NikolaiFarkoff: Sounds like a recipe for a Ted Koppel special entitled "Morehouse vs. Big House"

We Morehouse guys are too busy hanging out on Fark to go to the Big House!

/DRTFA but the way people calculate that misleading stat when pushing their agenda isn't based on people actually in jail but 'combination of incarcerated, on probation, or in any way under the supervision of the judicial system'

Gee, politicians exaggerating and making fire where there is no smoke!!! What is the world coming to?

OhTeddyWhy: NikolaiFarkoff: Sounds like a recipe for a Ted Koppel special entitled "Morehouse vs. Big House"

We Morehouse guys are too busy hanging out on Fark to go to the Big House!

/DRTFA but the way people calculate that misleading stat when pushing their agenda isn't based on people actually in jail but 'combination of incarcerated, on probation, or in any way under the supervision of the judicial system'

maybe you SHOULD rtfa.

Who would make such a race-baiting claim?

*reads article*

Of course.

cheshirecatsmileyface: maybe you SHOULD rtfa.

OK, so the server finally let me read it. I maintain that giving people sound bites based on misleading statistics undermines whatever rational arguments that you're trying to get people to understand.

'There aren't enough black males in college and too many in prison' isn't nearly as attention grabbing but is a reasonable starting point for me.

TheConvincingSavant: Who would make such a race-baiting claim?

*reads article*

Of course.

Normally I disagree with the things you say. But on this, you're 100% correct. The Dem's need to quit pandering to the like of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton; they're driving folks like me into the arms of a less than loving Republican party (not really, they only serve to make me NOT vote).

The fact is that too many black men are throwing their lives away by committing crimes and not enough black men are improving their lives by getting an education or learning a trade.

Political hyperbole aside, there is a real problem.

OlafTheBent: What they don't say is if these men are in college for atheletics or scholastic reasons

but that shouldn't matter. they are in college, for free if they're on athletic scholarship, and having the chance to get a higher education and improve their lives and career prospects

“It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It’s just that they know so much that just isn’t so.” - Ronald Reagan

Prison....college...there's a difference? Both provide a wretched place to live, are dreadfully time-consuming & boring, and offer the occasional surprise butt-sex.

78% of all facts are made up. Everybody knows that!

/First against the wall when the revolution comes!

SchlingFo: Political hyperbole aside, there is a real problem.

Yep. We need more death penalty.

SchlingFo: The fact is that too many black men are throwing their lives away by committing crimes and not enough black men are improving their lives by getting an education or learning a trade.

Political hyperbole aside, there is a real problem.

Yeah, but how many people have the guts to admit it and face the facts?

Also in the news, Dan Rather insists that the story has yet to be confirmed inauthentic.

schattenteufel: Prison....college...there's a difference? Both provide a wretched place to live, are dreadfully time-consuming & boring, and offer the occasional surprise butt-sex.

You're doing it wrong.

What about black male college athletes who go to jail while still enrolled? which category do they fall in. Florida needs an answer before their next player gets arrested

OlafTheBent: We need to work on getting more black men into college on their marks which means that they need access to the tools that will help them do that.


Blacks aren't illegal aliens and they speak english. The have the same 'access' everyone else has.

Sigh. This is a misinterpretation of an article released a couple days ago saying that more African American men are in prison than in DORMITORIES. Not college. And for the first time since 2001 (I think) there are more people in dorms than in prison.

\ Not sure who's eating better

Oh good. Now that we have that settled, and it's clear that everything is peachy-keen for black, urban youth, we can get back to the important things, like paying Blackwater to kill civilians in Iraq.

"thaz right mofo, we juss got out, now we be going to dat cole ledge!"

"More people this year will try cocaine than will read a book to their child."



/Approves

The choice is clear. (pops)

Gosh, you mean John Edwards is actually out-of-touch with the black community? Huh.

They think 5 times is good?

For every 1,000 black college men there are 200 in jail. That is alarming, if you ask me.

So if I am doing my math right less than 60,000 black males between the ages of 16 and 24 are in prison for non-drug related crimes. Shenanighans. I know from watching BET that black people don't read books, bath or brush their teeth. They would also rather spend money on rims that land.

the problem is that the sheep on both sides of the voting body DO NOT look up facts. this is why the GOP will beat the living snot out of Hillary Clinton; they can pretty much make up whatever they want about her and their constituency will gladly eat it up

Oh NOES!

What are some politicians gonna do to get the black vote if there aren't enough of us black folks to point to as hapless-victims-in-dire-need-of-GODvernment-help and or patronize?

What weeze gonna do now boss?

/Fark all those patronizing political MuthaFarkers...
//Got kids to raise and food to put on the table...

That just proves that U.S. is suffering a severe educational inflation.

/Vote for me instead
//I will make all your dreams come true

I love Reason Magazine.

They meant that those guys in prisons should actually be in college. Come on, subby, can't you apply the Rush Limbaugh "he didn't really say that" standard to these guys?

FTA: "We have more work to do when more young black men languish in prison than attend colleges and universities across America."
--Barrack Obama, NAACP forum, July 12, 2007.

So I guess this means we don't have more work to do.

Fuzzy Math?

As the Post Fact Checker notes, the situation is bad enough for young black men that it doesn't need to be exaggerated. One solution goes largely unmentioned by Obama and Edwards--if they really want to keep a lot of young black men (and others) out of prison, end the idiotic Drug War. According to Drug War Facts:

Of the 250,900 state prison inmates serving time for drug offenses in 2004, 133,100 (53.05%) were black, 50,100 (19.97%) were Hispanic, and 64,800 (25.83%) were white.

this.

hillbillypharmacist: I believe, though, that the Democrats are somewhat more likely to end the Drug War than the Republicans. Though to be fair, 'somewhat more likely' is still roughly nil.

I have a perfect plan to end the drug war but no one believes me enough to try it. All you have to do is start fighting it as hard against rich white kids as against poor black kids. Specifically, with real police on private college campuses. When a kid gets caught with drugs on most private college campuses, there is no law enforcement consequences; as much for the protection of their own reputations as for any concern for the kid, colleges tend to try to deal with such things in-house. A kid will get suspended, maybe even expelled, but he won't do time and he won't have a job-crushing criminal record. Off campus, there's no such protection. Start locking up the college kids at the same rate as non-college kids and ten million mommies and daddies who vote and contribute to campaigns will be on the phone to their Congresscritters overnight. Ba da bang, ba da bing, no more drug war. Also, fewer wet towels littering the doorways of dorm rooms.

I was wondering when Barry would start playing the race card. I guess he figures he needs to be more like Jessie* and Al* to win the nomination.

// Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are race war attention whores if ya didn't know

dogdaze:

Luann has gotten hotter over the years.