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(LA Times)   Residents of gay retirement home fear there are too many straight people moving into their area, and that is NOT fabulous (pic)   (latimes.com) divider line 147
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2007-10-05 08:33:32 AM  
"You don't get it do you? Straight people make gay people uncomfortable because a lot of straight people are intolerant. Gay people don't mind straight people, but they also want to have the freedom to be close to their partners and feel as if they can walk outside without fear of being beaten or murdered because of the way they were born. If straight people in America were accepting of homosexuals there wouldn't be a need for a gay ghetto like this, yet that isn't the case. And to call it hypocritical is absolutely ridiculous because gays motivation isn't hate like it is with straights, it's fear."

So it's ok to label straight people as intolerant and hateful. Check.
 
2007-10-05 08:33:38 AM  
What ever you do don't use the pool (NSFW)
 
2007-10-05 08:39:58 AM  
not surprised by the insensitivity, this is fark after all.

But I don't think people understands this initial group of openly gay senior citizens. They're lives were spent either in the closet out of fear or fighting against hatred and fear. Not saying today is incredibly tolerant but it's a hell of lot more tolerant than it was for them.

They want to be able to be open and comfortable about it in their formative years. After years of fearing or fighting, you just want to be able to be who you are.

And this is just the beginning. There will be more tolerant and welcoming homes for the of the aging gay-community
 
2007-10-05 08:39:59 AM  
MCStymie
We're straight!
We mate!
It's great!
Get used to it!


LOL That is awesome.
 
2007-10-05 08:42:31 AM  
GoodyearPimp: And to call it hypocritical is absolutely ridiculous because gays motivation isn't hate like it is with straights, it's fear."

o rly?

why is hatred toward gays called "homophobia"?

inquiring minds wanna know.

ok, maybe just me.
 
2007-10-05 08:42:42 AM  
I figure if you're old enough that the majority of your life experience is from a radically different culture, then as long as you're isolated from the current culture and don't hurt anyone you should be left the fark alone.

My grandmother was born around 1900, and was moderately racist. No 'cross lightings' but she didn't know how to say 'black' if you get my meaning. We left her alone, and didn't take her anywhere she'd be talking with non-whites.

Same with these guys - they spent their lives knowing that coming out of the closet could get you ostracized or even beaten (possibly to death). The relative tolerance of today is fairly recent.

So, if they want to be anti-straight bigots because they think all straights are severely anti-gay... LET THEM. Besides, the straights in their age group grew up with the same attitudes and are every bit as fixed in their thinking, meaning the old gays are, to a certain extent, RIGHT.
 
2007-10-05 08:44:01 AM  
damn old queens

images.wikia.com
 
2007-10-05 08:49:48 AM  
GoodyearPimp: So it's ok to label straight people as intolerant and hateful. Check.

No, but it's ok to be fearful or apprehensive of intolerance & hatred, especially if you've encountered it in the past. Once burned, twice shy, y'know?
 
2007-10-05 08:56:22 AM  
rocinante721: I'm straight as an arrow, but when I'm old, decrepit, and have no libido, this is probably my Nirvana:



* sigh *


Appletinis? When did they start drinking straight guy drinks?
 
2007-10-05 08:58:08 AM  
Andy_Mac: damn old queens

beat me to it!
 
2007-10-05 09:03:13 AM  
"No, but it's ok to be fearful or apprehensive of intolerance & hatred, especially if you've encountered it in the past. Once burned, twice shy, y'know?"

Most of the hate comes from fear (or the Bible). With fear of straights, it's only a short hop to hate of straights. But it's ok, because they're in that special class of folks in the US: the victim. So hypocrisy rules the day.

"GoodyearPimp: And to call it hypocritical is absolutely ridiculous because gays motivation isn't hate like it is with straights, it's fear."

o rly?

why is hatred toward gays called "homophobia"?

inquiring minds wanna know.

ok, maybe just me."

Please to be showing me where I said any such thing.
 
2007-10-05 09:04:37 AM  
It's never too late to be a dude spooner.
 
2007-10-05 09:04:44 AM  
Horray! A retirement home just for Republicans!

/It's about time
 
2007-10-05 09:04:51 AM  
ghey.
 
2007-10-05 09:12:51 AM  
C'mon, the straight guys are only coming to the retirement home to enjoy the comfort of those spacious, well-decorated closets.
 
2007-10-05 09:13:10 AM  
I just love the inequality of political correctness.

homophobic = bad
heterophobic = OK

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Being heterophobic should be bad too.
 
2007-10-05 09:15:54 AM  
kid_icarus: Now, they're coming in and over-running our bars and clubs...and our retirement communities, too, apparently. We've allowed them to get too friendly with us. They no longer fear us :(

Payback's a butch.
 
2007-10-05 09:18:23 AM  
GoodyearPimp: "
why is hatred toward gays called "homophobia"?
inquiring minds wanna know.
ok, maybe just me."

Please to be showing me where I said any such thing.


didn't say "homophobia" was a the label you'd given it.
methinks this a bit of a sidestep.

what you did say was ""GoodyearPimp: And to call it hypocritical is absolutely ridiculous because gays motivation isn't hate like it is with straights, it's fear.""

my question was not to cast blame of any sort your way but only to clarify then, if your premise be true, why would a hetero's hate of gays be clinically labeled as phobia?
isn't all hate derivative of fear?

semantics, maybe.
i was merely being snarky to shed light that your position may not be as solid as you believe.
 
2007-10-05 09:20:06 AM  
Would any one be complaining if these were retired gays of the female persuasion?
 
2007-10-05 09:22:48 AM  
This is an easy problem to solve. Give the place a really gay name like Homotopia and watch the phobes run. No god fearin' republican is going to write that on a check every month, no matter how good the hors d'oeuvres and fruity drinks are.
 
2007-10-05 09:25:28 AM  
Son of Thunder: kid_icarus: Now, they're coming in and over-running our bars and clubs...and our retirement communities, too, apparently. We've allowed them to get too friendly with us. They no longer fear us :(

Payback's a butch.


Excellent!
/too bad I don't make babies. You could have them for me.
 
2007-10-05 09:29:39 AM  
Awww boo hoo, what happened to the "we want to be treated equally" schtick?

All of a sudden teh gays become discriminatory? Sorry, doesn't work that way. You want us to accept you equally? Fine, then you have to do the same, and living in your homotopia is part of the deal.
 
2007-10-05 09:31:27 AM  
lastowl: Is that lemon margarita being prepared for possiblay a lemon party, Barry Balltzley?

Damn you, it took me months to get that image unseared from my brain.
 
2007-10-05 09:36:05 AM  
Those queer hypocrites. I don't know the phobic term for straight-haters, but those queers have it!
 
2007-10-05 09:37:36 AM  
Dear Jebus_Crispy, learn to use the Find function. I quoted a previous poster and commented on that post. Since you've now managed to do it twice, I refuse to accept any apology you give.
 
2007-10-05 09:44:18 AM  
Plutus_B: This is an easy problem to solve. Give the place a really gay name like Homotopia and watch the phobes run. No god fearin' republican is going to write that on a check every month, no matter how good the hors d'oeuvres and fruity drinks are.

Bwahahahahaha!

/they may try to peek through the windows, though
 
2007-10-05 09:45:40 AM  
Throw in a unit of about 25 illegal immigrants and you have a typical community. I see it coming. If they have to unload those units, either by renting or selling, I'm sure a pool of 25-30 could afford it.
 
2007-10-05 09:46:20 AM  
GoodyearPimp: So it's ok to label straight people as intolerant and hateful. Check.

Experience is a damn good teacher.
 
2007-10-05 09:48:03 AM  
GoodyearPimp: Dear Jebus_Crispy, learn to use the Find function. I quoted a previous poster and commented on that post. Since you've now managed to do it twice, I refuse to accept any apology you give.

learn to properly format your replies.

i do now concede that you were quoting another farker (thanks ctrl+f) but as your reply containing the quote was not properly attributed to its origin, i assumed its source to be you.

but i'll not apologize for anything b/c i'm an unrepentant ass.

/snark
//snark snark
 
2007-10-05 09:51:52 AM  
"Your friend to my left is quite mannish."
www.latimes.com"I'm a man baby.......yeah!"
 
2007-10-05 09:52:53 AM  
I would never live by gay women because I can't recall ever meeting a gay woman who was happy, fun to be around, and neat.

Gay men on the other hand, that sounds like a good neighborhood. Probably clean, quiet, respectful, and social. I'd love to live there and I'm not gay at all. They're good people to be around.
 
2007-10-05 09:53:45 AM  
img526.imageshack.us
 
2007-10-05 09:53:55 AM  
kid_icarus: nashBridges
The irony, of course, is because a group of people who have been historically bitten in the ass by discrimination are now getting bitten by the progress we've made to eliminate it. This only proves that as a species, humans are capable of always winning and losing at the same time.

Ain't it the truth. Used to be straight people would shun us strictly out of fear/hatred or whatever.

Now, they're coming in and over-running our bars and clubs...and our retirement communities, too, apparently. We've allowed them to get too friendly with us. They no longer fear us :(


That's because you people live in the nice part of town and know how to throw a party.
 
2007-10-05 09:56:22 AM  
GoodyearPimp

So, to summarize:

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to ... the dark side?

www.the-planets.com
Approves of your reasoning,
Yoda does.


/just trying to add a little levity ...
 
2007-10-05 09:59:31 AM  
Not that there's anything wrong with straight people, in moderation.

I LOLd! It's like what straight people say, only more honest.
 
2007-10-05 10:08:56 AM  
daneurysm Appletinis? When did they start drinking straight guy drinks?

Probably the first bit that came to mind after catching the headline.

I love that show.
 
2007-10-05 10:16:27 AM  
Are these the same gay people you insisted for years and years "we're here, we're queer, get used to it!"? Okay we did. We accepted that gays deserve to have the same life and opportunities as the rest of us and that their sexual orientation should be off the table. Now they are telling us we arean't welcome because we are straight. Maybe they should go back into the closet. They seemed happier there.
 
2007-10-05 10:19:29 AM  
They're probably worried about how the str8s take over. Anyone see that Daily Show with the guy who moved to the Castro with his family and started protesting that there were Gay Pride parades that he didn't want his kids to see?

Seriously, though, this article seems to be searching for a problem where none exists presently. The burning issue is they have a lot of units for sale that might be purchased by straight people, but so far the place isn't overrun with the former breeders. Slow news day anyone?
 
2007-10-05 10:19:56 AM  
I don't think having more straight people move in should be a big issue. But we have to remember that a lot of gay people at this age have lived very long lives of fear, hate, discrimination and hiding. Being in a vibrant community where they can be themselves is probably a fantastic experience for them they are afraid to lose.
 
2007-10-05 10:22:13 AM  
FTFA: openly gay politicians in national office

Yes because we ALL know how well that worked out

/rolls eyes
//cough cough
/Mark Foley
/New Jersey govna
//cough
 
2007-10-05 10:24:34 AM  
Are they afraid the straight people are going to bring the property value up?
 
2007-10-05 10:27:35 AM  
SLAP FIGHT!
 
2007-10-05 10:29:28 AM  
Did anyone else think of lemonparty?

//Shudder.
 
2007-10-05 10:31:22 AM  
I live in a very gay community, and I hear a constant grumble about all the 'breeders' moving into the neighborhood, driving up prices and bring chain stores...(not the fun kind of chains).

We are tolerated because we don't have kids, share the same tastes and play well with others, so I guess we aren't like them OTHER NAGGERS.

People are people, being gay doens't put you above pettiness, hypocrisy or a desire to be in te comfort of like minded folk.
 
2007-10-05 10:34:14 AM  
You all disappoint.

imagecache2.allposters.com
 
2007-10-05 10:34:16 AM  
bstud: FTFA: openly gay politicians in national office

Yes because we ALL know how well that worked out

/rolls eyes
//cough cough
/Mark Foley
/New Jersey govna
//cough


What part of "openly" do you not understand?
 
2007-10-05 10:35:49 AM  
My parents live down the street from this place. Haven't heard any news about it until now.

It's a really shiatty location for a gay retirement park. Aside from backing up to the highway (I25), it's next to a mormon church and across the street from a cemetery. Not things I'd wanna be near if I were a gay old person.
 
2007-10-05 10:36:13 AM  
griffer: I live in a very gay community, and I hear a constant grumble about all the 'breeders' moving into the neighborhood, driving up prices and bring chain stores...(not the fun kind of chains).

We are tolerated because we don't have kids, share the same tastes and play well with others, so I guess we aren't like them OTHER NAGGERS.

People are people, being gay doens't put you above pettiness, hypocrisy or a desire to be in te comfort of like minded folk.


I think the issue is once you let in the breeders they start with their "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" hysteria and the next thing you know you can't wear a leather harness to walk the dog in your own neighborhood.

/don't like gay ghettos myself
//but please don't move into one and complain about all the gay people
 
2007-10-05 10:37:10 AM  
Doesn't look that bad actually. I'd like to retire there someday.

/not gay NTTAWWT
/not THAT old
 
2007-10-05 10:37:16 AM  
FTA: There is little chance a person not comfortable with gays would move into RainbowVision, Silver said. "You have to pass three rainbow flags before you even get in the place," she said.

I think it is a pretty good assumption that the straight people who choose to move there would do it out of common intrests (aside from sexuality) and the thought of living near "the gays" won't be an issue for them. I would think that living your life openly with accepting strait people would be comforting to someone who spent so much of their life hiding who they really were. Yet I can also see why they would be skeptical after past experiences.
 
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