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2007-09-03 12:02:18 PM  
Ain't islam great?
 
2007-09-03 12:21:51 PM  
Afternoon_Delight: Ain't islam great?

*sigh*

Moron.

/goes back to bed
 
2007-09-03 12:25:34 PM  
Aw, are the stone-age thugs upset again? Tell ya what, I've got a deal for you. You fark off and die and I'll promise not cry.
 
2007-09-03 12:34:49 PM  
Mullah Omar? Didn't Bush capture that guy in 2001 and put him on trial?

Oh yeah, right... he didn't. He had a hard-on for Iraq instead.

i27.photobucket.com

"Whaddaya want from me? It was somebody else's job."
 
2007-09-03 12:35:06 PM  
Humean_Nature: Moron.

I knew there would be a stupid ass comment when I saw 1 comment and then in the thread there were none. I think I've managed to ignore all of the various incarnations.
 
2007-09-03 03:29:52 PM  
Humean_Nature: *sigh*

Yeah, it's not like Muslims are at the center of almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.
 
2007-09-03 03:31:15 PM  
The Islamic fundamentalist group claimed South Korea has not withdrawn all its citizens from Afghanistan as promised in the recent hostage release talks, the Yonhap report said Monday.

Guys, I don't think making deals with the Taliban and then reneging on them is such a good idea. These people tend to hold a grudge, and will likely pay you back well more than those hostages.
 
2007-09-03 03:34:17 PM  
kraut7: Humean_Nature: *sigh*

Yeah, it's not like Muslims Americans are at the center of almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.


FTFY

/it cuts both ways
 
2007-09-03 03:34:35 PM  
kraut7: Humean_Nature: *sigh*

Yeah, it's not like Muslims are at the center of almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.


Yeah, it's not like americans are involved in almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.

/works, too/
 
2007-09-03 03:39:08 PM  
They want them to stop "isits" by missionaries.


Doesn't anyone use spell checker anymore?
 
2007-09-03 03:39:58 PM  
*yawn*

This would be news if you could actually find something that Islamic Fundamentalists aren't pissed off about. To them, everything is an affront to Islam, including other Muslims.
 
2007-09-03 03:45:56 PM  
beakerscorner: *yawn*

This would be news if you could actually find something that Islamic Fundamentalists aren't pissed off about. To them, everything is an affront to Islam, including other Muslims.


Trust me when I say that it's not exclusive. If there was oil under the Vatican right now, we'd be hearing all about the evil Christian terrorists all over the world. There are just as many religious nutjobs on this side of the Atlantic as there are over there, we just have a better judicial system over here.
 
2007-09-03 03:55:02 PM  
rppp01a: Yeah, it's not like americans are involved in almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.

Really?
 
2007-09-03 03:55:06 PM  
If there was oil under the Vatican right now, we'd be hearing all about the evil Christian terrorists all over the world.

huh? there's oil all over the US bible belt, and you don't hear of christian terrorists outside of eric rudolph

There are just as many religious nutjobs on this side of the Atlantic as there are over there, we just have a better judicial system over here

aside from an abortion clinic and doctor or two, where are the US religious terrorists beheading people and setting off suicide bombs every day? maybe i read the wrong newspaper
 
2007-09-03 04:05:56 PM  
albo

I believe I already said we have a better judicial system. People are caught and imprisoned and things like this are prevented. Ideologically speaking, there is no difference between the fundamentalists on differing sides of the Atlantic. That there are fewer attacks here is a testimony our legal system, not their restraint. Forget it, I'm not getting involved in your sport. Fish elsewhere troll.
 
2007-09-03 04:09:17 PM  
Ideologically speaking, there is no difference between the fundamentalists on differing sides of the Atlantic

absolutely. the non-muslim fundamentalists in the US don't appears to be violently attacking and killing the infidels the find.

Fish elsewhere troll

you made a statement i disagreed with, so i engaged you in debate. that's not trolling. if you can't defend your position, then don't state it in a Fark thread
 
2007-09-03 04:10:54 PM  
kraut7: Humean_Nature: *sigh*

Yeah, it's not like Muslims are at the center of almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.


To be fair, that's just the ones we're paying attention to. All the conflicts in parts of the world powerful enough to tell us to bugger off or poor enough to pass under post-industrial civilization's radar are pretty well ignored.

There's also plenty of domestic and small-sacale conflict everywhere that has little to do with religion.
 
2007-09-03 04:12:36 PM  
Religion of peace.
 
2007-09-03 04:13:33 PM  
I think the Tallies left off the "Neener, neener!"
 
2007-09-03 04:14:18 PM  
Krymore: albo

I believe I already said we have a better judicial system. People are caught and imprisoned and things like this are prevented. Ideologically speaking, there is no difference between the fundamentalists on differing sides of the Atlantic. That there are fewer attacks here is a testimony our legal system, not their restraint. Forget it, I'm not getting involved in your sport. Fish elsewhere troll.


I think it's says more that it hasn't become acceptable and trendy for the Dominionist Christians to go all Jihadi.
Yet.
They will.
When those Bible Camp kids grow up and can't reconcile what they see in this country with what they were brainwashed with, they will get all Jihadi on us.

Today it's the Muslims.
Tomorrow it's the Dominionist Christians.
The next day? Who knows?
 
2007-09-03 04:16:57 PM  
albo you made a statement i disagreed with, so i engaged you in debate. that's not trolling. if you can't defend your position, then don't state it in a Fark thread

Exactly.
 
2007-09-03 04:17:55 PM  
Krymore: People are caught and imprisoned and things like this are prevented.

The only reason American Muslims aren't blowing stuff up and beheading people is because we're catching them before they do?
 
2007-09-03 04:18:02 PM  
albo: Ideologically speaking, there is no difference between the fundamentalists on differing sides of the Atlantic

absolutely. the non-muslim fundamentalists in the US don't appears to be violently attacking and killing the infidels the find.

Fish elsewhere troll

you made a statement i disagreed with, so i engaged you in debate. that's not trolling. if you can't defend your position, then don't state it in a Fark thread


I've already addressed the reason for the lower number of attacks here several times. Don't pretend you have any intention of logical discourse when you only come here because you get a kick out of spamming hate speech slandering 1.5 billion people, when you most likely don't know any of them personally. You're a well established troll and I'm familiar with your game. Personally, I don't see why you waste your time if you're not even going to be subtle or funny with it. Are you really just that desperate for attention that pure spam without any sort of subtlety or humor entertains you?
 
2007-09-03 04:20:57 PM  
rppp01a: Yeah, it's not like Muslims are at the center of almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.

Yeah, it's not like americans are involved in almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.

/works, too/


Well, we aren't involved in Chechnya, or the Sudan, and we pretty much are ignoring Somalia now. We are kinda taking a side in Indonesia, but since the hostages are free we have gone back to not caring. It is hard to say we are involved with the Palestinians since Israel hasn't done much that we asked them since the Scuds in Gulf War 1.

We are hipdeep in Iraq though, so maybe we would be meddling more elsewhere if we weren't pinned down in the sand.
 
2007-09-03 04:23:57 PM  
kraut7: Krymore: People are caught and imprisoned and things like this are prevented.

The only reason American fundamentalist Muslims and Christians aren't blowing stuff up and beheading people is because we're catching them before they do?


Yes. Happy bigot?
 
2007-09-03 04:26:14 PM  
Don't pretend you have any intention of logical discourse when you only come here because you get a kick out of spamming hate speech slandering 1.5 billion people,

oh, i see, it's a muslim thing. sure, i'm critical of religion, all of the, but particularly islam--it's a theology of grievance and tribalism, one that freely oppresses women, stifles personal liberty and is stuck in the middle ages. it's the genesis of many of the world's problems, and the "moderate" Muslims are not immune--they need to face up to their inability to challenge and reform their radicals.

it's not trolling to criticize or even to disdain. everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they are also entitled to have their own opinion challenged by others. your fundamentalist equivalence is flawed.
 
2007-09-03 04:28:23 PM  
Krymore: I believe I already said we have a better judicial system. People are caught and imprisoned and things like this are prevented. Ideologically speaking, there is no difference between the fundamentalists on differing sides of the Atlantic. That there are fewer attacks here is a testimony our legal system, not their restraint. Forget it, I'm not getting involved in your sport. Fish elsewhere troll.

Excellent straw man. You don't have to find problems with Christians directly. Just say they are the same as Muslims, without without proof of even being in the same ballpark. Of course, you can make an excuse and say our legal system is preventing the outbreak of widepread Christian terrorism.

But I could say that our legal system is preventing a generation of Atheists from becoming like Cho and the Columbine kids and blowing up all our schools wholesale. Wouldn't make either point correct, though.
 
2007-09-03 04:31:35 PM  
albo: your fundamentalist equivalence is flawed. Is it now? Tell me something that fundamentalist Muslims believe that you take issue with, and I'll describe, from personal experience, a fundamentalist Christian that believes the same. To be honest, I doubt the sincerity of your concern. You ignore the problem and attack the people.
 
2007-09-03 04:32:31 PM  
Krymore: The only reason American fundamentalist Muslims and Christians aren't blowing stuff up and beheading people is because we're catching them before they do?

Yes. Happy bigot?


That's a pretty farking stupid thing to say.
 
2007-09-03 04:33:34 PM  
You mean to say that Christians in Korea lied? *gasp*, I thought Christianity was the religion of truth
 
2007-09-03 04:35:33 PM  
philwz:
Excellent straw man. You don't have to find problems with Christians directly. Just say they are the same as Muslims, without without proof of even being in the same ballpark. Of course, you can make an excuse and say our legal system is preventing the outbreak of widepread Christian terrorism.

But I could say that our legal system is preventing a generation of Atheists from becoming like Cho and the Columbine kids and blowing up all our schools wholesale. Wouldn't make either point correct, though.


You could, but it's no different than what you're doing now. You have no desire to engage in discussion, your aim is simply to overwhelm with spam. I never attacked Christianity, I attacked fundamentalism. You don't care about fundamentalism. The most logical reason with your blanket hatred of all Muslims and Atheists is that you are yourself, a fundamentalist.
 
2007-09-03 04:37:36 PM  
Krymore: Tell me something that fundamentalist Muslims believe that you take issue with, and I'll describe, from personal experience, a fundamentalist Christian that believes the same

1. to leave the religion is a sentence of death
2. allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes
3. Jesus was not crucified.
4. Allah commanded the angels to worship Adam
 
2007-09-03 04:44:31 PM  
albo: aside from an abortion clinic and doctor or two, where are the US religious terrorists beheading people and setting off suicide bombs every day? maybe i read the wrong newspaper

It's because we're freak'n rich.

If we were all poor, digging for rocks to boil for supper like a lot of the people over there (remember, the oil money's going to the leaders, not the people, and those nations where oil wealth is shared are generally peaceful) then we'd probably be bombing people too.

We don't do that except for genuine psychopaths because we're comfortable and relativity well-to-do.
 
2007-09-03 04:46:04 PM  
albo: 1. to leave the religion is a sentence of death

I assume you mean literally in the sense that a Muslim who leaves the religion should be killed.

Christians don't do it like that, but I'm sure a good deal of them would believe that someone leaving the religion would be going to hell. And from the point of view of a Christian, going to hell is far worse than death.

But I don't think they would go ahead and kill someone for that. Sometimes a crazy one drowns her kids or shoots an abortion doctor or invades a sovereign country, though.
 
2007-09-03 04:47:42 PM  
I have a technical question, for anyone who knows anything about South Korean law. Of course the S. Korean government can bring home any people it has there in an official capacity - but does it have the authority to order any and all its citizens there to come home?
 
2007-09-03 04:51:13 PM  
albo: Krymore: Tell me something that fundamentalist Muslims believe that you take issue with, and I'll describe, from personal experience, a fundamentalist Christian that believes the same

1. to leave the religion is a sentence of death
2. allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes
3. Jesus was not crucified.
4. Allah commanded the angels to worship Adam


1. That's in the Bible.
2. No more ridiculous than the idea that dark skinned people are subhuman as a result of God's curse on Noah's son Ham.
3. Why does this matter at all?
4. I was taught something similar as a kid. The "fallen angels" were supposedly the angels upset that God made mankind "above" them.

Other than the obvious first, none of those really cause harm to other people. Do you really take issue with Islam because it's more violent than the rest, or are you just trying to bring up technicalities of where it differs with Christianity to denounce them as heretics that need to be destroyed in the name of the "true" religion?
 
2007-09-03 04:51:59 PM  
nethole: You mean to say that Christians in Korea lied? *gasp*, I thought Christianity was the religion of truth

No one is obliged to keep a promise that is made under duress. For example, if I stuck a gun to your head and forced you to sign a check from your bank account, you are under no legal or moral obligation to pay. As soon as my gun is no longer at your temple, you can call the bank and cancel the check - not to mention call the cops. This principle applies here. The Taliban kidnapped innocent people and demanded ransom for their release. Any promises made to get that release can be repudiated.
 
2007-09-03 04:52:40 PM  
Step 1: Exploit a religion for political gains.
Step 2: That religion gets blamed for all the world's problems.
Step 3: Actual causes ignored/profit.
 
2007-09-03 05:01:03 PM  
philwz:
Excellent straw man. You don't have to find problems with Christians directly. Just say they are the same as Muslims, without without proof of even being in the same ballpark


They are in that ballpark where people the wishes of their omnipotent imaginary friends, convienently transcribed by their Priests/Mullas/Poobahs/Whatevers. Anybody carrying around a delusion of that size is capable of dreaming up justification to do just about anything.

/Me, I just do as I please and don't bother with justifying it.
 
2007-09-03 05:01:08 PM  
Krymore: Trust me when I say that it's not exclusive. If there was oil under the Vatican right now, we'd be hearing all about the evil Christian terrorists all over the world. T

Why should I trust you when you spout crap like this? The amount of oil we've scored out of Iraq wouldn't fill your bath tub. If you have one.
 
2007-09-03 05:02:23 PM  
Do you really take issue with Islam because it's more violent than the rest, or are you just trying to bring up technicalities of where it differs with Christianity to denounce them as heretics that need to be destroyed in the name of the "true" religion?

if you surely know i'm a notorious Fark troll, you'd also know i'm a notorious Fark athiest.

i take issue with islam precisely for the reasons i noted upthread--it's a medievial religion that refuses to advance with the rest of the world and that provides an excuse for the malcontent to nurse and express grievances in the name of allah.
 
2007-09-03 05:04:50 PM  
jso2897: I have a technical question, for anyone who knows anything about South Korean law. Of course the S. Korean government can bring home any people it has there in an official capacity - but does it have the authority to order any and all its citizens there to come home?

Your very reasonable and on-point question about the long-forgotten topic occurs far too late in this flame thread to do any good :)

albo, I agree. Keep up the good fight, it's been entertaining reading.
 
2007-09-03 05:06:12 PM  
Yeah, it's not like Muslims are at the center of almost every conflict in the world. Oh, wait.

Now wait a minute. The Spanish ETAs aren't Muslim, and I'm pretty sure the squabble down at my local school board doesn't involve Islam, so, you're only 99.99% right.
 
2007-09-03 05:09:13 PM  
Hibno: Step 1: Exploit a religion for political gains.
Step 2: That religion gets blamed for all the world's problems.
Step 3: Actual causes ignored/profit.


Very true.

However, one must say the Koran is being metaphorical when it commands "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers." (2:191). Or that it only applies to self-defense.

Maybe yes, maybe no, but any religious text is ripe for nuts to take it as an excuse to kill people. It's Islam's turn. Judaism and Christianity had their turn. It's still not excusable.
 
2007-09-03 05:09:47 PM  
albo:
if you surely know i'm a notorious Fark troll, you'd also know i'm a notorious Fark athiest.

i take issue with islam precisely for the reasons i noted upthread--it's a medievial religion that refuses to advance with the rest of the world and that provides an excuse for the malcontent to nurse and express grievances in the name of allah.


Which is essentially no different from any other medieval Abraham spawned religion. If you were an Atheist, I'd assume you'd be in favor of educating all the religious, rather than just discriminating against, and calling for the death of, Muslims as people. Also, if you're an Atheist, why would you take issue with the allegation that Muslims don't believe Jesus was crucified?
 
2007-09-03 05:13:01 PM  
Krymore: If you were an Atheist, I'd assume you'd be in favor of educating all the religious, rather than just discriminating against, and calling for the death of, Muslims as people.

1. you can't "educate" the religious out of their religion, especially the radicals. and why would i? live and let live is my motto, as long as your fervent desire to go to your god and 72 white raisons doesn't interfere with my ability to live my life.

2. i didn't call for the death of muslims, or anybody. you must arguing with albo in a parallel universe. i hate that smug bastard
 
2007-09-03 05:21:06 PM  
albo: you can't "educate" the religious out of their religion

Sure you can. If an an evangelist can convince a rational man that he'll burn for eternity if he doesn't make everybody he knows worship his new God, a rational man can convince a religious man that reality is, in fact, real. Building knowledge is always more difficult than tearing it down, but it can be done.
 
2007-09-03 05:29:27 PM  
Krymore: Yes.

I must be watching the wrong news programs.
 
2007-09-03 05:30:33 PM  
Fark the Taliban, Radical Islam needs to be wiped off the face of the earth, the sooner the better, for the survival of the human species.
 
2007-09-03 05:33:00 PM  
Notice I didn't say "Radical Muslims" need to be wiped out, but the view needs to be shown to be the rubbish that it is.

But, yeah, to wipe out the views, obviously, a lot of them are gonna have to die.
 
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