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(Yahoo)   The good news: more than 1700 miners have been rescued from the collapsed mine in South Africa. The bad news: there are about 1,500 still trapped   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2007-10-04 08:47:18 AM  
Its just brown people though right? Thank god no american females are there or we would have to invade.
 
2007-10-04 08:48:03 AM  
Am I the only one stunned by the sheer number of people involved in this story?

How big a gold mine is this and how many people do they have down there to begin with?
 
2007-10-04 08:48:48 AM  
Hey, doing better than that mine in Utah where they were unable to find 6 miners (or was it 7?).
 
2007-10-04 08:48:56 AM  
Magorn: Am I the only one stunned by the sheer number of people involved in this story?

How big a gold mine is this and how many people do they have down there to begin with?


They were going for the world record for most number of people in one mine shaft at one time when the elevator thingy broke. It's a shame, too, they only needed 4 more people to bag the record!
 
2007-10-04 08:49:44 AM  
Trapped.
This word is being used improperly.
They are... impeded in their exiting.
 
2007-10-04 08:52:55 AM  
Surprising that there is still so much value placed on a metal that is essentially a great conductor of electricity. Besides that it is for baubles and trinkets.

Not as bad as the fraud that is a diamond though.
 
2007-10-04 08:59:13 AM  
babalu87

You mean the hardest natural material and the best heat conductor?
 
2007-10-04 09:02:18 AM  
Godspeed, digger men, Godspeed.

/3200 people in the mine at once?
//Must be a huge farking mine.
 
2007-10-04 09:03:28 AM  
suggestivesimon: babalu87

You mean the hardest natural material and the best heat conductor?


Nah, someone just started Econ 101 this semester...
 
2007-10-04 09:06:53 AM  
SA has the deepest mines in the world.
Some are exceeding depths of 5km.

/dunno what that is in miles.
 
2007-10-04 09:09:54 AM  
suggestivesimon: You mean the hardest natural material and the best heat conductor?

Strongest refractor, too.
 
2007-10-04 09:10:41 AM  
LastOfTheMullets: /dunno what that is in miles.

Roughly 3.
 
2007-10-04 09:10:59 AM  
I'm wrong.
Deepest mine is 3.6km.
 
2007-10-04 09:11:42 AM  
LastOfTheMullets

5 km is a little over 3 miles.
 
2007-10-04 09:14:38 AM  
Surprising that there is still so much value placed on a metal that is essentially a great conductor of electricity. Besides that it is for baubles and trinkets.

Gold is very desirable in electronic applications because of its corrosion resistance and its tendency to not react with substances in the atmosphere. Its conductivity is good, but silver has it beat by a long shot.
 
2007-10-04 09:15:01 AM  
Subtard, did you even read the article? There was no "collapse"

"There were no casualties when a pressurized air pipe snapped at the mine near Johannesburg and tumbled down a shaft Wednesday, causing extensive damage to an elevator and stranding more than 3,000 miners more than a mile underground."
 
2007-10-04 09:20:03 AM  
Kygz: LastOfTheMullets

5 km is a little over 3 miles.


pandabear: LastOfTheMullets: /dunno what that is in miles.

Roughly 3.


Thank you!

/ Now what is a quarter pounder known as in france????
 
2007-10-04 09:22:25 AM  
babalu87: Surprising that there is still so much value placed on a metal that is essentially a great conductor of electricity. Besides that it is for baubles and trinkets.

Not as bad as the fraud that is a diamond though.


The difference between Gold and diamond is that Gold has real world applications other than supposedly looking pretty and that its value derives from its actual worth. Diamonds are only 'pretend' rare and precicious. They are the product of marketing.

You will never be able to sell a diamond you just bought for anything but a fraction of what you paid for it. Gold can be bought and sold more or less freely and even be used as an investment.

While diamond's real world applications are mostly based on its hardness, it can easily replaced with 'artificial' dimaonds in most cases. Absence a true philosopers stone there is no way to artificially create gold.

In addition to being a good conductor gold has a host of other usefull atributes ranging from its softness to its resistance to rust and oxidation.

Gold is extremly heavy. It has a higher density than even lead or uranium. If it wasn't for the price-tag involved the military would be literring the desert with gold bullets instead of depleted uranium.

There is a reason why gold is considered to be so valuable that people would risk their lives mining it and unlike diamonds those reasons have some truth to it.
 
2007-10-04 09:27:06 AM  
Loki-L
Thanks for bringing common sense into the discussion.

If gold wasnt used as a bauble/decoration would it have nearly the value that it currently has?
Understood that it is great as what it is, a metal but much of its value is as a decoration.
 
2007-10-04 09:33:14 AM  
Diamonds and bonded diamond dust grinding wheels are used extensively in the tool and die industry for cutting and grinding carbide, which has a higher Rc hardness than glass.

And as a tool and die maker I got a kick out of my reply....

/Doesn't quite work as well there does it?
 
2007-10-04 09:36:32 AM  
Grither: Magorn: Am I the only one stunned by the sheer number of people involved in this story?

How big a gold mine is this and how many people do they have down there to begin with?

They were going for the world record for most number of people in one mine shaft at one time when the elevator thingy broke. It's a shame, too, they only needed 4 more people to bag the record!


However, they probably succeeded in breaking the record for the most number of miners trapped at one time.
 
2007-10-04 09:38:43 AM  
Gold is used in many high science applications. Even the one you use now to make the comments are powered by gold.

Sure, an agrarian society doesn't need gold except as a bauble, but a modern, space faring race can use it as one of the few hyper conductive at room temperature metals.

Based on the price at Circuit city, monster cables are made entirely out of gold.
 
2007-10-04 09:39:43 AM  
This is a nothing story to fill up the headlines. The big farking elevator broke and they are having to use the small farking elevator.

Hungry? prolly. Kinda thirsty? prolly.

It didn't farking cave in on them. Geeze you would think there is no other news in the world.
 
2007-10-04 09:40:00 AM  
Poor tykes. Not even old enough to drink and this happens to them.

"Miners, not minors!"

www.matchflick.com
 
2007-10-04 09:52:05 AM  
But what about the other 3,000 trapped miners? What has become of them and their plight?
 
2007-10-04 09:53:16 AM  
more than 1700 miners have been rescued from the collapsed mine in South Africa

What the hell were that many kids doing in a mine anyway? Giant field trip?
 
2007-10-04 09:59:34 AM  
In electronics, Au is used as a minority carrier suppressing dopant, here the quantities are small, but the material is essential.

It is used in bonding wires for chips, but there are some alternatives.

It is used as a fairly lubricious anti-oxidation coating, but other alloys have come to the fore here.

It is important to try to reduce our reliance on precious metals in engineering. I include Chrome and Platinum and Palladium here as well.
 
2007-10-04 10:03:04 AM  
The mine did not collapse. The elevator is busted.
-1,500, Subby
 
2007-10-04 10:04:42 AM  
proton: Subtard, did you even read the article? There was no "collapse"

"There were no casualties when a pressurized air pipe snapped at the mine near Johannesburg and tumbled down a shaft Wednesday, causing extensive damage to an elevator and stranding more than 3,000 miners more than a mile underground."



Broken elevator '= Collapsed mine
 
2007-10-04 10:14:00 AM  
Cue bigotted, insensitive, racist remark....

Don't worry South Africa. We can send you more Africans to replace those. We're done with them here....


/This is Fark, you will get over it.
 
2007-10-04 10:17:01 AM  
Looking good so far.
 
2007-10-04 10:25:31 AM  
Jacobin

The country's economy is based mostly on the mining activities, so when something like this happens it has a huge effect on the economy. So yeah, its news. Would you rather have heard that their police commissioner is up for arrest?

/Also, Elandsrand is by far not the biggest mine in the country. That title belongs to Tau Tona which is about 4 km deep, with an second extention taking place
 
2007-10-04 10:38:24 AM  
That poor gold mine, that could be a million dollar loss.

//sorry...
 
2007-10-04 10:45:47 AM  
It amazes me how much news this non-news story is getting.

It's not a mine collapse.

None of the miners is in danger of anything except maybe claustrophobia.

They will all be out within an hour.

And within a few days they'll all be back down there.
 
2007-10-04 11:06:19 AM  
destrip: Usually, mines equipped with elevators have alternate methods of egress.

Yep. (new window)

Some pretty cool pics of the wholoe rescue operation here (new window)

/South African
 
2007-10-04 11:24:23 AM  
A diamond lasts forever, but the lives that mine them don't (They'll make more).

Screw diamonds and the misery they cause.

DeBeers: Because marketing a stone to brain dead trophy wives to keep them from biatching is priceless.
 
2007-10-04 11:26:54 AM  
Magorn: Am I the only one stunned by the sheer number of people involved in this story?

How big a gold mine is this and how many people do they have down there to begin with?


Total workforce on the mine is around 5500 people. These guys are trapped on Level 73, 2.2km down, but the mine reaches a lot further down to level 117 at 3.56km.

By law, there always have to be alternative shafts for use in emergency, but in this case the alternative is normally used for rock transfer to the surface and some time is required to refit it in order to transfer people.
 
2007-10-04 11:56:29 AM  
1500 African Miners? That's like 15 Americans right?


/I keed
 
2007-10-04 12:36:02 PM  
degreeless: 1500 African Miners? That's like 15 Americans right?

If measured in average pant size, your 1:100 conversion factor might just approach reality.
 
2007-10-04 12:53:32 PM  
Loki-L:

Not as bad as the fraud that is a diamond though.

Diamonds are only 'pretend' rare and precicious. They are the product of marketing.


Not entirely true. Diamonds are used in knife sharpeners and drill bits. There are many industrial uses for diamonds. However these are not "Gem Quality" stones.

/Bought my wife an opal for our engagement
//It's what she wanted.
 
2007-10-04 02:10:43 PM  
destrip: I imagine that the laws are a lot different over there, so maybe they don't have to do that.


Yeah, their laws are probably a lot more modern. South Africans know their mining.

South Africa is not a 3rd world nation. They are saying on the news that South African mines are "deadly" etc, with something like 200 people killed last year, which is just a bit over double the number killed in the US. On a "deaths per man-year worked" I'd bet their record is better than ours or at least comparable. (not to say that either they or we are doing good enough).

If you want to see dangerous mining, look at China. They kill 200 people at a pop, and something on the order of 5 to 10 thousand per year. Russia too.
 
2007-10-04 03:10:24 PM  
1700 escaped. Damn, that does sux
 
2007-10-04 04:04:02 PM  
Magorn: Am I the only one stunned by the sheer number of people involved in this story?

Nope. I have no idea how you get 3200 people into a single hole in the ground. The mind boggles.
 
2007-10-04 04:17:04 PM  
LastOfTheMullets: SA has the deepest mines in the world.
Some are exceeding depths of 5km.

/dunno what that is in miles.


3.1
 
2007-10-04 04:17:57 PM  
LastOfTheMullets: I'm wrong.
Deepest mine is 3.6km.


2.25, sorry
 
2007-10-04 11:58:29 PM  
After hearing about the Chinese mine collapses, with hundreds dead I was really thankful when I heard it was just a "broken elevator"

"Trapped in mine" suggests only one thing after these disasters, this IS more like an extended work day (wonder if they ARE getting paid)

PIA but just TIME till everyone is out and food/water easily supplied while waiting
 
2007-10-05 04:39:26 PM  
This story made me think of:
www.morethings.com
We almost lost a $500 hand cart!
 
2007-10-05 09:51:03 PM  
yeah, you know if it were de beers, they would have kept broken thru, saved the diamonds and left the natives
 
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