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(CNN)   This week's AP Poll is out with USC still at the top. Michigan doesn't even receive a single sympathy vote this time   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com ) divider line
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2007-09-09 08:49:46 PM  
Neither did ND, oddly. There's always one... until this week.
 
2007-09-09 08:51:19 PM  
www.vadimus.com
 
2007-09-09 08:53:02 PM  
as it should be

/go blue
 
2007-09-09 08:58:17 PM  
USF beats Auburn at Auburn and doesn't even break the top 25. What a joke. At this rate, they can go undefeated and won't compete for the national championship.
 
2007-09-09 09:03:16 PM  
HOOK 'EM HORNS
 
2007-09-09 09:03:48 PM  
bubbaprog: USF beats Auburn at Auburn and doesn't even break the top 25. What a joke. At this rate, they can go undefeated and won't compete for the national championship.

And we'll hear the crying that was done by the Boise St. crowd last year (except that USF has already played and beaten a team of supposed substance).
 
2007-09-09 09:04:47 PM  
www.ci.seattle.wa.us

I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am to loudly chant...

WE'RE NUMBER TWENTY-NINE! WE'RE NUMBER TWENTY-NINE!

/Bring on OSU!
 
2007-09-09 09:07:16 PM  
Georgia Tech up to 15th? Hell, I know we're good but isn't that a little high for beating an awful ND team and a middle-of-the-road I-AA team?

Hope it doesn't go to your heads, fellas.
 
2007-09-09 09:07:25 PM  
Oregon goes from unranked to #19 after beating an unranked team at home who lost to a D-1AA team at home?
 
2007-09-09 09:07:51 PM  
i146.photobucket.com

Life is good!
 
2007-09-09 09:08:21 PM  
bubbaprog: USF beats Auburn at Auburn and doesn't even break the top 25. What a joke. At this rate, they can go undefeated and won't compete for the national championship.

Winning one game doesn't automatically put you in the top 25. Its not like the week two rankings really mean anything anyway.

But if you go undefeated (which I highly doubt) theres a good shot you could contend for the National Championship.
 
2007-09-09 09:09:02 PM  
subby Michigan doesn't even recieve a single sympathy vote this time

And they don't deserve one. That game was shameful. Hart is the only one left out there who's actually making an effort, it seems.

/was at the game, stayed the whole way though out of principle
 
2007-09-09 09:10:31 PM  
Wow, I guess Univ. of Washington needs to have one their students shoot up the school to get any sort of ranking.

I heard for yesterday's game, that the VT football team decided that for every person who lost their life in the shooting tragedy, that would be how many uncontested points they would give up to LSU's offense.

Here's a crazy thought, how about having a rule that forbids defeated teams in the ranking. Historic programs are nice, but Notre Dame didn't win a National Championships when Rudy was released.
 
2007-09-09 09:19:43 PM  
I_Approve_Of_This_Message: I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am to loudly chant...

WE'RE NUMBER TWENTY-NINE! WE'RE NUMBER TWENTY-NINE!

/Bring on OSU!


I'm worried, seriously.

Sir Vanderhoot: Hart is the only one left out there who's actually making an effort, it seems.

Agreed.

Keep your head up though, you could be a Kansas State fan having to deal with the true embarrassment of...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (pops)
 
2007-09-09 09:29:29 PM  
Wisconsin pulls out a close win to UNLV and they drop from 5th to 7th? They should not drop unless they actually lost.
 
2007-09-09 09:34:00 PM  
bubbaprog: USF beats Auburn at Auburn and doesn't even break the top 25. What a joke. At this rate, they can go undefeated and won't compete for the national championship.


NCAA Football doesn't have a national championship
 
2007-09-09 09:37:47 PM  
undflickertail: Wisconsin pulls out a close win to UNLV and they drop from 5th to 7th? They should not drop unless they actually lost.

I disagree, the top ten rankings should be a lot more fluid. Especially so early in the season when voters and fans are still trying to figure out where teams stand.
 
2007-09-09 09:43:44 PM  
WoodyHayes: I disagree, the top ten rankings should be a lot more fluid. Especially so early in the season when voters and fans are still trying to figure out where teams stand.

Which leads me to ask: why exactly is USC number one? LSU already has a win against a top 10 and a road conference win.

/flame on
 
2007-09-09 09:43:48 PM  
AlgertMan: NCAA Football doesn't have a national championship

They do, in the Football Championship Subdivision.

/and when the Gators win the BCS Title Game
//running for cover
 
2007-09-09 09:47:53 PM  
Enomai: WoodyHayes: I disagree, the top ten rankings should be a lot more fluid. Especially so early in the season when voters and fans are still trying to figure out where teams stand.

Which leads me to ask: why exactly is USC number one? LSU already has a win against a top 10 and a road conference win.

/flame on


Because they were the preseason #1. And they will remain so until and unless they lose. The preseason poll only serves to pre-coronate the champ the media wants. They have decided that USC will be the national champion, and all USC has to do is not screw that up.
 
2007-09-09 09:51:26 PM  
Come on we are in a tough division and building up every year

also is it one vote per coach or like a ranked vote?
 
2007-09-09 10:18:50 PM  
undflickertail: Wisconsin pulls out a close win to UNLV and they drop from 5th to 7th? They should not drop unless they actually lost.

Why not? You're saying voters can't correct a mistake from the previous week? Let's say USC squeaks out a win every week and LSU continues to stomp every team they face (on a much tougher schedule, btw). By your logic, USC should still be on top even though voters may believer LSU is now the better team.
 
2007-09-09 10:18:59 PM  
AlgertMan: NCAA Football doesn't have a national championship

This.
 
2007-09-09 10:27:32 PM  
I'm so sick of SEC Whiners.

The PAC-10 routinely dominates bowl non-conference competition. They currently have 4 teams in the top 25 with another two waiting in the wings.

If USC runs the table, they'll deserve the number one overall ranking going into the National Championship game.

/Go Sundevils... Beat that Trojan ass.
/Still, you southerners need to get over yourselves.
 
2007-09-09 10:31:25 PM  
www.vadimus.com
 
2007-09-09 10:33:06 PM  
deeoh1: Why not? You're saying voters can't correct a mistake from the previous week? Let's say USC squeaks out a win every week and LSU continues to stomp every team they face (on a much tougher schedule, btw).

VT is almost as overrated as Michigan was; they should've lost to ECU at home with all the support they had. USC has a better schedule than LSU. Let's look at those mighty Tigers away games: Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tulane, Alabama, Kentucky...ooh, so tough. Meanwhile, South Carolina showed how overrated Georgia was, USF (and KSU, except KSU shot themselves in the face with the 18 penalties) showed how bad Auburn sucks, etc.

dettigersnw22: Oregon goes from unranked to #19 after beating an unranked team at home who lost to a D-1AA team at home?

and by beat, you mean ANNIHILATED.Enomai: Which leads me to ask: why exactly is USC number one? LSU already has a win against a top 10 and a road conference win.

typically people don't move down in the rankings after a bye week or a win. (*Offer not valid if you're Cal and Mack Brown says his team really, really, really belongs in a BCS game even though it screws over the Pac-10/Big 10 traditional matchup and Cal has been ranked above them for pretty much the entire BCS rankings)

Deadhouseplants: Wow, I guess Univ. of Washington needs to have one their students shoot up the school to get any sort of ranking.

No, if they beat OSU they'll get in there, for sure. If not, there needs to be an investigation.

Deadhouseplants: Here's a crazy thought, how about having a rule that forbids defeated teams in the ranking.

At the end of last year (after the bowl games)...there would be Boise State in the rankings. Now, I love the Broncos...but no way were they the best team in the nation.

bubbaprog: USF beats Auburn at Auburn and doesn't even break the top 25.

Maybe if Auburn didn't suck it would be a bit more impressive. But at least your QB has the same last name as one of my buddies from the Marine Corps.
 
2007-09-09 10:57:10 PM  
Deadhouseplants: Mark my words, if the Dawgs pull it off next Saturday, they'll be in the top 20.
 
2007-09-09 11:03:52 PM  
bubbaprog: USF beats Auburn at Auburn and doesn't even break the top 25. What a joke. At this rate, they can go undefeated and won't compete for the national championship.

Maybe some of the voters actually watched the game? USF wasn't exactly impressive. Auburn just sucked worse.

/that being said, go Big East!
 
2007-09-09 11:03:54 PM  
Cal moves up to number 8 but the going gets much tougher now. The next month or so of games doesn't look likely to produce many upsets in the top 10.


PAC 10 is a freaking minefield this year. U$C, Cal, Fucla, Oregon, are all strong.

And since, unlike the SEC, every team plays each other within the conference there's no way to sidestep the good teams.
 
2007-09-09 11:09:48 PM  
Hell, I know we're good but isn't that a little high for beating an awful ND team and a middle-of-the-road I-AA team?

With the possible exception of LSU, none of the 14 teams above us have done anything more impressive.
 
2007-09-09 11:15:33 PM  
WoodyHayes: Keep your head up though, you could be a Kansas State fan having to deal with the true embarrassment of...

HAHAHAH

Twenty years behind the rest of the country.
 
2007-09-09 11:32:34 PM  
IAmRight: At the end of last year (after the bowl games)...there would be Boise State in the rankings. Now, I love the Broncos...but no way were they the best team in the nation.

You don't know that. And that's why college football is so farked up. Until you crown a champ based on what happens on the field only, there is no such thing as a national championship. Boise St did what was asked for it, they should have gotten the chance to play for a championship.

If we go by whatever is on paper, then App St. should have saved the airfare and not shown up to play Michigan. I mean, they're obviously not better than Michigan, right?

This is why games are actually played out. The numbers might be nice predictors, but they're worth shiat when the clock runs out and the scoreboard says otherwise.
 
2007-09-09 11:35:08 PM  
DanUFfan: They do, in the Football Championship Subdivision.

And in NCAA Division II and Division III.

Those do exist, I swear.
 
2007-09-09 11:43:25 PM  
tom servo bit me: HAHAHAH

Twenty years behind the rest of the country.


Yup. Seriously, if I was a KSU fan I'd consider writing an open apology letter to the rest of humanity before doing the honorable thing and offing myself.


rga184: Boise St did what was asked for it, they should have gotten the chance to play for a championship.

Every school in the WAC had at least two BCS schools on their schedule save Utah State and Boise State. I know they had a good season but if you want to be taken seriously you're going to have to do a hell of a lot better than a nigh non-existent OoC when you play in the WAC.

That is why I think Auburn screwed themselves a few years ago. SEC fans like to whine like little schoolgirls about how they say Auburn got the shaft when they were undefeated yet didn't do to the BCS title game but they had the weakest SoS of the three involved teams.

If a team in general wants to be able to make a case, get a better schedule in my opinion.
 
2007-09-10 12:13:27 AM  
The_Pink_Pimp: And since, unlike the SEC, every team plays each other within the conference there's no way to sidestep the good teams

the SEC championship game ensures that the two teams with the strongest conf records play each other every year. So what else would you suggest given the number of teams involved?
 
2007-09-10 01:22:41 AM  
SEC football is the best in the country, don't delude yourself...
 
2007-09-10 01:35:39 AM  
Hey, where's FSU?

Oh right, USF is the second-best team in Florida these days.

Man, it's sure quiet from those Nole boys up north these past couple of years. I guess they've got their hands full worrying about Alabama--er, I mean UAB.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2007-09-10 01:44:22 AM  
No really, where's FSU?

I remember that team from back in the 1990s; they thought they were the equal of the University of Florida, those silly fools. What ever happened to them?

You don't see them on TV or the news anymore. I wonder where they went.
 
2007-09-10 02:07:45 AM  
I just wanted to make sure the thread was well represented by the, "SEC sucks! PAC-10 is awesome! I wish SEC would shut up!" guy. Nevermind the fact that no one is mentioning SEC, let alone in relation to PAC-10.
 
2007-09-10 03:46:43 AM  
kilgorn: SEC football is the best in the country, don't delude yourself...

Why do they have a losing record vs. the Pac-10 since 1990 and a losing record in bowl games vs. the Big Televen since the start of the BCS era? Get over yourself kiddo.
 
2007-09-10 04:51:47 AM  
The_Pink_Pimp: Cal moves up to number 8 but the going gets much tougher now. The next month or so of games doesn't look likely to produce many upsets in the top 10.


PAC 10 is a freaking minefield this year. USC, Cal, UCLA, Oregon, Washington are all strong.

And since, unlike the SEC, every team plays each other within the conference there's no way to sidestep the good teams.


FTFY
 
2007-09-10 05:03:35 AM  
IAmRight: typically people don't move down in the rankings after a bye week or a win. (*Offer not valid if you're Cal and Mack Brown says his team really, really, really belongs in a BCS game even though it screws over the Pac-10/Big 10 traditional matchup and Cal has been ranked above them for pretty much the entire BCS rankings)

Considering that it ended up being a Rose Bowl that was on espn classic the next day and that Cal couldn't beat the scrub team from Lubbock at their bowl, i'd say the voters got it right.
 
2007-09-10 07:34:10 AM  
images.sportsline.com
 
2007-09-10 09:18:11 AM  
1 vote for a 'Michigan' tag.

/Just as bad as Florida without the nice weather.
//From Mi.
 
2007-09-10 09:27:13 AM  
WoodyHayes: kilgorn: SEC football is the best in the country, don't delude yourself...

Why do they have a losing record vs. the Pac-10 since 1990 and a losing record in bowl games vs. the Big Televen since the start of the BCS era? Get over yourself kiddo.


The SEC is 63-45-2 all time against the Big 10. The SEC is 59-36-5 all time against the Pac-10. The SEC is 10-9 overall against the Pac-10 since '90. Why the selective samplings to try and make your point? I can do that too. Since January 2007, the SEC has outscored the Big 10 41-14 in BCS Championship games.
 
2007-09-10 10:02:21 AM  
I think the SEC is a very good football conference, and I think they have been better than the Big 10 the last year or two, and maybe even this year.

But don't act like 3 years of being better than the Big 10 means they have always or will always be better -- that's just stupid.

The pendulum will swing back and the SEC folks will be embarassed with all this shiat talking. Just be happy your conference is playing well and stop acting like Jesus just came down and annointed them God's conference.

Look at what happened to Michigan this year. The fall from grace can be sudden.
 
2007-09-10 11:35:37 AM  
Considering that it ended up being a Rose Bowl that was on espn classic the next day and that Cal couldn't beat the scrub team from Lubbock at their bowl, i'd say the voters got it right.

You know we only had our fourth and fifth WRs on the field that day yes? Sure, Cal's secondary was weak that season and TT was running a spread offense, but that doesn't mean the "voters got it right". It means we were injury-depleted, and coincidentally (ie - the voters didn't pick this) matched up against a team whose biggest strengths matched our worst weaknesses.

Mack Brown is still a huge dick. When the #1 team in the country is Pac-10, and goes on to the national championship, the #4 team in the country, second place in the Pac-10, should go to the Rose Bowl. Period.

/End threadjack
 
2007-09-10 11:51:55 AM  
AlgertMan: NCAA Football doesn't have a national championship

This.
 
2007-09-10 12:08:46 PM  
The_Pink_Pimp: PAC 10 is a freaking minefield this year. U$C, Cal, Fucla, Oregon, are all strong.

Not just those, but WSU, UW, and ASU will all be dangerous. In fact, any team outside of Stanford and AZ can realistically expect to finish in the top half of the conference. Should be a wild year.
 
2007-09-10 12:23:59 PM  
The NCAA has posted the statistics for Division I and, surprise, surprise, LSU significantly leads USC in every major statistical category. This is even true with LSU having played two games and USC having played only one. Funny thing, USC gave up more points against a mid level WAC team than LSU gave up in both of its games combined. Also, LSU scored more points in each of its games than USC scored in its "rent a win." Check it for yourself, http://www.ncaa.org/stats/football/footballMenu.html

In my book, LSU has earned the top ranking on the field and should keep it until USC actually does something to deserve it.
 
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