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(St. Petersburg Times)   When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for a dude to be all like "Don't tase me bro" more people need to be all like "WTF?" and "That's totally not cool"   (sptimes.com) divider line 1217
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2007-09-19 01:20:24 PM
Pope: So, cops can arrest me whenever they see fit, for whatever reason and if I resist I can be tased? Doesn't sound quite right to me.

He was detained and charged with "disruption of an educational event" according to news reports. If you do not agree with that charge, you are allowed to fight it IN COURT. Just because you do not agree with why you are being arrested does not give you to right to physically resist arrest.
 
2007-09-19 01:20:34 PM
Ctrl-Alt-Del
Because he was agitated, aggressive, AND RESISTING ARREST. Even with four cops holding him, he continued to physically resist, and would not allow them to handcuff him.

If you resist arrest, cops will (and rightfully so) use increasing levels of force until you comply or can no longer resist.
Whether or not the Taser was an appropriate nexrt step up the force scale might be an interesting discussion, but there are far too many OMG!!! POLICE STATE!!! kooks in this thread to even bother trying.


Okay, so we have an unarmed, tiny, college kid who hasn't attacked anyone or done anything to lead us to believe he's a danger to anyone. Annoying/loud - Yes. Dangerous - No.

He doesn't want to be arrested.

Can the cops shoot him in the head? Well, I think it's safe to say that most people think 'No'; and legally they can't. The fact that he's resisting gives them the right to use the minimal amount of force nessecary.

As a former wrestler; I can tell it's childs play to get a guys arm behind his back. Especally a guy who is smaller and weaker (and yes, I do expect cops to be bigger and stronger than some runt in college). Then, considering that there is not just one, but several trained, skilled, experienced, police officers who should have far more training than a high school wrestler....

I feel as though use of a tazer is excessive force. I understand that force should be used when someone is resisting arrest; but it should be the minimum amount required.

For years, cops didn't have tazers. I feel as though, if cops managed to handcuff people for all those years without them, they should be able to handcuff people now, without them.
 
2007-09-19 01:20:42 PM
UpstateMonkey: You're an idiot. The next time you're in trouble and need the cops, I hope 911 is busy.

Cops rarely show up in enough time to help someone in trouble. Firefighters, EMTs, sure, but short of armed stand-offs, police tend to investigate crimes well after they're over.
 
2007-09-19 01:20:52 PM
Pincy: Tatsuma: By the way, I've got awesome tips for you if you don't want to be tasered by police officers:

*) Obey the farking law.

Oh yes, I just found the statute that says "Thou shalt not ask John Kerry questions he doesn't want to answer".


Whether I think that this is right or wrong he was not tasered because he asked a tough questions, in fact he would not even let Kerry answer his question. He was a spaz, out of control and, in my opinion, wanted something like this to happen. He was agressive from the very beginning and asked a stranger to tape his questions, as though wanting evidence because he knew he was going to push the envelope too far. They were trying to remove him from the building for causing a disturbance and he was a complete asshat.
 
2007-09-19 01:21:32 PM
UpstateMonkey: You're an idiot. The next time you're in trouble and need the cops, I hope 911 is busy.

After watching this video, who in their right mind would actually ever invite an interaction with the police? It could be you who gets dragged off and tasered.

The best course of action is to always avoid contact with the police. Don't go where they are, and for god sake, don't call them!
 
2007-09-19 01:21:41 PM
Theaetetus: There was no chance of his causing damage to others.

Unless he managed to break a hand free and grab a gun, or gouge an eye. Or break a nose.
 
2007-09-19 01:21:41 PM
bigbadideasinaction: "All of your rights are forefit when a man with a badge is standing within 5 feet of you. They're not really so much 'rights' as 'guidelines'."

Thankfully there are people out there with more spine than you. Now be quiet about it or else you're getting a tasering.


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2007-09-19 01:21:56 PM
YoungSwedishBlonde: HotWingConspiracy: Bullshiat. They use them on people for far less than that. Examples abound. Give a mongoloid a cattle prod and tell him he can't get in trouble for shocking people and the fun begins.

More farkin' hyperbole. I wish I could live in such a black and white world where every cop is a "mongoloid with a cattle prod". It would definitely make life simpler by just relying on preconceived notions rather than having to actually go through the long, boring, intellectually challenging process of having to make judgments based on the merits of each individual case. And to think I'm the one being called a "sheep"...


Whoa shiat, I didn't realize I was dealing with an enlightened one. My opinion about cops comes directly from my experiences with them. Useless, violent, power tripping. I would never rely on them to "protect" me because they CAN'T. They'll come fill out a farking piece of paper when the action is over. Don't dare ask them too many questions, or they might take exception to your "attitude", and you'll go to jail for the night. And for the love of christ, DO NOT fill out a complaint form. Your life will become quite interesting. I see them as nothing more than thieves and mindless enforcers for the state. Hence, I avoid them at all costs.
 
2007-09-19 01:22:03 PM
I don't like that they HAD to taser him, but they did. If they had tried to subdue him with a big wrestling match and an injury resulted (he hits his head on a wall or a bench, or someone in the audience got hurt because of it) what would happen next? You got it: call in the lawyers. These days, cities would rather put a stop to things with 50,00 volts to the out-of-line person than chance someone ending up in the ICU or a wheelchair, and a lawsuit to defend against.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that's the way it is. Public is forewarned: municipalities can't afford to fark around.
 
2007-09-19 01:23:02 PM
UpstateMonkey: You're an idiot. The next time you're in trouble and need the cops, I hope 911 is busy.

You're an asshole. Next time some thug cop stomps on your Constitutional rights I hope you remember this conversation.
Cops have never once helped me in any way whatsoever. That's not their job; look it up, genius.
 
2007-09-19 01:23:08 PM
I don't know why but when i read the headline "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for a dude to be all like "Don't tase me bro" more people need to be all like "WTF?" and "That's totally not cool"

I was thinking of food for some reason "course" and read it as "Don't Taste me bro"
 
2007-09-19 01:24:11 PM
Ctrl-Alt-Del: Fark_Guy_Rob: Can anyone tell me in a simple, easy to understand fashion; why the kid needed to be tased?

Because he was agitated, aggressive, AND RESISTING ARREST. Even with four cops holding him, he continued to physically resist, and would not allow them to handcuff him.


Wrong. The cuffs were on him when he got tased.
 
2007-09-19 01:24:19 PM
dudemanbro: UpstateMonkey: You're an idiot. The next time you're in trouble and need the cops, I hope 911 is busy.

You're an asshole. Next time some thug cop stomps on your Constitutional rights I hope you remember this conversation.
Cops have never once helped me in any way whatsoever. That's not their job; look it up, genius.


I'm sorry you have so many run-ins with the cops...sounds like you have a larger issue to manage.
 
2007-09-19 01:24:41 PM
UpstateMonkey: You're an idiot. The next time you're in trouble and need the cops, I hope 911 is busy.

So because cops do admirable act A, they should get off the hook when they do deplorable act B? Cute.
 
2007-09-19 01:24:43 PM
Ctrl-Alt-Del: Unless he managed to break a hand free and grab a gun, or gouge an eye. Or break a nose.

Or unleash his Wolverine claws. Or go nuclear. Or shoot lasers from his eyes.
Let's stick to reality rather than strawmen, okay? If six trained cops can't detain one unarmed guy who's already on the ground, and who's not some sort of ninja or pirate without resorting to a taser, they don't deserve to be cops any more. It also makes me wonder what the police did for the centuries prior to the invention of the taser.
 
2007-09-19 01:25:02 PM
UpstateMonkey: The next time you're in trouble and need the cops, I hope 911 is busy.

If someone's trying to hurt or kill you, don't waste your time calling 911. By the time the cops get there, the situation will be resolved one way or the other.

I've called the cops two times before, to report break-ins to my car. I didn't expect them to do anything, and they told me they wouldn't be doing anything. I just needed the police report number for my insurance company.
 
2007-09-19 01:25:07 PM
American_Piglet

Do you have to fill out a mountain of "taser discharge" paperwork like when you discharge your sidearm, or is it just considered "all in a day's work"?

BTW, if you think the application of intense pain to gain submission is alright, I guess you're on-board with tasering confessions out of suspects as well.
 
2007-09-19 01:25:22 PM
Anybody want some really personal information about the witnesses or the suspect in this case? UF has posted them online for the world to see, complete with ages, weights, addresses, phon numbers, student ID numbers, ect)

Follow link:


Link
 
2007-09-19 01:25:35 PM
Alright,

It is obvious from this video that he was not punching or kicking. He even spreads his arms out wide so not to give the impression. When they tackle him he grabs a chair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ndctwAJmU

And I don't think my fellow liberals should even engage on this topic anymore. If it was up too the "FOX news army" they would have Tazed the Dixie Chicks, Too a conservative free speech only protects what conservatives have to say.
 
2007-09-19 01:26:02 PM
Theaetetus: Or unleash his Wolverine claws. Or go nuclear. Or shoot lasers from his eyes.

Hahaha perfect.
 
2007-09-19 01:27:07 PM
Theaetetus: It also makes me wonder what the police did for the centuries prior to the invention of the taser.

Look at it like old-school football versus new-school football.

Cops of yesteryear were the Ditkas of cops.

Cops today are the "Icepack" McNabb of cops.
 
2007-09-19 01:28:09 PM
dudemanbro: That's because fascism was never as popular as it is today. If you think the cops were right to subdue and taser this kid you are part of the problem, not the solution.
Seig farking heil, asshats.


Methinks someone needs to go back to school and learn what fascism is...

Or ask a holocaust survivor.
 
2007-09-19 01:28:33 PM
I see most people make up their minds before watching the video. And watched the video to pick up the points that would support one's political stand and bias.

That was a good tasering to me, and I'm as liberal as they come.
 
2007-09-19 01:28:50 PM
UpstateMonkey: I'm sorry you have so many run-ins with the cops...sounds like you have a larger issue to manage.

Never said I did, just that they've never helped me because that's not their job. But like every other small-minded prick who thinks they know it all, you don't actually bother to read or find out the truth of things, you just go along with whatever bullshiat you're fed. You are part of the reason the Constitution is being gutted and our nation is slowly sliding into a fascist mentality. So fark off and die.
 
2007-09-19 01:29:44 PM
let's call it what it is...all across the country, the pigs have been armed with a new toy. they use it every chance they get...whether warranted or not.
 
2007-09-19 01:30:08 PM
American_Piglet: The newest tasers are about the size of a small squirt gun and can be carried on a duty belt. Everybody's got em. But uses of force involving tasers hasn't increased.

That's categorically incorrect.

I remember because I submitted this article to Fark:

Here
 
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2007-09-19 01:30:27 PM
Tastes Like Chicken: And obviously I mean in cases where you aren't being charged with something. If you are being charged, hell yeah they can force you to do things. But I don't see how asking someone to leave and them saying no is cause for assault.

At the moment you refuse, you are trespassing. That's a crime.
 
2007-09-19 01:31:10 PM
Gadren: UpstateMonkey: You're an idiot. The next time you're in trouble and need the cops, I hope 911 is busy.

So because cops do admirable act A, they should get off the hook when they do deplorable act B? Cute.


That's not what I'm saying...I just don't find what the cops did here deplorable. He was asked to leave, resisted, got tasered to bring him under control. Honestly, he sounded like an over-privelaged asshat who thought the law didn't apply and he got what he deserved.

Many obviously disagree with this, but rules are in place for a reason and I don't think that the cops over-reacted (in this instance).
 
2007-09-19 01:31:16 PM
YoungSwedishBlonde: Pope: So, cops can arrest me whenever they see fit, for whatever reason and if I resist I can be tased? Doesn't sound quite right to me.

He was detained and charged with "disruption of an educational event" according to news reports. If you do not agree with that charge, you are allowed to fight it IN COURT. Just because you do not agree with why you are being arrested does not give you to right to physically resist arrest.


Actually, you are legaly allowed to resist unlawful arrest. This is a gray area however.
 
2007-09-19 01:32:25 PM
stappawho: Pope: So, cops can arrest me whenever they see fit, for whatever reason for trespassing and if I resist I can be tased? Doesn't sound quite right to me.

I don't see an issue with that.


Um, he wasn't tresspassing.
 
2007-09-19 01:32:35 PM
he's lucky the ss didn't get to him. kerry is a US senator after all, reagardless of what you may think of him.
 
2007-09-19 01:32:51 PM
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2007-09-19 01:33:27 PM
Pope,

As soon as he was asked to leave and refused he turned into a trespasser. So, yes, he was trespassing.
 
2007-09-19 01:33:38 PM
SchlingFo: American_Piglet: Most people trust cops.

I don't trust cops.

Most cops aren't abusive assholes.

However, most cops will turn a blind eye to, if not cover for, the ones that are abusive assholes.

And, we all know what the attitude is toward the Serpicos.

I don't break the law, and I live a good life, but I stay as far away from cops as possible. I don't have anything personally against y'all, but I don't want anything to do with you.


True the pressure to look the other way is great, but the pressure to report abusive officers is great too. Nobody wants to work with an abusive partner officer, I don't want to lose my job and house for not reporting an abusive partner. And nobody wants to report another officer who punches some guy needlessly because:

1. The suspect probably had it coming.
2. The officer is generally a good guy and just screwed up.
3. you dont want to see the officer fired, lose his house, etc etc..just because he made a mistake and sucker punched someone who would rip your face off if given the chance.
4. The officer has backed you up quite a few calls and may have saved your ass more than once.

Most family members turn a blind eye when another family member does something really wrong. They protect each other...like a mother protecting her son from the police saying he's not home when he is. Now cops may not be real family members in the true sense of the word, but it sure does feel that way.

But do cops need to report abuse? Absolutely. And they do, and it doesn't always end up like Serpico.
 
2007-09-19 01:33:45 PM
bisenbek: he's lucky the ss didn't get to him. kerry is a US senator after all, reagardless of what you may think of him.

Definitely didn't get Secret Service from SS the first time I read that.
 
2007-09-19 01:33:59 PM
Pope: Um, he wasn't tresspassing trasspassing.

FTFY

/Pet Peeve
 
2007-09-19 01:35:23 PM
Winterstar: Methinks someone needs to go back to school and learn what fascism is...

Or ask a holocaust survivor.


I know exactly what fascism is, and used to live next door to a holocaust survivor, which is part of the reason I call bullshiat on things like this.

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

From Liberty Forum

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_constitution&Number=64 2
109&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=-1

Perhaps you would like to explain how the U.S. is not becoming more and more fascist everyday?
 
2007-09-19 01:35:48 PM
etymxris: It does not make sense to me that a man pinned on the ground by four police officers could prevent himself from being handcuffed, even without billy clubs and tasers.

I've seen a man pinned to the ground with seven officers on him and he continued to resist. He was so resistant, in fact, that he ended up with a fractured radius (the cops had no tasers). I think the taser is a fine alternative to a broken arm.
 
2007-09-19 01:35:57 PM
September 19, 2017

WASHINGTON, DC

This afternoon, at 4:00, police officers carried out two "instant executions" at a political rally for the President.

The President was speaking to the public about his latest plans to invade Syria. After his speech, the microphone was opened up for approved public speeches of support. Andrew Meyer, previously charged with illegal speech, approached the microphone out of turn and asked an unapproved question, even going so far as to criticize the President.

Shortly thereafter, police seized Meyer and pushed him to the ground. Declaring him guilty of treasonous speech, he was shot twice in the back of the head and carried away. His girlfriend, attempting to prevent the lawful execution, shouted angrily at the police, and was also executed for "unlawful attention whoring".

The crowd cheered and thanked the police for their patriotic service. Calling Meyer a "total douchebag," one attendee was quoted as saying, "If only we could all silence the attention-whoring douchebags who disrupt our events. God bless America!"
 
2007-09-19 01:36:12 PM
Pope: Um, he wasn't tresspassing.

If you're asked to leave by the property owner or their agent, and you do not, you are trespassing.
 
2007-09-19 01:37:03 PM
Here's the long version of the video -- this guy was being an obnoxious douchebag. After seeing this, I have no pity for him whatsoever. He had what was coming to him -- yeah, the tasering may have been to far, but they were just cutting off his mic and going to escort him out because he was just going to keep on rambling to no end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE76LQwT6qA
 
2007-09-19 01:37:03 PM
amquelbettamin: Anybody want some really personal information about the witnesses or the suspect in this case? UF has posted them online for the world to see, complete with ages, weights, addresses, phon numbers, student ID numbers, ect)

Interesting from that link is the police reports of their own actions... Aside from the fact that they don't coincide with what's on the video, they frequently don't corroborate each other's statements.
 
2007-09-19 01:37:36 PM
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So the farkin' pig went on a vacation

This pig he is the chief
Got a brother pig captain o'malley
He's got a son that's a pig too
He's collectin' pay-offs from a dark alley

This pig is known as a narco
If he's a pig or not, we know that he could be
This pig he's a farkin' fag
So all his homepigs they call him a pussy

Well this pig he's really cool
So in this class we know he rides all alone
Well this pig's standin' eatin' donuts
While some motherfarkers out robbin' your home

This pig he's a big punk
And I know that he can't stand the sight of me
'cause pigs don't like it when ya act smart
And when ya tell 'em that you're a group from society

This pig works for the mafia
Makin' some money off crack
But this little pig got caught
So when he gets to the pen it's all about the pay-back

'cause once he gets to the pen
They won't provide the little pig with a bullet-proof vest
To protect him from some mad nubian
Who he shot in the chest and placed under arrest

An' it's all about breakin' off sausage
Do ya feel sorry for the poor little swine?
nubians wanna do him in the ass
Just ta pay his ass back, so they're standin' in line

That farkin' pig
Look what he got himself into
Now they're gonna make some pigs feet outta this little punk
Anybody like pork-chops?
How 'bout a ham sandwich?
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2007-09-19 01:38:01 PM
Winterstar Methinks someone needs to go back to school and learn what fascism is...

Me too.

When fascism came to Germany, there was no holocaust. Also, there have been other holocausts in the absence of fascism.

Moral: fascism =/= holocaust.
 
2007-09-19 01:38:12 PM
Supercheeks: I've seen a man pinned to the ground with seven officers on him and he continued to resist. He was so resistant, in fact, that he ended up with a fractured radius (the cops had no tasers). I think the taser is a fine alternative to a broken arm.

That's the exception, rather than the rule.

And, accordingly, use of tasers should be the exception, rather than the rule.

However, tasers are being used as the rule.
 
2007-09-19 01:38:55 PM
Theaetetus: But at 6 vs 1, there's no need to use a taser, particularly since he was already on the ground. He wasn't fighting, though he was resisting. There was no chance of his causing damage to others. The cops were not in fear for their lives. They used an inappropriate amount of force, because they were either lazy (and didn't want to break a sweat - thanks Piglet) or because they wanted to teach him a lesson.
Neither of those are good reasons.


That is one part I'm unsure of. I'm not sure what the protocol is - I've heard that there are only certain physical steps they're allowed to take to subdue people, so they don't get injured.
 
2007-09-19 01:39:30 PM
American_Piglet: True the pressure to look the other way is great, but the pressure to report abusive officers is great too. Nobody wants to work with an abusive partner officer, I don't want to lose my job and house for not reporting an abusive partner. And nobody wants to report another officer who punches some guy needlessly because:

1. The suspect probably had it coming.
2. The officer is generally a good guy and just screwed up.
3. you dont want to see the officer fired, lose his house, etc etc..just because he made a mistake and sucker punched someone who would rip your face off if given the chance.
4. The officer has backed you up quite a few calls and may have saved your ass more than once.

Most family members turn a blind eye when another family member does something really wrong. They protect each other...like a mother protecting her son from the police saying he's not home when he is. Now cops may not be real family members in the true sense of the word, but it sure does feel that way.


Oh, I understand the reasons why.

But, regardless of the reasons why they continue to turn a blind eye towards, or cover up for, the abusive assholes, the fact remains that they do it.

And, that's why I don't trust cops.
 
2007-09-19 01:40:09 PM
dudemanbro: UpstateMonkey: I'm sorry you have so many run-ins with the cops...sounds like you have a larger issue to manage.

Never said I did, just that they've never helped me because that's not their job. But like every other small-minded prick who thinks they know it all, you don't actually bother to read or find out the truth of things, you just go along with whatever bullshiat you're fed. You are part of the reason the Constitution is being gutted and our nation is slowly sliding into a fascist mentality. So fark off and die.


Easy there big guy. Tell me about this "truth" wise one. If you're talking about free speech, this student has the right to address the group with what ever he feels. That said, there were rules to this debate and he didn't abide by them, and I'm sure they were outlined before the debate even started. That makes this guy either deaf or stupid. If he wanted to continue, ask a follow up question, go out side and get a podium, but abide by the rules set forth.
 
2007-09-19 01:41:03 PM
SchlingFo: American_Piglet: The newest tasers are about the size of a small squirt gun and can be carried on a duty belt. Everybody's got em. But uses of force involving tasers hasn't increased.

That's categorically incorrect.

I remember because I submitted this article to Fark:

Here


It only takes one officer to improperly use a new tool to screw it up for everybody else. I'm sure that if my department allowed us to mount tactical lasers on our pistols that some officer out of the 9,000 we have would go around pointing lasers at people as he drives down the street as a joke...and there'd be an article "OFFICERS LASE PEOPLE - USE OF NEW TAC LASER CALLED INTO QUESTION" and people would foam at the mouth and the ACLU would call for a ban on all tac lasers.

If uses of the TASER are in fact increasing, I would believe it's because officers now have a device to better handle situations that they didn't have before. I wouldn't be alarmed about it like I would if uses of the PR-24 baton were increasing.

If officers all of a sudden had access to a smaller pistol size version of a beanbag shotgun I'm sure uses of beanbag devices would increase.
 
2007-09-19 01:41:23 PM
A taserin'.... you'll get over it.
 
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