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(East Volusia)   Uber-geek physics professor creates a course dissecting bad physics in movie special effects. Also offers extra credit if students submit their dissertation on the "Han shot first" debate   (news-journalonline.com) divider line 656
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zz9
2007-08-27 11:31:19 AM  
I spotted a misstake in 2001. The movie, not the year.

Even a a child I wondered how the Bionic Man could lift a car with his bionic legs and bionic arm. What about the bit that connects them, his very ordinary spine? It always bugged me.
 
2007-08-27 11:43:33 AM  
The liquid metal Terminator in the second movie pissed me off. One of the hard and fast rules they made up in the first movie was that only living tissue could travel back in time, which is why Reese couldn't bring back any effective weapons with which to fight the Terminator. The Terminator could travel through time because he was a machine encased in living flesh (which suggests that Kyle could have brought back small weapons smuggled in his rectum or something, but that's another matter entirely).

But with the liquid metal Terminator, there was no flesh. None. Only the appearance of flesh when he changed forms. So he should never have been able to travel back in time, period. And the fact that they didn't even bother to address this really, really annoyed me, to the point where I still can't watch that movie without feeling angry.
 
2007-08-27 11:48:23 AM  
How about that jump in Speed? zOMG
 
2007-08-27 11:48:38 AM  
Greedo thread?
 
2007-08-27 11:49:59 AM  
A wizard did it
 
2007-08-27 11:56:08 AM  
zz9: I spotted a misstake in 2001. The movie, not the year.

Even a a child I wondered how the Bionic Man could lift a car with his bionic legs and bionic arm. What about the bit that connects them, his very ordinary spine? It always bugged me.



Thank you. That always troubled me too. Also if bionic legs were moving "super" fast wouldn't that do some damage to a normal bone hip?

Plus anytime some super powered hero would grab hold of a helicopter and hold it to the ground. Were they griping with their superpowered toes?


And since I look for any reason to post these kinds of pics:
img49.imageshack.us
 
2007-08-27 11:59:50 AM  
And what's with those speeding flashes of light that zoom past Enterprise?
Tiny little suns?
 
2007-08-27 12:03:07 PM  
Bad physics? Anything with Michael Moore.
 
2007-08-27 12:05:55 PM  
Cashew: Bad physics? Anything with Michael Moore.

I really thought that the first troll would be a Loose Change joke.
 
2007-08-27 12:07:22 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: I really thought that the first troll would be a Loose Change joke.

Or at least something clever. That was just stupid.
 
2007-08-27 12:08:11 PM  
I spotted a mistake in subby's spelling of dissertation
 
2007-08-27 12:19:26 PM  
Pocket Ninja: Or at least something clever. That was just stupid.

holy fark batman Pocket Ninja and I agree on something! Trolls do bring us together.

Now for more pics!!

img209.imageshack.us


Also what is up with Superman picking up ships and buildings? I know he is strong enough, however the objects are not. I saw a great cartoon on Fark about how you cant pick up a ship because the structure would not take it.

And dont get me started about Superman flying around the planet to reverse time.
 
2007-08-27 12:23:03 PM  
See-able lasers.

Running faster than a fireball.

Getting 'blown-away' backwards by a bullet as if you were hit with a sack of bricks.
 
2007-08-27 12:33:45 PM  
The biggest one I've noticed is that they all seem to perpetuate the myth that the Earth revolves around the Sun. READ THE BIBLE, LIARS.
 
2007-08-27 12:44:53 PM  
kronicfeld: The biggest one I've noticed is that they all seem to perpetuate the myth that the Earth revolves around the Sun. READ THE BIBLE, LIARS.

The troll-fu is stronger in this one. But I think its more joking then trolling.

MORE PICS!!
img260.imageshack.us


Also what is up with super strong heros punching things? Yeah you're super strong but nowhere was it mentioned that you were indestructible. So you just used your super power to punch a hole in a tank, your hand should be liquefied.
 
Bek
2007-08-27 12:45:57 PM  
See-able lasers.

Lasers that move as projectiles slower than bullets.
 
2007-08-27 12:46:07 PM  
I took a course like this as a freshman seminar... we would watch a film, and then do some calculations about whether this was possible or not, for example, if a laser in a watch could melt metal, or if teleportation could work (the laser thing is possible if you have a huge battery attached, teleportation... not so much). I wrote my final paper on Dr. Who. It was a really cool course, and helped refresh (and learn) a lot of physics for me.
 
2007-08-27 12:46:29 PM  
Han did, in fact shoot first. Princess Cumoniwannalaya was NOT happy.
 
2007-08-27 12:48:57 PM  
I hate the sound that a sword makes when they draw it from a non-metal sheath. Why does it wound like steel on steel?
 
2007-08-27 12:49:44 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Also what is up with Superman picking up ships and buildings? I know he is strong enough, however the objects are not. I saw a great cartoon on Fark about how you cant pick up a ship because the structure would not take it.

Yeah, I always like how superheros pick up heavy objects by lifting a corner, yet are able to lift the entire object off the ground. Super strength aside, they'd have to pick the object up by the center of gravity or at least use one hand to pull on the object to pull the other end off the ground.
 
2007-08-27 12:49:58 PM  
Bek: See-able lasers.

Lasers that move as projectiles slower than bullets.


farm1.static.flickr.com

You are not ready for the quad-laser!
 
2007-08-27 12:51:53 PM  
No YOU'RE a Towel: I hate the sound that a sword makes when they draw it from a non-metal sheath. Why does it wound like steel on steel?

I think the wound it produces is not related to the type of sheath. That is more about how sharp it is.
 
2007-08-27 12:52:13 PM  
My kids put in their updated version of A New Hope just this weekend. I cried a little. Why on earth would Jabba drag himself down there to talk to Han himself?
 
2007-08-27 12:52:17 PM  
rocinante721:
Getting 'blown-away' backwards by a bullet as if you were hit with a sack of bricks.


Well, if the bullet rips straight through, then no. But if a high-calibur bullet were fully stopped by a vest (or maybe your sternum), all the kinetic energy would be transferred to you. That translates to being knocked on your ass.
 
2007-08-27 12:53:16 PM  
Why doesn't Gandalf just ask Gwahir to fly Frodo to Mount Doom?
 
2007-08-27 12:53:19 PM  
Armageddon has the worst physics I've ever seen. Basically any movie (there's several) that involves the space shuttle banking like an airplane in space is made for retards.

Don't even get me started on that stupid gravity thing with Mir. Or the fuel stored on Mir. Or the secret attic room in Mir. Bah!
 
2007-08-27 12:53:26 PM  
No YOU'RE a Towel: I hate the sound that a sword makes when they draw it from a non-metal sheath. Why does it wound like steel on steel?

Even better is how any time someone touches a gun, it makes a variety of clicking and clacking noises. Best of all is when someone "cocks" a semi-automatic. You'd think they could at least play it off that someone is clicking off the safety, but no.
 
2007-08-27 12:53:59 PM  
I agree with the film professor. It's a movie. Anyone who takes a movies seriously needs to get a life.
 
2007-08-27 12:54:30 PM  
images.killermovies.com
 
2007-08-27 12:54:40 PM  
Cashew: Bad physics? Anything with Michael Moore.

I think you misspelled physicians.
 
2007-08-27 12:54:54 PM  
I Like Bread: But if a high-calibur bullet were fully stopped by a vest (or maybe your sternum), all the kinetic energy would be transferred to you. That translates to being knocked on your ass.

You fail.

Study physics and try again.
 
2007-08-27 12:55:03 PM  
The students love 'Armageddon.' They don't like 'Deep Impact.'

I contend the students are morons. Armageddon was a horrible movie.
 
2007-08-27 12:55:16 PM  
zz9: Even a a child I wondered how the Bionic Man could lift a car with his bionic legs and bionic arm. What about the bit that connects them, his very ordinary spine? It always bugged me.

It wasn't ordinary. The skeletal structure was lined with powerful alloys and reenforced, especially the spine and ribcage.

So, what was the error you spotted in 2001? The thing you mentioned was from The Six Million Dollar Man.
 
2007-08-27 12:55:36 PM  
I Like Bread

Well, if the bullet rips straight through, then no. But if a high-calibur bullet were fully stopped by a vest (or maybe your sternum), all the kinetic energy would be transferred to you. That translates to being knocked on your ass.

They would beg to differ:

blog.wired.com
 
2007-08-27 12:55:40 PM  
Scenes like this one have had a dumbing effect on viewers, Efthimiou said.

Like when the helicopter explodes, and the guy hanging under it is shot forward onto a train? This stuff has always bugged me. People also tend to ignore the camera. They think of the screen as a window on reality.

It becomes really bad when you start thinking about it during documentaries, because they are supposed to depict reality. Saw one the other day where a baby egret falls out of a nest into a river and is eaten by pirhana. Three different camera angles caught this "spontaneous" event, one above the nest, one at the waterline, and one under the damn water with the pirhana.

Rewind it and it becomes painfully obvious you're watching someone throw a bird into a fishtank. So much for the exotic Amazon.
 
2007-08-27 12:55:45 PM  
Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show, I should really just relax."
 
2007-08-27 12:55:58 PM  
And why would anyone want to fly around in a spaceship shaped like a scrotum?

www.scifimoviepage.com

Besides me, I mean.
 
2007-08-27 12:56:11 PM  
Why do computers in movies make so much noise? It's all beeps and boops evertime someone opens a webpage. If that were my computer I'd turn off the speakers.
 
2007-08-27 12:56:24 PM  
The other night, I noticed on an episode of Monk, the harmonica on the table kept changing positions.
 
2007-08-27 12:56:38 PM  
The bad astronomy website already has this.

But don't let that stop Stealth Hippo from posting pics ;)
 
2007-08-27 12:57:31 PM  
www.garnersclassics.com
 
2007-08-27 12:57:31 PM  
This is just a ripoff of BadAstronomy.com
 
2007-08-27 12:57:43 PM  
www.fantascienza.com
 
M-G
2007-08-27 12:58:00 PM  
I Like Bread: Well, if the bullet rips straight through, then no. But if a high-calibur bullet were fully stopped by a vest (or maybe your sternum), all the kinetic energy would be transferred to you. That translates to being knocked on your ass.

Which is basically the same amount of energy that goes into recoil of the gun. And most people don't want guns that knock them over every time they fire.
 
2007-08-27 12:58:12 PM  
I Like Bread

Without bringing up Mythbusters...

If a gun doesn't knock you clean on your ass when you fire it then it cannot knock the other guy clean on his ass when the bullet hits him.

And don't go off about how the person with the gun is 'steady' on the ground, ready for it. Just think about it for more than 10 bloody seconds.
 
2007-08-27 12:58:12 PM  
Richard_M_Nixon: No YOU'RE a Towel: I hate the sound that a sword makes when they draw it from a non-metal sheath. Why does it wound like steel on steel?

I think the wound it produces is not related to the type of sheath. That is more about how sharp it is.


I think he meant "sound". Which I also have a problem with. Apparently swords make that 'shing' noise if they're being swung, thrown, or even just being held still. (The movie "Hot Fuzz" did a great bit on that, part of the whole UNNECESSARY ACTION SFX pisstake.)
 
2007-08-27 12:58:20 PM  
rodeofrog: Why doesn't Gandalf just ask Gwahir to fly Frodo to Mount Doom?

Sauron would have spotted them instantly and sent his minions.
 
2007-08-27 12:58:22 PM  
Well you know the guy in this article is full of crap when he says The Core has bad physics!
 
2007-08-27 12:58:47 PM  
rodeofrog: Why doesn't Gandalf just ask Gwahir to fly Frodo to Mount Doom?

Thank you!

I can has deus ex machina?
 
2007-08-27 12:58:52 PM  
Rapmaster2000: Why do computers in movies make so much noise? It's all beeps and boops evertime someone opens a webpage. If that were my computer I'd turn off the speakers.

Hear! And all babies babble all the time, and all birds and dogs are constantly yapping, and all deserts are littered with hawks screeching.
 
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