EIGHT pages?!

Maybe I'd read them all if it wasn't a libtard rag like MSNBC,
but it is... Give us the Cliff's Notes, submittard.

Uh, not a Newsweek article.

I think subby should be banned for smurfing Newsweek.

SpeshilEdjukashin: EIGHT pages?!

There, now it is one page (new window)

BooBoo23: Weaver95: I don't think that even the prospect of a Hillary presidency is going to motivate the Republicans.

Huh. Outside of tax cuts and shrines to the 2nd Amendment, I can't think of anything that motivates Republicans more than hatred of Hillary.

She'll win. It's the Clinton's turn to hold office for 8 years. Then Jeb, then a Clinton again.

BooBoo23: Huh. Outside of tax cuts and shrines to the 2nd Amendment, I can't think of anything that motivates Republicans more than hatred of Hillary.

People that don't vote don't vote. Hillary's biggest threat is disenchanted leftists that believe she abandoned a liberal ethos for a statist's desire for power and control.

I, for one, welcome our excess-profit sharing Overlords!

BooBoo23: vernonFL: I'm afraid that the only way the Republicans can win is if they run against Hillary.

Indeed. She's got an amazing power to really bring people together.... Against her.

So true, I have yet to hear from a Democrat that is enthusiastic about her. They are all going for Obama or one of the other Dems that are running. Some of them are downright opposed to having her president. For once we agree on something. :D

Jon Snow: Hillary's biggest threat is disenchanted leftists that believe she abandoned a liberal ethos for a statist's desire for power and control.

I don't think some Dems understand how much of this is out there. I, for one, fall in that category. I won't vote for her. I know several others who used to like her, but won't vote for her now. Seriously, why can't the Democratic party get behind some real change in Washington? (Yes, I know that real change would be ending collusion and having intelligent people govern, but that's another issue.)

Interestingly, I heard an interview this morning on NPR with a guy in upstate New York (a republican) who doesn't like her because she's been so vehemently opposed to the war. I think it kind of shows how a lot of people just make up what they want to believe.

Either way, just say no to Hillary in '08.

I think everyone is overlooking Hillary's qualifications:
1. She's smarter than Bush.
2. She has a famous last name.

Crosshair: BooBoo23: vernonFL: I'm afraid that the only way the Republicans can win is if they run against Hillary.

Indeed. She's got an amazing power to really bring people together.... Against her.

So true, I have yet to hear from a Democrat that is enthusiastic about her. They are all going for Obama or one of the other Dems that are running. Some of them are downright opposed to having her president. For once we agree on something. :D

Yet, she's leading in the polls...

Snarfangel: I think everyone is overlooking Hillary's qualifications:
1. She's smarter than Bush.

A retard sea-lion with self-delusions of sentience is smarter than Bush.

2. She has a famous last name.

True...

Oops, I forgot one:
3. She already has a full set of Presidential china and silverware.

BooBoo23: Jon Snow: People that don't vote don't vote. Hillary's biggest threat is disenchanted leftists that believe she abandoned a liberal ethos for a statist's desire for power and control.

That's the thing- she can inspire people to vote.. against her. Count me among that group of disenchanted leftists.

Crosshair: I have yet to hear from a Democrat that is enthusiastic about her.

Me neither. I guess it's an urban myth or something. Most Dems/Left-leaners that I talk to hate the biatch.

I'm confused. Who are they polling since she always seems to be ahead in the democratic primary polls I see?

BooBoo23: Huh. Outside of tax cuts and shrines to the 2nd Amendment, I can't think of anything that motivates Republicans more than hatred of Hillary.

Freedom. Liberty. A way out of our financial mess. No new loss of liberty, just restoration of much that has been lost. Disentangling the US from its no-advantages allegiances.

And the 2nd amendment. As well as all the others.

Ron Paul.

Weaver95: Polling is useless in this situation - who gets the nomination is up to the party delagates at the convention. And I think Hillary is arranging to win that nomination as we speak.

Have they ever not gone with the winners of the popular Primary elections?

BooBoo23: I'm talking about things that get the Republican base fired up- tax cuts, guns, and bashing Hillary have been the rallying cry for Republicans for almost two decades now.

Don't forget gay marriages. Nothing brings Republicans together like the opportunity to throw queers under the bus.

BooBoo23: If the Republican party actually gave any of these more than lip service as of late, we would not be where we are today.

I'm talking about things that get the Republican base fired up- tax cuts, guns, and bashing Hillary have been the rallying cry for Republicans for almost two decades now.

That's not "The Republicans".

That's the Neo-Conservatives. ie, BushCo, and you don't despise them any more than Republicans do.

Clinton and pals all voted for the Patriot Act and to send troops into Iraq.

Ron Paul voted against these atrocities from the start.

Vote Democrat (except Obama and Kucinich), and you're voting for more of the same, just as if you voted for Giuliani or Thompson.

Vote for Obama or Kucinich and you vote for lame ducks that mean well.

If you want things fixed (as in corrected) vote for Ron Paul.

Didn't Hillary once say she made decisions by consulting the ghost of Elanor Roosevelt?

Short answer: like her husband, but without the charisma.

There, I just saved you eight pages.

Weaver95: netweavr: Weaver95: Polling is useless in this situation - who gets the nomination is up to the party delagates at the convention. And I think Hillary is arranging to win that nomination as we speak.

Have they ever not gone with the winners of the popular Primary elections?

A couple of times, yes. And I think the Democrats are going to ignore the popular vote this time around. The party insiders know that whoever gets the nomination this time around is going to be elected President. That means a LOT of chips are being cashed in and a lot of back room deals are getting made. Hillary is very, very good at that sort of thing and she really really wants to be President.

That seems like a great way to split the Democratic vote. Since whoever wins the popular vote could run anyways.

Weaver95: And I think Hillary is arranging to win that nomination as we speak.

netweavr: That seems like a great way to split the Democratic vote.

I'm not convinced votes even matter anymore. The numbers are so large and so easily manipulated by those who already hold office, that I no longer trust our elections system at all.

My attitude is currently: I'm for Ron Paul but I know he won't win. I'm only for him because it's best for America. A total collapse in this country would make me very wealthy.

Without very drastic changes, soon, our economy will collapse. Even if Ron wins, the economy would need to hold together at these unsustainable levels until 2010, the earliest that he could bring about the necessary changes that might prevent a next great depression. But I doubt the economy will hold up that long no matter who is or is not elected.

I also wouldn't rule-out BushCo placing a permanent hold on elections -- something he can do legally, now that the Democratic Congress granted him that power without a second glance. The Bush, in case you hadn't noticed, is not entirely sane.

netweavr: Yet, she's leading in the polls...

I know, it's weird. She leads the polls yet I find nobody who likes her. Mabee it the Dems in my local area or something. I don't know.

Giblet: I also wouldn't rule-out BushCo placing a permanent hold on elections -- something he can do legally, now that the Democratic Congress granted him that power without a second glance. The Bush, in case you hadn't noticed, is not entirely sane.

The moment he does that he better get the second amendment repealed too. Or he may learn why it exists as states start to secede.

The calm and reasoned debate starts....now!

Poopspasm: The calm and reasoned debate starts....now!

What? Did this go green? Aw, hell.

I dislike her because she is a woman whom I don't find attractive or funny.

Weaver95,

Absolutely loved that show. Good reference.

People, we have two options with this up coming election:

1. ELECT RON PAUL AND PRAY HE DOES WHAT HE SAYS HE WILL

OR

2. HAVE A REPEAT OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION.

Otherwise there will just be more of the same. Crappy economy getting crappier, continued loss of freedoms, war in Iran, et cetera...