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2007-09-23 12:49:09 AM
Well done, Mike. I hope your bro had a bit more of that when he was playing.
 
2007-09-23 12:52:56 AM
Good for him.
 
2007-09-23 01:57:41 AM
Maybe I've seen Talladega Nights too many times, I kept expecting him to channel Ricky Bobby: "I hope that both of you have sons! Handsome, beautiful, articulate sons, who are talented, and star athletes, and they have their legs taken away! I mean, I pray you know that pain and that hurt!"
 
2007-09-23 05:11:18 AM
Mike and Cale Gundy can both farking EABOD for all I care. Worthless loser assholes.

/went to school with 'em. fark them.
 
2007-09-23 05:14:35 AM
That man understands athletics.

He knows when to to take it for his team, and when to DEAL IT out when others don't understand.

Sometimes it isn't about supporting the troops, but questioning thier leader.
 
2007-09-23 05:17:39 AM
What is he ranting about?
 
2007-09-23 05:31:15 AM
question_dj: What is he ranting about?

Not really sure, I don't follow the college game. But it sounds like the star quarterback turns out to suck, and the local paper is pointing it out. It seems like the coach is trying to overreact to compensate for it all and try to balance everything back?

Anyone else clarify please? Sure seems like he's being an ass.
 
2007-09-23 05:35:13 AM
Malinki: Anyone else clarify please? Sure seems like he's being an ass.

So, when somebody takes credit for your screwup, they are being an ass?
 
2007-09-23 05:39:38 AM
http://www.koco.com/sports/14182011/detail.html
 
2007-09-23 05:51:10 AM
So their best receiver, missed a crucial pass and the newspaper took it out on the player?

I'm not sure weather to tell the kid to man up Nancy or give the coach a cigar. Either way, in every life a rain must fall.
 
2007-09-23 05:57:44 AM
Well, if his career is 'Football', he should 'man up'.

This college ball, no matter what happens he can be a used care salesman, or your wifes gynecoligist.

Do you really want the media to stereotype him as the guy who 'dropped the ball for his team' comment?
 
2007-09-23 05:58:19 AM
AceGently: Malinki: Anyone else clarify please? Sure seems like he's being an ass.

So, when somebody takes credit for your screwup, they are being an ass?


Depends on the situation. I don't know the details and that's why I was asking. See the question mark thing that I used? See, there it was again. I was asking in the first place. I even said please.
 
2007-09-23 06:22:07 AM
Darth_Lukecash: So their best receiver, missed a crucial pass and the newspaper took it out on the player?

AceGently: Do you really want the media to stereotype him as the guy who 'dropped the ball for his team' comment?


Doesn't sound like this is a simple case of a dropped pass. Sounds like the star quarterback got replaced by his own receiver, and it seems like there's more to the story than that.

In any event, whatever the details are, it sure looks like some kid got picked on in the schoolyard and the teacher had to come defend him.
 
2007-09-23 07:10:53 AM
Malinki: Darth_Lukecash: So their best receiver, missed a crucial pass and the newspaper took it out on the player?

AceGently: Do you really want the media to stereotype him...


Darth_Lukecash, meant no offense, just pointing out that sometimes the media points it's big stinky finger at the wrong person. (Hence, me and my big stinky finger.) I just wanted to make the point that football is a team sport.

Malainki, I was using 'dropped the ball' as a reference to him not full-fulling the fans want for a win.

In any event, if the kid is getting picked on, and anyone feels they need to defend him, doesn't it question the motive of the bully? (question mark ;-))
 
2007-09-23 07:55:40 AM
Hehe, yeah, I wasn't offended, just annoyed that everyone seemed to be patting the coach on the back for ranting like that, and I don't know the details. Furthermore, it seems the lead-up to these events are all kinda hush-hush too.

I did get confused on the dropped ball reference because there actually was one mentioned in the game. Like I said, I don't pay attention and haven't found the actual article that started this, so I took it literally.

All bullies are questionable, sure. I just can't figure out if he's a non-pro player so it's not a big deal, or it is a big deal and he needs defending from being kicked while down, or...

?

;)
 
2007-09-23 08:17:33 AM
There's no such thing as an "amateur" college football player.
 
2007-09-23 09:55:01 AM
Is this the article that prompted his tirade?...

Written by a girl
 
2007-09-23 10:18:53 AM
Wow. I've been Sooner born and Sooner bred in my 32 years on this planet but I gotta give mad props for Gundy for doing that. That biatch that wrote that column just got OSUwned.
 
2007-09-23 10:25:01 AM
Yep, that's the article.

Link
 
2007-09-23 10:34:24 AM
This coach can't have it both ways. He can't take a multi-million dollar contract to coach football in front of thousands of fans a week and then say you can't criticize his players because they're "kids".

It's the hypocrisy of the system, it's unfair, but it's a system that turns these players into pseudo-professionals. You can say the columnist was wrong, but to pull the "How dare she criticize my kids" card is disingenuous.
 
2007-09-23 10:46:13 AM
jake_lex:
I think his whole point was that he should be the one to get criticized because he's the one getting paid those big dollars.



That was a fantastic rant.
 
2007-09-23 11:04:14 AM
jake_lex: This coach can't have it both ways. He can't take a multi-million dollar contract to coach football in front of thousands of fans a week and then say you can't criticize his players because they're "kids".

It's the hypocrisy of the system, it's unfair, but it's a system that turns these players into pseudo-professionals. You can say the columnist was wrong, but to pull the "How dare she criticize my kids" card is disingenuous.


Sure he can have it both ways. In fact, he opens himself up for more (all of?) the criticism because he's the one collecting the check, and they're "there to learn."

As an aside, the "I'M FORTY!" thing made me thing of that god awful Molly Shannon character (Sally O'Malley?)
 
2007-09-23 11:13:01 AM
Hero Tag unavailable?

They're kids. They are not professionals. Even 'Pseudo-Professional' isn't "PROFESSIONAL" jake_lex. If we're going to tread THAT line of bullshiat, psuedo-experts can make policy for nations, and psuedo-intellectuals can be given the same weight as the real thing.

Oh wait...
 
2007-09-23 12:08:58 PM
He is right. Sam Kinison would have been proud.

So, you want to write a story? Write about this you bleepin bleep of bleeping bleep
 
2007-09-23 01:41:19 PM
So the article was an unfair attack?

Q. Why didn't he deal with the writer of the article and/or editor directly?

A. Because the article is true, so rant and cry about it like you're protecting the small kid with glasses from the big bully in front of everyone. After all, lowering yourself to the same level is about as professional as it gets.

Still sounds to me like the coach is an ass.
 
2007-09-23 01:45:02 PM
Sports writer made up a lot of crap about a player that painted him in a very bad light. Tried to make him out to be a whiny, momma's boy and claimed he threatened to transfer to have his way, etc.

Coach called her out on her crap and she got owned. Note that she works for the Daily Oklahoman, perhaps the worst newspaper in the country and this isn't the first time she reported rumor and innuendo as fact. Its her modus operandi.
 
2007-09-23 01:49:29 PM
lawboy87: Sports writer made up a lot of crap about a player that painted him in a very bad light. Tried to make him out to be a whiny, momma's boy and claimed he threatened to transfer to have his way, etc.

Coach called her out on her crap and she got owned. Note that she works for the Daily Oklahoman, perhaps the worst newspaper in the country and this isn't the first time she reported rumor and innuendo as fact. Its her modus operandi.


If that's true, then the coach is even more of an idiot for getting baited like that.
 
2007-09-23 01:58:54 PM
jake_lex: This coach can't have it both ways. He can't take a multi-million dollar contract to coach football in front of thousands of fans a week and then say you can't criticize his players because they're "kids".

It's the hypocrisy of the system, it's unfair, but it's a system that turns these players into pseudo-professionals. You can say the columnist was wrong, but to pull the "How dare she criticize my kids" card is disingenuous.


You're an idiot. Plain and simple. Look at the situation. Mike Gundy is a college football head coach. Every year he and his coaches go on the road to recruit young players. The process involves them getting personal with the players' families. Sad to say, most football coaches are looked at as a surrogate parent. Simply on the fact that these kids lived with their parents all their lives are now out on their own. Big transition in life.

Here's why Mike Gundy's rant was not only the right thing to do, but necessary. How would you like to go into a families' home and try and recruit their son to play for your team, but you have the reputation for not sticking up for your players. Your players get ripped by the local media, and you do nothing. A kid who deals with the pressures of college life, football, and gets paid squat, then has to deal with the pressure of public and media scrutiny. I know Farkers won't care, but as a father, I would hate to see one of my sons in that situation. Listen to the the beginning of the video, a mother brought it up to him out of concern. Mike Gundy is now known as a guy who will go to war for his players. That goes a long way with parents of the kids you're trying to recruit.
 
2007-09-23 02:13:00 PM
Deadhouseplants: jake_lex: This coach can't have it both ways. He can't take a multi-million dollar contract to coach football in front of thousands of fans a week and then say you can't criticize his players because they're "kids".

It's the hypocrisy of the system, it's unfair, but it's a system that turns these players into pseudo-professionals. You can say the columnist was wrong, but to pull the "How dare she criticize my kids" card is disingenuous.

You're an idiot. Plain and simple. Look at the situation. Mike Gundy is a college football head coach. Every year he and his coaches go on the road to recruit young players. The process involves them getting personal with the players' families. Sad to say, most football coaches are looked at as a surrogate parent. Simply on the fact that these kids lived with their parents all their lives are now out on their own. Big transition in life.

Here's why Mike Gundy's rant was not only the right thing to do, but necessary. How would you like to go into a families' home and try and recruit their son to play for your team, but you have the reputation for not sticking up for your players. Your players get ripped by the local media, and you do nothing. A kid who deals with the pressures of college life, football, and gets paid squat, then has to deal with the pressure of public and media scrutiny. I know Farkers won't care, but as a father, I would hate to see one of my sons in that situation. Listen to the the beginning of the video, a mother brought it up to him out of concern. Mike Gundy is now known as a guy who will go to war for his players. That goes a long way with parents of the kids you're trying to recruit.


Ahhhhh, as suspected: ulterior motives.

See, it's not because there was anything to the quarterback sucking. It's because they have to keep the college football machine rolling. Can't have bad press when we suck, it'll make it hard to recruit. Skip dealing with it like rational, forty-year-old adults, let's make a scene at a press conference.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
2007-09-23 02:31:19 PM
Folks, if you don't know the background and context here, you are making a fool of yourself.

This isn't the first time this reporter has done nothing but cruise a few "fan site" bulletin boards and put opinions culled from them in her column as "fact." She routinely writes the most negative stuff she can and never can cite to a single source. Even her latest article is by her own admission based on "rumors" as she cites to such "rumors" twice in her article. (The things she claimed could have been verified our sourced, neither of which she apparently even attempted to do.)

Secondly, those familiar with her and her writing in Oklahoma have turned out in droves to support the coach and call her out for her shoddy reporting and even shoddier ethics. (Local broadcast station poll shows a 90% favorability for the coach) How many "good" journalists do you know who would pull quotes off the Fark board and put them in a newspaper article as "fact"?
 
2007-09-23 03:04:43 PM
Malinki
Ahhhhh, as suspected: ulterior motives.

See, it's not because there was anything to the quarterback sucking. It's because they have to keep the college football machine rolling. Can't have bad press when we suck, it'll make it hard to recruit. Skip dealing with it like rational, forty-year-old adults, let's make a scene at a press conference.

Thanks for clearing that up.


Yet another person whose Reality Checker shows common sense as "unidentified caller." Seriously, stop trying to think. You'll hurt yourself.

Gundy did exactly what a good coach is supposed to do. Anyone who knows a thing or two about sportsmanship and the coach-student player relationship realizes this.
 
2007-09-23 03:20:30 PM
Whatever. If he wants to play big time football he better grow some thicker skin. Can you imagine the fallout if an SEC, a Big 10 or a Big 12 coach threw a temper tantrum like this?
 
2007-09-23 03:30:59 PM
suckerpunch: Can you imagine the fallout if an SEC, a Big 10 or a Big 12 coach threw a temper tantrum like this?

Um...Mike Gundy is a Big 12 coach. He's the coach for the Oklahoma State Cowboys.
 
2007-09-23 03:42:03 PM
LondosHair:
Yet another person whose Reality Checker shows common sense as "unidentified caller." Seriously, stop trying to think. You'll hurt yourself.


Please try harder.

Gundy did exactly what a good coach is supposed to do. Anyone who knows a thing or two about sportsmanship and the coach-student player relationship realizes this.

So it would be bad sportsmanship to ignore the whole thing as invalid and bad journalism from a known producer of garbage? It would be bad sportsmanship to turn the other cheek? Or approach the newspaper directly instead at a press conference that was supposed to be about something else?

I don't read the papers, this was brought to me. Right.

No chance. This is all about public appearances or he wouldn't have done something so public. This was hype. So again, please try harder.
 
2007-09-23 04:08:27 PM
othan1: Mike and Cale Gundy can both farking EABOD for all I care. Worthless loser assholes.

EABOD? what is that?
 
2007-09-23 04:10:52 PM
havesometea
EABOD? what is that?


E.at A. B.owl O.f D.icks.
 
rka
2007-09-23 04:16:03 PM
I don't know about the specifics of this particular case, but I've always had a problem with "can't criticize college players" mentality.

Yes, these guys don't get paid in $$, but if we can't be critical of them when they make mistakes, then maybe they should do without all the praise and adulation they get when they do good.

So no more Playboy All-American trips. No more SI covers. No more BMOC type treatment. They can show up, play ball and the rest of us will applaud quietly and that's about it.

No one likes to see a 20 year old unfairly thrown under the bus when he goes 10-30 with 3 INTs, but maybe to balance that out we should stop salivating over him when he goes 25-30 with 4 TDs.
 
2007-09-23 04:22:54 PM
rka,

This wasn't an article about his play or on-field performance, it was nothing but a series of cheap-shots basically calling him a momma's boy, claiming he threatened the coaches with transfering to win the job, etc. The "reporter" had NOTHING to back those accusations up except her references that this is what she was getting from the rumor mill. It was nothing but a cheap-shot personal attack on the kid that was for the most part completely unrelated to his on-field performance. It even started out by criticizing him because his mother brought him some home made chicken to eat.

That was the objection, the article itself wasn't grounded in any kind of legitimate sports journalism. Like I said, its not the first time this reporter has pulled this crap and the newspaper she writes for is known for being of such poor quality it was annointed the "Worst Paper in America" in the past.
 
2007-09-23 04:26:34 PM
Oh, I thought it was OU at first, not State. I was like: WTF?

/GO SOONERS
//the only real team in orange with OSU as their acronym is OREGON STATE
///Oregon Ducks FTL for the paid off referee last year during the OU game
 
2007-09-23 04:37:36 PM
lawboy87: Sports writer made up a lot of crap about a player that painted him in a very bad light. Tried to make him out to be a whiny, momma's boy and claimed he threatened to transfer to have his way, etc.

Coach called her out on her crap and she got owned. Note that she works for the Daily Oklahoman, perhaps the worst newspaper in the country and this isn't the first time she reported rumor and innuendo as fact. Its her modus operandi.


For example, players at OSU get box lunches when they are in a hurry and cant sit down to eat before a game. Family members are allowed to come to these meals and help out. Reid's mother handed him his box lunch, then continued to pass out food to the rest of the players. She took this and made it sound like she spoon fed him his meal.
 
2007-09-23 04:39:08 PM
Awesome, way to go Mike Gundy.
 
2007-09-23 04:59:24 PM
OSU graduate here. For everyone who's confused:

1. OSU quarterback Bobby Reid has bad games against Georgia and Florida Atlantic. He goes out with an injury in the 2nd Quarter against FAU. Zac Robinson replaces him and leads the offense in a dominating victory.

2. Robinson starts the next week against Troy and again against Texas Tech. Reid is benched.

3. Jenni Carlson writes an article, not criticizing Reid's on field play, but, citing rumor and innuendo, criticizes his character.

4. Mike Gundy rightfully shouts her down publicly.

Seeing this video makes me proud to be an OSU fan. I was starting to worry that Gundy wasn't a passionate coach who could inspire passion in his players. Now I know that is the farthest thing from the truth, and I feel a lot better about having him as our coach. GO POKES.
 
2007-09-23 05:36:06 PM
If I had a kid, I'd want him to play for a coach like that. He's defending his player. He is the anti-Bobby Knight.
 
2007-09-23 07:36:48 PM
Arxane:
Um...Mike Gundy is a Big 12 coach. He's the coach for the Oklahoma State Cowboys.


I know, I realized that as soon as I hit Add comment.
 
2007-09-23 07:48:33 PM
havesometea,

A MWC Bomber are ya?
 
2007-09-23 09:10:45 PM
If the reporter had a defendable position then the other reporters would crucify the coach for "picking on a girl". Instead he received applause; probably from other reporters that knew this chick reporter is a waste of skin.
 
2007-09-23 09:22:35 PM
How old is this "kid"?
 
2007-09-23 09:55:05 PM
I don't think this columnist will ever understand the points made by the coach.

I mean with a face like that, who the hell would want to willingly procreate with that?

Take a look for yourself.
http://www.newsok.com/video/brightcove/?bctid=1184496151&bclid=1112157274
 
2007-09-23 10:37:59 PM
can somebody just post the article for me? these links aint workin
 
2007-09-23 11:02:02 PM
yeah I can't find a working link anywhere to the article....they must have taken it down.
 
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