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2007-08-23 03:48:00 PM
Notalking_justhead

I mean, since we understand there are other beliefs, and that people have the freedom to express them, we don't have much to get steamed about.

Most of us Atheists are right there with you. We tend to believe that there are things in life that people use to make themselves better people. In many cases that's religion. We're fine with it as long as it's not being slammed down our throats, or we're being taxed for it, or people aren't calling us immoral as they believe themselves to have morals automatically manifest because of their beliefs, etc.
 
2007-08-23 03:48:44 PM
I'm a girl and therefore have no tech skills of measurable worth but do a search on jesus farking christ. I love that pic.

Does anyone have a picture of said blasphemy?
 
2007-08-23 03:48:50 PM
if you want a very lose description of the way science describes the beginning, just read the first few verses of Genesis. It's basically in the right order.>

No scientific description of the beginning starts with God speaking magic words. Plus Genesis only talks about the creation of the Earth. And there is all that weird outer space water stuff.

It only matches scientific theory if you decide to really reach and twist word definitions and interpret as metaphor things that were not metaphorical to the original writers of the Bible.
 
2007-08-23 03:52:26 PM
Bresin: Most of us Atheists are right there with you. We tend to believe that there are things in life that people use to make themselves better people. In many cases that's religion. We're fine with it as long as it's not being slammed down our throats, or we're being taxed for it, or people aren't calling us immoral as they believe themselves to have morals automatically manifest because of their beliefs, etc.

And all that's well and good, and I don't have any problem with that, it's when people post stupid hate-filled stuff like this:
"Both are fictional beings, both are worshiped by a bunch of folks who just don't know any better, and both are used to promote an unhealthy lifestyle." That I actually get pissed off.
 
2007-08-23 03:52:32 PM
Huh, I guess the Marlboro model must have really nailed him.
 
2007-08-23 03:54:13 PM
fenrael23: Huh, I guess the Marlboro model must have really nailed him.

Ba-dum-dump ching! (attempt at a phonetic rim shot)
 
2007-08-23 03:54:55 PM
Notalking_justhead: Uh dude... Jesus was real, there's proof. Your troll-fu is weak, young grasshopper.

Proof? More like speculation.
 
2007-08-23 03:56:00 PM
"Can't we silence these Christian athletes who thank Jesus whenever they win and never mention his name when they lose?"

There's a little thing called Freedom of Speech in this country, you're just going to have to put up with it. I'm sure others have put up with you, what comes around goes around.
 
2007-08-23 03:57:34 PM
darth_nick23: jesus is in flavor country now.

-this was funny, +2

Peridot: Vanetia: Spectrum:

Jesus saves!
Passes to Moses! MOSES SCORES!

If you prounce Jesus the spanish way... you would have said...

GGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll!


Peridot: According to Christian athletes, Jesus is undefeated.


- These made me LOL +2.5, and extra +1 for multiple good posts.

but Spectrum, you win teh internets! Your jesus comedy is made of the best flavors.
 
2007-08-23 03:58:16 PM
Notalking_justhead

I'd be pissed too. It's no different than the things that piss us off, and whoever said that are either a) a dick wad b) ticked off by something personal or c) trying to have fun at the expense of others.

/I must admit. When I get tail-gated, then flipped off by a guy with a fish emblem on his car, just because the one on my car has legs and is holding a wrench, my anger brings me to spout some pretty harsh criticism.
//That's just me
 
2007-08-23 04:00:46 PM
If I weren't stuck at work, and had any PS skills, I'd do a Jesus/Judas Brokeback Mountain poster.
 
2007-08-23 04:02:21 PM
Kurmudgeon: "Can't we silence these Christian athletes who thank Jesus whenever they win and never mention his name when they lose?"

There's a little thing called Freedom of Speech in this country, you're just going to have to put up with it. I'm sure others have put up with you, what comes around goes around.


Umm.. lighten up there, Kurm. The poster was just ripping a George Carlin rant is all. No harm, no foul.
 
2007-08-23 04:03:07 PM
Clandestine digital operative: Do christians actually believe this shiat? If they do sign me up.

HOLY CRAP! best. link. EVAR.
 
2007-08-23 04:06:08 PM
img254.imageshack.us
 
2007-08-23 04:06:50 PM
I love that the newspaper said that the graphic artist was let go because "he didn't see the cigarette" in the Jesus image when he was illegally downloaded a copyrighted photo to illegally put on the front page of the newspaper.
 
2007-08-23 04:07:46 PM
i8.photobucket.com
 
2007-08-23 04:08:25 PM
You know.. I complain about how people misjudge and rip on all Christians. But this thread has been a notable exception with people mostly being reasonable, and friendly.

The problem is, now I'm bored...
 
2007-08-23 04:11:14 PM
Sassy Jesus says:
img169.imageshack.us
"Oh no you didn't!"
 
2007-08-23 04:12:19 PM
"All I said was that cigarete was good enough for Jehova."
 
2007-08-23 04:13:44 PM
czarangelus Quote 2007-08-23 03:00:12 PM
Thisbymaster: Last time I checked, religious people are actually healthier, happier and live longer (in the US) then everyone else.

And they also firebomb 250% more women's health clinics!

Notalking_justhead: I don't understand the hate for religion, really. Can some one care to explain why believing in a God is tantamount to you having the I.Q. of a rock in some people's eyes?

I believe in God.
I don't believe some Jewish carpenter walked on water. One maybe stretches credibility a little, depending on your metaphysical picture of the cosmos. The other is just patently crazy.


hey czar, it was the rocks just under the water he was walking on.
 
2007-08-23 04:14:20 PM
Notalking_justhead: czarangelus: Proof? Why yes, there was a crazy member of the Jewish Zealot sect named Yeshua. Just like there's a guy in my neighborhood named Jose who sells tortillas.

Saborlas: Both are fictional beings, both are worshiped by a bunch of folks who just don't know any better, and both are used to promote an unhealthy lifestyle.

I don't understand the hate for religion, really. Can some one care to explain why believing in a God is tantamount to you having the I.Q. of a rock in some people's eyes?


Bacause the religious retards want to ban my books, movies, and games outlaw my life style and roll back science 1500 years.
 
2007-08-23 04:15:01 PM
plutonium238: Sassy Jesus says:

"Oh no you didn't!"


I LOL'd. That is exactly the pose. Hilarious!
 
2007-08-23 04:15:58 PM
Notalking_justhead
I don't blame the hate on atheists. I blame it on people within my own religion. The hate comes from ignorance of the fact that there are plenty of Christians out there who don't blast on about God 24/7 carrying a Bible around all the time. I think it is because the non-insane Christians are just quiet. I mean, since we understand there are other beliefs, and that people have the freedom to express them, we don't have much to get steamed about.

Indeed, well I must tell you there are people (though few in number) of all religions and ideologies who are quiet and peaceful. They do not spout their beliefs and they do not offer information on it unless asked to do so. I hang out with these people, they are my friends.

These people tend to have an understanding that faith is a deeply personal matter which is why we all seem to disagree on it so much.
 
2007-08-23 04:17:49 PM
useless without the image, but you guys came up with some good alternates
 
2007-08-23 04:20:43 PM
She constantly makes fun of wiccans, witches, and druids, saying how silly they are for belieiving in talking trees. Yet she doesnt see the irony in it.

Who the fark believes in talking trees? For Odin's sake, we just think God has many aspects.

I personally believe in UFO's.
So do I, but only in the strictest possible sense.
That is, I believe there are objects that fly around and are not properly identified. But alien spacecraft...No.
 
2007-08-23 04:21:05 PM
Galen_Rasputin: Because the religious retards want to ban my books, movies, and games outlaw my life style and roll back science 1500 years.

Yep. That about sums it up for me too.

I do understand that many many religious (of all faiths) people are great, and open-minded... but the agendas (ID idiots, prayer in schools, the banning of books that could be mildly offensive to some, and on and on) of the loud-mouthed moron religious are the ones being pushed in our government.

This must be fought.
 
2007-08-23 04:22:24 PM
plutonium238: Sassy Jesus says:

"Oh no you didn't!"


Hahahaha +1 for the gheyness.
 
2007-08-23 04:23:02 PM
lukelightning: Maaaaybe. But really Jesus looks more like a loony preaching apocalyptic doom and doing weird stuff like cursing fig trees for not having figs (during the season when they don't bear figs, even!). He himself said he didn't come to bring peace, but the sword. A phrase which Christians spin into some metaphor but given the fact that he believed the end of the world would come within his lifetime it sounds more like violent armed revolution to me.

I'm not a Christian (at least not by faith), but I have been reading quite a bit lately about the scholarly research into the roots of Christian thought and the evolution of the New Testament.

Most of the liberal (i.e., non-dogmatic Christian) scholars don't think Jesus was an apocalyptic. Most of that is thought to have been added later, as the Church developed in Syria, Asia Minor, Greece, etc. Paul had far more to do with the development of Christian theology than Jesus.

Jesus himself, it seems, is thought to have been preaching a message of achieving the Kingdom of God by living it day to day. Take care of yourself spiritually and trust God to provide the rest. Don't be obsessed with fairness and the behavior of others. Interesting stuff. To me, anyway.
 
2007-08-23 04:25:15 PM
Hey, don't F with the Jesus.

www.miserablelie.com
 
2007-08-23 04:31:29 PM
Franklin Delanor Bluth: But this is ok

is that shiat for real?
 
2007-08-23 04:33:30 PM
aycu31.webshots.com

/not enough time to add smoke or an extra fag for the lamb
 
2007-08-23 04:33:43 PM
Your relationship with your God(s) should be a personal one. I know my religious beliefs are personal and I refuse to discuss them.

What I see happening is Person A brings up religion. Person B professes his/her views in a way that conveys superior knowledge/moral values. Person A then begins mocking person B for said line of BS.

If you don't want to get teased for your belief system, keep it to your self. Problem solved.

/next?
 
2007-08-23 04:35:19 PM
theorellior: Here's the nice Jesus pics (new window) I was talking about. Enjoy!

cliche, i know, but WTF
 
2007-08-23 04:37:37 PM
Clandestine digital operative

That would be a no, no for me.

I believe in Heaven and that I will one day walk with Jesus, but what they are talking about is closer to Scientology.


Was that a cult site?
 
2007-08-23 04:40:13 PM
FarkingBastige: If you don't want to get teased for your belief system, keep it to your self. Problem solved.

Religion can be a great discussion topic; there are tons of interesting points to debate and learn about... but unfortunately some people cannot talk about it without getting angry that someone else feels differently, and the fear of those people, or the fear that other people may have very valid points that don't agree with their own personal feelings causes others refuse to talk about it at all.

Personally, I think the level-headed discussion of ANY topic is a wonderful thing.
 
2007-08-23 04:43:31 PM
Scuba_Steve: cliche, i know, but WTF

Yes, indeedy.
 
2007-08-23 04:49:04 PM
Was Jesus White? I thought he looked like an ethnic Jew.
 
2007-08-23 04:50:59 PM
A friend made this for me for Christmas one year:

farm2.static.flickr.com

It's a nightlight:

farm2.static.flickr.com

It came with a very detailed instruction sheet which he'd made and photocopied like 10 generations deep, and it looked very authentic. Fooled me for a few minutes.
 
2007-08-23 04:51:31 PM
The Ravaging Ungulate: Was Jesus White? I thought he looked like an ethnic Jew.

Considering the area he supposedly came from, he was probably very dark.
 
2007-08-23 04:54:19 PM
This is all about the First Amendment. Let's not follow the gov't down the path of censorship. After all, censorship is becoming America's favorite past-time. The US gov't (and their corporate friends), already detain protesters, ban books like "America Deceived" from Amazon and Wikipedia, shut down Imus and fire 21-year tenured, BYU physics professor Steven Jones because he proved explosives, thermite in particular, took down the WTC buildings. Free Speech forever (especially for smoking Jesus).
Last link (before Google Books caves to pressure and drops the title):
America Deceived (Book)
 
2007-08-23 04:58:55 PM
Notalking_justhead:

Uh dude... Jesus was real, there's proof.

cite it.
 
2007-08-23 04:59:41 PM
FeBolas: FarkingBastige: If you don't want to get teased for your belief system, keep it to your self. Problem solved.

Religion can be a great discussion topic; there are tons of interesting points to debate and learn about... but unfortunately some people cannot talk about it without getting angry that someone else feels differently, and the fear of those people, or the fear that other people may have very valid points that don't agree with their own personal feelings causes others refuse to talk about it at all.

Personally, I think the level-headed discussion of ANY topic is a wonderful thing.


Amoung friends, perhpas. Otherwise, I disagree.
It is the same as men pretending the opinion they have on abortion actually matters. I both cases, I will point and laff.
 
2007-08-23 04:59:56 PM
czarangelus: SoulSaver: That is how people look at religious believers. They mean well, but arent using common sense.

What are the foundations of consciousness?

A metaphysical theory of the universe being composed of only matter and energy is still a metaphysical theory.


Heya Czar - nice post, I always wanted to point this out to the religion haters.

People can't grasp that their view of the universe through their own consciousness is always going to be subjective, due to the fact that they can never supplant themselves into another consciousness in order to see the universe from a different angle, thus creating objectivity.

It falls that although we can create testable theories via science which are generally provable (to an extent) they are never provable outside of our own conscious view of the "external" world.

Furthermore, PLENTY of people have stood by science throughout time and believed that they know everything there was to know about the world. There were probably very scholarly scientists holding very astute arguments for the fact that the world is flat, scoffing at Christians and their beliefs that God was holding it up.

My analogy is a bit muddled, but the point is - every generation of scientists has taken the information they can gather about this world and believed they were generally right about it.

And they were all proven wrong.
 
2007-08-23 05:02:03 PM
FarkingBastige: It is the same as men pretending the opinion they have on abortion actually matters. I both cases, I will point and laff.

So... you can only form opinions about situations you could experience?

Interesting.
 
2007-08-23 05:06:35 PM
FeBolas: FarkingBastige: It is the same as men pretending the opinion they have on abortion actually matters. I both cases, I will point and laff.

So... you can only form opinions about situations you could experience?

Interesting.


Too general of a statement.
I am able to form an opinion on any subject at all. I assume you are able to as well.
I believe religion is too personal of a matter to discuss with anyone but close friends and I believe men who try to argue an opinion on abortion are idiots. It would be similar to women weighing in on the cut/no cut issue.
One womb=one vote.
 
2007-08-23 05:08:13 PM
FeBolas: FarkingBastige: It is the same as men pretending the opinion they have on abortion actually matters. I both cases, I will point and laff.

So... you can only form opinions about situations you could experience?

Interesting.


Men can never experience pregnancy therefore shouldn't have much say in it's effects or lack thereof. I wouldn't dream of telling you how to properly scratch your balls or whatever it is you men do for fun:)
 
2007-08-23 05:11:05 PM
tralfaz-archives.com
 
2007-08-23 05:11:18 PM
AllShelleyAllTheTime: FeBolas: FarkingBastige: It is the same as men pretending the opinion they have on abortion actually matters. I both cases, I will point and laff.

So... you can only form opinions about situations you could experience?

Interesting.

Men can never experience pregnancy therefore shouldn't have much say in it's effects or lack thereof. I wouldn't dream of telling you how to properly scratch your balls or whatever it is you men do for fun:)



You've never been black so you can't stand up for civil rights?
 
2007-08-23 05:11:24 PM
FarkingBastige: It would be similar to women weighing in on the cut/no cut issue.

Assuming you're talking about circumcision, I'm sure women have no opinions on whether or not their lovers are cut or uncut. And mothers probably have no opinions on whether or not their son should be circumcised. Those silly women!

And I'm at a loss as to how you can think no man can form an intelligent opinion on abortion. Seriously, not being able to experience the situation means I can't intelligently think about it? WTF?
 
2007-08-23 05:11:41 PM
AllShelleyAllTheTime: FeBolas: FarkingBastige: It is the same as men pretending the opinion they have on abortion actually matters. I both cases, I will point and laff.

So... you can only form opinions about situations you could experience?

Interesting.

Men can never experience pregnancy therefore shouldn't have much say in it's effects or lack thereof. I wouldn't dream of telling you how to properly scratch your balls or whatever it is you men do for fun:)



Exactly
 
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