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2007-10-02 01:30:41 PM
potee: The key is regular maintenance, not driving like an asshole, finding a good mechanic if you can't do stuff yourself, and remembering that Europeans got electricity in like 1974, so they're still not too good at incorporating it into their cars.

The Euro comment made me laugh. I have a 99.5 Jetta (Jetta IV body style), and I've been mechanically happy with it, but I also make sure to get regular oil changes. Unforunately, you're dead on with the electrical. My right door speaker keeps cutting in and out, the center console cup holder broke, because of its terrible design, and the window buttons on the drivers side died, so I had to replace that, but did it myself. Oh, and ongoing issues with the factory installed CD changer, but since I bought it used in '03, I won't biatch too much.

Otherwise, yeah, I'm happy. It still gets me from point A to point B, which is what a car is supposed to do anyway.

/kind of would like a '95 Jetta III, but I can wait
//broke college student FTW!
 
2007-10-02 01:40:08 PM
'96 Accord with 190k and counting... runs like a champ, aside from a few nuisance signs of age - the permanently-on "check engine" light and it's down to 2/4 auto-locks. Never had a major issue with anything. She's on the "gas and oil changes only" plan until it gives up the ghost, or I pay off the Duc. Paid mileage for work + no car payment = really cool.

/knocks on wood
//Hondas rule
 
2007-10-02 01:41:14 PM
The only thing I know about Hondas:
Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda.
 
2007-10-02 01:41:38 PM
Before everyone winds up completely down on the VWs...

I own a 2001 VW Jetta GLX that I bought used at 29K, it has 72K today ... I've never been stranded by it, and there aren't any nagging issues, or major problems.

Last time it was in the shop for anything but an oil change was >20K miles ago.

Total for all the repairs, not including maintenance or warrantied/recall repairs, is under $1000--the pre-owned warranty has been kaput since 53K.

I don't drive like a maniac, and I change the oil every 4-5K. That said I'm PLANNING to hit 100K with it, anything after that will be gravy in my book. I'd feel the same way if it were a Civic, though I'd be a heckavalot more confident in that gravy :-P
 
2007-10-02 01:42:51 PM
95 Saturn
77000 miles

For a long time, I don't drive much, and now I ride a bike.
 
2007-10-02 01:44:53 PM
The VW Passat is just as bad as the Jetta. We had a 2001 with only about 65,000 miles on it and put $3000 in repairs into in the last year. But I couldn't persuade my husband that we should get rid of it. Then we had some brake work done at Midas and two weeks later, the brakes failed and I went into a brick wall. Totaled the car and we FINALLY have a Honda. I should have driven that thing into a brick wall years ago.

And no, I'm not injured, unless you count a few bruises from the airbag/seatbelt. Wear your seatbelt!!
 
2007-10-02 01:45:04 PM
I had a 1977 280Z that had 230,000 miles on it. I never did anything to it except routine scheduled maintenance. It was the best running car I ever had. I was sitting at a red light and the knucklehead behind me fell asleep and smashed into me. $800 scrap value.

The engine ran so smooth and started so easily that the battery lasted 12 years. No kidding. 12 years in Arizona for a battery in anything has to be close to a record.

Miss that car.....but it had no A/C. In AZ, surviving that for the years I had it has to be some kind of stupidity record on my part.
 
2007-10-02 01:45:31 PM
hobbes80

My boss has a 97 Ford Explorer he bought new, it has 350k miles on it, runs like a champ. Only replaced timing belt. My old boss has a 95 Cavalier with 600k miles on it. She changed the oil regularly, rotated the tires, has gone through 1 water pump and 2 serpentine belts.

My buddy has an Explorer, about the same time frame, maybe a few years earlier. The truck is a monster. 300,000 miles and he says everything is original. Only thing is that all of the speakers are blown. You hit the gas on that thing and it roars. 10 mpg.
 
2007-10-02 01:48:51 PM
I have a '77 Chevy Vega with 60k on her. She runs as bad as the day she was made.
 
2007-10-02 01:49:10 PM
Theaetetus: How many farts do you think that driver's seat has absorbed?

Good question!! Coast-to-coast with nothing but fast food...
 
2007-10-02 01:55:37 PM
Irv Gordon is definitely NOT impressed.
 
2007-10-02 01:59:02 PM
I just traded in my 1994 Accord with 180K on it this weekend and bought a 2008 gun metal grey Civic 4 door. It has 150 miles on it right now. She is a beaut!
 
2007-10-02 02:04:30 PM
maxheck: It also survived being the front car of a 4-car chain collision, all I had to do was tie the trunk shut with a bungee cord. The other 3 cars were totalled.

Funny, that.

I had a '97 Mustang convertible that was the front car of a 3-car collision. I was "parked" on I-95 in Pompano Beach, FL (if you've ever driven I-95 in Southern Florida, you'll know why I say "parked"). Next thing I know, *BOOM!* I thought a bomb went off! I look behind to see a Ford Explorer bouncing around. What had happened is that the Explorer had stopped behind me, and an Elantra decided to ram into the ass-end of the Explorer. I thought for sure the ass-end of my car was all stove in. We pulled over to the side of the road (the 2 of us who could still move that is) and I got out to survey the damage.

Splayed paint on the bumper. That's all the damage I had. The Explorer didn't even have that. The Elantra, on the other hand, was all stove in.

I've stuck with Fords ever since. Ford Explorer...Ford van...now a Focus.
 
2007-10-02 02:13:12 PM
My first car was a Jeep. I drove 100+ miles a day. Good car, but bad gas mileage. The beaut was I fixed it up when I was done with constantly going to the gas station, and received more money than I paid for it. Been a VW owner since. Now that is a great car.
 
2007-10-02 02:14:12 PM
SuperCrackMonkey: Grey Street: Don't get me started on VW Jettas. Do. Not. Get me started.

Ah yes. Had a Jetta and then stupidly bought a Cabrio. It was actually warrantied for 100K powertrain. When I bought it, I asked the salesman: "So let me get this straight: the parts made in Germany are warrantied for 10 years, and the parts made in Mexico are warrantied for 2 years?" Yep. In under 5 years I replaced:

Water pump $1400
Secondary air pump $1200
Brakes (don't forget you can't turn the rotors!) $1400
Timing belt $2000

That thing was such a piece of garbage. Don't ever, EVER! buy a VW. Unless you buy it brand spankin' new and sell it after 2 years/20,000 miles. If you own a VW, you don't need a mechanic, you need an exorcist.


had a jetta.
drove it for 10 years after the odometer broke at 167k
it was a strong car
suffered from rust, cheap plastic.
but the engine was great and probably had a lot more left in it.

(just got a mazda3...hoping it'll last...)
 
2007-10-02 02:20:52 PM
I had a '93 Accord that I got from a friend. He had treated it like crap so it was all dented up; the glove compartment wouldn't open; the visor was broken off as was the anteana, which I replaced with a coat hanger; the driver's side window only opened two inches and never closed all the way; the air conditioner was broken; and if you put it in park you never knew if you were going to be able to get it out so you had to leave it in neutral and set the parking break. But it drove like a dream until about 280,000 miles when I hit a Dodge Ram.

/still misses that car a little
//now drives a Civic
 
2007-10-02 02:31:28 PM
Insertwitty Namehere: Before buying a VW always look at the VIN, if it does not begin with the letter W run away.

Phucers! I went to the VW dealership the other day to pick up a penny part for my 20 year old VW, and while I was there, I had a look around. Guess what? It says "Made in Mexico, Transmission from Argentine" on the info sheet in the side window. And the VIN starts with WVW anyway.
 
2007-10-02 02:32:56 PM
And I kinda meant to type "Guess what? I looked at a gun-metal gray Rabbit, and it says..."
 
2007-10-02 02:41:21 PM
xanadian:

Funny, that.

I had a '97 Mustang convertible that was the front car of a 3-car collision. I was "parked" on I-95 in Pompano Beach, FL (if you've ever driven I-95 in Southern Florida, you'll know why I say "parked"). Next thing I know, *BOOM!* I thought a bomb went off! I look behind to see a Ford Explorer bouncing around. What had happened is that the Explorer had stopped behind me, and an Elantra decided to ram into the ass-end of the Explorer. I thought for sure the ass-end of my car was all stove in. We pulled over to the side of the road (the 2 of us who could still move that is) and I got out to survey the damage.

Splayed paint on the bumper. That's all the damage I had. The Explorer didn't even have that. The Elantra, on the other hand, was all stove in.

I've stuck with Fords ever since. Ford Explorer...Ford van...now a Focus.


In my case I was waiting at a new light on what *had* been an expressway, evidently the Toyota behind me was also stopped, the Saturn behind him was slowing to a stop, and the idiot woman in the Taurus station wagon was doing 70MPH and talking on her cell phone.

I was sitting at the light reading when I heard "bang. BANG... BANG!!!" and felt the back end of the Caddy rise up a bit.

The Toyota behind me had submarined under my bumper, the engine caught, came up through the hood and was tilted up vertically. Any more and it would have ended up in the driver's lap. I watched the Saturn *try* to pull to the side and it looked like a tiger had ripped it's belly open, it was bleeding trans fluid and bits of metal. The Taurus wasn't moving anywhere, it was a piece of automotive origami.

After the police arrived and I gave a statement I tied the trunk down and drove home. Two months later I got rear-ended by a Volvo station wagon... Didn't even knock the dust off of the bumper, but I had to help push the destroyed Volvo off the road. I actually felt bad for the poor kid driving it, evidently he had it out without mom & dad's permission.

For a while I considered painting profiles of dead cars on the side with red X's through them like the Red Baron. I kept looking for the magnet in the poor car's trunk, but I never found that either.
 
2007-10-02 02:49:28 PM
Tom_Slick: I should have bought a civic instead of my Saturn in 1997. I probably would still have it. Who am I kidding? After 180,000 miles I am sick of any car.

I have a 1993 Nissan pickup, 104k miles. It's in the shop - the switch that detects whether or not the brake pedal is down keeps going out. Asked shop guy to pony up for an Official(tm) part this time. Other than that, a transmission @ 90k and I'll at least get another year or ten out of it.

Had a '76 CVCC. Last Honda I will ever buy - I did not realize the one of bolts holding the thermostat down also held the distributor in place. Oy.

// cars are nothing but rolling bubbles of depreciation
// rode the Nissan on a 1500 mile interstate journey in 2004
// want cruise control next time.
 
2007-10-02 02:52:57 PM
pureobscure:
I bought a brand new '06 Civic and sold it six months later due to the fact that it squeaked and rattled within weeks of buying it. So I personally won't buy another Honda.

But I do love Infiniti/Nissan.


Dude, what? Nissan is near the bottom of the import foodchain, quality wise.
 
2007-10-02 02:57:57 PM
Phins: Then we had some brake work done at Midas and two weeks later, the brakes failed and I went into a brick wall.

And this is VW's fault how?

Jetta '98. Going to roll 200k before thanksgiving. Runs fine.

I blew the engine in my previous one driving it a bit too hard. I think it had around 250k on it. (Odo broke).

The trick with VWs is do the work yourself. When I hear all these "$3000 job" I'm thinking it was probably a $4 part and a stupid dealership.

My "$1000+" timing belt cost me $300, and that's including the tools.
 
2007-10-02 02:58:23 PM
I've also got a 98 VW Beetle with 210,000 miles. Had a bunch of little problems early on and it's always had some electrical issues. Other than hitting a deer and having a rock from a rockslide go under the car, jam into the transmission and stop the car, haven't had any major mechanical problems with it.
 
2007-10-02 03:04:58 PM
JugbyRock: CLANQUE:There's a chance that car was built in Marysville, Ohio, by American workers (who belong to a union).

More than likely, even if it was built in Ohio, probably not a union shop. Japanese-owned auto assembly plants are for the most part not union. That's what makes the cars last longer. No drunks and drug addicts on the assembly line. And a work ethic that dictates pride in one's work, not just 'work 8 hours and go get drunker'.

Oh come on, Now tell us how you really feel !!
 
2007-10-02 03:05:35 PM
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Dude, what? Nissan is near the bottom of the import foodchain, quality wise.

Only since they and Renault started getting together. Older Nissans are just as solid as Toyotas or Hondas.
 
2007-10-02 03:32:26 PM
My first car was the wonderful gift (17th birthday) of a 1989 Saab 900 turbo. Got it with 185k on it, ran it to 230k before I blew the transmition. Was heading off to school then where I wouldn't need a car, so I ended up just donating it. Learned to drive stick on it so I wasn't too nice to it. Much love for that car.
 
2007-10-02 03:36:39 PM
www.firstshowing.net

/Vince approves.
 
2007-10-02 03:44:18 PM
ichnot: I had a '97 S-10 with a v6 and 5-speed that blew the first transmission at 20k with the second falling apart at around 80k.

My dad on the other hand has a '93 Dodge D150 that's got over 400k on it and it's a gas engine, not diesel. It's had a couple of transmissions put in it because it is a work truck, but it's still got the original engine and has only had a tune up maybe 3 times in it's life. They don't tune it up unless it's running so bad it won't pull the load they have in the back.


My brother had a '98 S-10, bought it used. Transmission blew after a month. Once he got it replaced, it was fine, but the guy at the shop said they always keep at least two of these transmissions on hand because the originals blow so often.

On the other hand, I've got a 2000 Monte Carlo SS with almost 100,000 miles on it that I bought used with only 40k on it in 2003. Only thing beyond regular maintenance I've done to that car is had the intermediete steering shaft replaced to get rid of some play in the wheel. Engine and transmission both run smooth as silk.

/love my car
 
2007-10-02 03:45:43 PM
40below: I put 300k on my 1986 CRX and loved the car. Only gave it up when I got a flat, tried to jack it up and and the jack went through the floorboards there was that much rust from Canadian winters. Still got $1,500 for the thing from a guy who was going to part it out. Great, great car.

Dude, you are suppose to put the jack under the frame--not the floor board.

/wish I had a "you'r doing it wrong" picture.
 
2007-10-02 03:53:55 PM
Now...my little brother drives this. Much better milage than the S-10, and a custom $30 redneck paintjob done by us!

home.comcast.net
 
2007-10-02 04:01:01 PM
Gotta Love the Volvo High mileage Club
1966 1800S Miles: 2474221
1979 245G Diesel Miles: 1628780
And the list goes on.

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/miles.shtml
 
2007-10-02 04:25:12 PM
40below: Only gave it up when I got a flat, tried to jack it up and and the jack went through the floorboards there was that much rust from Canadian winters.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2007-10-02 04:29:14 PM
The moon is about 250,000 miles away.

That car could have almost driven to the moon and back -- twice.

Which means it has almost certainly traveled further than the Apollo spacecraft.

Holy crap.
 
2007-10-02 04:33:45 PM
I had an '82 Olds Delta 88, got 300K out of that car. My roommates at the time had two cars, 78 Monte Carlo, and a 78 Mercury Cougar, both with over 300K.
 
2007-10-02 04:34:47 PM
I too, coincidentally, drive a '95 Civic. But mine only has 168K on it. I just replaced the brakes for the first time, and they still weren't down to the wear indicators. That plus the requirement timing belt swap at 90K are the only work I've done on it other than tires and mufflers (which are consumables on Hondas). Twelve years of salt are starting to take their toll on the body; I'm pretty sure it'll rust through long before the engine gives me any trouble at all.

/got a Datsun up to 268K years ago, but thankfully don't drive that much any more
//rural commute is 12 miles, nice drive
 
2007-10-02 04:46:09 PM
Yeah. I didn't RTFA. Doh. :)

I've seen two Accords go through three automatic transmissions with less than 70k miles on them...

But the one in TFA is a standard, so it sucks less.
 
2007-10-02 04:46:15 PM
Cuyose: So the timing belt and water pump fail every 100K miles and the clutch needs replacing every 240K miles?

How is this some testament to a superbly engineered machine?


You don't get the timing belt changed when it fails, you get it changed before it fails. If you let it fail, there's a nonzero probability it will kill your engine. Honda recommends a timing belt change at 120K for a 2002 Civic.

You get the water pump changed because doing that when you're changing the timing belt is pretty much trivial and cheap because the engine is apart anyway, and labor is where all the money goes.
 
2007-10-02 05:05:19 PM
Kar98: Insertwitty Namehere: Before buying a VW always look at the VIN, if it does not begin with the letter W run away.

Phucers! I went to the VW dealership the other day to pick up a penny part for my 20 year old VW, and while I was there, I had a look around. Guess what? It says "Made in Mexico, Transmission from Argentine" on the info sheet in the side window. And the VIN starts with WVW anyway.


Just gave a friend of mine who works at the local VW a call and you are right. VW has started to use the WVW for all/most of their new cars. Because VW of Mexico, VW of Brazil, etc. are branches of VW proper they can legally use the German Manufacturers code. However, if you look at the 11th digit of the VIN, right before the serial number, modern German made VWs will have a W. They cannot legally do anything to get around that.

I hadn't noticed that VW had changed its policy. When I bought the new GTI it had the WVW prefix and 75% of its parts, including the engine and tranny where manufactured and assembled in Germany so I figured the VIN labeling was the same.
 
2007-10-02 05:13:09 PM
Kanyon: Suck it, Detroit.

I'm getting a kick out of this because I work for Detroit automaker.

/The company is Volkswagen/Audi
//Really, American HQ is in Detroit (Auburn Hills, next to Chrysler)
///until they finish moving 4/10 of it to Virgina (by Washington DC)...
 
2007-10-02 06:19:41 PM
Just because its built in Germany, doesn't mean its not going to be plagued with the same bullshiat German over-engineering problems that the ones in Mexico are. I had a friend down south that did nothing but tune VW's for show and autocross and he used to laugh at people obsessing like this when they started building shiat in Mexico. Its the same goddamned blueprints. The same shiat will break in about the same way, no matter where its built, care and feeding will help relieve this.

I mean, c'mon now..
 
2007-10-02 06:22:03 PM
It's stunning how many people who clearly know NOTHING about cars posted their 'expert' comments in this thread.

Thanks, it made for great reading. No go out and try to figure out how to put air in your tires.
 
2007-10-02 06:56:11 PM
OK, here's my $.02 for the anti-Detroit crowd...

96 Plymouth Breeze, I paid $2900 for it with 109,000 miles on the odometer in 2003. I commute to work at least 5 days a week, a 100 mile round trip. Mostly I just check the oil to make sure there is some in there. I (usually) get the oil changed at 3000 miles. I tend not to drive any faster than 65 mph on the interstate because I expect it to pull a Bluesmobile on me at any time.

It's now a little over 238,000 but since summer's over and I can't ride my Shadow Spirit to work much longer, I will be adding more mileage soon...
 
2007-10-02 07:33:44 PM
According to a recent Ford Motor Company press release, R.L. Polk & Co. confirmed there are four times as many Ford E-Series full-size vans on the road with at least 250,000 miles than any competitor's van. This includes a 1991 E-Series van operated by the HealthSouth Rehabilitation Hospital in Kingsport, Tenn., which has approximately 950,000 miles and is still being used to transport wheelchair patients. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/306842/more_ford_eseries_vans_have_2500 00.html

and that's a van.
 
2007-10-02 07:40:19 PM
sh0x: I call bull. There's no way a 97 Explorer can go 350k with only a timing belt. No car can do that.
----------------------------

I call "bull" simply on the fact that Explorers don't HAVE timing belts. They have timing chains. And if his has the overhead cam engine, the 2 timing chains on it have been replaced at LEAST 2 times in that time- they have a known design defect that causes them to break prematurely.


As to those saying a gas engine can't go that long without blowing,but a diesel can, simply based on what they've seen... consider this. A diesel OTR truck is driven primarily on the highway as constant speed. That's not hard on an engine at all. THAT is why diesels, on average, last longer. Has very little to do with what fuel is used. This Civic has also been driven on the highway most of the time. Again, very easy on an engine.

And the guy who said that if you maintain a car well, it will last forever, except Kias... no, even Kias will last forever if maintained. The problem is that most people who bought Kias during their first 5-7 years in the US (mostly Kia Sephias) DIDN'T maintain them. Most really cheap cars don't get maintained, because the people who buy them can't afford to do so, as they overextended themselves buying a new car when they ought to have bought a 4 year old used car. The old Kia Sephias, made from 1994 to 2001, as well as the Spectra from 2001 to 2003, had a 1.6 or a 1.8L Mazda engine in them. This was more or less the same engine used in the Protege until 1994, and the Miata from its birth until the mid 90s. It's a really good engine... but they don't last as long in Kias because the owners didn't take care of them at all.
 
2007-10-02 08:12:08 PM
MrSteve007: Brother's '02 Chrysler van - 45k miles, new auto transmission, replaced computer, broken down many times.

my mom has an '02 Town & Country, she had the EXACT same problems. computer was replaced twice, air conditioning lines were replaced, new tranny, and just last week the steering wheel lock decided to randomly lock itself while she was filling up her gas.
 
2007-10-02 08:33:16 PM
i11.photobucket.com

My 73 Stang has 130+k.

New engine at 129,500.

For sale if anyone in the ATL is interested.
 
2007-10-02 09:16:26 PM
When I was kid, my Dad had a 1976 Toyota Corrolla. It hit 250k, and he decided it was time to get a new car, but not until the Yota was completely dead. He quit changing the oil, adding water to the radiator, all of it. Started beating the hell out of it, too. We had a long dirt driveway, and we used to jump the hills with it. It still made it to 330k before it punched a rod through the side of the block. It had been out of oil for around 2 months.
 
2007-10-02 09:36:18 PM
Made a deal with the wife that once my current car dies, I will get an Acura TL or some other japanese sedan with some kickassness to it.

Unfortunately, current car is 2001 Honda Civic and it is the greatest car I have ever had. 200k miles, runs like a top. Not one thing has ever broken on it - nothing.
 
2007-10-02 09:40:03 PM
Hey Titts where are you listing the car?
 
2007-10-02 09:43:22 PM
i had a 2000 honda accord se with 160k that I only ever had one $20 repair for - but I was rear ended by an uninsured motorist that totalled it. Ironically the day before my wife had just had a conversion about it. I told her I didn't want to even consider a new car until it got 300k.

So I bought a 1999 with only 50k miles on it.
 
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