Because we're worth it.

Don't flatter yourself.
You're not.

badgerb: Because we're worth it.

Don't flatter yourself.
You're not.

This. I tire of women rabbiting on about how they are worth their high maintenance shenanigans. Seriously - you're really not. That's why the "lookers" end up with dickheads. Smart guys find real women.

Moonbat:

For example, Holding a door open for a woman does not imply that she is too weak to do so; rather that you are willing to be supportive in small things.

True but when you have to guess if the woman feels you are patronizing her it is not worth the effort.

Last year I held the door for some femmiroid and with disdain she said to me "I am perfectly capable of holding the door for myself.
My reply was "I know you are. I was just been polite. Unlike you."
That shut her up.

meekychuppet: badgerb: Because we're worth it.

Don't flatter yourself.
You're not.

This. I tire of women rabbiting on about how they are worth their high maintenance shenanigans. Seriously - you're really not. That's why the "lookers" end up with dickheads. Smart guys find real women.

Where are these "real women" you speak of? Do they have secret meetings or something?

Furthermore, why is it that we only have to hold doors for women? I hold doors for anyone behind me / anyone struggling with what they are carrying. Why do we all have to be such dicks to each other and expect a reward when we're not? I don't understand society.

/sigh

Rant_Casey's_Rabies_Buffet: Where are these "real women" you speak of? Do they have secret meetings or something?

In my experience they hide in plain sight.

I don't come on to the centre of attention. The real, interesting, sexy women I find are not bathing in the attention of men. I found mine in the background, so to speak.

meekychuppet: Rant_Casey's_Rabies_Buffet: Where are these "real women" you speak of? Do they have secret meetings or something?

In my experience they hide in plain sight.

I don't come on to the centre of attention. The real, interesting, sexy women I find are not bathing in the attention of men. I found mine in the background, so to speak.

I guess I need to keep a sharper eye.

Rant_Casey's_Rabies_Buffet: I guess I need to keep a sharper eye.

I'm no expert. There are strategies that worled
for me though. Girls hunt in twos. There will be one who gets all the attention. Talk to the other one. That's always a winner.

There's some beauties out there who get no action because they either can't flirt or don't want to be an AW.

Everything listed in that article can be applied or adapted to dealing with everyone, regardless of sex. It applies for women too. It's just common courtesy, respect, and sincerity.

meekychuppet: I'm no expert. There are strategies that worled for me though. Girls hunt in twos. There will be one who gets all the attention. Talk to the other one. That's always a winner.

There's some beauties out there who get no action because they either can't flirt or don't want to be an AW.

I guess that's part of the problem with living in a college town among the cream of the crap of my generation (Kent State) ... all attention-whoring idiots. In my experience, it's always the quiet girl who's taken, although she doesn't tell you that right away.

Man sometimes I really get annoyed with women in general. They seem to want the best of both worlds. In all honestly most women today seem to want double stanadrds.

badgerb: True but when you have to guess if the woman feels you are patronizing her it is not worth the effort.

Last year I held the door for some femmiroid and with disdain she said to me "I am perfectly capable of holding the door for myself.
My reply was "I know you are. I was just been polite. Unlike you."
That shut her up.

This. Happened to me a few years back up north. My reply was "so much for chivalry and farkin Yankee lesbos" Now that I'm back in the south again, if I didn't hold the door for a lady I would probably get my ass chewed out for being impolite. I guess it just depends on the region and traditional norms.

badgerb: Last year I held the door for some femmiroid and with disdain she said to me "I am perfectly capable of holding the door for myself.
My reply was "I know you are. I was just been polite. Unlike you."
That shut her up.

This does happen. I did it once and she said "I hope you didn't do that because I am a woman". Inspiration called and I flashed back "No, I did because I am a gentleman".

Back of the net...

meekychuppet: "No, I did because I am a gentleman".

Nicely done. People who are too insecure or biatchy to accept ordinary politeness deserve to be shot down. I'll never understand why good manners seem to make some people feel like they're threatened.

Simple, be an equal opportunity door holder-er. And with the other things, STFU women. You wanted equality, you got it. You're not a dainty fragile rose anymore, grow up and carry your own shopping bags, I'll carry mine.

Depending on how much of a feminist your are.

Tatsuma: Depending on how much of a feminist your you're.

FTFY

Rant_Casey's_Rabies_Buffet:
I guess that's part of the problem with living in a college town among the cream of the crap of my generation (Kent State) ... all attention-whoring idiots. In my experience, it's always the quiet girl who's taken, although she doesn't tell you that right away.


Don't worry, that's all colleges. Univ of Arizona was the exact same way, especially so considering the proximity to So. Cal. and all the glorious filth flowing out from there.

That said, I managed to pick up quite an amazing girl who, while quite the keeper, was quite low-key on the AW scale compared to the alternatives at the school.

Tatsuma: Depending on how much of a feminist your are.Don't Fark before your second cup of coffee

Fixed for accuracy

Chivary is holding the door open.
Sexism is holding the door open because she has big knockers and you want a safe way to see the backside.

Recoil Therapy: This poor woman was so stunned at this unrehearsed synchronized door sweeping that she stopped in her tracks, looked at both of us, grinned & told me I was raising him right as she went into the store.

Do people acctually NOT hold doors somewhere in the world? Everyone does it here regardless of the sex on the individuals involved. Good for you and your son but honestly this should be automatic.

vigildfa: Rant_Casey's_Rabies_Buffet:
I guess that's part of the problem with living in a college town among the cream of the crap of my generation (Kent State) ... all attention-whoring idiots. In my experience, it's always the quiet girl who's taken, although she doesn't tell you that right away.


Don't worry, that's all colleges. Univ of Arizona was the exact same way, especially so considering the proximity to So. Cal. and all the glorious filth flowing out from there.

That said, I managed to pick up quite an amazing girl who, while quite the keeper, was quite low-key on the AW scale compared to the alternatives at the school.

Ha. Not really worried, per say, just a little disappointed that I'm around such a quantity of morons on an American college camp ... nevermind.

Moonbat: There is no conflict.

Chivalry (today) is two things.
1) a code comprising purely symbolic acts.
2) simple respect

For example, Holding a door open for a woman does not imply that she is too weak to do so; rather that you are willing to be supportive in small things.

Chivalry in some ways is the opposite of sexism. Sexism seeks to restrict women to a role. Chivalry does not.

My opinion.

I came in here to express this opinion, but you put it so much better than I could have.

Ditto the increasingly common and irritating habit of making and taking endless mobile phone calls, text messages and BlackBerry messages while out in company. You may think this makes you look popular. We think it makes you look like a techno-nerd who can't organise his life. It also suggests to us that you don't think we are very important.

Typical egotistical whore, its all about you - yes honey, we take business calls to impress you, not because of work. We actually set it up with our friends so they will call during a date and we pretend we have to take it to impress you..

the_rev: I slam the door between us and go on my way. Let the biatch open the door if that's what she wants. I think I even locked a door one time.

REV! My heart just sank!

I *appreciate* any man or woman that holds the door open for me (and I make a point to say thank you), but I think it should be done out manners and courtesy.

It's the small space between my schmeckle and your rump-cleavage.

btw, some biatch in her SUV on her cell phone almost ran me over in the Jo-Ann parking lot the other day. I flipped her off, but I wasn't looking. Those are the kind of people I wouldn't mind slashing their tires and giving them a good slap.

"Chivalry" is when you are generally behaving like a gentleman, and observing basic rules of etiquette, in the presence of a sane, well-adjusted human being of the female persuasion.

"Sexism" is when you do the same thing in the presence of a militant feminist, who will regard your actions as an attempt to maintain the patriachic society by turning women into helpless objects.

Of course, you will be interested in getting laid with one of them, and it isn't the skinheaded biatch who could beat up a trucker when in a bad mood.

Egoy: Recoil Therapy: This poor woman was so stunned at this unrehearsed synchronized door sweeping that she stopped in her tracks, looked at both of us, grinned & told me I was raising him right as she went into the store.

Do people acctually NOT hold doors somewhere in the world? Everyone does it here regardless of the sex on the individuals involved. Good for you and your son but honestly this should be automatic.

In the midwest, where I live, it is automatic, and apparently in your part of Canada. The rule is, whoever hits the door first, opens it up for the person behind them. And the person for whom the door opens says "Thank you." However, when I lived in the deep South, no man would walk through a door I opened for them. They would actually stand there are kind of dig their heels in. While I lived there, I just stopped doing this for men.

Protip: If you're smacking your secretary's rump when she's bent over filing, it's probably sexism.

If you're disemboweling somebody else's peasants with a broadsword and you've got some chick's hankie tied around your arm, it's probably chivalry.

I'm really not seeing the confusion.

the line is maintianed by the woman, and her level of attraction to you is a factor.

women don't just want double standards, they also want mutually exclusives just like any insane person... ie

they want you to treat them like an empowered business CEO while acting like their knight in shining armour who sweeps them off their feet...

you tell them a dirty joke on the golf course and then bring them to a pub to quaff ales and just you wait till you get home, the biatching will be endless.

Either we treat you like men or we don't pick one for Gods sakes!

it doesn't even have to be one for all men, you can have one set of men treat you like men, and another set of men treat you like a lady, just pick ONE option per man and stick with it.

That was a long article about things I need to do... its easier for women all they need to know is give me a bj after I do all that.

They would actually stand there are and kind of dig their heels in.

FIFY

Ladies (or is that still considered derogatory to be called a lady?), don't get annoyed if we men hold the door open for you. We're not implying that you are too weak to do so. Most of us would do the same for little kids and the elderly to football players and weight lifters out of politeness and respect.

Just say thank you and move one (our arms do get tired and we don't have all day).

If you do decide to throw some insults our way because of our well mannered intentions, I just hope karma doesn't come and bite you in the ass one day... because you'll read about it on fark later on.

Door holding does not happen in Taiwan. A Taiwanese will speed up to beat you to the door, cut you off, open the door JUST wide enough for them to slip through and let it close right in your face without ever even acknowledging that you exist.
If you manage to reach the door first and hold the door open for them, they will show a stunned look of shocked confusion, then walk past you without so much as a muttered xie xie.

/they also think escalators and moving sidewalks are rides.

ciocia: However, when I lived in the deep South, no man would walk through a door I opened for them. They would actually stand there are kind of dig their heels in.

I never knew this was a regional thing. This explains why I get funny looks when traveling. Well that and my accent. Although it's rather tame compared to most in my area I have been told that it's quite funny.

ciocia: The rule is, whoever hits the door first, opens it up for the person behind them. And the person for whom the door opens says "Thank you."


That makes sense doesn't it? I am amazed at how many people will just breeze through a door before it closes and let it slam RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, instead of waiting .5 seconds and holding it for you.
Seems like most people I encounter in Columbia won't say thanks if you hold the door for them, and they won't hold it for you either. Buncha rude a$$holes.

lilplatinum

Typical egotistical whore, its all about you - yes honey, we take business calls to impress you, not because of work. We actually set it up with our friends so they will call during a date and we pretend we have to take it to impress you...


I'm sorry, but this is a point of contention for me. That is just plain rude. Whether on a date, a business meeting, having dinner with the family, or just having a conversation outside, answering the phone and making someone who you are with (and thus either have implicitly agreed to give them your attention, or to have their attention) wait is a sign of dismissal or a statement that your attention is just not worth it. I consider quickly checking the number, or quickly reading the subject of an e-mail or whatever just fine, though. We have voicemail, mailboxes, and your phone saves text messages for a reason. Reasonable exceptions are of course made for emergencies, family in the hospital, etc.

If it is important enough to answer and get involved with, it is important enough to excuse yourself, apologize, and ask the person to come back at a later time, or end the date. This is common courtesy.

If you don't have the intelligence or gumption to tell your boss that you are sorry, but you do have a personal life and are *not* at his beck and call 24/7, you deserve to be roundly criticized. Don't schedule things you cannot gracefully leave if you are on call. This is basic time management here.

lilplatinum: Typical egotistical whore, its all about you - yes honey, we take business calls to impress you, not because of work. We actually set it up with our friends so they will call during a date and we pretend we have to take it to impress you..

Oooh.. poor wage monkey needs his toy. Have you filed those TPS reports?

My horror story. Years ago I was working at Target headquarters when I held the door open for a woman behind me. Like I hold the door open for women /and/ men and had for as long as I remember.

She then proceeded to chew me out for 15 minutes about how she had two perfectly capable arms and could open her own door. Mind, I wasn't trying to pick her up, wasn't looking at her butt and I didn't even talk to her. But what I did was enough for Target to nail me with "sexual harassment".

I then got written up I(turned out she worked in HR) and had to attend "sexual harassment" training to save my job. It's stuff like that which causes men to lose all respect for "sexual harassment" complaints. I still hesitate to hold doors open for people after almost losing my job over it once.

aenea: meekychuppet: "No, I did because I am a gentleman".

Nicely done. People who are too insecure or biatchy to accept ordinary politeness deserve to be shot down. I'll never understand why good manners seem to make some people feel like they're threatened.

One of the best comebacks ever. I am writing that down.

badgerb:
"I know you are. I was just been polite. Unlike you."
That shut her up.


I will remember that.

I open doors for people of both sexes when ever I have the opportunity.

/works as a doorman.


//not really.