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(Harris Interactive)		Poll results say California, Florida, Hawaii are the most desirable American states to live in. Suck it, flyovers (harrisinteractive.com)		305
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floored_by_stupidity		2007-09-12 06:23:26 PM

usrid0: estream: usrid0: I'd love to live in California. Wait, I do, just in Fresno.

/lived in the bay area
//you don't live there for the real estate prices

Fresno? It's hard to believe that a whole town can have Down's Syndrome.

/would say the same about Lodi and Vacaville
//I keed. I know that some Fresno-ians must have the correct number of chromosomes.

I think it's been polluted by all the equity refugees from SoCal. Seriously the people that have populated this town from LA are more farked up than the locals.

Well, duh! You'd have to be retarded to move TO those cities...

rawkus		2007-09-12 06:23:31 PM

i'm moving from monterey, california to portland, oregon on saturday so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

nothing at all wrong with cali, love it to death but i've been here my whole life and it's time for something different. my job has suddenly turned into a swirling vortex of suck and rent is expensive, but the weather and people (esp. central coast) are the bomb.

EdNortonsTwin		2007-09-12 06:23:34 PM

I've lived in Cali all my life - where the F are all these hippies I keep hearing about? If you mean all the old punk-rockers then yea, I've seen them.

floored_by_stupidity		2007-09-12 06:25:10 PM

EdNortonsTwin: I've lived in Cali all my life - where the F are all these hippies I keep hearing about? If you mean all the old punk-rockers then yea, I've seen them.

Never been to San Francisco or Santa Cruz?

Spartan_Manhandler		2007-09-12 06:26:24 PM

Allen. The end.: OK, kind of a threadjack. I am being asked to transfer with my company from Seattle to Orange, California. Are you saying I would be better off nailing my nuts to a stepladder???

If you can afford Irvine, it's a nice area with good schools and a short commute. Orange has some nice canyon/foothill-type places to live. Public transit sucks. Stay away from Santa Ana.

Kome		2007-09-12 06:26:28 PM

Current Florida resident.
Lived in Jacksonville, Tampa, Orlando, and Gainesville (not in that order). If you visit this place you might want to live here. But as soon as you live here for more than about 15 minutes, you really want to get the f*ck out and go someplace sane. Especially Gainesville. Goddamn, I have never lived in such a bass-ackwards place full of people with the collective intelligence of a colony of termites until I lived in Gainesville.

daltrain		2007-09-12 06:26:41 PM

Robo Beat
I thought Central Jersey was quite lovely, save for the endless strip-mall of US 1.

Um, I have to disagree. Central Jersey has rent on a par with, say, Brooklyn or California (think $800 plus utilities for a studio apartment in a shiatty part of town) and traffic to match. Except there's NOTHING to do there that you can't do anywhere else.

How long ago did you leave?

usrid0		2007-09-12 06:27:05 PM

mpfjr: If it weren't for all the Mexicans I'd say California is the place to be.

However...

Wow, you're an asshat.

toejam		2007-09-12 06:28:25 PM

Good. Stay out of Minnesota.

/Has lived in many places
//Twin Cities FTW!

usrid0		2007-09-12 06:29:13 PM

floored_by_stupidity: usrid0: estream: usrid0: I'd love to live in California. Wait, I do, just in Fresno.

/lived in the bay area
//you don't live there for the real estate prices

Fresno? It's hard to believe that a whole town can have Down's Syndrome.

/would say the same about Lodi and Vacaville
//I keed. I know that some Fresno-ians must have the correct number of chromosomes.

I think it's been polluted by all the equity refugees from SoCal. Seriously the people that have populated this town from LA are more farked up than the locals.

Well, duh! You'd have to be retarded to move TO those cities...

Ah, now I get it!

Arnold T Pants		2007-09-12 06:30:13 PM

Who the fark wants to live in California? That is the last state I would ever live in.

Robo Beat		2007-09-12 06:30:32 PM

daltrain: Robo Beat
I thought Central Jersey was quite lovely, save for the endless strip-mall of US 1.

Um, I have to disagree. Central Jersey has rent on a par with, say, Brooklyn or California (think $800 plus utilities for a studio apartment in a shiatty part of town) and traffic to match. Except there's NOTHING to do there that you can't do anywhere else.

How long ago did you leave?

lessee... A while ago...Probably going on a decade. FWIW, I was near the Delaware Water Gap, much more rural and mountainous than Trenton or NNJ.

Princeton seemed nice to visit, but I don't know about living there...I have a feeling that the town/gown relation gets a bit strained from time to time.

Trust This Girl		2007-09-12 06:30:37 PM

I currently live in SW Florida - it's grossly hot, flat, and filled with a lot of fields full of weeds, and sandspurs. I am moving to VA in about 2 months, and can not WAIT to get the fark out and experience those things called "seasons"

Virulency		2007-09-12 06:30:51 PM

poll seems flawed... methodology seems flawed... state and city ranking seem to just jump spots certain years for some reason...

ChadM89		2007-09-12 06:31:45 PM

Born and raised in California. Couldn't imagine living anywhere else.

Yeah, it costs more but guess what? I get paid more too.

I've lived in quite a few places up and down this state. It's such a big place that different regions do indeed have their own unique feel and lifestyle. But I can't imagine the worst of them being as bad as basically any place in the bible belt. [shudder]

toejam		2007-09-12 06:32:20 PM

Can't we all get along and start hating the rest of the world again?

kidd		2007-09-12 06:33:08 PM

If you were lucky enough to buy a house in CA before the insane housing market (which basically means never in places like SF), you're sitting pretty, if not, good luck. shiat man, houses in the central valley cost 250 grand more than houses in Minneapolis/St. Paul and are about half the size. Plus, the avg salary is less than Minneapolis. Moreover, most people would rather live in the Bay or someplace more cosmopolitan anyhow (i.e. not the valley).

Pontius Gandalf		2007-09-12 06:34:18 PM

Living in California, you stand a better chance of seeing Jessica Alba in a sundress, getting surprised by some automatic sprinklers. Also, our governor's a cyborg.

toejam		2007-09-12 06:35:10 PM

Pontius Gandalf

Yeah, but just remember good old Jesse "The Mind" (shudder) paved the way for Ahnold!

sweddjen		2007-09-12 06:35:21 PM

usrid0: I'd love to live in California. Wait, I do, just in Fresno.

The Central Valley is like an Oklahoman outpost. It's flyover territory too, imo.

SF/Oakland/Berkely/Marin is worth every penny.

duncangonuts		2007-09-12 06:37:20 PM

*Notices North Carolina is #4 on the list. Hopes no one else notices.

/ You totally don't want to move here, it's awful.
// You wouldn't like it.
/// Honest.

PC LOAD LETTER		2007-09-12 06:37:46 PM

Hawaii is expensive and has no economy outside of Honolulu if you are not in the tourist industry. But it is amazing there.

Florida is a farking dump. A flat wasteland with a horrid culture. And tons of crime. Screw you FL. I hate you more and more everytime I visit the inlaws.

CA is awesome, but expensive. I do not like the homeless there: way too aggressive. And I am from NYC.

EVERYBODY PANIC		2007-09-12 06:37:53 PM

Without Florida, Fark would be just that much quieter and that much more boring.

Born here. Moved away. Am back.

Chakat		2007-09-12 06:38:59 PM

twincamakiko

You lived in Fresno. I'd rather live up Dubya's ass than live in Fresno. It and Bakersfield are the two pits of the outstretched arms that is California.

Seriously, comparing Fresno to Washington is completely unfair. Try using a part of the state that doesn't suck, like San Diego, or San Francisco.

El_Dan		2007-09-12 06:40:02 PM

Let all the idiots who think California and Florida are nice places to live move there. Without them, other states will be nicer to live in.

SynthLord		2007-09-12 06:40:03 PM

I live in Florida, but it's Tampa, so it's not so exciting. Busch Gardens and death-metal bands everywhere. Whoopity-doo.

You couldn't pay me to live in (The Democratic People's Republic of) California.

You could, however, pay me to live in Hawaii.

The auction begins in 5, 4, 3, 2 ...

BadSpongeBob		2007-09-12 06:40:04 PM

Those numbers would change drastically for Cali if only polled current residents. I'm an L.A. native and hate it. A lot of people I know want to get out because it's turning into Mexifornia.* But it's so hard to leave when you have a lifetime of roots here, and the grandparents provide free babysitting.

*Spare me the "That's wacist!" crap. Until you live in the middle of a flood of uneducated peasant illegals, who shut down hospital ERs, drive in uninsured cars, and destroy the public school system, you don't have a clue.

usrid0		2007-09-12 06:40:11 PM

Arnold T Pants: Who the fark wants to live in California? That is the last state I would ever live in.

37 million people?

Sliceablekitty		2007-09-12 06:40:15 PM

I'd love it here in Wisconsin if the winters were shorter.

I spent a little time in Cali this summer and I expect I'll be back on a permanent basis within the next five years.

The problems that I see are that here I own two big, beautiful houses. There I'll be lucky to afford rent. But the weather makes it a fair trade.

NANCY'S MEAT PUPPET		2007-09-12 06:40:26 PM

I live in northern Nevada and it has become "Eastern California".

/Please go back

Shocktopus		2007-09-12 06:41:06 PM

Allen. The end.: OK, kind of a threadjack. I am being asked to transfer with my company from Seattle to Orange, California. Are you saying I would be better off nailing my nuts to a stepladder???

-kind of threadjack over-

Orange isn't bad. Same traffic, better weather than Seattle. Although I hope you like Asians. With cars.

/not saying 'driving' because whatever they're doing in there, that ain't it.

JDAT		2007-09-12 06:41:06 PM

It's the land, not the State government or people.

ChadM89		2007-09-12 06:42:04 PM

California's "Central Valley" is bigger than many entire states, sweddjen, so you have to take into consideration that the part(s) you experienced cannot possibly represent all of it.

Like usrid0, I lived in Fresno too. All through junior high and high school. I moved out of there a year after I graduated HS (which was in '94, so I moved in '95).

I came north again and live near Sacramento now. The two places are both considered in the central valley, but they're quite far apart and really nothing at all alike in the social/cultural sense.

Your mileage may vary.

Ditto		2007-09-12 06:42:21 PM

duncangonuts: *Notices North Carolina is #4 on the list. Hopes no one else notices.

/ You totally don't want to move here, it's awful.
// You wouldn't like it.
/// Honest.

I've been focusing my current job search on Charlotte.

tortilla burger		2007-09-12 06:42:37 PM

I can deal with this kind of Floridian.

www.dailyhaha.com

Gooseycheeks		2007-09-12 06:42:55 PM

Good, hopefully this means a few more people will go ahead and just flyover on out of this state.

Parkki		2007-09-12 06:43:27 PM

Shocktopus: Allen. The end.: OK, kind of a threadjack. I am being asked to transfer with my company from Seattle to Orange, California. Are you saying I would be better off nailing my nuts to a stepladder???

-kind of threadjack over-

Orange isn't bad. Same traffic, better weather than Seattle. Although I hope you like Asians. With cars.

/not saying 'driving' because whatever they're doing in there, that ain't it.

"Based on stereotypes that are completely untrue, you may be a bad driver."
"Oh, man! Am I a woman?"

bulok		2007-09-12 06:44:46 PM

Ditto: duncangonuts: *Notices North Carolina is #4 on the list. Hopes no one else notices.

/ You totally don't want to move here, it's awful.
// You wouldn't like it.
/// Honest.

I've been focusing my current job search on Charlotte.

Charlotte is such a shiat hole. There's people getting shot or car jacked every day and jobs pay crap.

You've been warned.

sweddjen		2007-09-12 06:45:40 PM

As a California I have to say there's a lot of appeal to our secessionist movement.

We got the world's 8th largest economy.... I think we'd be fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californian_independence

/only (half) kidding... kinda

exvaxman		2007-09-12 06:45:46 PM

Florida where I was 20 years ago was great - now I wouldn't go near it. Way to crowded. Same with California for the most part - the places where I would like to live would not allow me to live my lifestyle. Hawaii - shoot, even 20 years ago several boat rental places made sure that you know there was a (shotgun, other firearm) "hidden" under the seat "Just in case". I do miss living on a boat there though. Kiving in a flyover state now. What is surprising is how many california families are moving into our area because they want the kids to grow up in a "decent" environment (their words, not mine).

Parkki		2007-09-12 06:45:51 PM

ChadM89: California's "Central Valley" is bigger than many entire states, sweddjen, so you have to take into consideration that the part(s) you experienced cannot possibly represent all of it.

Like usrid0, I lived in Fresno too. All through junior high and high school. I moved out of there a year after I graduated HS (which was in '94, so I moved in '95).

I came north again and live near Sacramento now. The two places are both considered in the central valley, but they're quite far apart and really nothing at all alike in the social/cultural sense.

Your mileage may vary.

Whew, that makes me feel a little better. I am relocating from Oregon to the Sacramento area in a couple of months, and some of the vitrol against the valley concerned me a little bit. How do you like the Sacramento area?

Gooseycheeks		2007-09-12 06:46:08 PM

NANCY'S MEAT PUPPET: I live in northern Nevada and it has become "Eastern California".

/Please go back

All of the states in the west have been Californicated.

Idahornia, Washingornia, Caligon, Nevadafornia, Calutah.

It's so sad, they all move from California to get away from it's problems, but have some strange desire to impose them upon us and constantly talk about how, "Well, back in Cali, we used to..."

biatch, you moved from Cali for a reason, let it go.

usrid0		2007-09-12 06:46:27 PM

Chakat: twincamakiko

You lived in Fresno. I'd rather live up Dubya's ass than live in Fresno. It and Bakersfield are the two pits of the outstretched arms that is California.

Seriously, comparing Fresno to Washington is completely unfair. Try using a part of the state that doesn't suck, like San Diego, or San Francisco.

The last time I was in Seattle (late 90's) all the chicks had mustaches, reminded me of Salem, OR.

kliq		2007-09-12 06:46:35 PM

NYC and me have problems. On the one hand, I enjoy all the nice things that comes with being in the biggest city in the country. On the other hand, there's the people...

OMG Angiepants		2007-09-12 06:46:55 PM

Plus four distinct seasons and little to no pollution.

I'm fine where I am, thanks.

/i know you like to come here for vacation
//spend your money and gtfo

rcain		2007-09-12 06:47:04 PM

I live in SF, and I have to say I am a lucky, lucky man to live in the home I do.

farm2.static.flickr.com

view from my house

/My only gripe... is national park, can't own :(

Genghis John		2007-09-12 06:47:30 PM

No, this poll is all wrong!
Seattle and Washington are terrible hellholes. Gray and rainy all the time all year long. People here commit suicide daily. DO NOT MOVE HERE. Especially you sumbiatch californians driving up the housing prices.

/hell
//hole
///go away

Shocktopus		2007-09-12 06:47:43 PM

Spartan_Manhandler: Stay away from Santa Ana.

Hey now. He didn't specify, so maybe the 'company' that is transferring him is the Latin Kings. If so, he'll fit in just fine.

AlabamaGirl		2007-09-12 06:48:02 PM

what's wrong with Alabama?

Poopspasm		2007-09-12 06:48:12 PM

Arnold T Pants: Who the fark wants to live in California? That is the last state I would ever live in

Everyone who visits. You don't want to live here? Cool. More for me. Have fun in Iowa.

You can have this:

www.fluffhouse.org.uk