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2007-09-20 02:10:44 PM
TheGreyPiper: Another pedo working with children.

/Curbside execution.
//Paging Judge Dredd.



PEDO WAR!
 
2007-09-20 02:10:45 PM
Malcom Tent

I would rather my kid read comic books rather than nothing at all. But I don't have a kid so it really doesn't matter.


/is that kentucky crab grass?
//greener on the other side
 
2007-09-20 02:10:55 PM
ultraholland: FTA: "borderline pornography."

So the line was not crossed? Me confused.


Wait, are we talking about the Jennifer Annistion thread?
 
2007-09-20 02:11:02 PM
zobear: Probably not the best choice for 9th grade lit.

I haven't read the comic, so I can't comment.

Wait a minute... I am commenting. Right now. I'm commenting about how I can't comment.

...

I think I hurt my brain.

Coffee. Need more coffee.
 
2007-09-20 02:11:10 PM
Chiggity Chza: I wonder if it was paper back or hard back baby got back..?
/dude, she's 14
 
2007-09-20 02:11:58 PM
HunterNIU: MAXAMOUS: Giggity.

*Picture of Quagmire*


/obligatory

I believe he is saying, "OOH!" in that picture.


/still wish I posted that picture on my previous giggity 2007-09-20 01:58:19 PM
// :^(


You are correct. OOH!! :D
 
2007-09-20 02:12:46 PM
HunterNIU: A Clockwork Oragne.

YOU GET IT RIGHT!


Is that your pet peeve?
 
2007-09-20 02:12:56 PM
Jeez, if you're gonna give a student a comic to read and get fired over it, at least make sure it's something meaningful like The Watchmen or SQUEE!

Oddly enough, I had lent my copy of The Watchmen to my 11th Grade Sociology teacher.

CrispyCowboy

Don't. Just don't. Your ignorance is showing. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
 
jx
2007-09-20 02:13:31 PM
crispycowboy: Comic book = "work of literature"?
subby -1


if it was Maus, then yes. it wasn't, so no.
 
2007-09-20 02:13:48 PM
ultraholland

Hey, I am not the one distributing borderline porn to tweens. But if I were...
 
2007-09-20 02:14:09 PM
dittybopper

When you phrase it like that, I get images of people putting pedos into catapults and launching them at one another. I'm not sure if that's inappropriate, or funny. Thank you for contributing to my moral ambiguity.
 
2007-09-20 02:14:25 PM
HunterNIU: Wait, are we talking about the Jennifer Annistion thread?

It could evolve into that.

www.boobieblog.com
/SFW nipples, FTW!
 
2007-09-20 02:14:36 PM
It includes references to rape, various sex acts and murder, as well as images of a naked woman, and a peeping tom watching a woman in the shower.

Lord of the Flies, minus the naked woman and peeping tom.
 
2007-09-20 02:16:01 PM
Riiight, "literature"....

Comic books are not farking literature! That's why they are called "comic books" - it's pictures with little speech blurbs (which is fine for what it is), "literature" involved writing.
 
2007-09-20 02:16:37 PM
Heh, they are going to fire the math teacher next for giving her long division. Or maybe the PE Teacher checking for hernias.
 
2007-09-20 02:17:04 PM
slickiedoo: Where was this stuff when I was reading "Up From Slavery" for summer reading?!?! That was really close to chewing on cardboard!! I'm appauled!

Did you rotsky that comment on purpose?
 
2007-09-20 02:17:09 PM

"I personally don't ever want him teaching again," he said. "There is nothing that he could say that would account for this. ... That poor judgment is something you can't take back."


These are the farkwads who don't avoid jury duty
 
2007-09-20 02:17:32 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2007-09-20 02:17:50 PM
I loves me some 8-ball. He can't produce them fast enought.

Favorite bit "Artschool Confidential."

Favorite Clowes character toss up between "Tina" from "Velvet Glove Cast In Iron" "Needledick the BugF#cker"
 
2007-09-20 02:18:34 PM
See pops, you could have just gone in, met with the teacher, said "I really don't think this was appropriate for our daughter" and asked him to assign something else since it was a one-person (as opposed to class-wide) assignment.

But no, you had to protect your precious little snowflake by going above the teacher's head and getting him fired. Good job. With over reactive parenting like that, I hope someone is smart enough to get your daughter on birth control ASAP.
 
2007-09-20 02:18:52 PM
jx:

while i agree that it's probably not the best choice for 9th grade lit, people need to get thicker skins. you're going to be exposed to stuff that offends you, deal with it.

This is not about offense. I would not be the least bit offended by that comic book. Your a male person of authority and you give something to my 14 year old daughter with sexual content and ask her how it makes her feel? In the words of Rooster Cogburn, "you will think a thousand of brick have fallen on your head." That behavior is so far out of line for a teacher that there's no way to excuse it. As a parent, I can't think of a single thing that would justify it.

However, the parents are barking up the wrong tree. What do they expect the school to do about it once the guy is fired? The school can't really go around telling everyone that the teacher handed out inappropriate material, that's a possible law suit and privacy violation right there. The parents have to understand that standing up for your children is going to be unpopular, and the daughter is going to feel the backlash from that. They should be teaching her that the people who are blaming the teacher's departure on the daughter are people the daughter doesn't need anyway.

If they want more, it's time to pursue legal action. There's nothing more the school can do.
 
2007-09-20 02:18:58 PM
ultraholland: FTA: "borderline pornography."

So the line was not crossed? Me confused.


You know what the difference is between pornography and erotica?


Lighting


/Ill be here all week
//Try the veal!
 
2007-09-20 02:19:06 PM
Chiggity Chza ...and the band teacher for...
/you come up with the scenario.
 
2007-09-20 02:19:20 PM
Where did the "Anger is the result" meme come from? I saw it for the first time when I read the smoking gun's report on MRE's reviewed by military personnel. I saw lots of reviews ended with "Anger is the result." Googling turns up nothing.
 
2007-09-20 02:19:44 PM
maz.hu

Excuse me. You need to go back to grad school.
 
2007-09-20 02:20:08 PM
glwtta: Riiight, "literature"....

Comic books are not farking literature! That's why they are called "comic books" - it's pictures with little speech blurbs (which is fine for what it is), "literature" involved writing.


Ever read "Watchmen"?
 
2007-09-20 02:20:20 PM
HunterNIU: Sharing Artist's Boobies: From the headline, I was sure the work of literature in question was going to be the Bible.

The headline would have been so much less lame if so.

You're just looking for an internet fight aren't you?


"INTERNET TOUGH GUY" magazine has arrived, all meaningful discussion has pretty much ended.

/Sorry, pet peeve
 
2007-09-20 02:20:47 PM
glwtta

Oh yeah, because all those stories and thoughts commentary and whatnot that SOME people put into their work are ALL crap.

Before you make a further fool of yourself, you should go read either "Identity Crisis" or "The Watchmen".

Toward the end of Identity Crisis, there was a particular scene that made me break down and wish I still had a father I could call and tell'em I'm glad he was my father.

So before you go "OMG IT'S A PICTURE BOOK", try actually reading it.
 
2007-09-20 02:21:11 PM
ultraholland
and the band teacher for... for teaching rock and roll..?
 
2007-09-20 02:21:20 PM
Sharing Artist's Boobies: Is that your you're pet peeve?

/Pet Beever
 
2007-09-20 02:21:29 PM
grizzlyjohnson: Your a male person of authority and you give something to my 14 year old daughter with sexual content and ask her how it makes her feel? In the words of Rooster Cogburn, "you will think a thousand of brick have fallen on your head." That behavior is so far out of line for a teacher that there's no way to excuse it. As a parent, I can't think of a single thing that would justify it.

Do you know for a fact that the content of the book was exclusively sexual? That the teacher was specifically referring to the sexual aspects and how it made her feel?
 
2007-09-20 02:21:51 PM
LowbrowDeluxe:

It'll never be one of the great classics of western literature, but it is *trying* to say something.

The same could be said about The Happy Hooker but I still wouldn't give it to a 14 year old to read.
 
2007-09-20 02:22:32 PM
ultraholland: /SFW nipples, FTW!

Work's firewall blocks the domain FTFAIL!

/but seriously thanks for trying!
//i farkin need it
 
2007-09-20 02:23:13 PM
Malcom Tent: Is it just me, or is the biggest travesty that this teacher deemed a comic book - any comic book - appropriate study material?

Mostly you.

Maus, Persepolis, King, Buddha, American Born Chinese, The Plot, In The Shadow of No Towers, Pyongyang, Two-Fisted Science, Blankets, Watchmen... yeah, I can't see why any of those might be appropriate study material.

You'll be surprised to find that genre has evolved a bit from the early pulp days, though a lot of the classic stuff is worthy of study too (Pogo, Krazy Kat, etc).

/all I really need to know about ancient history I learned from Asterix.
 
2007-09-20 02:23:20 PM
jx: while i agree that it's probably not the best choice for 9th grade lit, people need to get thicker skins. you're going to be exposed to stuff that offends you, deal with it.

I'm down with that. But in 9th grade, I'd rather have my kid learning a few critical thinking and reasoning skills, so that when she reads Eightball #22, she'll have the tools to understand it. Save the offensive stuff for say 11th/12th/AP/IP lit classes.

fwiw, my kid's 11 and draws comics (we're talking 150+ pages) - some of them with violent images and so-called "foul" language. I think it's cool as shiate.
 
2007-09-20 02:23:56 PM
glwtta: Comic books are not farking literature! That's why they are called "comic books" - it's pictures with little speech blurbs (which is fine for what it is), "literature" involved writing.

Are those "little speech blurbs" not writing or something?
 
2007-09-20 02:24:05 PM
iamrobot: These are the farkwads who don't avoid jury duty

When my wife was a 7th grade science teacher she got in trouble for showing the movie "Dante's Peak" because it wasn't on the approved movie list. FYI - its a movie about volcanoes and she was teaching a module on volcanoes. She got in trouble because two of the kids who were always getting detention told their parents they were watching a non-suitable movie.
 
2007-09-20 02:24:33 PM
But between herself and her three best friends, I'm guessing they could come up with a whole STACK of the bodice-ripper, crotch novels discarded once their moms were done reading them. You know, the ones with the half naked men and women on the front. I should know, I started reading my moms stuff when I was 12, because all MY friends were ;-D
 
2007-09-20 02:25:29 PM
Up tight Assholes.
She is in high school DUH!
But a so called bad pic could kill her or harm her for live BS.
 
2007-09-20 02:25:38 PM
zobear: FTFA: It includes references to rape, various sex acts and murder, as well as images of a naked woman, and a peeping tom watching a woman in the shower.

Probably not the best choice for 9th grade lit.


Indeed. Ninth-graders should be reading about things that are outside their experience, to broaden their horizons.
 
2007-09-20 02:25:40 PM
glwtta: Riiight, "literature"....

Comic books are not farking literature! That's why they are called "comic books" - it's pictures with little speech blurbs (which is fine for what it is), "literature" involved writing.


Someone needs a beating with the semiotics stick.
 
2007-09-20 02:26:02 PM
Yeah, books with sex are bad for 9th graders. They should watch some wholesome MTV or prime-time network TV drama. No sex or violence there.
 
2007-09-20 02:27:09 PM
HunterNIU: Work's firewall blocks the domain FTFAIL!

Work firewalls can suck my unemployed balls.
 
2007-09-20 02:27:41 PM
I would like to see the comic in question before I pass judgement!
 
2007-09-20 02:27:57 PM
A few years ago, my son's sixth grade teacher had his class watch Schindler's List in classroom. Now, to explain Nazi atrocities, is it necessary to show excerpts of graphic images in concentration camps to 5th and 6th graders? He didn't tell the parents beforehand, nor apparently the principal, but he did have to send a letter of apology and explanation to parents.

Public education in this country...we are heading to a third world status just like the old Soviet empire.
 
2007-09-20 02:28:36 PM
After reading a quick review of Eightball #22 I'd have to say I probably wouldn't hand it over to my 14 year old girl(I have one, ya know).

I would have read it at that age, though, if it were available to me. I remember going up to my highschool librarian when I was that age and asking for Clockwork Orange. She looked at me like I was nuts and told me that it wasn't appropriate for me and they didn't have it. I said "fine, I'll buy it at the bookstore". I turned out pretty much ok.
 
2007-09-20 02:29:13 PM
chechcal:

Do you know for a fact that the content of the book was exclusively sexual?

I know for a fact it wasn't. What's your point? I said WITH sexual content.

That the teacher was specifically referring to the sexual aspects and how it made her feel?

Don't care. As a parent of a 14 year old (hypothetically, my daughter is grown up now, but she was once 14) I don't care. As an educated parent and someone close to law enforcement, I know that's a common predator trick. Figure out a way to get close to your victims, give them something sexual to read or look at and ask them how it makes them feel. A person in the teacher's position knows, or should know, that same thing and even if the whole incident was perfectly innocent, he should know that it most likely wouldn't be percieved as such.

Either way, I would not give that teacher the benefit of the doubt. There's no excuse. Off with his nuts.
 
2007-09-20 02:29:17 PM
needs repeating...should have given her Watchmen.
 
2007-09-20 02:30:04 PM
ultraholland: Work firewalls can suck my unemployed balls.

Bwa ha ha ha!
 
2007-09-20 02:30:57 PM
scseth

ick. I remember High School as a neverending series of events where one person does something idiotic (usually me) and then everyone else in the equation makes an absolute art of over-reacting. Rinse, repeat for four years. From every story I hear about it, it's still exactly that.

Hopefully the wife has better luck with it than I did.
 
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