derfiticulum: I believe you're thinking of FlyNavy. He was outted in spectacular fashion. I would link to the thread but I'm too lazy....and I ought to be working.

Oh thats right. That was hi-larious.

/no offense airforcevet
//or anyone else

Well if you go by the real DFAS website... there is no E10.

I'm retired AF and had to look it up as I certainly didn't remember the CMSAF being anything but a specialty paid E-9.

http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/newinformation/WebPayTableVersion2006updated.p df

karlcore

Chock full of fail.
Methinks you forgot about the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy


MC Pootn?

Thought he was in the FSB not Navy....

FlippityFlap-Even though almost no one will get the joke.

oh yeah! i got that one!...>.>

I would believe lasers and cruise missiles brought down the the WTC before I would believe this crash was a conspiracy.

rawkus: maybe they found out they weren't working for the US military at all but rather some shadowy organization working contrary to American interests and took down the chopper in a final act of defiance?

You mean network television?

/Afraid of TPC

Daffydil: AddictedToFoobies-DJ Hitler cracks me up... don't know why.

me too!

When did you get assimilated?? I thought you were a hater of the Hitleresque.

MaximusIncontinius: There is one E-10 per branch at all times. Just in case you didn't know.

The Sgt Major of the Army is an E-9, his position is uperior, but there is no E-10 rank

Same thing if you look at the O-10 who is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, his position is superior to all the other O-10s but he isn't an O-11

Ok, how bout we stick with TODAY's military, or perhaps you'd like to be addressed as Centurion?

Current Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy is Joe R. Campa
Current Sergeant Major of the Army is Kenneth O. Preston

Should I keep going?

The E designation is a pay grade, I sure hope yuo were never in charge of anyone if you were ever in.

I was too busy becoming a killing machine to worry about being "in charge".

And hey, try sticking to actual MILITARY (new window) sites for references and not stuff someone made up as they went along

Not sure if you know this, but Navy.mil IS a Military site.

FlippityFlap: SherKhan:


You win.....


Even though almost no one will get the joke.


"Jesus Nut" holds the rotor on....

Heck I got it early on. ANd it's good on ALL levels.

King Something: nashBridges: Well, it sure seems like it.

:::snip:::

If you'll buy the "coincidence" bit, then I've got a great package deal for you - a bridge in Brooklyn, some swampland in Florida, and discount volcano insurance. (p)

you're shiatting me. volcano insurance???@?! I live in central Illinois. I NEED VOLCANO INSURANCE! if the discovery channel is to believed i am a prime target for those greek terrorist volcanos!

I'll take one, please.

I'm actually a helicopter propeller and I am getting a kick out of these replies!

Evil Twin Skippy: jmayson: Ninja Wicked:

My wife actually worked on premature tie rod failure on the blackhawk, so I'm getting a real kick...

Actually in this case they had vendor A and vendor B. Vendor A charged a whole lot more. Vendor B's parts seemingly made spec, but only if you cherry picked the good ones.

The army bought B.

Turns out the quality control on the heat treating was not up to spec. Faced with throwing out a few million dollars in parts, the Army just decided to re-treat the parts themselves.

In the words of my wife: "You will never, never, never fly in a military chopper. IS THAT CLEAR?"

Well to me that seems to reflect poorly on the military (pentagon), and not necessarily the soldiers themselves.

Theros-When did you get assimilated?? I thought you were a hater of the Hitleresque.

there's not much i hate...just asshole farkers mostly. the rest i just dislike

/not implying you're one ;)

MaximusIncontinius

Let me ask you this, does the insignia worn by the MCPON differ from a Master Chief?

MCPON collar device has three stars on the collar device, the usual two for Master Chief, and the third on the top of the anchor (like a Senior Chief). For sleeve insignia, it's for above the crow and one where the rating device usually is.

3Horn

E-7s can have entire choppers whacked to save their own asses?

Sweet, one paygrade to go and I'll be invulnerable!

Daffydil: gimmedaloot

Hitler war...



AddictedToFoobies-Smells like... boredom.

definately!

Theros

btw...how you doin'?

Gwendolyn:

Yeah for some reason engineers didn't take the possibility of sand getting into everything. It's friggen stupid.

like having problems getting the Snow Speeders adjusted to the cold. if we had desert helicopters that is.

UnkleKrakker
And hey, try sticking to actual MILITARY (new window) sites for references and not stuff someone made up as they went along

Hey, you do of course know that the site that you linked to "Army Times" is not an official DOD website, right?

3Horn

3horn is correct.


Different insignia, different pay. Sounds like an e-10 to me.

The Navy's All Hands Guide (new window) from the Navy Media Center (www.mediacen.navy.mil) agrees that the MCPON is an E-10. But of course, anything ending with .mil is not official, amirite?

one thing i learned from my paratrooper days was to be able to read between the lines on News Stories...

So many special ops and shiat going down and if anything ever goes bad it gets news as being a training accident etc.

Having been in the Army do I believe foul play could be involved?

Hell yes.

gimmedaloot-you want to make a GODWIN? NO SOUP FOR YOU!

theorellior: LOL. FLYNAVY got outed? I guess I hadn't noticed him chiming in for a while. Did he really have six kids and lived in the middle of nowhere? Or was it all an autistic kid's dream?

Apparently, if he was in the Navy, he was an E-4 living in California, and nobody with his name had ever attended any service academy.

I_C_Weener: There is no way...NO WAY...that fire could melt metal. NO WAY AT ALL PEOPLE. ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? Wake up people. They are lying to you...and you...AND ESPECIALLY YOU!

Uh...did you forget your meds today? What do you think you use when you weld? Its fire melting metal...or is it?

/goes off to put on tin foil hat

Ooooooo, conspiracy thread! I still belive in the lone gunman with a magic bullet from the Grassy sand dune brought down the Chopper with a single round that went through the head of the pilot, the sholder of the co-pilot and then penitrated the Hydrolic system and caused the fuel lines to freeze from the cold caused by Global Warming and amplified by Bush's Weather Machine.

I have photoshoped evidance too.

Molavian
Ha, no they really don't, do they? Ever been to a promotion after someone gets them? When you walk the gauntlet you'll know it, that's for sure.

One of the Lances in my Aircrew class put on CPL, he was not a happy camper doing runs that week. All the same, my left arm was pretty much useless for a couple of days after I put on Third.

Ad I would like to officially denounce myself for my previous statement that cited the existence of E-10. It is proof that I am indeed a moran.

3Horn

/Choppers are deathtraps anyways
//Flying egg beaters; God bless the pilots, but never again would be too soon for this guy

Isn't some of the danger due to the change in the way helicopters are flown in Iraq. I thought after a few helicopters were shot down in Iraq, normal flight was changed to very low and very fast.

theorellior: LOL. FLYNAVY got outed? I guess I hadn't noticed him chiming in for a while. Did he really have six kids and lived in the middle of nowhere? Or was it all an autistic kid's dream?

Yeah, he got busted big. It was remarkable to watch in real-time.

He had me fooled. Of course, I was never in the service and am an idiot anyways.

This would have to be a pretty special E-7 to waste 2 warrant officers and a squad of other NCOs/enlisted plus a bajillion dollar chopper.

karlcore: I was too busy becoming a killing machine to worry about being "in charge".

I was in for over a decade, most of it combat arms, got out an E-7, you spent your whole time not being in charge of anything?

Not sure if you know this, but Navy.mil IS a Military site.

You are correct, the website is a navy school (appearance is deceiving), but there is no-one in the pay grade E-10.

Sir Charles: Yeah, he got busted big. It was remarkable to watch in real-time.

Link to thread? Anyone?

baby_hewey
penitrated the Hydrolic system

Well, there's your problem, you're not supposed to grow weed in helos.

3Horn

Is it just me or has there been an alarming increase in the numbers of the "grammar and spelling deficient" on Fark lately? It seems now that I can hardly go every other post without someone making English want to kill itself.

Daffydil: gimmedaloot-you want to make a GODWIN? NO SOUP FOR YOU!

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UnkleKrakker: Same thing if you look at the O-10 who is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, his position is superior to all the other O-10s but he isn't an O-11

Technically the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is the highest ranking general. Theoretically this could be any rank should some bizaar retirement surge occurred.

The highest officer rank attainable in the Army is the five star general, General of the Army. A temporary rank used only in times of declared war.

koba22: AirForceVet: Outtaphase: Sgt. not equal officer, subby.

Submitter was technically correct. Pay grades 0-1 & up are commissioned officers. Generally, pay grades E-5 & up are noncommissioned officers (NCOs) in all military branches while some start NCO status at the E-4 pay grade.

No NCO is going to claim being an officer, though. Calling an NCO a superior officer doesn't work. Unless you're in the air force where everyone thinks they are an officer.

Ha ha ha. We certainly had people who thought they were but no one was going to be dumb enough to make that claim. Seriously, who'd want people to mistake you for a butter bar?

I mean hell they don't even have an E-10 pay grade :) -

Link (new window)

3horn: UnkleKrakker
And hey, try sticking to actual MILITARY (new window) sites for references and not stuff someone made up as they went along

Hey, you do of course know that the site that you linked to "Army Times" is not an official DOD website, right?

3Horn

I can link to the DOD site but it's pdf (new window) and a bit slow to load

Please take note of:
4. For the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy, Chief Master Sergeant of the AF, Sergeant Major of the Army or Marine Corps or Senior Enlisted Advisor of the JCS, basic pay is $6,642.60

It is Position Pay, not E-10

in the same sense as:
2. While serving as Chairman, Joint Chief of Staff/Vice Chairman, Joint Chief of Staff, Chief of Navy Operations, Commandant of the Marine Corps, Army/Air Force Chief of Staff, Commander of a unified or
specified combatant command, basic pay is $15,959.40 (See note 1 above
is not O-11

Someone should tell This guy (new window) his rank, pay grade, and insignia don't exist.

Sir Charles: Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.

Yeah, Osama's boys were just incompetent pilots.

baby_hewey: Ooooooo, conspiracy thread! I still belive in the lone gunman with a magic bullet from the Grassy sand dune brought down the Chopper with a single round that went through the head of the pilot, the sholder of the co-pilot and then penitrated the Hydrolic system and caused the fuel lines to freeze from the cold caused by Global Warming and amplified by Bush's Weather Machine.

I have photoshoped evidance too.

Nah, the lone gunman is the guy who takes out multi-million dollar US tanks with one round of some tiny funky ammunition.

Who knows what it was and who fired it but it did the trick unfortunately.

Now, maybe it's just me, but wouldn't it make sense that, if they were going to testify for any trial relating to the U.S. Military, that they would be kept out of active duty, at least to the point where they were out of harms way?

ClicheGuevara07: but wouldn't it make sense that

Stop right there.

MaximusIncontinius: Someone should tell This guy (new window) his rank, pay grade, and insignia don't exist.

I don't think anyone said anything about his rank or insignia. The only thing I've talked about is the E-10 pay grade