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(Miami Herald)   Man shot by cops wanted for slaying, carjacking and high speed chase was found to already have an ankle bracelet on that monitors his whereabouts at all times   (miamiherald.com) divider line 88
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2007-09-10 01:57:10 PM  
Solution: More prisons to accommodate drug users and surveillance cameras as far as the eye can see.
 
2007-09-10 03:00:56 PM  
But they knew where he was the whole time he was committing those crimes...
 
2007-09-10 03:49:25 PM  
img508.imageshack.us

We should kill him, cook him, and eat him alive!

/Oh, I have my ways....
 
2007-09-10 03:50:56 PM  
img1.fark.com tag take the day off?
 
2007-09-10 03:52:45 PM  
That's a really good system tag and release!

I feel so safe!
 
2007-09-10 03:52:52 PM  
It's more than obvious that most cops are complete and total morons.

why do we put up with them still? Why aren't we cleaning house?

Anyone who wants to be a cop automatically should be ruled out. There should be a lottery. If your number comes up you accept of decline. If you accept be prepared for serious background checking and psych evals. No more nerds who got beat up in high school and jocks with small cocks.

Like cops? Watch this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2715792117793977759&
 
2007-09-10 03:52:52 PM  
Does anyone else find it suspicious that the cops forget a bout monitoring this guy, and then suddenly he becomes guilty of a slaying during a robbery? Gee, trump up charges much? Lets see...cops do a poor job, so they find a way to take the focus off themselves and put it on the person who probably did nothing more than go buy some milk or beer.

Shocking.
 
2007-09-10 03:52:56 PM  
Submitter found to already have an ankle bracelet on that monitors his whereabouts at all times


And it worked, too! They knew where he was all the while. Right there, proceeding eastward on Main Street approaching Elm. Check that - northbound on Elm Street. Wait. Make that eastbound again, this time on Oak Street. Wait. OK. Stopped at Oak & North.
 
2007-09-10 03:54:08 PM  
Miami-Dade.... Hmmm.... Why does this not surprise me.

His name is not Chad is it?
 
2007-09-10 03:54:15 PM  
But if it is illegal to take your ankle bracelet off, only the criminals will... wait, I forgot what we're talking about.
 
2007-09-10 03:54:22 PM  
The parties responsible for monitoring the free-roaming crackheads have been sacked. In the meantime, I've got one more reason to stock up on ammo.
 
2007-09-10 03:54:47 PM  
four95

Florida tag always trumps other tags
 
2007-09-10 03:55:32 PM  
amazing_live_seamonkeys [TotalFark] 2007-09-10 01:57:10 PM
Solution: More prisons to accommodate violent offenders and stop wasting space on stupid drug use.


FIFY

// never done drugs, it's just to criminalize it.
 
2007-09-10 03:56:48 PM  
In an e-mail to fellow judges, Blake wrote: ``If at all possible, try to be creative in bonds and sentences -- especially misdemeanors.''

I want you to write a short story about slaying, carjacking, and high speed chases. Remember to give sensory information and explore point of view, description, and dialogue.

/I'm going to need this double-spaced and typed in Times New Roman.
 
2007-09-10 03:57:34 PM  
four95: tag take the day off?

Florida tag always trumps the other tags.
 
2007-09-10 03:57:44 PM  
The best solution I can see in this case is to increase the minimum required training hours for police officers at the range.
 
2007-09-10 03:59:20 PM  
If anyone in this thread, including subby, had bothered to RTFS, they'd know that the device did NOT "monitor his whereabouts at all times." It RECORDED his whereabouts, and he had to periodically upload the data to the central computer. It was NOT a real-time system that kept track of where he was. So, sorry guys:

The police aren't morons

There was no reason to "trump up" anything. (And how does that work, exactly? Did the cops go out and shoot some random guy and then frame this poor innocent?)
 
2007-09-10 04:00:20 PM  
The real gist of this article, it seems, is that the reason this dude was free to start with is because their jail are SO overcrowded.

I wonder if they are EVER going to open their eyes to the real problem... If they were to eliminate ONE thing as being a crime, it would alleviate the overcrowding. Then violent offenders like this guy, wouldn't be out free. That one thing? Drug offenses.

WE NEED to decriminalize drugs. Making it a crime is a waste of money, time, and human life. The war on drugs is not being won at all. And countless lives are destroyed, more by the laws, than the drugs themselves.

Fact is, people are doing drugs anyway. What good does it do anyone to lock up users? What good does it do to lock up dealers?
NONE. No one benefits from it. Having all these people clogging up the system is a bigger problem than the drugs themselves ever have been...

And the fact that a violent criminal is running around free so some pot dealer can rot in a cell, is absolute proof!

This country needs to make a change. It's only going to get worse.
 
2007-09-10 04:00:51 PM  
Whoopty Whoo The Precious Bongo Boy: Does anyone else find it suspicious that the cops forget a bout monitoring this guy, and then suddenly he becomes guilty of a slaying during a robbery? Gee, trump up charges much? Lets see...cops do a poor job, so they find a way to take the focus off themselves and put it on the person who probably did nothing more than go buy some milk or beer.

Shocking.


WTF are you trying to say? Overcrowded jails and underfunded criminal justice systems are nothing new. People just do not want to pay to actually lock criminals up.

Are you really implying that the cops are falsifying charges? If he didn't do anything, THEN THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE ANKLE MONITOR SYSTEM! Why try to deflect attention away from something that isn't a problem...

Do the world a favor, and go DIAF.
 
2007-09-10 04:01:19 PM  
On Saturday, he visited his case manager and on Sundays was allowed to attend church from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.

Because he sounds like a real religious person...
 
2007-09-10 04:01:32 PM  
It is so obvious that we need a fence between Florida and the rest of the United States. The average IQ of the country minus Forida would gain at least 10 points.

I bet if Florida was an independant country it would rank just below Haiti in all categories.
 
2007-09-10 04:02:34 PM  
I've been farking for a few days and I was amazed you'd have a FLORIDA tag. And it always proves its value.
 
2007-09-10 04:03:24 PM  
jdemartino:

The police aren't morons

)

Um, yeah, they are. Do you come to fark much? Do you see the articles? Police are really *that* bad.

Are there good ones? Sure, but they need to knock off that, "protect my fellow jack off officers" bit because they loose credibility.
 
2007-09-10 04:04:37 PM  
jdemartino: The police aren't morons

LOL! Apparently you aren't overly familiar with cops. Anyone who chooses to be a minority stomping nazi enforcement thug is a moron. An evil moron, but a moron either way.

jdemartino: There was no reason to "trump up" anything. (And how does that work, exactly? Did the cops go out and shoot some random guy and then frame this poor innocent?)

Let me detail it for you: 1. Cops have job to do, and fail to do it because they are morons. 2. Cops are annoyed by this, and of course project their failure onto someone who had nothing to with it...in this case, the victim. 3. Cops take anger out on this victim by shooting him (hardly the first time this has happened of course). 4. Cops "find" a reason to shoot victim after victim is full of holes. Kind of a complicated "plant the gun" scenario.

This is not exactly a stretch. It happens frequently.
 
2007-09-10 04:05:28 PM  
Shvetz: Are you really implying that the cops are falsifying charges?

It would shock you if this happened? If so, you don't understand the police.
 
2007-09-10 04:06:00 PM  
First off, the cops don't put them on that program, the courts do. Secondly, it's the county that monitors them, not the police. And third, not all cops are bad. I read Fark plenty. But a op doing something nice or letting someone off with a warning doesn't make the news. Some douchebag cop who abuses his powers or kills someone for no reason always makes the news. So don't give me that line of bullshiat.
 
2007-09-10 04:08:22 PM  
www.abbottandcostellocollectibles.com

Or

www.cardsquad.com

or

texasholdemblogger.files.wordpress.com
 
2007-09-10 04:09:45 PM  
I wonder how many police bashers here know police officers personally... and I mean several officers, and I mean know them well.
 
2007-09-10 04:11:18 PM  
srtpointman

dunamai.com
 
2007-09-10 04:11:51 PM  
framitz: The average IQ of the country minus Forida would gain at least 10 points.


Uhhhh okay. I take it you live in Tampa?

/do I have to point it out?
/sentence structure and spelling dammit!
 
2007-09-10 04:12:35 PM  
AlabamaGirl: But they knew where he was the whole time he was committing those crimes...

No they didn't. The bracelet just tells them whether or not he was home during the crimes. It doesn't send out GPS data. The cops just get a call if he walks more than a few feet off his property.

FTA:
Jailers defend the ankle-monitor release program, saying there is always a risk when someone is let out behind bars. A monitoring program relying on a real-time Global Positioning System would likely prove too expensive, officials said.
 
2007-09-10 04:13:45 PM  
Koalaesq

I live in a town of a little more than 12,000 people. Not only do I know them. I know their highschool classmates. Parents. Ex's. Currents. Siblings. Friends...
 
2007-09-10 04:14:21 PM  
How water proof are those tags? Can they really take a beating in a daily situation and still remain water proof in a bath or shower? Seems to me that "accidently" cracking the case then taking a long bath would be a good way of getting freedom of movement.
 
2007-09-10 04:14:22 PM  
www.monstercable.com
 
2007-09-10 04:15:10 PM  
spiffjiggins
And EVERY COP you know is worthless and corrupt as some on this page would have us believe?
 
2007-09-10 04:16:09 PM  
Spiffjiggins: srtpointman

I've cut my hair since then.
 
oik
2007-09-10 04:17:13 PM  
durbnpoisn: UK here - we tried that. Our jails are full too. any better ideas?
 
2007-09-10 04:19:09 PM  
Koalaesq;

I have known several police officers and known them well as relatives, neighbors, and acquaintances.

Yes at least 70% of all the cops I've ever met qualify as morons.

Brother in law was a Monterey county sheriff deputy. We were cruising in his POV in Shell Beach CA, he was doing 80MPH on the frigging frontage road which had a limit of 45. I just wanted out of the car! We get pulled over, BIL lets the flap over his badge show so the cop could see it and he asked 'what's that?'. Once he saw the badge he just LET us GO! No ticket, no warning, no nothing for such reckless driving. The main reason my brother in law became a deputy was so he could get away with shiat and be a big man.

I somewhat got even; Borrowed his brand new car. At a red light I decided to burn off some rubber. Floored it, dumped the clutch and noticed the speedo reading 85+mph and realized I had started in third gear! Tires almost caught fire by the time I backed off. The dumb ass never knew what I did, but he had about 20,000 less miles than expected from those tires.

This is just ONE example. You won't convince me that the majority of police officers are not morons. They prove it at every turn.
 
2007-09-10 04:21:58 PM  
Koalaesq

To a certain degree? Yes. Completly currupt? No. Completly worthless? No. But drug sellers, who shoot themselves, use city credit cards and cell phones for personal use, allow convicted felons on restraining orders to contact the person's who ordered the orders because the cops and the fellon are friends, and so on and so on...
 
2007-09-10 04:22:55 PM  
Florida tag does something stupid in front of the other tags to get it arrested.
 
2007-09-10 04:24:12 PM  
Whoopty Whoo The Precious Bongo Boy: jdemartino: The police aren't morons

LOL! Apparently you aren't overly familiar with cops. Anyone who chooses to be a minority stomping nazi enforcement thug is a moron. An evil moron, but a moron either way.

jdemartino: There was no reason to "trump up" anything. (And how does that work, exactly? Did the cops go out and shoot some random guy and then frame this poor innocent?)

Let me detail it for you: 1. Cops have job to do, and fail to do it because they are morons. 2. Cops are annoyed by this, and of course project their failure onto someone who had nothing to with it...in this case, the victim. 3. Cops take anger out on this victim by shooting him (hardly the first time this has happened of course). 4. Cops "find" a reason to shoot victim after victim is full of holes. Kind of a complicated "plant the gun" scenario.

This is not exactly a stretch. It happens frequently.


Judging from your posts, I dont think you believe the cops have ever arrested a guilty man. I think you honestly believe every single person the cops arrest is based on lies and falsified evidence. They never get the criminal, they just pick the nearest black man.
 
2007-09-10 04:24:41 PM  
durbnpoisn: The real gist of this article, it seems, is that the reason this dude was free to start with is because their jail are SO overcrowded.

I wonder if they are EVER going to open their eyes to the real problem... If they were to eliminate ONE thing as being a crime, it would alleviate the overcrowding. Then violent offenders like this guy, wouldn't be out free. That one thing? Drug offenses.


Non-violent offenders are the first to be considered for house arrest, work-release programs, etc. (My GF works at a golf-club where most of the greenskeepers are work-release dopers or DUI convicts.)

If they have such an overcrowding problem that they are releasing violent offenders, don't you think they may have already released the passive hippie weekend dopers?

Your "jails of full of non-violent weed smokers" theory is not accurate.
 
2007-09-10 04:26:34 PM  
srtpointman
farm1.static.flickr.com
touche'
 
2007-09-10 04:28:29 PM  
FYI - many police department entrance exams disqualify people for scoring either too low or too high. It seems the routine nature of police work isn't well suited to someone with significantly above average intelligence (i.e., the Chief don't like people making him look stupid).
 
2007-09-10 04:28:45 PM  
Whoopty Whoo The Idiot Troll Boy: 1. Cops have job to do

Monitoring some jackass with an ankle bracelet isn't part of a cops job. Arresting said asshole is their job.

If you're going to throw around blame why not look to the judge that released this asshole or the county worker who fell asleep at the monitoring terminal?

It wasn't the police who farked up, it was the tracking and judicial system as a whole.

Why don't you go back and (provided you can read) RTFA. The suspect in question was shot after his idiot partner decided it'd be a good idea to point a gun at the police.
 
2007-09-10 04:29:53 PM  
Submitter fails.

Im not going to read all the previous posts, but I hope someone mentions that that type of anklet bracelet does NOT "monitor whearabouts at all times" - It only checks in when the guy comes home, so it records when he arrives home, and leaves home. Thats it. No location tracking.

(Which sort of destroys the entire ironic point the submitter was trying to make.)
 
2007-09-10 04:33:29 PM  
framitz: Koalaesq;
Yes at least 70% of all the cops I've ever met qualify as morons.


Look around you. This is America. When people are so stupid on average why would you expect the cops (or any other group) to be any better?

(Note: Americans are not IMHO any stupider in general than people in other nations. The world is a stupid, stupid place.)
 
2007-09-10 04:35:06 PM  
Jument: framitz: Koalaesq;
Yes at least 70% of all the cops I've ever met qualify as morons.

Look around you. This is America. When people are so stupid on average why would you expect the cops (or any other group) to be any better?

(Note: Americans are not IMHO any stupider in general than people in other nations. The world is a stupid, stupid place.)


This.

Reminds me of the 9/11 conspiracy episode Southpark:

Cartman: "Do you mean to say that 1/4 of americans are retarded?"
Kyle: "I am saying that 1/4 of americans are retarded"
Stan: "yeah atleast that many."
 
2007-09-10 04:36:52 PM  
ThrobblefootSpectre:
Non-violent offenders are the first to be considered for house arrest, work-release programs, etc. (My GF works at a golf-club where most of the greenskeepers are work-release dopers or DUI convicts.)

If they have such an overcrowding problem that they are releasing violent offenders, don't you think they may have already released the passive hippie weekend dopers?

Your "jails of full of non-violent weed smokers" theory is not accurate.


I'm going directly from a statement ITFA, where they say that their prisons are overcrowded with drug offenders. That's what set me off on that rant.

Besides... I think it's more accurate than you think. Consider how many violent offenders are there because of violence committed in the name of protecting drug turf. Make it legal, it removes all of that.
What I'm getting at there, is that much of the violence, especially gang related, is caused simply because of the underground drug trade.

Take that away, and a whole subset of crime goes along with it.
 
2007-09-10 04:37:11 PM  
FTFA
Said Hialeah Deputy Chief Orlando Aguilera on Powell's release under the monitoring system: ``In this particular case, it was a complete and utter failure.''

i67.photobucket.com
 
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