Like any other prescription it would be based on symptoms. Most drugs are delivered on the basis of duration of effect, peak effect, half-life, etc.

Easy: Marijuana joint= 1.0~g, duration 2-3 hours x need to alleviate. Figure most cancer patients would smoke 2-4 joints per day to alleviate nausea, promote appetite= About 1-4 grams per day.

Wow.. I hope the government doesn't spend too much money figuring these tough questions out.. DOH.

"It doesn't make sense for a judge or prosecutor to have to determine how much a sick person needs -- that's a medical decision, and I've always felt it should be made by a doctor."

All the other talky talk is just icing on the cake. This is the most important thing to consider. The people making decisions do not have the appropriate expertise to be making these decisions.

Damn- You guys need some Good AK Mantnuska Thunder- 1/8th is good for a while. And screw joint style- a Good glass pipe and all you need is 2-4 hits.

60-day amount would be moot if they just wised up and let these people keep 2 plants growing in rotation. That's a personal supply. Going out to buy weed is where crime becomes involved. Not In My Back Yard - in the corner of my bedroom.

3 oz.

I think the correct amount would be a plethora. And as the great El Guapo once said, "A plethora? How can you say I have a plethora if you don't know what a plethora is?"

Some people can get ripped off a 0.2 gram joint, others require a full gram joint.

Why does the government seem to be so uninformed of the basics of Marijuana?

SwallowTheKnife: Why does the government seem to be so uninformed of the basics of Marijuana?

because the idiots made it illegal, there are no unbiased comprehensive studies of it's effects.

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/...ummm...what was the question?

I'd say one or two bales ought to hold me over.

Half a pound, depending on quality.

Washington State allows for a 60-day supply of medical marijuana, but can't agree on just how much that actually is

I don't see how it could be less than 300 pounds.

Depends on how much coke and beer you have to go with it.

2-3 hours? Give those mofos some piff they'll be high off their asses for nine hours.

Prefers a big bag of it.

"There are so many variables here. Even if you just look at smokers, you have to look not only at the quality of the pot, but also at the efficiency of the smoker," he says. "Some people are better smokers than others."

Carter and several colleagues studied the dose amounts used on a federal study of medical marijuana, which has been in progress for more than 30 years. Based on this, he says that a 60-day supply works out to nearly 4 1/2 pounds per patient -- far more than the amount allowed by any state.

Isn't that the federally-supplied cannabis now considered highly substandard, by researchers suing to grow their own crops, because it has been held to the same pharmaceutical standard instead of being switched to seedless production and bred more potent over that 30 years?

Sounds like deliberately trying to answer a different question than the one being asked; if this is the kind of expert testimony they are getting, along with others slanted the other way, the disagreements may be entertaining.

I'm going with 420 lbs. per month

is this going to be one of those situations where the federal government comes in and arrests the doctors? Just once I'd love to see a state governor call out the national guard and take the federal agents into custody when they try that. I mean, what is the federal government going to do? Send in more ATF agents? I would just love to see a governor say, "you know what feds, you guys stepped over the line with regard to state's rights and we aren't going to take it, and you know damn-well that you aren't going to fight another civil war over this so just deal with it and leave us alone."

It's really sad how a shrub is outlawed. It's just a plant, jeez.

Tofu: Just once I'd love to see a state governor call out the national guard and take the federal agents into custody when they try that. I mean, what is the federal government going to do? Send in more ATF agents? I would just love to see a governor say, "you know what feds, you guys stepped over the line with regard to state's rights and we aren't going to take it, and you know damn-well that you aren't going to fight another civil war over this so just deal with it and leave us alone."

They were reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally close to doing that in the Elián González case.

24 ounces!!!!?? Oregon has it going on

plutonium238

Sweet amber waves of grain! Where the hell is that, 'cause I have to book a flight.

wxgeek: They were reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally close to doing that in the Elián González case.

No, dammit, what am I smoking? I mean the Terry Schiavo case. Can't keep track of all the damned nutcase things my state keeps doing.

We already have a similar situation crop up with legally prescribed opioids. Tolerance can run as high as 100:1 vs naive person, yet some prosecutor gets to determine whether that script is too big vs a doctor. Some medical colleges advice doctors to avoid the pain management field entirely due to the risk of criminal liability, nevermind civil.

Just curious here. How much money do you spend on average per month to stay high? I'm not asking about "grow your own", I'm talking about going out and buying the good stuff.

/serious question
//not a smoker

par-tay!

About three ounces

A kilo a day, minimum.

/I would be led to believe that a decision such as this is
a subjective matter that can be influenced by multiple variables.
Thus a lawmaker or a physician would have in-accurate judgment just based upon a general law. Separate laws or regulations would have to be created with flexibility set according to illness and severity of particular cases.
"Medicinal providers" (growers) are a great example of a little flexibility and tolerance creating a lot of efficiency in the system just by easing up a little on stringency and prosecution. It allows for a lot of state and federal spending to be alleviated. Just by letting a particular appointed and approved citizen be responsible for regulating the distribution of a product to multiple parties.
Leaving one person responsible for prosecution if sh}t gets dirty, and allowing patients to receive proper access to treatment.

/Further more negating the need to privatize or federalize the industry, and keeping the medicinal aspect off the streets!!!

We are not here to create opportunity and financial profit
off of the medical disadvantage of others.
/Viva EDDY LEPP!

give me doughnuts: plutonium238

Sweet amber waves of grain! Where the hell is that, 'cause I have to book a flight.
Both pics are German.

Gregosaurus Quote 2007-09-23 03:52:21 PM
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am not

Its 4:20 and my coworker and myself are about to blaze. We both agree that a daily supply of 2 grams of the "good stuff" should be enough for even the most cancery of folk.

Kome: "It doesn't make sense for a judge or prosecutor to have to determine how much a sick person needs -- that's a medical decision, and I've always felt it should be made by a doctor."

Repeated for emphasis. Doctors should decide. How can they propose to decide when they don't even know what a dose is?


Tofu: is this going to be one of those situations where the federal government comes in and arrests the doctors? Just once I'd love to see a state governor call out the national guard and take the federal agents into custody when they try that. I mean, what is the federal government going to do? Send in more ATF agents? I would just love to see a governor say, "you know what feds, you guys stepped over the line with regard to state's rights and we aren't going to take it, and you know damn-well that you aren't going to fight another civil war over this so just deal with it and leave us alone."

Well, they would have been able to do that, but while y'all were being distracted by OMG TERRISTS!!1! the government passed a new version of the Insurrection Act in the last military spending authorization bill, which allows the federal government to come in and TAKE OVER the local National Guard and declare the state government and law enforcement incompetent.

wxgeek: wxgeek: They were reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally close to doing that in the Elián González case.

No, dammit, what am I smoking? I mean the Terry Schiavo case. Can't keep track of all the damned nutcase things my state keeps doing.

Hence the Florida Tag, Ahh Florida! Setting the bar for Texas to strive for in craziness.

Halfway throught the measuring one of the officials turned to the other and asked "Wait - What were we doing with all this stuff?"

To which the other official said "Hehe.. Stuff. That's a funny word. No really say it to yourself a couple of times.Stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff"

TurdBurglar: Just curious here. How much money do you spend on average per month to stay high? I'm not asking about "grow your own", I'm talking about going out and buying the good stuff.

/serious question
//not a smoker

If I had to actually pay for all of it with no cap... Retail... Regular ol' industrial qualities... $500 or so.

How about this? Let people buy as much as they want. Medicinal marijuana users are probably a pretty remote risk for habitual addiction and there's negligible risk of chemical addiction (less than morphine and heroine, which are also "medicinal").

The lethal dosage is ~20 odd metric tons, so I don't think anyone's going to have to worry about overdosing.

Dang, the powers that be have no idea of the effects of marijuana, good or bad, and yet they've been sending folks to prison for possessing it. That seems wrong.

Since most medicinal users take as much as they need to alleviate pain, then I can't see how it would be practical to attempt a "standard dosage". How is the dosage for a Multiple Sclerosis patient going to be anywhere similar to an aids, cancer, or cerebral palsy patient? Shiat, just let them have as much as it takes to live their lives.

Tofu: is this going to be one of those situations where the federal government comes in and arrests the doctors? Just once I'd love to see a state governor call out the national guard and take the federal agents into custody when they try that. I mean, what is the federal government going to do? Send in more ATF agents? I would just love to see a governor say, "you know what feds, you guys stepped over the line with regard to state's rights and we aren't going to take it, and you know damn-well that you aren't going to fight another civil war over this so just deal with it and leave us alone."

As a first step, any state resident (be they a local cop or a DEA agent that happens to live there) who assists in such a raid gets their firearms permits cancelled and their names and pictures published in the newspaper.

I expect their life expectancy would be somewhat reduced.

i think it's time america decriminalized possesion under 1 ounce.

duffblue

AK already has