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(The Sun)   Hospital in worlds's busiest Nanny State refuses to help critically-injured patient 10 yards from its emergency room "for insurance reasons" and calls for ambulance to move him the rest of the way (pic)   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 153
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2007-09-03 12:52:19 AM
Damn. If you're 18 years old with a DUI w/accident, good luck getting insurance after that.
 
2007-09-03 12:55:37 AM
I think it is gonna be kinda hard for the US to beat that one just because of the bureaucratic idiodicy involved.
 
2007-09-03 01:06:39 AM
And liberals want to inflict this upon every man, woman and child in America...

(shakes head)
 
2007-09-03 01:23:34 AM
Epsilon: Damn. If you're 18 years old with a DUI w/accident, good luck getting insurance after that.

Wrong thread. Sorry.
 
2007-09-03 02:18:05 AM
Afternoon_Delight: And liberals want to inflict this upon every man, woman and child in America...

Because you could never give an example of someone not getting help in an emergency room under the current healthcare system. Not a single example.
 
2007-09-03 02:25:28 AM
Yay for insurance companies!
 
2007-09-03 02:25:55 AM
that's a lotta worlds, subberino
 
2007-09-03 02:28:12 AM
So doctors are required to stop and render aid at the scene of an accident, but not at the front door of a hospital?
 
2007-09-03 02:28:16 AM
i work at a hospital in buffalo, ny. this EXACT same scenario happened last week with an elderly woman who had been in for outpatient treatment. collapsed on the way out, and noone from the hospital was allowed to help her until the ambulance came and brought her in.
 
2007-09-03 02:29:06 AM
I'm guessing California can out-nanny them. Just a hunch.
 
2007-09-03 02:30:01 AM
Afternoon_Delight: And liberals want to inflict this upon every man, woman and child in America...

(shakes head)


i156.photobucket.com


Go back to hiding under your bridge in the politics tab.
 
2007-09-03 02:30:05 AM
Big farking deal. Here in America, thousands of people are kicked out of emergency rooms every day because they don't have insurance or not enough.
 
2007-09-03 02:30:42 AM
I absolutely refuse to believe that anything like that could possibly happen with private healthcare in America lucidthoughts

Come on.
 
2007-09-03 02:31:54 AM
Sorry, I was looking at Rhiann from Manchester courtesy of the page3 link on the left of the story....
 
2007-09-03 02:32:53 AM
I met you before the fall of Rome
And I begged you to let me take you home
You were wrong, I was right
You said goodbye, I said goodnight

It's all been done
It's all been done
It's all been done before..
 
2007-09-03 02:34:12 AM
Coelacanth writes: Big farking deal. Here in America, thousands of people are kicked out of emergency rooms every day because they don't have insurance or not enough.

I didnt' know that. Good though!
 
2007-09-03 02:37:51 AM
RocketVat: I absolutely refuse to believe that anything like that could possibly happen with private healthcare in America lucidthoughts

Come on.


i can assure you it did. the woman was with her daughter who was obviously distraught about the entire situation and how ridiculous it was. and it also took the ambulance 20 minutes to get there just so she could be 'transported' from the parking lot to the ER.

if you really think i am just trolling/taking the piss, i dare you to call up one of your local hospitals and ask what the procedure would be if this were to happen there. my email is in my profile if you want to compare what your hospital will do versus where i work.
 
2007-09-03 02:39:40 AM
oops, no its not in my profile. but its t*h*e*n*i*e*l*s at gmail (with the stars removed of course)
 
2007-09-03 02:40:30 AM
bmihura: I'm guessing California can out-nanny them. Just a hunch.

Huh? That's a total non-sequitur. California is not exactly a socialist utopia.
 
2007-09-03 02:40:35 AM
I thought Michael Moore said healthcare is free and refused to no one in England. What the hell? Michael lied? say it ain't so.

Die you scumbag Moore.
 
2007-09-03 02:42:37 AM
The ambulance is free, though, right? Here they're at least $500 a ride, even if the siren's off on the way to the hospital.
 
2007-09-03 02:42:42 AM
I had this happen about 2 yrs ago here in Missouri. Guy on the third floor of the building I was in had a heart attack at his desk. No one around him knew CPR and someone ran to the next building over that was an urgent care facility, the doctors stated due to insurance reasons they couldnt do anything until he was brought to them.
 
2007-09-03 02:43:14 AM
Quick1: Afternoon_Delight: And liberals want to inflict this upon every man, woman and child in America...

Because you could never give an example of someone not getting help in an emergency room under the current healthcare system. Not a single example.


Apparently you missed the one in the article. Or would you like to subject yourself for research?
 
2007-09-03 02:43:33 AM
I rely on Rupert Murdoch tabloids and Rupert Murdoch's Fox News for all my political news.
 
2007-09-03 02:45:42 AM
bmihura: I'm guessing California can out-nanny them. Just a hunch.

At least the weather is nice-er. With surfing and good skiing. Movies, ponies, and volcanos. Britain's got nuttin.
 
2007-09-03 02:47:48 AM
fanbladesaresharp: Apparently you missed the one in the article. Or would you like to subject yourself for research?

Uh, the example in the article was in England, genius. The troll above was trolling how liberals wanted to inflict this example from England on the rest of us. I sarcastically mentioned that there were no similar examples in America (sarcastic because of course there are numerous examples). Follow along?
 
2007-09-03 02:50:01 AM
This happens in the USA as well. In fact I was hit by a car DIRECTLY in front of the emergency room driveway. They drove an ambulance to get me.
 
2007-09-03 02:56:44 AM
Crosshair: I think it is gonna be kinda hard for the US to beat that one just because of the bureaucratic idiodicy involved.

I'd say you're wrong.

A lady here in the US bled to death in the ER lobby^. Even though 911 was called, they refused to even come. The hospital staff watched her die and did nothing.

RocketVat: I absolutely refuse to believe that anything like that could possibly happen with private healthcare in America

See above.
 
2007-09-03 02:57:31 AM
Quick1: fanbladesaresharp: Apparently you missed the one in the article. Or would you like to subject yourself for research?

Uh, the example in the article was in England, genius. The troll above was trolling how liberals wanted to inflict this example from England on the rest of us. I sarcastically mentioned that there were no similar examples in America (sarcastic because of course there are numerous examples). Follow along?


I got it. Thanks for the genius demonination BTW. Oh and Coelacanth"Big farking deal. Here in America, thousands of people are kicked out of emergency rooms every day because they don't have insurance or not enough.

Kick out your fav illegal wiping out insurance money for the rest of us eh? Canada? UR next.
 
2007-09-03 02:59:05 AM
Quick1: Uh, the example in the article was in England, genius. The troll above was trolling how liberals wanted to inflict this example from England on the rest of us. I sarcastically mentioned that there were no similar examples in America (sarcastic because of course there are numerous examples). Follow along?
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2007-09-03 02:59:39 AM
HansensDisease: A lady here in the US bled to death in the ER lobby^. Even though 911 was called, they refused to even come. The hospital staff watched her die and did nothing.

FAIL. That was at King Drew which, for a whole variety of reasons, is THE shining example in America of socialized medicine in action.
 
2007-09-03 02:59:48 AM
Afternoon_Delight: And liberals want...

You to STFU and DIAF? Yes, they do.
 
2007-09-03 03:01:12 AM
fanbladesaresharp: Kick out your fav illegal wiping out insurance money for the rest of us eh?

Because only illegals don't have insurance, right? Those statistics about 50 million Americans without insurance are just made up.
 
2007-09-03 03:01:23 AM
Ha! Amateurs. Here in the U.S. of A., we refuse help dying patients IN the hospital, AND refuse to send an ambulance!

Woman dies in ER lobby as 911 refuses to help
Tapes show operators ignored pleas to send ambulance to L.A.
hospital

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19207050/

10 yards? We don't need no stinkin' 10 yards!

I gotta admit, though, I'm worried that the Japanese are pulling ahead of us. A few days ago, a woman brought by ambulance was turned away from 9 hospitals! And last year a woman died in the 20th hospital after 19 rejected her! http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20070830TDY02008.htm

C'mon, are we Americans, or American'ts? We can top that! U! S! A! U! S! A!
 
2007-09-03 03:03:44 AM
tarvuz: This happens in the USA as well. In fact I was hit by a car DIRECTLY in front of the emergency room driveway. They drove an ambulance to get me.

My grandmother was killed when she was run over by an ambulance. True story, no joke.

Irony is a biatch.
 
2007-09-03 03:04:23 AM
Afternoon_Delight: And liberals want to inflict this upon every man, woman and child in America...

(shakes head)


Liberals give you the right to be slutty. If you want conservative, put on your god damn burka.

Ohhh. You thought it was liberal to hide women.
 
2007-09-03 03:07:34 AM
Quick1: fanbladesaresharp: Kick out your fav illegal wiping out insurance money for the rest of us eh?
Because only illegals don't have insurance, right? Those statistics about 50 million Americans without insurance are just made up.

Yep.

Actually, about 20 million of that number *includes* the illegals. And another huge percentage of it is people *who chose not to have medical insurace* - young college-age types who think they are immortal and have better things, like blow and hookers, to spend it on.
 
2007-09-03 03:08:16 AM
Quick1: fanbladesaresharp: Kick out your fav illegal wiping out insurance money for the rest of us eh?

Because only illegals don't have insurance, right? Those statistics about 50 million Americans without insurance are just made up.


Well this is a troll thread so let's go with it and send it straight to hell.

Again with the 1st>2nd>3rd posters. Quote the right posters. Saves the headaches.
 
2007-09-03 03:10:16 AM
Afternoon_Delight: And liberals want to inflict this upon every man, woman and child in America...

(shakes head)


nice troll attempt.

this exact same thing happened to me when a neighbor collapsed from a severe asthma attack and I drove right up to the emergency entrance of the nearest hospital. I had to pick up and carry the unconcious mofo into the emergency room before they'd even talk to me. NOBODY helped bring him in - and then they biatched at me about my car parked in front - while the doctors were asking me wtf was going on with the dude.

This was at Alta Bates hospital in Berkeley, CA. so, I'm guessing you red-state farkers are shiat out of luck.
 
2007-09-03 03:14:03 AM
I am so glad that I don't walk around making up reasons to hate, demonize, misrepresent, blame, or fear my fellow Americans.

Yeah... I'm looking at you, Afternoon_Delight.

/no... I don't hate, demonize, misrepresent, blame, or fear you... but I do feel a bit of pity for you.
//a bit.
 
2007-09-03 03:16:57 AM
Afternoon_Delight: And liberals want to inflict this upon every man, woman and child in America...

You're not real are you? Just going on your profile, something seems, I don't know, slightly contrived...
 
2007-09-03 03:20:05 AM
Coelacanth: Big farking deal. Here in America, thousands of people are kicked out of emergency rooms every day because they don't have insurance or not enough.

Now, in America's defence, I thought denying emergency treatment was illegal? I seem to remember that was the case in every ER I went to in Oklahoma City. Can't be a state law surely, anyone care to enlighten me? I remember thinking at the time that it was one of the more reasonable things about American healthcare.
 
2007-09-03 03:24:36 AM
cambie: I thought Michael Moore said healthcare is free and refused to no one in England. What the hell? Michael lied? say it ain't so.

Die you scumbag Moore.


Heh. Not defending Moore in particular, but the ambulance did come, and he did get morphine, right? And how much was he charged?
 
2007-09-03 03:26:50 AM
tarvuz: This happens in the USA as well. In fact I was hit by a car DIRECTLY in front of the emergency room driveway. They drove an ambulance to get me.

I'm gonna' guess they charged you a couple hundred bucks for the ambulance, too...?
 
2007-09-03 03:30:49 AM
tallguywithglasseson: Heh. Not defending Moore in particular, but the ambulance did come, and he did get morphine, right? And how much was he charged?

He's kinda right. Our healthcare is "free" (our immense taxes aren't mind), and no-one is refused treatment per se. However we do get pissed about. A LOT. Not so much with emergencies, though obviously it does happen, but with non-emergency cases, my word.

/Was referred to the local shrink over four months ago.
//Still haven't heard back.
///Luckily my GP's awesome and we got my situation sorted out.
////Still prefer living in the UK to America.
//Slashslashslashslash...
 
2007-09-03 03:33:47 AM
Looks like their problem is from insurance companies.

Just like America...
 
2007-09-03 03:35:37 AM
Now, in America's defence, I thought denying emergency treatment was illegal?

It is.

It's legal to deny the cheaper preventative care.
 
2007-09-03 03:43:23 AM
superdude72 2007-09-03 02:40:30 AM
"bmihura: I'm guessing California can out-nanny them. Just a hunch.

Huh? That's a total non-sequitur. California is not exactly a socialist utopia."

Not non-sequitur at all. "Socialist utopia" is an oxymoron

California is just behind Great Britain is nanny-state legislation.
 
2007-09-03 03:43:42 AM
impaler: It is.

It's legal to deny the cheaper preventative care.


That's what I thought. Funny old place, but I respectfully submit that nobody's got it right, everyone's system has major bugs, except maybe in parts of Scandinavia, where they just tax you out of most of your income.
 
2007-09-03 03:44:01 AM
Know who you can blame for this? Insurance scammers. If the hospitals didn't do this, there'd be five crackheads per night collapsing fifty feet from the emergency room door, then suing because they were traumatically injured by the non-EMT personell (nurses, other patients, janitors, whoever) who carried them through the doors.

And the way things are going, they'd win. And after a few multimillon dollar lawsuits, the hospital would close. And then you could voice your collective indignity at the inhumanity of it all to the clerk at the walgreeens who's selling you bandages and asprin for your bleeding scalp wound.

/Remember, sugary fluids will keep your energy up after massive blood loss.
//I think. Make sure you ask the clerk about that.
 
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