And an old Koran is all he can afford
When he gets up under the lights to play his thing

Can't fault the guy.

hudef: Can't fault the guy.

win

Thats one crappy present. Wife would have killed him.

Couldn't he just steal one out of a hotel room?

It's good to be the King Sultan!

Maybe he was having buyer's remorse?

Sultans latest wife:


Hmmm. Worth a bukkake party or two, I guess.

It was a first printing of "Koran for Dummies". But then the Sultan realized that this title was redundant.

Boy, I don't know exactly how much is involved, but let me be the first to say:

"I hereby decree that I am infallible."

Sweet ass... can I like, kill people now?

Does the Sultan actually have the book in his possession? Doesn't seem like it from reading the article.

want to sell it?
forge this symbol in it

No serious religion would declare that any one human was infallible, that is, earthly incapable of being wrong about anything relating to God's Divine Will... oh, wait....

WTF They still have it to sell!!
I thought this sultan had the goods and failed to pay
If its worth so much it should be easy to sell it to the next highest bidder

grrr filter edited it out

forge the Rambaldi symbol in it

Dynascape: Pfft. Its been done.

Shouldn't gif read "Sand......."?

So he's got that going for him... which is nice.

i'd love to see him and the pope in a game of trivial persuit

/i'm sorry but the answer is "the moops"

elpepe55: No serious religion would declare that any one human was infallible, that is, earthly incapable of being wrong about anything relating to God's Divine Will... oh, wait....

The funniest thing about Papal Infalibility is that it has only been recognized by the Catholic Church for the past 130 years or so. Attending a Catholic High School it was pretty funny to see the amount of Catholics who didn't realize how recent a lot of thing were.

It kinda tossed their whole "we're the oldest and we're right" arguments out of the window when you pointed out that the Catholic Church has had as many major shifts in position in the past 100-150 years (with Vatican 1, Vatican 2, and different pope's opinions) as any other church. The only difference is you don't have 'Reformed Catholic' and 'Southern Reformed Catholic' and 'United Evangelical Catholic' etc.

Only Allah is in fallible! Blow him up and then behead him!

*ululates for effect*

This is retarded. As I was reading the article, I expected to hear that the Koran had been delivered to the Sultan, and he was refusing to pay up. Instead, the Aussie ex convicts have it in a safe deposit box somewhere while they drink fosters and shag crocodiles. I have no idea why they are spending so much time and money trying to force the Sultan of Brunei to pay up, when that guy never does a goddamn thing he doesnt want to. Either they are completely retarded, or the Sultan agreed to pay an above market price for that little Al Quaeda handbook. Otherwise, they should cut their losses and auction it off at Christies or Southeb ys next time they have an asian or middle eastern themed auctio event.

What a coincidence, I am a Malaysian in Dayton

Relgion of peace...STRIKES again!

12.fl.oz.: Couldn't he just steal one out of a hotel room?

I almost sprayed coffee at my monitor.

/Wonders how many people really do it, for real.

vertigo32: It kinda tossed their whole "we're the oldest and we're right" arguments out of the window when you pointed out that the Catholic Church has had as many major shifts in position in the past 100-150 years (with Vatican 1, Vatican 2, and different pope's opinions) as any other church. The only difference is you don't have 'Reformed Catholic' and 'Southern Reformed Catholic' and 'United Evangelical Catholic' etc.

So you don't think that Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, and the other Catholic sects count? Sure most of them have been around awhile, but Luther did his 95 Theses quite some time ago (pop-o-matic).

I bet he really downloaded the thing off the intarwebs, and just doesn't want to seem like a cheap bastard.

My friend John was from Brunei. Lee Jong-Won. Called himself John Wayne for a while. Wore a cowboy hat and everything. His parents were the South Korean diplomats to Brunei, and he hated everything about that country. He used to get hammered (he was alcoholic, as Brunei has no-liquor laws, and he was going to school in wisconsin, land of beer) and tell stories about how the only interesting thing to do was go bear hunting with spears. We got him high for the first time (he's no longer alcoholic, he's now a stoner) and he said - in a distinct british-prep-school-meets-korean accent:

"Did you know. In Brunei, if you are caught smoking marijuana, they will cane you in the ass with a metal rod until they can see the muscle?"

A few weeks later, while working at the local chinese restaurant, he bit off a rednecks ear. I didn't believe him until he pulled out the police report.

Yeah, that dude was crazy. Oppressive Muslim states make people NUTS.

There's so many super rich arab sheiks around, maybe it's freaking time to move on...

Oh, and he would regularly get so drunk he passed out in the dorm hallway. And pissed in the dorm hallway. And pissed on the RA's door. Several times.

It's good to be the king.

Bush tried to declare himself infallible, but he pronounced it infappable.

It must be nice to have a small, oil-rich kingdom as your own personal feifdom.

These Australian guys set foot in Brunei to lodge a lawsuit, and they will end up on pikes for public display, is my best guess.

cretinbob: Hmm I wonder if I can try that at work....

I hope you have better luck than I did. All's I'm saying is that unless you're the only guy who knows how to get the whatchamajigger to do that one thing -- you know what I'm talking about, everyone has that one thing that only one person knows how to do -- then it's probably going to go poorly.

"Oooh, there's one for my To Do list! Must.. achieve.. dis.. fallibility..." - Dubya

/Cheney had his checked off long ago

strangeguitar: And an old Koran is all he can afford
When he gets up under the lights to play his thing

Win++

Why do the catholics need to tithe, btw? If the pope is infallbile, couldn't he just spit out the powerball and euromillions numbers every now and then, and that would be that?

mikaelhg: Why do the catholics need to tithe, btw? If the pope is infallbile, couldn't he just spit out the powerball and euromillions numbers every now and then, and that would be that?

Infallible means you are never wrong, not that you are clairvoyent.

Which is odd considering the number of things the Catholic church changes as they go from generation to generation. Weird, huh?

Quantumbunny: Infallible means you are never wrong, not that you are clairvoyent.

The funny thing about infallibility is that it concerns the absolute truth value of statements, while clairvoyance concerns the method of gathering data. Ipso facto, the pope wouldn't need to get any data on the powerball numbers of future, the mere fact that he picks some numbers and declares them from the throne should make those numbers come out.

Quantumbunny
mikaelhg: Why do the catholics need to tithe, btw? If the pope is infallbile, couldn't he just spit out the powerball and euromillions numbers every now and then, and that would be that?

Infallible means you are never wrong, not that you are clairvoyent.

Which is odd considering the number of things the Catholic church changes as they go from generation to generation. Weird, huh?

Yeah, but if he wrote down six (or however many) numbers and said these are going to be the lottery numbers this week, either he would get them right, or he is not infalliable surely? What would be the difference between stating 'If you use a condom you will go to hell' and 'Saturdays lottery numbers will be 6, 13, 24, 27, 32, 47' - why would the first be considered factual merely because the pope has said it, but the latter may be falsified on Saturday evening without making him falliable?

Quantumbunny: Infallible means you are never wrong, not that you are clairvoyent.

Which is odd considering the number of things the Catholic church changes as they go from generation to generation. Weird, huh?

Most of you seem to have quite a distorted view of Papal infallibility. Neither the Pope nor the Catholic church says that the Pope is never wrong. Papal infallibility has to be declared first by the Pope when making a decree based on beliefs of the church. Nearly everything a pope says is not covered by this doctrine. It's in fact only been used one time in its history, probably while most of you weren't even alive.

mikaelhg: The funny thing about infallibility is that it concerns the absolute truth value of statements, while clairvoyance concerns the method of gathering data. Ipso facto, the pope wouldn't need to get any data on the powerball numbers of future, the mere fact that he picks some numbers and declares them from the throne should make those numbers come out.

I don't think that's how it works. It isn't like he is omnipotent. His words do not create the future, otherwise why is there a non Catholic in the world? Infallible just relly means that nothing he says is wrong, not that anything he says will come to pass, though obviously carrying it past its logical extent, sure it could be thought of to mean that.

Also, technically, Papal Infallibility really only applies to matters of the faith, not everything in general. So the pope could be wrong about lottery numbers, since that isn't about faith or doctrine. Really it is a way of letting the Pope override or implement some changes into the doctrine that is contradicted by, or not in the bible. Sort of like pre-marital sex, no safe sex practices, no meat on Fridays*, declaring cursades, and that kind of junk. Things that are decidedly not in the bible, but are part of Catholic beliefs by Papal Decree.

*btw yes that one was let go in Vatican II.

xria: Yeah, but if he wrote down six (or however many) numbers and said these are going to be the lottery numbers this week, either he would get them right, or he is not infalliable surely? What would be the difference between stating 'If you use a condom you will go to hell' and 'Saturdays lottery numbers will be 6, 13, 24, 27, 32, 47' - why would the first be considered factual merely because the pope has said it, but the latter may be falsified on Saturday evening without making him falliable?

Infallibility does not imply an ability to see into the future. From the point of view of one who believes in such things, an infallible person stating "you will go to hell if you use a condom" is akin to saying "gravity pulls you toward the ground", or "God created the universe". It is assumed to be fact. Specific predictions about the future are different. No religion really claims to be able to do that, since it's so easily disprovable.

Dynascape: If I recall, Benedict a few weeks ago spouted off the old dogma about all Protestants going to hell.

IIRC he said the Catholic Church is the one true church. Catholics have believed that forever. It's not that Protestants are going to hell; they have the same basic outline for salvation. It's just that the Protestants are doing things wrong.

/Protestant

axd 2007-08-20 09:04:33 AM

"Did you know. In Brunei, if you are caught smoking marijuana, they will cane you in the ass with a metal rod until they can see the muscle?"

A few weeks later, while working at the local chinese restaurant, he bit off a rednecks ear. I didn't believe him until he pulled out the police report.

Yeah, that dude was crazy. Oppressive Muslim states make people NUTS.


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