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2007-09-09 09:37:44 PM
+1 Subby for almost making me choke when reading the headline of article.
 
2007-09-09 10:12:24 PM
*whaps subby on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper*

No! No! Bad subby! No puns! You do that outside! Bad!
 
2007-09-09 11:41:17 PM
At least they haven't heard some of the things other groups get called.
 
2007-09-10 12:49:21 AM
Honestly, when was the last time someone killed someone else because they loved them. Assisted suicide is the only reason I can think of. Other than that, every crime is a hate crime.
 
2007-09-10 01:03:35 AM
TFA: they returned with a stick, a hoe and a concrete brick

Hey, who doesn't bring hoes to parties?
 
2007-09-10 04:27:17 AM
Epsilon: Farking thugs in the Chicago area.

Um, that's Northern California, but thanks for playing.
 
2007-09-10 05:11:29 AM
I was somehow not surprised to hear this happened in Antioch.
 
2007-09-10 05:24:24 AM
Why not punish all violent crimes, regardless of thoughts behind them, to the fullest and be done with it?
 
2007-09-10 05:24:54 AM
Yea, but now who is going to speak out for the mute community on their silent, but deadly problems?
 
2007-09-10 05:29:38 AM
Ow My Balls: Why not punish all violent crimes, regardless of thoughts behind them, to the fullest and be done with it?

People don't seem to get upset by lower sentences for crimes of passion. If all crimes were given sentences equally, I think people would be upset, because cases are different, with different circumstances.

I don't think every crime against minority groups should be considered a hate crime, but, for example, if there is a political assassination or a bombing, that person is labeled a terrorist. I think certain racially or sexually motivated crimes are in some ways like terrorism because they send a message or are intended to scare groups of people. Not all, but some.
 
2007-09-10 05:31:15 AM
Brilliant, Smitty.

You made me laugh when I shouldn't even yet be awake.

+1!
 
2007-09-10 05:36:08 AM
partygoers told them to leave and they did, but police said they returned with a stick, a hoe and a concrete brick holy hand grenade
 
2007-09-10 05:36:52 AM
Ow My Balls: Why not punish all violent crimes, regardless of thoughts behind them, to the fullest and be done with it?

Self-defense?
 
2007-09-10 05:37:30 AM
You know, what with other senses getting stronger and whatnot, you would think that someone would've seen this coming.
 
2007-09-10 05:37:37 AM
I have a bi-lateral moderate to severe (65DB) hearing loss so I am really getting a kick out of these replies.

\hearing aids aren't like glasses, they don't make it good, just a little better.
 
2007-09-10 05:42:07 AM
Not to say they had it coming, but some deaf folks are militant assholes. So maybe they did have it coming.
 
2007-09-10 05:47:04 AM
Detroit_Bob: Not to say they had it coming, but some deaf folks are militant assholes. So maybe they did have it coming.

Wow. Just...wow.
 
2007-09-10 05:51:30 AM
juiceman_eyebrows Yeah,i made that little ghetto punk do that. That was my fault.

//well if it looks like a duck and quakes like a duck....
///suck it,I dont have white guilt
 
2007-09-10 05:53:05 AM
Detroit_Bob: Not to say they had it coming, but some deaf folks are militant assholes. So maybe they did have it coming.

Meh. I took ASL for 2 years as a my required second language in college. I can whole heartedly agree with this statement. They have some strange sense of entitlement it seems. Something to the effect that they deserve to be catered to and are even superior to the "hearing" because they have their whole little hand signal thing going on.

/Remember that little shiat storm they had at Gallaudet cause they hired a non-deaf president?
//Don't even get me started on deaf "culture"
///fark 'em, they sound weird when they laugh
 
2007-09-10 05:53:15 AM
I am deaf and I sure would like to teach you some signing. First, here's how the deaf will greet YOU. Extend your middle finger in an upright position while folding the others. Good, now be sure to have that moronic grin on your face.

Yes, I'm truly deaf and don't abide fools.
 
2007-09-10 05:53:19 AM
And I bet the clowns that beat this deaf guy were white,am I racist now too?

//now ill read TFA and find out if my racist theory holds true.
 
2007-09-10 05:56:09 AM
Mimes?
 
2007-09-10 05:59:56 AM
Holy hand grenade MIA?
 
2007-09-10 06:01:03 AM
Uchiha_Cycliste: \hearing aids aren't like glasses, they don't make it good, just a little better.

I lost 85% of my hearing in my right ear and 95% (with no word recognition) in my left ear, caused by DRUGS given to me when I was in the hospital, because I enjoyed the only legal leisure drug (alcohol) a little too much and then went out for a spin on my motorcycle.

never would have happened if i were high, never would have happened if i had blown a few lines, because no other drug impairs motor coordination nearly as much as alcohol.

/fark this war on (some) drugs
//fark you, uncle sam

\hearing aids aren't like glasses, they don't make it good, just a little better.
//Just to say it again, because it's true
 
2007-09-10 06:05:08 AM
///fark 'em, they sound weird when they laugh

I dated a deaf girl for a couple months. You think the laugh is weird, try the cries of passion.

No quicker way to kill a boner.
 
2007-09-10 06:05:30 AM
From an ideological perspective, I support hate crime legislation. Hate crime laws are intended to punish the people that specifically victimize minorities in order to send a threatening message to other minorities in the community.

The idea behind hate crimes is: "My victim just happened to be a negro," is a far cry from, "I beat up that negro so that the rest of them coloreds know their place."

True hate crimes threaten and intimidate the minority community as a whole, and in my opinion such crimes should carry heavier penalties. However, I don't think that there is a practical way to weed out those types of crimes from all the rest.

Despite the good intent behind hate crime laws, prosecutors and law enforcement will take advantage of any avenue available to them. And we end up with a Southpark-esque situation where someone is being charged with a hate crime solely by virtue of the fact that they are different from their victim.
 
2007-09-10 06:07:14 AM
Crosshair

Honestly, when was the last time someone killed someone else because they loved them. Assisted suicide is the only reason I can think of. Other than that, every crime is a hate crime.

You can't think much can you? Luckily most people can.
 
2007-09-10 06:08:44 AM
People who don't support hate crime legislation generally don't understand what's meant by the term "motive," nor why motive is an element punishable beyond the basic crime itself. But they do make for some amusing posts every now and then, in a "pat the puppy on the head" sort of way.
 
2007-09-10 06:09:53 AM
Crosshair: Honestly, when was the last time someone killed someone else because they loved them. Assisted suicide is the only reason I can think of. Other than that, every crime is a hate crime.

Even statutory rape? :O
 
2007-09-10 06:18:39 AM
brisken: They have some strange sense of entitlement it seems. Something to the effect that they deserve to be catered to and are even superior to the "hearing" because they have their whole little hand signal thing going on.

It's the same with Furries, The Dutch, Moonkin and Flamboyant gays. The only strength of their collective is that they HAVE a collective, so they pretend it's cool, and hot stuff, to be part of it.
But in reality:
You're disabled, you're worse than me, get over it.
You are not being persecuted, you just suck that bad at social situations, and so people dislike you.
Your country has done absolutely bloody nothing relevant to this round of counter-strike. Get a grip.
Your dance is not sexy, you are not made of doom, you fail at using all 4 aspects of your class, you fail at life.
You are not a 'culture', you're a pack of insecure people trying to deny that you're emotionally hurt by people thinking you're worse than they are, so what do you do? Waste effort pretending to feel good, plant giant "I AM SECURE IN WHO I AM! RLY!" posters, recruit people to your 'culture' of crap, and prove you're worse than others.

Also, insert anti-black comment here.
 
2007-09-10 06:23:52 AM
HAHA +1 subby!
i even shared that one with the security guard and 20 seconds later, he's still laughing. :D
 
2007-09-10 06:27:47 AM
a stick, a hoe and a concrete brick walk into a bar....
 
2007-09-10 06:40:08 AM
Sunday after they taunted a group of deaf people at a party and attacked one of them.


Anyone else get the mental image of a bunch of assholes screaming obsenities, and the deaf people signing away and ignoring, or not even being aware that they're being yelled at? Make a good skit in a bad UK comedy.
 
2007-09-10 06:42:00 AM
I thought TFA was going to be about white males.

/oh come on...
 
2007-09-10 06:46:00 AM
All crimes are hate crimes. Assign punishment based on what was done, not the motivations behind it. Does the victim really care if he was attacked because he was deaf, or black, or Jewish, or gay, or if the attacker was just after his wallet? No. He's still just as beat up.
 
2007-09-10 06:46:47 AM
phillydrifter: I lost 85% of my hearing in my right ear and 95% (with no word recognition) in my left ear

So then I take it you're not getting a kick out of these replies?
 
2007-09-10 06:49:03 AM
phillydrifter: I enjoyed the only legal leisure drug (alcohol) a little too much and then went out for a spin on my motorcycle.

never would have happened if i were high, never would have happened if i had blown a few lines, because no other drug impairs motor coordination nearly as much as alcohol.

/fark this war on (some) drugs
//fark you, uncle sam



And fark personal responsibility while you're at it....
 
2007-09-10 06:51:45 AM
SideburnSlim: I thought TFA was going to be about white males.

Rims
 
2007-09-10 06:57:24 AM
Bippal: Yea, but now who is going to speak out for the mute community on their silent, but deadly problems?

Mimes?

phillydrifter: never would have happened if i were high, never would have happened if i had blown a few lines, because no other drug impairs motor coordination nearly as much as alcohol.

Never would have happened if you had a brain. No sympathy for anyone who drinks and drives.
 
2007-09-10 06:59:30 AM
I lol'd

+1
 
2007-09-10 07:00:21 AM
torpid_beaver: ///fark 'em, they sound weird when they laugh

I dated a deaf girl for a couple months. You think the laugh is weird, try the cries of passion.

No quicker way to kill a boner.


But they dont complain about you talking dirty to them.
 
2007-09-10 07:03:21 AM
I guess beating up the deaf is just the next 'gangsta' thing, like grillz, spinning rims or pit bulls. *puke*


bobsuncle

Just curious as a linguistics student: how do you feel about cochlear implants?
 
2007-09-10 07:06:10 AM
Enigma_Nova: It's the same with Furries..

You know, I'm a furry, and I've been to four cons, so I call some utter BS there. All the furries I know don't think their superior. Mostly they'd like jerks to leave them alone.

/ok, I think we're above the guys who picket the cons
//but really, who isn't above Phelps and any such hateful impersonator
 
2007-09-10 07:16:07 AM
hee hee

/wow i'm a bad person
 
2007-09-10 07:20:24 AM
j0ndas: All crimes are hate crimes.

If some guy steals my wallet, he probably doesn't hate me. He just wants my money. The guys who bankrupted Enron probably didn't hate their employees or investors. A jaywalker isn't hating, either.
 
2007-09-10 07:25:45 AM
You know who else hated deaf people?
 
ADX
2007-09-10 07:25:50 AM
TFA: they returned with a stick, a hoe...

We don't love them hoes...
 
2007-09-10 07:36:31 AM
resident_weevil: Just curious as a linguistics student: how do you feel about cochlear implants?

I recently lost my hearing to infection from a medical procedure. I do use hearing aids but they are limited. I wear them daily for my own safety while driving and working around equipment. I can tell fairly much what someone is saying when it is in context and I can see them speak. I'll never hear music again but held my hands against the speakers during Pavarotti's Obit. At least I have that. I'm for anything that will make life easier be it implants, hearing aids, signing, etc. I don't understand how hearing loss could make me better than anyone else or my use of signing is some sort of status symbol but I do have questions about what sets off the internet tough guys here. I guess I do have an advantage over the hearing - I don't have to listen to the jerks.
 
2007-09-10 07:45:42 AM
Hate crime = Thought crime = BS
 
2007-09-10 07:46:51 AM
Detroit_Bob: Not to say they had it coming, but some deaf folks are militant assholes. So maybe they did have it coming.

Went to school with a couple thousand deaf people, so I can say that yeah, some can be very annoying. Especially when you can't tell them that their music is too damn loud.
 
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