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2007-08-29 11:10:36 PM
Timmy, you're chewing gum. You're going in the hole.
 
2007-08-29 11:21:54 PM
Do they get meals through a hole?

You know, eventually America could end up a police state. Not because the government becomes fascist, but because the only service we'll be able to provide to the rest of the world is the housing of criminals.

We'll be Australia II.
 
2007-08-29 11:32:13 PM
RyoShin: We'll be Australia II.

Electric Kangaroo?
 
2007-08-30 03:24:43 AM
kingMountain: RyoShin: We'll be Australia II.

Electric Kangaroo?


WIN
 
2007-08-30 06:18:22 AM
RyoShin: Do they get meals through a hole?

You know, eventually America could end up a police state. Not because the government becomes fascist, but because the only service we'll be able to provide to the rest of the world is the housing of criminals.

We'll be Australia II.


uh huh huh, uh huh huh, uh huh

/fail
 
2007-08-30 06:18:48 AM
www.sparklingrose.net
 
2007-08-30 06:21:20 AM
www.gamecyb.org
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT WON'T STOP ME FROM KNOWING ALL YOUR SECRETS
 
2007-08-30 06:23:07 AM
Well, the link is dead already. Anyone have another active link to the article?
 
2007-08-30 06:25:41 AM
Teacher: "Tommy, go get in the 'Tomorrow Box'.
Tommy: "Tomorrow Box??"
Teacher: "I can't deal with you today. GO."
 
2007-08-30 06:37:18 AM
Jeebus. Link farked already.
 
2007-08-30 06:38:22 AM
Standing on tiptoes with a nose in a circle drawn on the chalkboard two inches above your nose was effective.
 
2007-08-30 06:40:55 AM
CARL_WEATHERS: SOLITARY CONFINEMENT WON'T STOP ME FROM KNOWING ALL YOUR SECRETS


STOP IT WITH THE ZOOLANDER KID
 
2007-08-30 07:28:10 AM
I wish schools up here would do something as punishment. My son peed on another kid last school year (no joke--first grade). They did nothing, so we had to try to punish him hours after it happened. By that point, the punishment means jack and crap to a first grader.

The only reason we got for the incident was "he was picking on my friend." I already told him this year to keep his bodily functions to himself. :P

Oh, and the article is farked. Big shock.
 
2007-08-30 07:37:22 AM
* Dress code? Check.
* Metal detectors? Check.
* Armed security? Check.
* Zero tolerance policies? Check.
* Enforcement of arbitrary rules? Check.
* Solitary confinement? CHECK!

We are quickly turning our schools into prisons. I'll challenge anyone to find a difference between the two in about five years, if things keep going the way they're going.
 
zez
2007-08-30 07:41:39 AM
CARL_WEATHERS:

I don't mind the smug boy so much, it's the girl that creeps me out. She looks like she's photoshopped together from 3-4 different photographs.
 
2007-08-30 07:49:14 AM
stiletto_the_wise: * Dress code? Check.
* Metal detectors? Check.
* Armed security? Check.
* Zero tolerance policies? Check.
* Enforcement of arbitrary rules? Check.
* Solitary confinement? CHECK!

We are quickly turning our schools into prisons. I'll challenge anyone to find a difference between the two in about five years, if things keep going the way they're going.


I was thinking the same thing. I don't have a link, but it made me think of an article a while back about a east coast school making physical contact punishable. Refering to holding hands, high-fives, hugs... all the stuff that meant something back then.

God forbid two kids get caught playing doctor in the closet.
 
2007-08-30 07:52:06 AM
My kindergarten teacher, Mrs Myers, would threaten to skin us alive and then throw us in a closet. I'll never forget that woman as long I live.
 
2007-08-30 08:05:13 AM
My kindergarten teacher spanked a kid, Jimmy, over her knee, and this was at a Montessori school in uber-liberal California in the 1970s. It was the only time any kid was ever spanked in that class, or ever acted up the way he had been.

We later to Minnesota, where when I was in fifth or sixth grade, Jeff would continually act up for laughs. As hilarious as we thought he was, the teacher was not favorably impressed - she moved his desk to the back of the classroom and put a three-way divider around him, isolating him from the class. This lasted for a few days, until he could conduct himself properly in class. He then saved his antics for the lunchroom and playground.

I don't know about Jimmy, but Jeff turned out alright. He just needed to be taught who was in charge. If either teacher tried this today, they'd end up on FARK when little Tyler or Brianna's parents pressed charges.
 
2007-08-30 08:14:22 AM
What we have here... is FAILURE to communicate.
 
2007-08-30 08:18:34 AM
Wow, this is a strange case of the server being farked - we apparently killed their nameservers, not their web server. Both ns1.fmbc-meridianradio.com and ns2.fmbc-meridianradio.com are returning SERVFAIL to a query for www.winknews.com. 'Course, they're on adjacent subnets, so maybe it's just that someone didn't get the memo that TWO NAMESERVERS MINIMUM really means what it says. Me personally, I have authoritative nameservers for my personal stuff in London, Washington DC, and Palo Alto, CA. Celebrate (spatial) Diversity.
 
2007-08-30 08:19:25 AM
Not raising your hand to talk, that's a night in the box.
Incomplete homework assignments, that's a night in the box.
Passing notes in class, that's a night in the box.
 
2007-08-30 08:19:49 AM
I was so bad in grade school they put me in the janitor's closet. With a desk. I broke the fusebox and fled the school. ahhh... memories. I was in 2nd grade.
 
2007-08-30 08:23:29 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

"I am really not impressed and what's in it for me?

/You know who ppl in the cooler? Hitler!
//Spare the rod, spoil the child.
 
2007-08-30 08:24:55 AM
I had a 5th grade Math teacher, ex Marine, back in 1970 who would whack you several times on the head with his Marine ring. Kids today just don't know how good they have it. I say Cow prods in every classroom.
 
2007-08-30 08:27:43 AM
Solty Dog: Not raising your hand to talk, that's a night in the box.
Incomplete homework assignments, that's a night in the box.
Passing notes in class, that's a night in the box.


I'm the teacher here and Im responsible for keeping order....Any student that doesn't keep order spends a night....
 
2007-08-30 08:29:32 AM
I wish schools would go back to beating kids.

I remember going to first grade at a little school in Kentucky in an area where 10 minutes in either direction you'd either be in the sticks or in the 'burbs of Cincinnati.

My first grade teacher was a lady named Ms. Brock. She had a bigass wart on her face, a beehive hairdo and always wore the same nasty polyester pantsuit. If you farked around in her class, she'd bend you over her knee right in front of everyone and beat you with the sole of an old work boot.

Guess how many kids misbehaved in her class? Hardly any. It only took one round with that work boot's sole before you realized you didn't want to fark up again.

For really hard cases, the principle had a real, old-school paddle. Chances are, if you made it to his office after Ms. Brock had already disciplined you, then you deserved whatever came of it upon arriving at the principle's office.
 
2007-08-30 08:31:52 AM
Cagey B: kingMountain: RyoShin: We'll be Australia II.

Electric Kangaroo?

WIN


YAY! My first guffaw of the morning!

On related news, I'm glad Florida is getting *something* right...
 
2007-08-30 08:34:41 AM
Hero tag?
 
2007-08-30 08:57:44 AM
CARL_WEATHERS: SOLITARY CONFINEMENT WON'T STOP ME FROM KNOWING ALL YOUR SECRETS

The girl looks like she's about to punch the boy.
 
2007-08-30 09:00:48 AM
A lot of kids who act up are full of energy and are being forced to sit still. Make them run around the track a bunch of times. Get the energy out.
 
2007-08-30 09:02:13 AM
"Goin' to recess here, Boss"

"Go to recess, Luke"
 
2007-08-30 09:22:08 AM
stiletto_the_wise: * Dress code? Check.
* Metal detectors? Check.
* Armed security? Check.
* Zero tolerance policies? Check.
* Enforcement of arbitrary rules? Check.
* Solitary confinement? CHECK!

We are quickly turning our schools into prisons. I'll challenge anyone to find a difference between the two in about five years, if things keep going the way they're going.


The main difference is that you'll get to go home at the end of the night to be with your family. Speaking of which, if more families were more involved in the children's lives and education, a lot of these problems would be resolved.

/get off my lawn
//I keep it! (SNL)
 
2007-08-30 09:30:22 AM
We had an incident here just day-b4-yesterday - first week school reopened. Someone saw 6 police cars -3 sheriff deputies & 3 state troopers at a rural high school right after school let out....and asked what happened. Yesterday the report came out - on way to buses, 4 thugs jumped a boy for something that happened during summer vacation.

Cops hauled them all away in handcuffs - including the victim - because he fought back! "Strict school policy" they said, which includes mandatory 10-day suspension, followed by review hearing to determine if they'll be let back in the school....INCLUDING THE VICTIM!!!

How FARK'd is that?!?!? It's absolutely NUTZ! I suppose they're just wanting to ensure the victim is out on the streets, to give the punks opportunity to finish the job.

I'm right now waiting for the principal to return my call, so I can tell him what I think of their "policy". And the Board of Education meeting next Thursday night will enjoy my presence & commentary, also!

And they wonder why home-schooling is growing. BAH!!!

* * *
 
2007-08-30 09:32:58 AM
As disturbing as I find this, it's definitely nothing new. When I was in elementary school(early '90s) I had a bit of a habit of acting out, and it became quite common for the principal to send me to a small book closet by her office, probably 5'x 4', with nothing but a small desk where I would be forced to copy the dictionary. The door to the closet was always closed while I was in there and I distinctly remember her locking it at times because I would frequently become anxious and open the door, or come out to ask for water, I remember it always being cold as hell in there and being bored out of my mind. I'm not going to sit here and say it caused any serious damage to me, but looking back I find the whole thing more than just a little disturbing.

I wonder why I always resented school so much.
 
2007-08-30 09:36:11 AM
mreuther: What we have here... is FAILURE to communicate.

WIN! *LMAO*


\Linkfark -- Def need some Strother Martin relief up in here, boss.

* * *
 
2007-08-30 09:43:28 AM
starhopper: We had an incident here just day-b4-yesterday - first week school reopened. Someone saw 6 police cars -3 sheriff deputies & 3 state troopers at a rural high school right after school let out....and asked what happened. Yesterday the report came out - on way to buses, 4 thugs jumped a boy for something that happened during summer vacation.

Cops hauled them all away in handcuffs - including the victim - because he fought back! "Strict school policy" they said, which includes mandatory 10-day suspension, followed by review hearing to determine if they'll be let back in the school....INCLUDING THE VICTIM!!!

How FARK'd is that?!?!? It's absolutely NUTZ! I suppose they're just wanting to ensure the victim is out on the streets, to give the punks opportunity to finish the job.

I'm right now waiting for the principal to return my call, so I can tell him what I think of their "policy". And the Board of Education meeting next Thursday night will enjoy my presence & commentary, also!

And they wonder why home-schooling is growing. BAH!!!

* * *


This is why lawyers will NEVER starve to death in this country. It's also why schools NEVER have enough money. Pinhead administrators come up with crap like this to get sued over. Don't forget to remind the school board who they work for, they like that.
 
2007-08-30 09:43:58 AM
WanderinHere 2007-08-30 06:27:33 AM
You have to react with swift, brutal violence, or they dont learn.

Amen, brother. Amen.
 
2007-08-30 10:14:32 AM
My third and fourth grade teacher was the disciplinarian for the school. He had his paddle on the wall behind his desk.
Once in a while he would get a phone call in class, grab the paddle and go down to the office for a few minutes. We all knew what it meant and when he came back, well, you could have heard a pin drop in that room.

I got it once for starting a fight in the hall. Once was all it took and I was a good kid the rest of the year.
 
2007-08-30 10:18:05 AM
starhopper:Cops hauled them all away in handcuffs - including the victim - because he fought back! "Strict school policy" they said, which includes mandatory 10-day suspension, followed by review hearing to determine if they'll be let back in the school....INCLUDING THE VICTIM!!!

I can't blame the cops for hauling everyone away and then sorting it out, but if the victim's story checked out, the school punishing him is just asinine.

/"Zero tolerance" means never having to bother with thinking.
//don't get me wrong, I think the schools have a discipline deficiency, but that's no reason for enacting stupid rules
///DNRTFA, so I'm not commenting on that
 
2007-08-30 10:23:08 AM
Thats nothing new, we had the same thing, you would get locked in a closet sized room in the office with a little window so they could watch you. I used the time wisely and slept
 
2007-08-30 10:35:22 AM
Zotfripper: Teacher: "Tommy, go get in the 'Tomorrow Box'.
Tommy: "Tomorrow Box??"
Teacher: "I can't deal with you today. GO."


FTW!

Schools may need to issue body armor for teachers. Maybe also condoms? Naaaahhh....
 
2007-08-30 10:44:58 AM
I will go to a comment from the bye bye plane thread. If your precious crotch fruit can't control themselves they need to be in solitary confinement. To many people want the school to raise little Johnny. But tell Johnny that he's NOT special just because his butt is different from everyone else and the poor teacher has some crazed she bear screaming for their job.

/Teacher=Hero
//unless their sleeping with their students.
///unless their hot
 
2007-08-30 10:55:14 AM
starhopper: We had an incident here just day-b4-yesterday - first week school reopened. Someone saw 6 police cars -3 sheriff deputies & 3 state troopers at a rural high school right after school let out....and asked what happened. Yesterday the report came out - on way to buses, 4 thugs jumped a boy for something that happened during summer vacation.

Cops hauled them all away in handcuffs - including the victim - because he fought back! "Strict school policy" they said, which includes mandatory 10-day suspension, followed by review hearing to determine if they'll be let back in the school....INCLUDING THE VICTIM!!!

How FARK'd is that?!?!? It's absolutely NUTZ! I suppose they're just wanting to ensure the victim is out on the streets, to give the punks opportunity to finish the job.

I'm right now waiting for the principal to return my call, so I can tell him what I think of their "policy". And the Board of Education meeting next Thursday night will enjoy my presence & commentary, also!

And they wonder why home-schooling is growing. BAH!!!

* * *


Meh. When I was in high school a friend of mine got jumped while leaving school to head for the buses, and I happened to be there and so got jumped as well, the reasoning being apparently my friend brushed against the other girl too hard on the way out the door and she and her friends took great offense. I didn't fight back because I didn't want trouble and I knew my parents would kill me if I got suspended. When all was said and done I ended up in the hospital with a concussion and got suspended anyway just for being in the fight, whether I fought back or not. Ended up I needed the ten days to recuperate anyway.

A school psychiatrist evaluated me once I got back and informed me that it was my fault that this all happened and did his best to manipulate me into confessing that I had started all the trouble. I remember breaking down in tears at one point but I refused to admit to something I had not done. To make a long story short I got my HS diploma elsewhere.

/Public schools are teh suck.
 
2007-08-30 11:08:08 AM
TechieZero://Spare the rod, spoil the child.

I do not think this means what you think it means.

"Spare the rod, spoil the child" means that if you spare the rod, you will spoil the child. In other words, if you fail to properly discipline your child he'll end up a spoiled little brat.

Article is farked, but frankly I think schools do need to do more to discipline students. Kids these days are turning into little shiats with no respect for authority. This needs to change, litigious helicopter parents be damned.
 
2007-08-30 11:42:29 AM
If by new method you mean already employed by many schools.

They do this at my mom's school already. They also have been taught how to safely restrain a child so they cannot harm themselves or others.

It is usually reserved for the completely out of control kids. Bonus, the room is padded so the kid cant hurt himself. Usually
 
2007-08-30 11:50:25 AM
In 1st grade a friend and I sat near each other with a boy we both liked between us. We were both talking to him when the coont-ass teacher punished only me by sending me to the back of the room to sit by myself for the REST OF THE YEAR. Scarred me for life.... *sniff*
 
2007-08-30 12:17:49 PM
As a teacher, I'm finding all these punishhment ideas really helpful...should be a great year behavior-wise!!!
 
2007-08-30 12:31:42 PM
"What time's farking smoker?
What time do we knock off?
I'm bustin' for a farkin shiat
so where's the thunderbox?
When do we get our rolly-weed
and our six cold cans of piss?
And most of all I wanna know
who's farking show is this?"

Miss Brown bobbed and weaved her way across the wide schoolyard.
Right up to where that little shiat was drinking gin and playing cards.
When she whacked him with a four-by-two everybody turned and gawked.
She said, "Listen here, you little shiat. We're gonna farking talk!

There ain't no farking smoker.
I'll say when we knock off.
I'll tell you when to farking shiat, too,
'cause I'm the farking boss!
There ain't no farking rolly-weed.
You'll get fark-all here for free.
If you wanna know who's in farking charge ..."
*bonks him again*
"... it's farking me!"

/Appropriate tune by Kevin "Bloody" Wilson
//Heavily excerpted and edited
///The Kid (He swears a little bit)
 
2007-08-30 01:44:34 PM
I prefer tasers to solitary. As the punished offender screams and twitches on the floor, the rest of the students are given a graphic lesson in the consequences of misbehavior.

Spare the amps, spoil the child.
 
2007-08-31 04:03:14 AM
A related article:

WINK News received several tips from parents about time-out rooms at Lee County Schools.

We found out they're also called Quiet Rooms or Learning Labs", but to parents we spoke with they're jail cells used to torture children.

Our four month investigation uncovered a total of 14 time-out rooms in elementary schools throughout the district.

Kellie Elders tells us she witnessed teachers sitting on her autistic daughter 7 year old Caitlin's back while she was being restrained on the floor of a time out room at Pelican Elementary School.

She says Caitlin was sent to the room multiple times a week and her child isn't the only one.

The district would not comment on these specific allegations, however we have been told teachers are specially trained to restrain children and help them calm down.

Lee County School District Spokesperson Joe Donzelli says, "It's an area where we can isolate them from others because we don't want them to hurt themselves or the staff or other students."

Parent Kellie Elders says, "No child should ever have to go through this."

WINK News found out there isn't a district policy on the use of rooms, instead it's up to the principals.

We asked to see if the principals had a written policy or procedures of using the room, we were told there isn't one.

According to the Lee County School District these schools have Time-Out Rooms:

Colonial
Franklin Park
Harns Marsh
Pelican
Ray V. Pottorf
Rayma C. Page
Trafalgar
Michigan Academy
Mirror Lakes
North Fort Myers Academy for the Arts
Gulf
Veterans Park Academy
J. Colin English
Pinewoods
 
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