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2007-09-28 04:55:01 AM
If the government weren't such a bunch of lightweights they'd just ban smoking outright.

Under my rules it would be legal to own and smoke them in your own home, illegal to sell them. Yes, there'd be a black market but the consumer wouldn't be penalised for partaking.

The one thing that stops me from quitting is being constantly within 5 mins of somewhere I can procure more from.

That, plus I really like smoking.

Going to miss smoking in the car when this guideline becomes law. Which it will.

/just farking ban it already
//oh wait, the taxes pay for the NHS
///which smokers then aren't allowed to use
////arse
 
2007-09-28 04:55:02 AM
somemoron: dalmo: Jesus, what have people got against good advice?

'Good advice'? FTFA:

Drivers who smoke at the wheel could face prosecution under changes to the Highway Code.


It's a scare article, so add a large pinch of salt. Contrary to the Fark headline, a small change to the highway code does not mean that smoking behind the wheel is being made illegal.
 
2007-09-28 04:58:22 AM
Walkenstein: Tenebreux: Cars aren't for smoking in. They're for driving places. Anything that diverts from your ability to drive a vehicle makes you a risk to yourself and other users of the road.

Why is it always Smokers who insist on being allowed to put other people in harms way (blowing carcinogenic smoke around non-smokers, driving a car without full control), then whine that they think they should have a right to do that?
while I agree with you somewhat, why is it that people like you are quicker to go after smokers than other people that contribute to the death of others (including yourself) much faster and in larger amounts?



like corporations for example


also


the second-hand smoke from modern cigarettes is that much more dangerous to people because of what they put into the cigarettes



do you know who helps kill you more than cig smokers more and more each day?


plastics industry, dupont, bayer, Monsanto, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc


society is so dumb that they are easily conditioned to turn their heads from the real and bigger threats and onto the smaller ones


time and farking time again history repeating itself over and over and over and over and over



when will people ever cease these pathetic ways of theirs?


It's called death. Once we're all dead, we'll stop being so retarded.
 
2007-09-28 04:58:52 AM
My smoking story: So I'm driving down 680 here in sunny northern California and like the ass I was at the time I threw my cigarette outside. Next thing I know my jackets smoking in the back seat. The cigarette had gone out the front window and back in the back window where it lit my jacket on fire after a bit, which serves me right. So i grab my jacket and not really knowing what to do I hold it out the sun roof. This only makes it worse ass the blast of oxygen gets the flames really going. At this moment I see this other driver parallel to me just staring at me, mouth open (never forget that moment in all its absurdity.) Now I could just throw the flaming jacket onto the freeway but I'm not really sure if my wallets in there and everything is happening really fast, Luckily I have a biggie sized soda so i throw the jacket down on the passenger side floor and douse it with the whole cup of soda. The whole thing was seriously something out of a movie.
 
2007-09-28 05:00:19 AM
Howie_Feltersnatch: Are you smoking while Farking?

Yep, I'm out of lube.

Apologies mkfreeberg, not fully awake. I'll take that dunce cap for myself.
 
2007-09-28 05:03:34 AM
TheAfterbirthTycoon: My smoking story: So I'm driving down 680 here in sunny northern California and like the ass I was at the time I threw my cigarette outside. Next thing I know my jackets smoking in the back seat. The cigarette had gone out the front window and back in the back window where it lit my jacket on fire after a bit, which serves me right.

That happened to my brother when he was the passenger being taken out for a spin in our nextdoor neighbour's new car. Except there was no jacket to protect the brand new back seat from being set alight when his cigarette landed on it. He wasn't very popular.
 
2007-09-28 05:08:41 AM
binnster: He wasn't very popular.

lol I can imagine. My jacket was done for so I'm sure that seat wasn't looking so hot.
 
2007-09-28 05:10:48 AM
pbrews: Didn't *anybody* RTFA?


It's pretty much impossible if you want to make the first 20 comments.
 
2007-09-28 05:11:29 AM
Nice inflammatory headline, Subby:

FTFA: Lighting-up at the wheel has been added to the list of "distractions" which police and lawyers can cite in court when seeking a conviction for a traffic offence.

In other words, you aren't just arrested for having a cigarette! Rather, it has become admissible as contributory factor to the negligence of the driver when they are already on a dangerous driving charge.

Reading Comprehension. Try it. Get more out of your Fark experience
 
2007-09-28 05:14:54 AM
AaaPha - Seriously, if you're going to add to a debate, jumping up and down and shouting "I'm a moron, I am, in fact, a moron" is not the way to go.

Beautiful.
 
2007-09-28 05:41:39 AM
mikejamesss: /remember kids...can't spell "patriot" without riot.

patriot = O,it trap!
 
2007-09-28 05:57:10 AM
Does anyone remember that story about the woman the police tried to prosecute for eating an apple whilst driving that apparently involved spending lots of money and helicopters?

If it's only advisory, why did the police go to such lengths with this woman?
 
2007-09-28 06:02:10 AM
I can understand the law stepping in and making it illegal to smoke with kids in the car-- the kids have no choice in the matter. Same thing with seat belts-- it should be (and is, I think) mandatory to strap the kid in.

That said, I'm an adult. If I don't want to wear a seat belt I shouldn't have to. If I am talking on a cell phone but otherwise not breaking any traffic laws, leave me alone. If I don't want to wear a freaking helmet while riding a motorcycle, what's it to you? I have health insurance, so nobody's taxes will go into my medical bills if I crash.

Why don't they just make Nerf cars to drive on marshmallow highways already?
 
2007-09-28 06:23:58 AM
I'd like to see the statistics showing accidents caused by smoking...

They'll have us all wearing helmets within five years.

Sheep.
 
2007-09-28 06:30:31 AM
Wise_Guy: f I am talking on a cell phone but otherwise not breaking any traffic laws, leave me alone.

Everything else, fine you want to reduce your chances of survival, go right ahead. This, though, is driving without due care and attention, ans is liable to get someone else killed.
 
2007-09-28 06:46:05 AM
DuncanMhor: Everything else, fine you want to reduce your chances of survival, go right ahead. This, though, is driving without due care and attention, ans is liable to get someone else killed.

It is not illegal to talk on the phone while driving. It is not illegal to dial a phone while driving. It is only illegal to hold one against your head while driving.
 
2007-09-28 06:59:20 AM
Wise_Guy: It is not illegal to talk on the phone while driving. It is not illegal to dial a phone while driving. It is only illegal to hold one against your head while driving.

And you said talking on a cell phone, you need to hold a cell phone to talk on it. If you're using a handsfree kit or equivalent, you're golden.
 
2007-09-28 07:07:01 AM
How many more laws are needed until there doesn't need to be anymore? When does Utopia start?
 
2007-09-28 07:08:49 AM
DuncanMhor: And you said talking on a cell phone, you need to hold a cell phone to talk on it. If you're using a handsfree kit or equivalent, you're golden.

Why is it any more distracting to hold the phone while talking than it is to use one hands-free? Is it more distracting to have your hand next to your head?

BTW, don't get me wrong-- I've seen many people who drive like idiots while talking on the phone. What I'm saying is, don't ticket me for talking on the phone if I'm driving normally otherwise.
 
2007-09-28 07:13:28 AM
How about orally stimulating the driver's genital area?
 
2007-09-28 07:13:34 AM
Wise_Guy: Why is it any more distracting to hold the phone while talking than it is to use one hands-free? Is it more distracting to have your hand next to your head?

I'd say it certainly screws with your reaction times more. It might make less of an impact in countries where automatic cars are the norm, but in the UK at least, Not having use of both hands is a major detriment to your driving ability
 
2007-09-28 07:14:28 AM
rrtt22: How many more laws are needed until there doesn't need to be anymore? When does Utopia start?

It is not a law. This was not the article you were looking for.
 
2007-09-28 07:33:50 AM
FTA: It joins eating and drinking, "inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio", "arguing with your passengers or other road users", trying to read maps, and - even playing loud music - most, if not all, of which have featured in successful prosecutions.


Catch me if you can, mate.
 
2007-09-28 07:39:13 AM
This is not surprising... but it is over the top.
Sneezing, yawning and scratching that itch (behind the ear) are all distractions. The police would have to prove undue care and attention. So the video evidence would be required.
If I get stopped... I'll let the twunts take me to court.
 
2007-09-28 07:40:54 AM
www.yesalbum.com
 
2007-09-28 07:41:48 AM
so I guess a bj is out of the question? *sigh*

they didn't list bj's nor jerking off while driving as things you couldn't do, so i think it's fair game. you could probably also do lines off a hooker's tits while she mounts you since that didn't seem to be mentioned either. stuffing your fat face or drinking a soda did however make the list.
 
2007-09-28 07:44:45 AM
dalmo 2007-09-28 03:01:24 AM
Epsilon: Christ almighty, they're becoming worse than the US. I can sort of understand the law against using your cell phone while driving, but now you're not allowed to eat a sandwich or have a smoke in your car?

Are you (or were you) a smoker? Hand on your heart, if you can say you have never been distracted by a smoke (ash flies in your face, dropped it, take both hands off the wheel to light it) then I'll say you've probably never smoked in your life.

Besides, it's not illegal. Its an advisory that it could distract you. It goes on to list many things that will also distract you - loud music, screaming kids, eating, that sort of thing.

Jesus, what have people got against good advice?


I smoked between the age of 8 ~ 45. My first driving experience was at the age of 10. I can say with out a doubt that smoking had zero impact to my driving skills. No ash in the eye, no dropped smoke while driving, etc.

I no longer smoke, but I find the Nanny-ness of the government getting to the point they may dictate when we can pee. Lord knows, that could also be a distration while driving.

Which of you are willing to accept the governmment dictating when you pee?
 
2007-09-28 07:45:40 AM
Wise_Guy: BTW, don't get me wrong-- I've seen many people who drive like idiots while talking on the phone. What I'm saying is, don't ticket me for talking on the phone if I'm driving normally otherwise.

See, this is the problem. You think you're some kind of super driving-type person and everyone else is the idiot. News flash, you as much the idiot driving talking on his phone as the next guy. And even if you somehow are the 1 in a million exception, too farking bad. Everyone else ruined it for you.

You have insurance but the rate you pay are due to how much it costs to pay out. More and more accidents will cause everyones rates to go up. In Countries that have social medicine, everyone pays taxes to support your accidents. The states have statistics that show the reasons for accidents and injuries. When the numbers start showing glaring warning signs, new laws, or at least public advisories are a a good thing.

/seat belts save lives so buckle up
 
2007-09-28 07:48:30 AM
thank goodness for plate tectonics.
 
2007-09-28 07:50:04 AM
FTA:

High-profile cases have involved motorists eating apples, Kit-Kats and sausage rolls.

My mistress has chowed down on my sausage roll a few times while I've been driving. Now that's a major distraction.
 
2007-09-28 07:55:28 AM
it's just a symptom anyway, one that points to the fact that people spend so much time (and too much time) in their cars that they become mobile homes.

nomads. the lot uf us.
 
2007-09-28 07:56:06 AM
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2007-09-28 07:59:53 AM
Only one in 20 accidents are caused by drivers breaking the speed limit, Government figures showed yesterday.

COOL! Lets all speed on the way home and prevent some accidents, unlike those slow driving SOBs that won't get out of our way.
 
2007-09-28 08:00:30 AM
dalmo: Epsilon: Christ almighty, they're becoming worse than the US. I can sort of understand the law against using your cell phone while driving, but now you're not allowed to eat a sandwich or have a smoke in your car?

Are you (or were you) a smoker? Hand on your heart, if you can say you have never been distracted by a smoke (ash flies in your face, dropped it, take both hands off the wheel to light it) then I'll say you've probably never smoked in your life.

Besides, it's not illegal. Its an advisory that it could distract you. It goes on to list many things that will also distract you - loud music, screaming kids, eating, that sort of thing.

Jesus, what have people got against good advice?


"Advice": You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
 
2007-09-28 08:15:27 AM
FarkinNortherner: using both hands to set fire to something while driving.

Both hands? What, do I need to shield the flame from the imaginary wind or something?
 
2007-09-28 08:17:41 AM
swaxhog: And even if you somehow are the 1 in a million exception, too farking bad. Everyone else ruined it for you.

Exactly. We should punish people for the misdeeds of others. You're not an adult, you're a child and you should be treated as such.
 
2007-09-28 08:18:43 AM
FTA:
> Lighting-up at the wheel has been added to the list of
> "distractions" which police and lawyers can cite in
> court when seeking a conviction for a traffic offence.

Fark Me Runnin: "Advice": You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Looks like it means, if police think they've caught you in a moving violation (something actually "illegal"), it's even worse if they also catch you in a "distraction" at the same time.
 
2007-09-28 08:24:26 AM
Some of them should leave and form a new country.

/oh wait..

//Actually we're not that far from needing a govt enema ourselves


4567%^&*%^*&NO CARRIER
 
2007-09-28 08:25:48 AM
First off, this is NOT illegal. Did any of you actually read the article?

Second, i use to smoke, and i never smoke while driving. Why? BECAUSE I NEVER WANTED TO STINK UP THE CAR. Can you smokers really not go for an hour without a smoke?

Third, it hasn't been made illegal. It's just one of many conditions they can cite now in case you do get in an accident. Makes sense to me, because i've seen people swerve while trying to light a smoke (can't you actually wait to do it at a red light?), or when ash falls been their thighs.
 
2007-09-28 08:26:32 AM
Fark 'em,I'll hit my bong when and wherever I please.
 
2007-09-28 08:28:30 AM
rrtt22: How many more laws are needed until there doesn't need to be anymore? When does Utopia start?

As soon as crime slows down, that's the indication that you need to make more criminals, so you need to outlaw more things.

The west is moving to a two-class society: prisoners and guards.
 
2007-09-28 08:30:08 AM
Cigarettes wouldn't be up there inthe list if people were simply honest.

"Yes sir, officer sir, I didn't see him coming cos I was jacking off that very instant."
 
2007-09-28 08:35:32 AM
How about orally stimulating the driver's genital area?

I hear it makes you Thinner.
 
2007-09-28 08:39:53 AM
FTFA *shrug* 1 in 20 accidents are caused by people going over the speed limit. so 19 out of 20 are going the speed limit. Obviously they should leave smoking alone and encourage people to speed.
 
2007-09-28 08:46:36 AM
Githerax: Good. Pigs.

My sentiments as well. I hate being behind a pig smoker when I'm on my bike.
 
2007-09-28 08:56:57 AM
Ooh... automatic jail for those jackasses who toss their butts out the window?
 
2007-09-28 08:58:18 AM
i158.photobucket.com
 
2007-09-28 09:01:25 AM
They'll be after gum chewing next.
 
2007-09-28 09:06:17 AM
Um... didn't we Yanks fight a war with them over this?
"Individual liberties" or some such.
/Just sayin'
//Pays sales tax on his newspaper
 
2007-09-28 09:08:53 AM
This is nothing. A town here in CT just banned smoking at a public park. I just don't get it.
 
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