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2007-08-28 10:43:50 AM
"It's a cultural thing, I think," Jamie said. "Most brothers didn't know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn't know that was Fed time. So, mike probably just didn't read his handbook on what not to do as a black star."



So, torturing dogs is a cultural thing?

WTF?

How do you NOT know dogfighting is a bad thing?

If I accidentally step on my dog's paw, the yelp travels right up my spine.

I seriously cannot fathom that kind of ignorance.


Seriously, what's it going to take for the Black man to condemn another black man for his actions? Us white folks toss other white folks under the bus everyday.
 
2007-08-28 10:49:45 AM
I've always heard of dogfighting being a poor/black thing, primarily. I can't disagree with the cultural assertion.

My neighbors are Pakistani and most of that culture treats dogs as a very low form of animal life. They let their last dog get injured, no treatment, and I finally called the HS...dog was gone the next day. The new one is a pit bull. Zero human contact, very poorly socialized, lives in the back yard in its own filth. Cultural respect, okay...but cultural relativism is crap, IMO.
 
2007-08-28 10:50:28 AM
The extent that people are willing to go to forgive him is really sad. But Foxx has a valid point here:

"I know that cruelty to animals is bad, but sometimes people shoot people and kill people and don't get time," Jamie continued.

The fact that horrible animal cruelty is involved just cranks up the emo factor (an understandably so).
 
2007-08-28 10:51:31 AM
media3.washingtonpost.com

"It's a cultural thing, I think," Jamie said. "Most brothers didn't know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn't know that was Fed time. So, mike probably just didn't read his handbook on what not to do as a black star."

By far the most ignorant thing I have read all day.
 
2007-08-28 10:53:59 AM
Bonkthat_Again

Newsletter request
 
2007-08-28 10:54:07 AM
Yeah, that's why you're a racist. Jamie Fox's comments made you hate black people. Sure.
 
2007-08-28 10:55:28 AM
Between this guy and Kanye y'all got some crazy mofos across the pond there.
 
2007-08-28 10:56:08 AM
*sigh* Yeah all the of animals that are killed daily burning down the rain forests so McDonald's can have cheap hamburgers is just fine. They then kill 10 million cows a year by shooting them in the head with a bolt and/or cutting their throat and bleeding them to death.

The displacement of wildlife and their slow deaths to put up new housing developments that's OK too, but dogs OH HELL NO!

Humans kill shiat all the time because it suits them. I just really don't see the difference.
 
2007-08-28 10:57:30 AM
Dog fighting should be legal and regulated. It's really no different from horseracing or dog racing from an ethical standpoint.
 
2007-08-28 10:57:37 AM
Gwendolyn

Don't forget we pay thousands of dollars per ticket to watch other humans beat the shiat out of each for sport.
 
2007-08-28 11:02:08 AM
Action Replay Nick: Dog fighting should be legal and regulated. It's really no different from horseracing or dog racing from an ethical standpoint.

Huh?

Dog racing is on another level. They just treat them like shiat. I hate that industry too.

But horse racing? Have you ever seen the living conditions of race horses? Some of them live better than most humans.
 
2007-08-28 11:03:01 AM
Action Replay Nick: Dog fighting should be legal and regulated. It's really no different from horseracing or dog racing from an ethical standpoint.

The troll fu is strong in this one.
 
2007-08-28 11:03:06 AM
Action Replay Nick

Have you ever seen horse fighting, I saw it somewhere and they do it in Vietnam or some place, that shiat is brutal and hard to watch.
 
2007-08-28 11:06:50 AM
Horse fighting would be awesome.

Bonkthat_Again
Have you ever seen the living conditions of race horses? Some of them live better than most humans.

That's all fine and dandy until the horse breaks a leg and is sent off to the glue factory.
 
2007-08-28 11:10:47 AM
Action Replay Nick

Not always, if it is a prized stallion they will keep him for studding purposes.

Horse Fighting (new window)
 
2007-08-28 11:11:29 AM
Gwendolyn: I just really don't see the difference.

Maybe we're not gathered in a circle around the cows wagering and cheering as they tear each other to death? That's one of the first of many differences that occurred to me fairly quickly. I like you lots and I get the point you're making, but the "I can't see the difference" argument often makes people appear either disingenuous or unsmart.
 
2007-08-28 11:13:06 AM
Action Replay Nick:
That's all fine and dandy until the horse breaks a leg and is sent off to the glue factory.


Not only is it more humane for ANY horse with a leg injury to be put down, but in racing, that doesn't happen. Racehorses are expensive and are a big investment, owners see to it to get injuries fixed if they can. How many threads did we have last year about Barbaro? Those horses have access to better healthcare than most humans do.

Oh and let's not forget that if they do manage to fix the leg, it's off the stud farm to live out their lives. Oh the cruelty. Those poor things, forced to frolic and fark the rest of their days. Won't somebody please think of the children.
 
2007-08-28 11:14:24 AM
i'm all for getting rid of horse/dog racing and especially the horse vs dog races they show on ESPN 2.
 
2007-08-28 11:14:34 AM
Being one of the token whiteys in my office, I had to opt out of the Michael Vick discussion going on at my desk.

It went something like this:

Guy 1: You know what's going to happen to all those dogs they can't find a place for?
Me: They're going to euthanise them humanely
Guy 1: What's the difference between that and eating chicken. Do you have any idea how many bugs you kill every day. You gonna wear a mask every day to keep from killing bugs?
Me: You know that's not the same thing.
Guy 1: Pit bulls are a violent breed anyway.
Me: Well that's the problem. You have backyard breeders that are breeding these traits in instead of certified AKC breeders trying to breed the violent traits out.
Guy 2: My dad threw my german shepherd in the yard with my neighbor's pit bull, and you know what he did?
Guy 1: He defended himself
Guy 2: Yeah, he defended himself.
Me: *facepalm*

I grew up in the same place as one of these guys and 30 minutes away from Smithfield, where Vick's stuff was going on.

/I have no idea what kind of point I'm trying to make
 
2007-08-28 11:14:55 AM
onecanshort

Actually, when they are moved to a stud farm there is no farking, with prized animals it is all done artificially, so it is just hand jobs and frolicking
 
2007-08-28 11:15:26 AM
Action Replay Nick: Horse fighting would be awesome.

You! New keyboard NOW!
 
2007-08-28 11:16:21 AM
Chiggity Chza: so it is just hand jobs and frolicking

They get Fark accounts?!
 
2007-08-28 11:17:22 AM
onecanshort: Not only is it more humane for ANY horse with a leg injury to be put down, but in racing, that doesn't happen. Racehorses are expensive and are a big investment, owners see to it to get injuries fixed if they can. How many threads did we have last year about Barbaro? Those horses have access to better healthcare than most humans do.


You are talking about the most famous race horse at the moment. I think you are forgetting about the horses out at your local racetrack. they don't get that kind of care.
 
2007-08-28 11:20:24 AM
I love how people are TOTALLY ok with the violence of the human meat grinder that is football but are up in arms as soon as a puppy dies.


If you hate dog fighting, you should hate football.
 
2007-08-28 11:20:36 AM
Watchman
They get Fark accounts?!


I said hand jobs and frolicking, not ass raping and ridicule
 
2007-08-28 11:21:21 AM
onecanshort
Not only is it more humane for ANY horse with a leg injury to be put down,

Well, obviously the dog fighting should be regulated to mitigate or eliminate abuse.

Come on, we're not talking about pitting Fluffy against Snowflake here, these are pitbulls. Half of America thinks they should be outlawed and euthanised, and anyone with two braincells will acknowledge that it doesn't take much to get them to unleash their killing instincts.
 
2007-08-28 11:21:38 AM
I know that cruelty to animals is bad, but sometimes people shoot people and kill people and don't get time


And sometimes they stab the shiat out of two people and don't get time.

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2007-08-28 11:22:12 AM
Chiggity Chza: Watchman
They get Fark accounts?!

I said hand jobs and frolicking, not ass raping and ridicule


To some people they are of equal quality.
 
2007-08-28 11:23:08 AM
OJ Simpson.

Rodney King.

9/11.

/just getting these out of the way early
 
2007-08-28 11:23:30 AM
Gwendolyn: onecanshort: Not only is it more humane for ANY horse with a leg injury to be put down, but in racing, that doesn't happen. Racehorses are expensive and are a big investment, owners see to it to get injuries fixed if they can. How many threads did we have last year about Barbaro? Those horses have access to better healthcare than most humans do.


You are talking about the most famous race horse at the moment. I think you are forgetting about the horses out at your local racetrack. they don't get that kind of care.


Yes I know Barbaro was the most extreme case but even at the local tracks, Monmouth Park/Belmont/Saratoga (granted all are the tops of the trade) the horses still have exceptional care when they are injured because they are all investments for their owners.

Anyways, there's a HUGE difference in putting a horse down because it has suffered an injury that will cause it pain and more than likely kill it from the infection to electrocuting/strangling/cutting a dog to death because it lost a fight.


Chiggity Chza:

onecanshort

Actually, when they are moved to a stud farm there is no farking, with prized animals it is all done artificially, so it is just hand jobs and frolicking


Still, nice way to retire.
 
2007-08-28 11:25:58 AM
kingMountain: i'm all for getting rid of horse/dog racing and especially the horse vs dog races they show on ESPN 2.

I saw midgets vs. camels racing on TV once. I laughed, then felt guilty. The midgets didn't get to wear shoes.
 
2007-08-28 11:27:38 AM
NukeTheGayWhales: The midgets didn't get to wear shoes.

not even the little shoes that curlicue at the toe?
 
2007-08-28 11:29:32 AM
Action Replay Nick

You don't own a Pit do you? I do and he is the sweetest thing on earth. Basically, a dog is a dog is a dog. You have to be extremely threatening to make my dog "unleash its killer instinct." My dog is less likely to bite someone than Paris' ugly ass little chihuahua. Only difference is that my dog is strong as an ox and tough as a nail. My dog catches bugs and plays with it like a cat, that is the extent of his killer instinct unprovoked. But if you provoke any animal/dog, the breed becomes moot point. Pit bull attacks are usually made up because of ignorance.

Find The Pit Bull (new window)
 
2007-08-28 11:29:35 AM
marcre3363: OJ Simpson.

Rodney King.

9/11.

/just getting these out of the way early


you forgot Hitler.
 
2007-08-28 11:29:48 AM
kingMountain: NukeTheGayWhales: The midgets didn't get to wear shoes.

not even the little shoes that curlicue at the toe?


Sadly no. But I like where you're going with that.
 
2007-08-28 11:31:42 AM
EdMon: I love how people are TOTALLY ok with the violence of the human meat grinder that is football but are up in arms as soon as a puppy dies.


If you hate dog fighting, you should hate football.


Yeah because when Rex Grossman throws up a hail mary that gets picked off, Lovie Smith runs out onto the field and beats him into submission with a cattle prod.


Action Replay Nick:

Well, obviously the dog fighting should be regulated to mitigate or eliminate abuse.

Come on, we're not talking about pitting Fluffy against Snowflake here, these are pitbulls. Half of America thinks they should be outlawed and euthanised, and anyone with two braincells will acknowledge that it doesn't take much to get them to unleash their killing instincts.


Actually I've heard more arguments, and I tend to agree, that pits are bred to be aggressive, the more ones who are shown to have a more naturally aggressive nature are then bred with one another and so on. Plus saying you want to regulate dogfighting to eliminate abuse is kind of an oxymoron, the fights are to the death, that's pretty inhumane. I've never seen one, but I don't think there's a panel of judges keeping track of jabs and body blows on the sideline during a fight.
 
2007-08-28 11:31:53 AM
NukeTheGayWhales
static.zoovy.com

Hotness
 
2007-08-28 11:34:02 AM
marcre3363: OJ Simpson.

Rodney King.

9/11.

/just getting these out of the way early


You forgot Katrina.

/And slavery.
 
2007-08-28 11:35:09 AM
Action Replay Nick: Yeah, that's why you're a racist. Jamie Fox's comments made you hate black people. Sure.

Yep.
 
2007-08-28 11:35:14 AM
Chiggity Chza

I get it. You own a dog, congratulations. Most of the pitbulls I've come to know over the years have been nice and docile because of good training. However, no matter how good the training, it doesn't take much threatening from another dog to turn a pitbull into the savage beast it naturally is. I think people should be allowed to own them as long as they except the consequences should something go wrong, and I think fighting them should be legal and regulated. It's what they're naturally good at.
 
2007-08-28 11:39:10 AM
Action Replay Nick: and I think fighting them should be legal and regulated. It's what they're naturally good at.

only if it's man vs pitbull fights. that i would watch.
 
2007-08-28 11:41:14 AM
Action Replay Nick: However, no matter how good the training, it doesn't take much threatening from another dog to turn a pitbull into the savage beast it naturally is.

Untrue.

Pit bulls have a far better temperament and are friendlier towards people than most breeds, which makes them poor guard dogs and attack animals.

Excerpt from the United Kennel Club:

"The APBT [American Pit Bull Terrier] is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremely friendly, even with strangers. Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed and highly undesirable."

/Quit trolling, butthead.
 
2007-08-28 11:43:46 AM
ginger ninja: Guy 1: You know what's going to happen to all those dogs they can't find a place for?
Me: They're going to euthanise them humanely
Guy 1: What's the difference between that and eating chicken. Do you have any idea how many bugs you kill every day. You gonna wear a mask every day to keep from killing bugs?


It's helped me calibrate my new "retard-o-meter". If someone can't tell the difference between a dog and a bug then they shouldn't be trusted with any task more mentally taxing than ditch digging.
 
2007-08-28 11:43:47 AM
miseducated: Pit bulls have a far better temperament and are friendlier towards people than most breeds, which makes them poor guard dogs and attack animals.

Yeah, it says a lot about the dogs that you have to constantly train them to attack, starve and abuse them in order to get them to fight.
 
2007-08-28 11:44:52 AM
Action Replay Nick

Dogs are social creatures. I bring mine to the river constantly and other people bring their dogs as well. My pit doesn't even pay attention to other dogs. When dogs come over to him he just walks away and ignores them, only heard him growl once and that was when this big ass golden retriever kept repeatedly trying to mount him. If you grab any dog off the street and put them in the conditions fighting dogs are raised in you will have the same outcome. Once again the breed is a moot point. Fighting is not what they are naturally good at, pit bulls were bred as plow dogs but extorted as fighting dogs because of their strength and gameness. Your ignorance in the subject of dogs is the reason why people go up in arms about pit bulls. To judge a dog by it's breed is like judging a person by the color of their skin or a book by its cover. I know you are smart man and shouldn't make assumptions like that.
 
2007-08-28 11:45:22 AM
miseducated
Pit bulls have a far better temperament and are friendlier towards people than most breeds,

I wasn't talking about people, I specifically said other dogs. I'm actually not trolling, I have no sentimental attachment to animals whatsoever, and if dog and horse racing isn't abuse, neither is dog fighting, as far as I can tell.

Of course, all of the sadistic torture and post-mortem mutilation of the dogs in the Vick case is sick and shouldn't be tolerated, but as far as dogfighting itself goes, I think it should be legal.
 
2007-08-28 11:51:07 AM
Action Replay Nick: and if dog and horse racing isn't abuse, neither is dog fighting, as far as I can tell.

i would say dog and horse racing is abuse as well. honestly don't care if the horse is wearing gold-plated diapers, i don't see any point to animal-based sports whatsoever.
 
2007-08-28 11:51:43 AM
Action Replay Nick

I agree with you, legalize it, regulate it and tax it. I have no problems with that. I do have problems with assumptions that are being made of a certain breeds. Since, I do own a pit I accept responsibility for what he may or may not do. The problem is if my dog does bite someone I am looking at felony charges as opposed to if Joh Doe's lab bites someone he looking at a slap on a wrist. It is discrimination. Ditto for rottweilers, bull terriers, dobermans, chows, corsos and any other "vicious" breed out there.
 
2007-08-28 11:53:58 AM
Action Replay Nick: and if dog and horse racing isn't abuse, neither is dog fighting, as far as I can tell.

By that token, if it's not abuse to force your kids to play football or soccer, it's not abuse to force your kids to fight other kids to the point of tearing flesh and biting skin off.

Fortunately, the sane portion of society disagrees with you.
 
2007-08-28 11:58:51 AM
Gwendolyn: To some people they are of equal quality.

Thanks! ... I mean, "Heeeeyyy!" :-(
 
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