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(Daily Mail)   New Mini Cooper will not be built in Britain, depriving a generation of car owners the chance to tell "So I was just going down the street when the driveshaft fell into the road and all the electrics quit" stories   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2007-09-27 09:15:04 PM  
Electrics? Is that like steam power?
 
2007-09-27 09:16:48 PM  
It'll now be made by Germany, so expect a rise of "So I was just going down the street in my F-150 when a Cooper sliced me in half right between the plates" stories.
 
2007-09-27 09:18:37 PM  
Yeah because British made Minis were such shiat, that must be why you still see old Morris and Austins on the road all the time.
 
2007-09-27 09:19:08 PM  
off road....

mini cooper...

off road mini cooper?

no. not allowed. reality denied.
 
2007-09-27 09:19:32 PM  
I'm almost sure if your driveshaft fell in the street while you were driving, you could get your money back somehow.
 
2007-09-27 09:19:44 PM  
fark a cooper.

polski fiat maluch is sooo much cooler, and only 400 dollars for a 2000 model in perfect condition anywhere in poland.

www.leblogauto.com
 
2007-09-27 09:20:01 PM  
I Like Bread: It'll now be made by Germany, so expect a rise of "So I was just going down the street in my F-150 when a Cooper sliced me in half right between the plates" stories.

Germany? I figured it would involve incineration?

You know who else liked...
 
2007-09-27 09:21:26 PM  
I must admit that the Bosch electrical systems are much better at keeping the smoke inside than the old Lucas ones.
 
2007-09-27 09:21:28 PM  
I Like Bread: It'll now be made by Germany, so expect a rise of "So I was just going down the street in my F-150 when a Cooper sliced me in half right between the plates" stories.

Makes sense it would now be made in Germany since Mini is a subsidiary of BMW.
 
2007-09-27 09:23:16 PM  
Who the heck buys a mini and gets the idea they want to take it off road? Get a flippin' Jeep CJ or something similar.
 
2007-09-27 09:24:51 PM  
logruszed: Yeah because British made Minis were such shiat, that must be why you still see old Morris and Austins on the road all the time.

If you don't understand the references to Lucas electrics, perhaps you should refrain from making snippy comments. Most British cars have that them common, which is why they're so much fun to drive at the speed of dark.
 
2007-09-27 09:25:06 PM  
Ahhh, memories of my first car...a Sterling 825SL. The electronics in that car were SHIAT. I remember we had to replace the environmental controls and the new stuff that came from the UK were wired backwards... Don't quite know what was up with that.
 
2007-09-27 09:25:24 PM  
Considering that the Mini is front wheel dive...if you lost the drive shaft I'd be really concerned.
 
2007-09-27 09:26:53 PM  
Ah, Lucas, prince of darkness.

My ex-boyfriend has a norton commando and I bought a 64 BSA B40. Parts literally used to vibrate off the bikes in mid-ride. He took the BSA when we split. Those things were money pits and I don't think either run anymore.
 
2007-09-27 09:27:28 PM  
lnsane: I Like Bread: It'll now be made by Germany, so expect a rise of "So I was just going down the street in my F-150 when a Cooper sliced me in half right between the plates" stories.

Makes sense it would now be made in Germany since Mini is a subsidiary of BMW.


Well, if you'd have RTFA, you'd know it's gonna be made in Austria, which is a subsidiary of Germany. Kinda.
 
2007-09-27 09:27:48 PM  
A British car improved? Yes its possible.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2007-09-27 09:28:11 PM  
It's just the new Mini Clubman estate car.
Built by BMW - in Austria
 
2007-09-27 09:30:25 PM  
omris: off road....

mini cooper...

off road mini cooper?

no. not allowed. reality denied.


You do know that the Mini has a LONG history as a rally car, right? right?

img217.imageshack.us

img217.imageshack.us
 
zz9
2007-09-27 09:32:59 PM  
It's just the new Mini Clubman estate car.
Built by BMW - in Austria


The photo is the Clubman estate, but thats made in the UK. TFA is talking about a off road Mini, no photos yet.
 
2007-09-27 09:36:25 PM  
LemSkroob:

You do know that the Mini has a LONG history as a rally car, right? right?


those still look like roads... you say off road, and i picture the difference between riding your bike to work and BMX.

maybe inaccurate, but meh.
 
2007-09-27 09:36:26 PM  
Q: how do you
double the [actual] value
of a mini cooper?

A: fill the gas tank.
 
2007-09-27 09:36:58 PM  
Q) Why don't the British export refrigerators?

A) Because they couldn't figure out how to make them leak oil.
 
2007-09-27 09:37:39 PM  
All the new mini coopers I've seen in the US were built in Germany. Check the first digit of the VIN- if it's a W, it was built in Germany. cars built in the UK get "S" as their first digit.
 
2007-09-27 09:40:01 PM  
hogans: logruszed: Yeah because British made Minis were such shiat, that must be why you still see old Morris and Austins on the road all the time.

If you don't understand the references to Lucas electrics, perhaps you should refrain from making snippy comments. Most British cars have that them common, which is why they're so much fun to drive at the speed of dark.


I've owned a 64' Mk III Sprite, and aside from one problem with the rear turn signals I never had a problem with it (other than the previous owner installed a roll bar that was too tall to allow the original cover to be used). I've heard from Midge owners that the problems they experience were more pervasive but I can't imagine it being that bad. Those cars are just too simple if you approach them with an understanding that you're not buying a new Honda.

But fine, people biatch about positive ground issues, poorly seated boots/bushings, etc. But the drivetrain on the small Brit cars is typically solid as are the bodies.

Most Morris/Austin cars were really well made with fewer problems than many other cars made in their day. The only reason people still pass on these same snarks is because the cars are actually still popular.

I also owned a Harley made in 79' (under AMF ownership). The bike was completely problem free. biatching about problems cars made 40 years ago have is stupid and usually lacks perspective.
 
2007-09-27 09:42:08 PM  
I learned to drive in a Mini Cooper 1500S. My dad used to be a semi-pro rally driver. Stuck to the road like paint. Beautiful machines.

That said, he drove Jags and Lotuses in daily life under the belief that British cars were superior to all others. We spent a lot of time by the side of the road waiting for tow trucks or fashioning new clutch cables out of whatever wire we could salvage from the nearest scrapyard.

/ still bitter
// subby
 
2007-09-27 09:46:09 PM  
Greek: All the new mini coopers I've seen in the US were built in Germany. Check the first digit of the VIN- if it's a W, it was built in Germany. cars built in the UK get "S" as their first digit.

They're lying. All BMW Minis are made in England.

VW is lying too. Even the Mexican made VWs with Argentinian transmissions have WVW VINs these days.
 
2007-09-27 09:49:51 PM  
Isn't a Mini Cooper "estate car" an oxymoron on the level of "jumbo shrimp"?
 
2007-09-27 09:50:08 PM  
Lemurs with bad teeth - front wheel cars have 2 drive shafts. If you lose either one of them you aren't going anywhere.

I thought the minis were pretty decent, it were the Jags and Triumphs that liked to let out magic smoke.
 
2007-09-27 09:52:16 PM  
Greek: All the new mini coopers I've seen in the US were built in Germany. Check the first digit of the VIN- if it's a W, it was built in Germany. cars built in the UK get "S" as their first digit.

Nope. All of them are built at the plant in Oxford. pop
 
2007-09-27 09:52:26 PM  
A British car improved? Yes its possible.

I always liked Shelby's line of thinking. I guess it would be like buying a Miata and stuffing the GT500's engine in it. Sounds like a good idea to me. maybe I should try to do that. I'm not sure there would be room though.
 
2007-09-27 09:59:04 PM  
FTFA:

The off-roader will aim to attract rugged adventurous types who like to head to the beach.

I LOLed...

/own 2 Jeeps
//gonna buy another one
 
2007-09-27 09:59:18 PM  
RamblinReck89: I always liked Shelby's line of thinking. I guess it would be like buying a Miata and stuffing the GT500's engine in it. Sounds like a good idea to me. maybe I should try to do that. I'm not sure there would be room though.

V8 Miata Kits (new window)
 
2007-09-27 09:59:31 PM  
I owned 2 Mini's, so I'm really blah blah...

A '69 Clubman(lhd), and an '85(rhd). The 85 ate a con rod, so I put in a 1275 twin carb motor.

Swapping the motor in my garage was fun. My kids didn't like losing the swingset as an A-frame...;)

Fun little cars. I want another one. Among other things.
 
2007-09-27 09:59:45 PM  
RamblinReck89: A British car improved? Yes its possible.

I always liked Shelby's line of thinking. I guess it would be like buying a Miata and stuffing the GT500's engine in it. Sounds like a good idea to me. maybe I should try to do that. I'm not sure there would be room though.


images.cardomain.net

5.0 Miata. 300+ Bhp weighs less than 2500lb

But these ones (new window) are better looking.
 
2007-09-27 10:00:27 PM  
I had a '64 Sunbeam Alpine. One night, I hit the horn to express my displeasure at being cut off by a K5 Blazer. The dash lights flickered, and to make a long story short, it burned to the ground.

/my car, not his truck.
 
2007-09-27 10:03:07 PM  
I own a '79 Spitfire and an '02 MCS, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

I visited the Oxoford MINI plant 3 years ago. It was awesome. If you're in England, I highly suggest taking a plant tour.
 
2007-09-27 10:06:43 PM  
omris: you say off road, and i picture the difference between riding your bike to work and BMX.

To European cars, anything unpaved is off road.
To American cars, off road is rock crawling and mud bogging.
 
2007-09-27 10:09:20 PM  
Farked_in_the_NW: Sterling 825SL.

You know I've never before met anyone who owned a Sterling. Who says you can't meet new and interesting people on Fark?
 
2007-09-27 10:15:27 PM  
Lupin_IV: omris: you say off road, and i picture the difference between riding your bike to work and BMX.

To European cars, anything unpaved is off road.
To American cars, off road is rock crawling and mud bogging.


To American Car owners maybe. But the majority of cars marketed to those people are no more "off road" than a Ford Panel van. Hence all the great photo sites of farking retards flipping their Jeep Grand Cherokees or Ford Excursions.

Genuine "off road" in the sense you refer to means custom fabrication, usually a lot more power than a stock vehicle, and a lot of know-how. So an Austin is just as capable of being modified heavily as is a Chevy Blazer. Wheelbase would be a problem, but you could probably flip it upright more easily.

news.windingroad.com
 
2007-09-27 10:24:01 PM  
RamblinReck89: A British car improved? Yes its possible.

vtec minis...want.

superfastminis.com (new window)
 
2007-09-27 10:28:33 PM  
Awldun: vtec minis...want.

Some years ago, I saw a writeup of a twin engine Mini. One in the front as normal, one in the back.

References to 'raped ape' or 'scalded cat' are appropriate.
 
2007-09-27 10:28:36 PM  
A few Lucas jokes were missing, so here's one:

Know why the Brits drink warm beer? Lucas makes kitchen appliances too.


That said, I have a spot in my heart for *any* 60s vintage car, but most of my heart is taken by the Porsche 356

/ horsepower is for those who can't keep the speed up in the corners
// more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow
 
2007-09-27 10:36:43 PM  
Here's the replacement

i21.tinypic.com
 
2007-09-27 10:39:58 PM  
logruszed

I didn't say that there were many production off roaders even in America. I just meant that the term off road applied to the vehicles from the two continents mean two different things. The exception being the Land Rover line which has jeep a fairly capable production off roader since inception.
 
2007-09-27 10:40:09 PM  
i.r.id10t: A few Lucas jokes were missing, so here's one:

Know why the Brits drink warm beer? Lucas makes kitchen appliances too.


That said, I have a spot in my heart for *any* 60s vintage car, but most of my heart is taken by the Porsche 356

/ horsepower is for those who can't keep the speed up in the corners
// more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow

Couldn't agree more.
I'm restoring my third '68 Mk III Spitfire.
First one caught fire in '77.
Second folded in half by a mini-Blazer in '85.
Bought this one as basket case 5 years ago, came with an original hardtop.
And a bumper sticker which reads. "All the parts falling off this car are of the highest British workmanship."
I'm still hooked on old English sports cars.
Love them old Minis, take turns like they're on rails.
 
2007-09-27 10:41:07 PM  
^which has been a fairly capable^

Sorry, got distracted while typing.
 
2007-09-27 10:43:40 PM  
i.r.id10t: but most of my heart is taken by the Porsche 356

Grassroots Motorsports magazine, 4 or 5 yrs ago.
Autocross test between a '65 356, a '67 Jag XKE, and a late model Honda Odyssey minivan.

Guess which was fastest?
 
2007-09-27 10:47:41 PM  
They're called "Half-shafts"

But I would pit my Roots Series IV against a mini any day.

/I'd loose, but who gives a shiat
 
2007-09-27 10:51:20 PM  
logruszed: RamblinReck89: A British car improved? Yes its possible.

I always liked Shelby's line of thinking. I guess it would be like buying a Miata and stuffing the GT500's engine in it. Sounds like a good idea to me. maybe I should try to do that. I'm not sure there would be room though.

5.0 Miata. 300+ Bhp weighs less than 2500lb

But these ones (new window) are better looking.


That's pretty much like porn as far as i'm concerned.
 
2007-09-27 10:55:05 PM  
As a Brit I have to ask 'who or what the fark is this 'Lucas?''

Also, my Deutsch friends tell me they believe UK engineering to be second only to Germany in the whole of Europe. Why are US stereotypes of Brits so messed up?

Bad teeth - some truth but really 20 years out of date
Bad food - some truth but 15 years out of date
Bad engineering - wha? Since when? Jags are famously unreliable, but surely you are not dumb enough to base your opinion on one luxury car few US citizens see, nevermind drive....
 
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