, there it is.
 
2007-10-05 02:42:56 PM
FireZs: all that stuff you said

Bah, just get her sewn up.

Or nuke her from outer space.

/Only way(s) to be sure.
 
2007-10-05 02:43:57 PM
i221.photobucket.com
 
2007-10-05 02:44:23 PM
TFA: "The most irresponsible thing that could have been done is what she did."

Maybe I'm off my rocker, here... but I'm thinking that actually shooting one of the kids would be more irresponsible.
 
2007-10-05 02:45:48 PM
wmoonfox: TFA: "The most irresponsible thing that could have been done is what she did."

Maybe I'm off my rocker, here... but I'm thinking that actually shooting one of the kids would be more irresponsible.


I know it's too difficult to read the posts, but this has been mentioned at least a half dozen times already.
 
2007-10-05 02:50:48 PM
Reading between the lines, I'd guess that this kid is getting bullied because he is messed up, probably because he comes from a disfunctional family (as his mother's scary behavior suggests).
I wouldn't feel safe around this family. Remember Columbine.
People wonder after the fact "Was there some sign, something we should have seen, to prevent this tragedy?" Um, this sort of sign, let me show you it.
 
2007-10-05 02:52:12 PM
FireZs: If you have a problem with guys banging your daughter the solution isn't to be an ass and get all internet tough guy about it. The real solution is to spoil your daughter into a complete high-maintenance biatch princess that will drain the financial and psychological resources of any guy completely dry. Train her to always be in control and to always get her way in any and all relationships in life. Your daughter IS going to fark guys at SOME point, all you can do is make sure whoever dares to touch her pay dearly for the priviledge.

GodDAMN you're a genius. I wish I'd thought of that.
 
2007-10-05 02:55:28 PM
The_Primal_Janitor: I know it's too difficult to read the posts, but this has been mentioned at least a half dozen times already.

I'll be sure to read all 180 posts before commenting on a Florida story next time, because I really farking care whether you're forced, at gunpoint, apparently, to read the same response uttered by different people.

/not
 
2007-10-05 02:55:32 PM
The_Primal_Janitor: Bah, just get her sewn up.
Or nuke her from outer space.
/Only way(s) to be sure.


This conversation is getting depressing... for now I'll just continue to assume my little snowflake will never do or say anything wrong as long as she lives, and that the only guy she needs in her life is me 8-)
 
2007-10-05 03:01:21 PM
Why are children assumed to have different rights than adults. Why do laws cease being in effect when children are in government school? If people "bully" (read: assault, battery) me, an adult, it will happen one time, I will call the police, and matters will be handled.

For children, it seems, you get to perform felonies repeated daily and half the people in this thread alone think a memo sent to mommy and daddy is discippline enough.

I say extend protection of the law to children. None of this "fight back" shiat. What if you called the police after being mugged and they said "You should fight back - they won't mug you again." Would that work for ya?

These juvenille delinquents need to be cuffed, arrested, and stuck in an "alternative" school (labor camp).
 
2007-10-05 03:03:09 PM
So, the father contacted the school. The only thing the school did was send a note home asking the little snowflakes to stop bullying.

Obviously, the school doesn't care.


This, boys and girls, is why we have swift and tough criminal law enforcement.

When the state cannot, or will not, protect it's citizens from physical harm, the only option is for the victim and the family to arm themselves and let it be known they'll seek retribution from the first person who slights them.

Kinda like Scott Peterson. I need a cite, but I believe there was an incident where the Roche brothers were quoted as saying that Scott Peterson better get the death penalty, because if the State doesn't kill him, they would.

If you put a bunch of pussy liberals in charge who don't use force to prevent force, then society devolves into clans, gangs and families who fight with each other, usually in perpetuity. Don't think it can never happen here.

/Have Been a victim of bullys in public schools
//Now harbor a deep hatred of both
 
2007-10-05 03:06:03 PM
bblustein: Why are children assumed to have different rights than adults. Why do laws cease being in effect when children are in government school? If people "bully" (read: assault, battery) me, an adult, it will happen one time, I will call the police, and matters will be handled.

For children, it seems, you get to perform felonies repeated daily and half the people in this thread alone think a memo sent to mommy and daddy is discippline enough.

I say extend protection of the law to children. None of this "fight back" shiat. What if you called the police after being mugged and they said "You should fight back - they won't mug you again." Would that work for ya?

These juvenille delinquents need to be cuffed, arrested, and stuck in an "alternative" school (labor camp).


I've never done this before...THIS
 
2007-10-05 03:06:20 PM
bblustein: Why are children assumed to have different rights than adults. Why do laws cease being in effect when children are in government school? If people "bully" (read: assault, battery) me, an adult, it will happen one time, I will call the police, and matters will be handled.

For children, it seems, you get to perform felonies repeated daily and half the people in this thread alone think a memo sent to mommy and daddy is discippline enough.

I say extend protection of the law to children. None of this "fight back" shiat. What if you called the police after being mugged and they said "You should fight back - they won't mug you again." Would that work for ya?

These juvenille delinquents need to be cuffed, arrested, and stuck in an "alternative" school (labor camp).


Because most of the time people who are bullied are annoying awkward little farker that the school adults wish they could beat up themselves.

Also, most bullying is verbal.
 
2007-10-05 03:06:37 PM
this is just farking insane.

I was bullied in Junior high. I took martial arts and boxing and then beat the crap out of the first few bullies in high school that messed with me and let them know that i would do it again if they farked with anyone else. They never messed with me or anyone who knew me again. Sometimes kids are capable of solving thier own problems, it just takes some time. But this is a damned poor solution for when they can't.

/This tipe of jackass gives ammunition to the anti-gun nutcases.
 
2007-10-05 03:08:21 PM
type*

/wish i learned to type better in HS.
//Teach your kids to fight. Fighting is bad but is often unavoidable. Winning a fight is much better then losing one and will often solve the problem
 
2007-10-05 03:09:36 PM
bin_smokin: type*

/wish i learned to type better in HS.
//Teach your kids to fight. Fighting is bad but is often unavoidable. Winning a fight is much better then losing one and will often solve the problem


And get YOUR kid expelled..bullies win..
 
2007-10-05 03:13:18 PM
wmoonfox: I'll be sure to read all 180 posts before commenting on a Florida story next time, because I really farking care whether you're forced, at gunpoint, apparently, to read the same response uttered by different people.

Yeah, you're right on this one.

Hey everyone! It would have been worse if she shot the kids, right?

Am I right???

LOLZ!!1eleventy1!!
 
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