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2007-09-27 09:18:54 PM
And this is sad because...?

According to the article, it is part of a trend that also bars cell phone use, eating and drinking while driving.

Damn those people who want us to pay attention to the road when driving!
 
2007-09-27 09:20:12 PM
Suck it, smokers. Or, in this case, don't.

/x
 
2007-09-27 09:22:51 PM
WTF happened to the British Empire?

Did you all go Prince Charles on us?
 
2007-09-27 09:23:16 PM
It's also illegal to smoke in the car (if there are children present) in that liberal bastion state, Arkansas.
 
2007-09-27 10:29:44 PM
Yeah, that'll be enforced fully.
 
2007-09-27 10:30:42 PM
Nothing about road head though, right?
 
2007-09-27 10:50:42 PM
hillbillypharmacist: It's also illegal to smoke in the car (if there are children present) in that liberal bastion state, Arkansas.

Huckabee. The same idiot that had every public school student in the stated weighed and measured for the (medically meaningless) BMI, and made the school stamp it on the report card. Don't think "red states" are somehow immune from the "nanny state" phenomenon.

Though I can attest to the fact that that law isn't even remotely enforced.
 
2007-09-27 11:02:53 PM
If only they had Yankee ingenuity, they'd have cool, smooth, satisfying Marlboro smoke blowing from the air conditioner.
 
2007-09-27 11:14:46 PM
As a non-smoker, I'd like to cast a curse of death on the nanny-state biddy's.

May you die of lung cancer in a non-smoking environment. Ooga-booga-booga!!!

Never thought I'd see the day non-smokers became such nancy's.
 
2007-09-27 11:24:53 PM
sarty: Damn those people who want us to pay attention to the road when driving!

Oh cool it's sarcasm. Hey, my side can use that too.

What's up with that grabbing the shift knob and changing gears while driving? You could kill someone! We need to have fines when you turn on the windshield wipers. If it starts raining, tough -- you should pull over to the side of the road first. And for cryin' out loud, can't you make up your mind whether your headlights are on or not before you start out on your trip? Enough is enough, I say.

/Opposes the nanny state
//But approves of hands-free device laws; the cell-phone to face thing has gotten way out of hand
 
2007-09-28 01:17:39 AM
Christ almighty, they're becoming worse than the US. I can sort of understand the law against using your cell phone while driving, but now you're not allowed to eat a sandwich or have a smoke in your car?
 
2007-09-28 02:00:45 AM
tbn0.google.com

Progess happens.
 
2007-09-28 02:17:52 AM
Can they make some sort of hand free cigarette handset?
 
2007-09-28 03:01:24 AM
Epsilon: Christ almighty, they're becoming worse than the US. I can sort of understand the law against using your cell phone while driving, but now you're not allowed to eat a sandwich or have a smoke in your car?

Are you (or were you) a smoker? Hand on your heart, if you can say you have never been distracted by a smoke (ash flies in your face, dropped it, take both hands off the wheel to light it) then I'll say you've probably never smoked in your life.

Besides, it's not illegal. Its an advisory that it could distract you. It goes on to list many things that will also distract you - loud music, screaming kids, eating, that sort of thing.

Jesus, what have people got against good advice?
 
2007-09-28 03:30:03 AM
dalmo: Jesus, what have people got against good advice?

'Good advice'? FTFA:

Drivers who smoke at the wheel could face prosecution under changes to the Highway Code.
 
2007-09-28 03:30:57 AM
Didn't *anybody* RTFA?

It's not illegal. It's simply been added to the list of "distractions" that could count against you in court if you're prosecuted for causing an accident.
 
2007-09-28 03:35:29 AM
I don't see the problem. Nobody should be driving with a big fag in their mouth. Too distracting.
 
2007-09-28 03:35:29 AM
Good. Pigs.
 
2007-09-28 03:36:29 AM
CowboyNinjaD: Nothing about road head though, right?

Is it illegal to fark in your car while parked there?
 
2007-09-28 03:37:32 AM
so I guess a bj is out of the question? *sigh*

\rimshot
 
2007-09-28 03:38:57 AM
The roads would be a safer place if we just banned driving.
 
2007-09-28 03:40:34 AM
MasterPython: Is it illegal to fark in your car while parked there?

I'm in a lot of trouble if it is.
 
2007-09-28 03:41:53 AM
pbrews: It's not illegal. It's simply been added to the list of "distractions" that could count against you in court if you're prosecuted for causing an accident.

This.

Mate of mine, back in '91, was driving down a 50 MPH dual-carriageway (cute name for a road eh Yanks?) having a fag (ehh, not so much...) with the window rolled down. Freak moment of chance, the burning end of the cigarette blew off and hit him in the eye. One massive collision later he was upside down with petrol leaking around him, thinking "Ok, I guess that's it."

He got cut out, and after a few months he was walking just fine again. No so lucky for the guy in the other car, who died en route to the hospital. Now, I'm no great believer in passive-smoking, but this was one case of a guy's habit seriously impacting someone else's health.

So yeah, I'm ok with this.
 
2007-09-28 03:43:25 AM
pbrews: Didn't *anybody* RTFA?

It's not a popular approach before letting your knee jerk.

It's not illegal. It's simply been added to the list of "distractions" that could count against you in court if you're prosecuted for causing an accident.

Exactly. It was an anachronism that smoking wasn't one of the distractions.

mkfreeberg: What's up with that grabbing the shift knob and changing gears while driving? You could kill someone! We need to have fines when you turn on the windshield wipers. If it starts raining, tough -- you should pull over to the side of the road first. And for cryin' out loud, can't you make up your mind whether your headlights are on or not before you start out on your trip? Enough is enough, I say.

Yes, the normal processes of driving, for which the driver has been trained, are entirely comparable with unnecessarily using both hands to set fire to something while driving.

I can't really see a problem with lighting a cigarette then getting into the car, but seeing someone roll up a cigarette while driving with their elbows is...alarming.
 
2007-09-28 03:45:51 AM
..........until someone you care about is killed in a car accident with the other driver having had something in their hand at the time...............
 
2007-09-28 03:48:32 AM
My wife was killed by a driver who was once distracted by a cigarette. He shot her, cut her face off, and wore it like a mask.
 
2007-09-28 03:48:43 AM
I light up before I even start the engine. Don't light while I'm moving, either. Ashtray is right under the stereo, so I don't have to look at it. I am no more distracted by smoking in my car than by hot jogger chicks. Actually, I'm more distracted by hot jogger chicks.

Get them off our streets!

Or not.

AaaPha:
Mate of mine, back in '91, was driving down a 50 MPH dual-carriageway (cute name for a road eh Yanks?) having a fag (ehh, not so much...) with the window rolled down. Freak moment of chance, the burning end of the cigarette blew off and hit him in the eye. One massive collision later he was upside down with petrol leaking around him, thinking "Ok, I guess that's it."

I've been hit in the eye by a mosquito. That sucked.
 
2007-09-28 03:49:55 AM
I love the Brit farkers chiming in to support this crap. Pretty soon (5 years?) every car in the UK will have multiple cameras monitoring the driver to provide the insurance companies with sufficient proof that the driver was wide awake, had both hands on the wheel and was chanting the state required mantra "I will comply" at least 5 times per hour.

Not to mention that if you deviate from your state approved driving route slightly you will be considered a terrorist threat and your car will shut off automatically. Then you will be shipped to Norway where you will be interrogated and have Habanero peppers inserted in your butt until you confess.

WTF people??? Why are you so docile?

...oh, I'm sorry. It's for your own good right?
 
2007-09-28 03:50:41 AM
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2007-09-28 03:54:31 AM
Cars aren't for smoking in. They're for driving places. Anything that diverts from your ability to drive a vehicle makes you a risk to yourself and other users of the road.

Why is it always Smokers who insist on being allowed to put other people in harms way (blowing carcinogenic smoke around non-smokers, driving a car without full control), then whine that they think they should have a right to do that?
 
2007-09-28 03:55:51 AM
I really don't know what the fuss is all about. Its always fallen under driving without due care and attention. This law is just making sure it sticks better.
 
2007-09-28 03:57:41 AM
I'm typing this on my web-enabled phone whilst driving down the M4, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2007-09-28 04:01:24 AM
"Non-smokers die, every day. Sleep tight."

I want to run over half the people in this thread, while smoking, but clearly focused on the sound of your screaming, waiting for the delightful crunch of bones as your pasty backside slips quickly beneath tires.

/non-smoking, still asshole
 
2007-09-28 04:02:36 AM
Epsilon: Christ almighty, they're becoming worse than the US. I can sort of understand the law against using your cell phone while driving, but now you're not allowed to eat a sandwich or have a smoke in your car?

A full plate of bacon and eggs on the way to the work is just fine though.

Actually my first car used to belong to a guy who couldn't use his left arm. This being the U.K. meaning he couldn't use the stick. So it was an automatic car with a knob on the steering wheel so you could operate it with one arm and all of the stem controls (headlights, indicators etc.) were on the right.

It was damned useful to be able to drive around perfectly capably using one hand whilst clutching a Mc Muffin in the other.
 
2007-09-28 04:04:08 AM
I don't have a problem with smokers smoking in a car. I do have a problem with all of the smoker litterbugs who throw their cigarette butts out the window.
 
2007-09-28 04:05:33 AM
Tenebreux: Cars aren't for smoking in. They're for driving places. Anything that diverts from your ability to drive a vehicle makes you a risk to yourself and other users of the road.

Why is it always Smokers who insist on being allowed to put other people in harms way (blowing carcinogenic smoke around non-smokers, driving a car without full control), then whine that they think they should have a right to do that?

while I agree with you somewhat, why is it that people like you are quicker to go after smokers than other people that contribute to the death of others (including yourself) much faster and in larger amounts?



like corporations for example


also


the second-hand smoke from modern cigarettes is that much more dangerous to people because of what they put into the cigarettes



do you know who helps kill you more than cig smokers more and more each day?


plastics industry, dupont, bayer, Monsanto, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc


society is so dumb that they are easily conditioned to turn their heads from the real and bigger threats and onto the smaller ones


time and farking time again history repeating itself over and over and over and over and over



when will people ever cease these pathetic ways of theirs?
 
2007-09-28 04:05:48 AM
Using the phrase "nanny state" is a strong indicator for the speaker/writer being a complete idiot.
 
2007-09-28 04:09:46 AM
Walkenstein

mypetjawa.mu.nu

Don't worry man. They'll get it when they go to college.


I need more weed...
 
2007-09-28 04:14:33 AM
Pshh... I've been smoking since before I started driving. Smoking for me while driving, shifting, using the wipers, checking the mirror, all of that - it's completely natural and non-distracting. But I find drivers with cell phones (myself occasionally included) can't (or won't) turn their heads to shoulder-check, and after hanging up, don't you find sometimes you can't remember the road very well for the last 10 minutes? You've got half your brain sitting with the person on the other end of the line.

Drivers with cell phones have scared the hell out of me many times, and it's only a matter of time before handsets are outlawed while driving anywhere.

BTW,just because you don't smoke, you don't HAVE to be a self-righteous prick about it.
 
2007-09-28 04:18:02 AM
HeliumAddict: I love the Brit farkers chiming in to support this crap. Pretty soon (5 years?) every car in the UK will have multiple cameras monitoring the driver to provide the insurance companies with sufficient proof that the driver was wide awake, had both hands on the wheel and was chanting the state required mantra "I will comply" at least 5 times per hour.

Not to mention that if you deviate from your state approved driving route slightly you will be considered a terrorist threat and your car will shut off automatically. Then you will be shipped to Norway where you will be interrogated and have Habanero peppers inserted in your butt until you confess.

WTF people??? Why are you so docile?

...oh, I'm sorry. It's for your own good right?


Seriously, if you're going to add to a debate, jumping up and down and shouting "I'm a moron, I am, in fact, a moron" is not the way to go. Just FYI. Because you can't seriously believe any of that.

Anyway, it's not a law, it's something that'll count against you if you screw up. I thought Transatlantics were all about taking responsibility for things? You distract yourself while driving? Take responsibility. It's hardly worth marching on Whitehall over.
 
2007-09-28 04:21:36 AM
No way. Lighting up behind the wheel is one of the few ways I can actually cope with all the batshiat crazy OUTA MY WAY farktards that threaten my life on a twice-daily basis, especially here in San Jose. Good luck with that you guys.

/yes I use my ashtray, that's what it's there for
//fark your pet peeves
///amazing how many new cars don't come equipped with indicators, innit?
 
2007-09-28 04:22:42 AM
sarty: And this is sad because...?

According to the article, it is part of a trend that also bars cell phone use, eating and drinking while driving.

Damn those people who want us to pay attention to the road when driving!


Except whiny cat users apparently. Sucks being at home all the time doesn't it?

/Oh that's right, it's FRIday, not CATurday yet. Your day is coming.
 
2007-09-28 04:25:18 AM
Tenebreux: Why is it always Smokers who insist on being allowed to put other people in harms way (blowing carcinogenic smoke around non-smokers, driving a car without full control), then whine that they think they should have a right to do that?

Cause non-smokers never do this with other shiat? People love to biatch and moan about anything they can, doesn't matter who they are or what they do. Don't let your ardent anti-smoking stance blind you to the fact that people in general suck.
 
2007-09-28 04:30:58 AM
So in other words it's a cash cow for the authorities to write tickets.
 
2007-09-28 04:36:55 AM
mkfreeberg: What's up with that grabbing the shift knob and changing gears while driving? You could kill someone! We need to have fines when you turn on the windshield wipers. If it starts raining, tough -- you should pull over to the side of the road first. And for cryin' out loud, can't you make up your mind whether your headlights are on or not before you start out on your trip? Enough is enough, I say.

Yes, I'm in total agreement. Actions that are directly related to driving the car and which therefore focus the drivers attention more fully on what they are doing should be outlawed! Do you want your dunce cap now or later?
 
2007-09-28 04:39:24 AM
Wait, wait, wait....

Smoking is bad for you now?

Holy Crap!
 
2007-09-28 04:39:53 AM
i was distracted while driving, the other day, when a bee flew into my car. I had to duck out of the way while rolling all my windows down, and was likely a hazard to my fellow motorists.

Why does the government stand idly by while this scourge of bees jeopardizes life and limb on our streets and highways?

Something must be done!
 
2007-09-28 04:41:21 AM
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2007-09-28 04:44:14 AM
Haha...You people in London can't smoke or eat while your driving. Im so glad I live in America where we don't make stupid laws and create useful ones like the Patriot Act...oh wait...

/remember kids...can't spell "patriot" without riot.
 
2007-09-28 04:46:55 AM
The Envoy: mkfreeberg: What's up with that grabbing the shift knob and changing gears while driving? You could kill someone! We need to have fines when you turn on the windshield wipers. If it starts raining, tough -- you should pull over to the side of the road first. And for cryin' out loud, can't you make up your mind whether your headlights are on or not before you start out on your trip? Enough is enough, I say.

Yes, I'm in total agreement. Actions that are directly related to driving the car and which therefore focus the drivers attention more fully on what they are doing should be outlawed! Do you want your dunce cap now or later?


If you would have read what he typed earlier in his comment, you would have realized that he was responding sarcastically to someone else's sarcastic comment.

Is something distracting you?

Are you smoking while Farking?
 
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