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2007-09-17 12:00:35 PM
Dovienya: They can wear their pants correctly, they just choose not to in order to project a certain image. That's like saying, "Guys with long hair don't know how to go to a barber! They're all stupid!" Saggers may not be projecting an image that you like or can identify with, but that doesn't make them idiots.

It's not about projecting an image, it's about being different or attention whoring. Long hair isn't a big deal nowadays, and frankly isn't really a compromise to functionality.

But with your pants around your ankles, you can hardly walk properly, let alone put things in your pocket, and/or hide your shame. It's hardly conducive to a proper work environment.

It's not the style of pants or shorts that I'd question. It's that they can't even wear them right. Just like you can have long hair, but if you don't brush it, and clean it, you're gonna cause problems (smelling bad and getting sick being amongst the first two).

You have a point here, to some degree, but it's not illegal to be poor, or have a crappy education, or whatever. It's their decision. There are plenty of unemployed or poorly-employed people out there who don't sag. And remember, just because you don't know of any "decent" people who sag, doesn't mean there aren't any. Again, the IT guys at my job sag and I'm sure they're making decent money. Some (though not all) of them even have college degrees.

Sag is just another word for "juvenile." Like they're trying to impress with how counter-culture they can be. They're basically the lower-class version of emo. Oh look, I come from the streets, bro, lived the tough life, I is all gangsta y0, etc...

You can wear the fubu shorts/hat/etc. Just be functional and practical about it.
 
2007-09-17 12:03:43 PM
I'm currently doing time for wearing baggy clothes, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2007-09-17 12:04:12 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:

why do you always bring up race in these threads?

/just wondering
 
2007-09-17 12:09:00 PM
I think that in a professional environment, you should dress professionally, especially if you want to succeed. That means properly fitting slacks, proper shoes (not sneakers), a button up shirt, neatly trimmed hair and or beard, and maybe properly fitted jeans on Friday if that's the type of environment your work in.

It's ok to sport your FUBU at work, or "bust a sag", but don't be surprised when you're the first one laid off, or you never get a promotion or a raise. You can be different, just expect to be treated differently.
 
2007-09-17 12:09:03 PM
Long hair isn't a big deal nowadays, and frankly isn't really a compromise to functionality.

It isn't a big deal nowadays, but it used to be. I don't know that anyone ever tried to make it illegal, but I guarantee people said the same things about "long haired hippies" that people now say about "thugs who can't even pull up their pants."

But with your pants around your ankles, you can hardly walk properly, let alone put things in your pocket, and/or hide your shame. It's hardly conducive to a proper work environment.

If you're just concerned with functionality, then why are high heels and short skirts still legal? I've seen plenty of women fall in those shoes or unintentionally flash a little panty. Why is sagging so inferior?

Like they're trying to impress with how counter-culture they can be.

I totally agree. The IT guys at work aren't gangsta; they sit around and discuss video games and anime. But I certainly don't think it should be illegal for them to dress how they please, as long as I don't have to see actual nudity.
 
2007-09-17 12:09:22 PM
I'm conflicted.

I hate those baggy pants but I'm not real crazy about laws being enacted to ban them because that can set a nasty precedent which can be used to create a whole snakes nest of stupid laws.

However in the not too distant past, there have been laws regulating what swim wear you can wear at the beach or public pools, especially back when the bikini first made its appearance and later, the thong.

(There really needs to be laws banning fat, hairy old cigar smoking men from wearing plum smugglers at a public beach.)

Provided they craft the law as 'well' as they've crafted sexual offender laws, baggy pants can still be worn provided the owner wears a belt;

On the other hand, the cops will mourn the passing of the baggy pants because they catch a lot of crooks who run while wearing them and get tripped up when they fall down around their ankles.

Back in the 50s, wearing just a white T-shirt was a sign of 'toughness' and usually worn by guys who had hot cars and liked to speed.

Now, if you're going after the baggy pants, you need to go after the primarily young Hispanic style of swaggering around wearing an undershirt everywhere and a hair net.

While they're crafting laws concerning offensive dress, maybe they need to look at fashion designers who seem to secretly hate women and insist on producing forms of clothing I'd not give a dog. Those ridiculiously pointy-toed high heel shoes that are the rage make chicks look like they have huge feet. Previously, designers came out with the pleated front trousers for chicks which added about 20 lbs and made them look like they were getting their period.

The pleated front trousers for guys just made them look ridiculous.

Should we talk about the Leisure Suit of the 70s?

Maybe they need to craft laws banning those huge sneakers that folks were killing each other to get some years ago and still make them look like they're wearing cartoon feet.

Anyone remember the Zute Suit? If a law should have been passed to ban some clothing, the Zute -- or Zoot -- suit should have been listed.

This all ought to be rather interesting, especially if the law gets ratified.
 
2007-09-17 12:09:26 PM
As someone mentioned earlier... the "sagging pants" originated in prison as to signify that you were "open for business".

That you would not put up a fight and were willing to be someones biatch...

Go ahead, scum bags.. continue making me laugh when I see your sagging pants.
 
2007-09-17 12:09:42 PM
8bit4life

I don't know, your knees are kind of pointy, but you're alright i guess.
 
2007-09-17 12:13:14 PM
ciberido: And that indeed is the problem: You don't see the difference.

This.
Ignore mmm...pancake. He's just a whiny Randroid who wants to have his cake and eat it too.
 
2007-09-17 12:16:09 PM
Uh oh, uh oh uh oh.....

imagecache2.allposters.com
 
2007-09-17 12:16:18 PM
mmm... pancake: Walker: Freedom of Expression. Look it up. Then go have a pancake.

Show me where expression is listed in the Constitution.


Poor trolling. Obvious and stupid. I think you over-egged the pudding with this one.
 
2007-09-17 12:22:30 PM
TFA:"Are they going to go after construction workers and plumbers, because their pants sag, too?"

Yes... yes they are. Now STFU and PUYP! (Pull up your pants)
 
2007-09-17 12:23:05 PM
I'd be cool with a law that fined people who allowed their butt-cracks to be on display in public - nothing at all sexy or cool about Plumber's Ass. Kinda gross, actually, especially if they don't wipe properly.

Other then that, I don't care.
 
2007-09-17 12:23:41 PM
Honestly, as long as they aren't showing anything that is illegal to show in public, this law most likely could be struck down as unconstitutional.


Around here at least, it's generally illegal to show asscrack. Outrageous examples have been prosecuted as public indecency, and have stuck.

/Misses women wearing loose chain-mail bikinis.
 
2007-09-17 12:24:49 PM
undercurrent: DROxINxTHExWIND:

why do you always bring up race in these threads?

/just wondering

==========================================

It's the 800 lbs. gorilla in the room.
 
2007-09-17 12:28:26 PM
As someone mentioned earlier... the "sagging pants" originated in prison as to signify that you were "open for business".

Hey, did you also know that Hitler's grandmother was Jewish? Nine moths after the great blackout in New York City, there was a huge baby boom. Daddy long legs are the most venomous spiders on earth, but their mouths are too small to bite a human. If you drink Coke with pop rocks, your stomach will asplode!

It's all true, 'cause someone said so! And I know someone who knew someone who worked at a prison before, and he said it, so it's doubly true!
 
2007-09-17 12:30:02 PM
But know, 20 years later on the other side of the country, the only saggers I see are white, middle class hood rats in their $100 skate shoes; who definitely need a visit from the fashion police, but not the real Police.

That makes the law sound better...if the only people doing it are middle class white kids, the law isn't discriminatory, and should do just fine. They need to put a large "fee" along with a conviction, and then they could pay down the deficit, because the middle class white kids could afford to pay it.

/sounds like a win/win to me
 
2007-09-17 12:33:38 PM
ianfer
DAMN.

Takes one sorry ass mofo to try and mac up in a fark room.


It takes an even greater "sorry ass mofo" to think that someone could actually "mac up" in a fark thread. Go suck a fark you cock-juggling thundercoont.

Also I gallantly succeeded in drawing attention to 8bit4life's profile pics (over 1000 more in the last hour or so).

\I tried to have cyber sex once but my John Thomas didn't fit in any of my monitor air vents
\\seriously 8bit4life has some of the coolest tats I've ever seen
/ZIM DOOM!
 
2007-09-17 12:35:32 PM
From TFA:The bare-your-britches fashion is believed to have started in prisons, where inmates aren't given belts with their baggy uniform pants to prevent hangings and beatings. By the late 80s, the trend had made it to gangster rap videos, then went on to skateboarders in the suburbs and high school hallways

Uh, I don't think so.

Baggy britches started as a way for gangbangers to hide large firearms like sawed-off shotguns in their pants. This has nothing to do with prison inmates.

*sniff* Yep, smells like Yahoo-sponsored AP pseudo-journalism to me.
 
2007-09-17 12:36:07 PM
Tight guy pants are way cooler anyways

upload.wikimedia.org

Oi Oi
 
2007-09-17 12:37:23 PM
GibbyTheMole: "Are they employed? Do they have a high school diploma?"

WTF difference does that make? Is being unemployed or not having a high school diploma illegal, too?

"In Atlanta, we see this as racial profiling," said Benetta Standly, statewide organizer for the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. "It's going to target African-American male youths."

Um... Doubtful. Benetta apparently hasn't seen the moron pushing for the law.

Assloads of stupid all around.


In other words, the lawmakers who sponsored this bill in Atlanta are Black.

 
2007-09-17 12:38:07 PM
Where would any thread be without DROxINxTHExWIND dropping tidbits from his MBA in Advanced Hatred of the White Devil and Volleyball.

When it snows DRO uses black spray paint to "fix" the snow around his house.

/just kiddin' DRO, all the love in the world brother!
 
2007-09-17 12:38:39 PM
desynch: That you would not put up a fight and were willing to be someones biatch...

Go ahead, scum bags.. continue making me laugh when I see your sagging pants.


Quit with the baggy pants/prison crap (new window)

News runners on the 24 hr channels have been propagating this urban legend since this story came out yesterday.

The reason why the kids are wearing baggy pants is because authority figures tell them not to. Now, I'm going to return to 2007 and leave this story in 1998 where it belongs.
 
2007-09-17 12:39:53 PM
If they ban saggy trousers how can I tell if I'm about to engage conversation with a moron? The clothes provide a public service in non-verbal communication.

Especially during job interviews. (Along with tats and facial/lip piercings.)
 
2007-09-17 12:45:49 PM
Tat'dGreaser: Tight guy pants are way cooler anyways



Oi Oi


you'd think so
 
2007-09-17 12:48:50 PM
Magorn:
I don't think itws an accidnet that this kind of pressure to conform came first during the "red scares" of the 50's and now during the "terrorism scares" (brown scares?)of the 00's

Brown scares? I thought that was another phrase for sharting.
 
2007-09-17 12:51:22 PM
I actually kind of like the baggy-pants look on the youngsters. I've always had a fondness for alternative fashion that kids come up with. Past a certain age, though, it looks just as ridiculous as those pathetic old geezers still wearing their '70's punk gear that they bought when they were kids.

That said, if you really hate the style, the best way to perpetuate it among the young is to make it illegal. Asshat laws are bad enough, but stupid asshat laws are unforgivable.
 
2007-09-17 12:56:00 PM
And the pussification of America continues.

xxyr.com
 
2007-09-17 01:01:34 PM
Personally I'd be all in favor of pulling those saggy pants down to their ankles based on the reasoning that either you wear your pants properly or don't wear them at all and that if their pants are down to their ankles, it would give me enough time to run away. :D
 
2007-09-17 01:06:37 PM
Now, wait a minute... did I miss something here?

A couple of hours ago this headline was different...

Why was it changed?
 
2007-09-17 01:08:00 PM
I just watched the mom jeans video. Awesome.
 
2007-09-17 01:13:12 PM
Clandestine digital operative: Where would any thread be without DROxINxTHExWIND dropping tidbits from his MBA in Advanced Hatred of the White Devil and Volleyball.

When it snows DRO uses black spray paint to "fix" the snow around his house.

/just kiddin' DRO, all the love in the world brother!

===============================================

LOL! Kidding or not, that was the best laugh I've had today.

"Advanced Hatred of the White Devil"

/literally, LOL.
 
2007-09-17 01:15:35 PM
8bit4life: Tat'dGreaser: Tight guy pants are way cooler anyways



Oi Oi

you'd think so


Oh I know so, but alas the tight girl jeans on a guy is for some reason popular. Lame.
 
2007-09-17 01:17:18 PM
HotWingConspiracy: I'd like a ban on fat chicks wearing sweatpants with words on the ass.

And another ban on wearing tube/halter/tank tops while showing your wide, white, cotton straps on your cheap Wal Mart bra. If you need the bra that badly, you shouldn't be wearing said tops anyhoo!

/calling Captain Obvious
 
2007-09-17 01:19:50 PM
A crackdown also is being pushed in Atlanta.

It's a crackdown, get it?
 
2007-09-17 01:21:31 PM
sounds like the proper type of decision for local levels of government to make. No one wants to see your ass hanging out punks.
 
2007-09-17 01:22:09 PM
1. Emulating prison lifestyle is probably the surest way to guarantee you'll spend some time there.

2. This "fashion" is utterly stupid. Pants don't go below the ass because there' nothing to hold them up down there. Constantly holding up your pants is stupid.

3. These laws are insane, unconstitutional, and will never hold up under any kind of scrutiny, and rightly so.

/my $.0000002
 
2007-09-17 01:22:44 PM
there' = there's

Damnit.
 
2007-09-17 01:23:58 PM
I don't care for these saggy pants one bit! You never know when some black guy's penis is going to pop out and make you feel all inadequate and small! I say pull the pants up and get a belt to keep them up. The only people who should be allowed to walk around with their pants down (or no pants) are women. Attractive women. They look good showing off their g-strings and such.
 
2007-09-17 01:24:29 PM
Ha ha! The textile industry is finally winning!!

No longer are clothes mean to protect humans from the elements! You are required by law to do business with the textile industry!! Obey!
 
2007-09-17 01:27:09 PM
mmm... pancake: That's the rationalization I get from people who want to tax me, regulate me, and ban me to death for laws that they agree with. I figure what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why wouldn't this same justification work in this case as well?

Because we live in a world that is not black and white. All issues have shades of gray and it's our job to decide on each one individually. There is no template to lay over all of our issues to see which way we should feel about them, contrary to what (liberal and conservative) talk radio says.
 
2007-09-17 01:27:58 PM
LiberalZombie: Ha ha! The textile industry is finally winning!!

No longer are clothes mean to protect humans from the elements! You are required by law to do business with the textile industry!! Obey!


In case you missed the last fifteen years...

Textile industry = China.
 
2007-09-17 01:32:54 PM
GnomePaladin:
Because we live in a world that is not black and white. All issues have shades of gray and it's our job to decide on each one individually. There is no template to lay over all of our issues to see which way we should feel about them, contrary to what (liberal and conservative) talk radio says.



Yes there is. It's called "would I like it if this were done to me?"

I'm not a big fan of cultural laws. We have an elected government. It's theoretically possible we could one day have a majority Hindu congress elected. Would you like it to have all leather and beef products outlawed over night? Take any minority group and imagine them with the reigns. What do you think they would try to do and do you think you'd like it?
 
2007-09-17 01:33:27 PM
Tat'dGreaser: 8bit4life: Tat'dGreaser: Tight guy pants are way cooler anyways



Oi Oi

you'd think so

Oh I know so, but alas the tight girl jeans on a guy is for some reason popular. Lame.


any guy who can handle wearing jeans that tight isn't packing enough heat for this girl.
 
2007-09-17 01:33:50 PM
I'd be willing to have votes on fashion. Up on the next ballot should be any article of lower-half clothing that exposes, for all the world to see:

A) More than two rolls of fat

or...

B) A full gunt

If you cannot pass this test, it's back to the closet for another try.
 
2007-09-17 01:35:23 PM
8bit4life: any guy who can handle wearing jeans that tight isn't packing enough heat for this girl.

You mean a guy wearing girl jeans right? What if they are tucking it!?!?
 
2007-09-17 01:37:55 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND
LOL! Kidding or not, that was the best laugh I've had today.

"Advanced Hatred of the White Devil"

/literally, LOL.


Well since you enjoyed that I'll have to add the references which were omitted initially for brevity.

"Advanced Hatred of the White Devil" is from How High, which is a damn funny movie even if you don't smoke teh Wiid (you just need to not be super conservative). The painting the snow black joke I indirectly quoted from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air but I'm pretty sure that they stole that from somewhere else. Wow I watch way too much TV.

/TV Casualty, TV Casualty! Back when teh Misfits were g00d.
//I'm too lazy to thunk up my own material.
 
2007-09-17 01:39:51 PM
"DROxINxTHExWIND 2007-09-17 12:24:49 PM
undercurrent: DROxINxTHExWIND:

why do you always bring up race in these threads?

/just wondering
==========================================

It's the 800 lbs. gorilla in the room."

Bwaahahahahaha.....
 
2007-09-17 01:45:40 PM
Clandestine digital operative: DROxINxTHExWIND
LOL! Kidding or not, that was the best laugh I've had today.

"Advanced Hatred of the White Devil"

/literally, LOL.

Well since you enjoyed that I'll have to add the references which were omitted initially for brevity.

"Advanced Hatred of the White Devil" is from How High, which is a damn funny movie even if you don't smoke teh Wiid (you just need to not be super conservative). The painting the snow black joke I indirectly quoted from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air but I'm pretty sure that they stole that from somewhere else. Wow I watch way too much TV.

/TV Casualty, TV Casualty! Back when teh Misfits were g00d.
//I'm too lazy to thunk up my own material.

=======================================

Yeah, I've seen "How High" a few times. It was "aiight", but obviously not good enough for me to remember specific quotes.
 
2007-09-17 01:50:26 PM
8bit4life: any guy who can handle wearing jeans that tight isn't packing enough heat for this girl.

Did I mention I wear Relaxed Fit jeans?
 
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