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(Independent)   "Women prefer great degrees of masculinity for short-term partners, but for long-term relationships they prefer more feminine men"   (news.independent.co.uk) divider line 167
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2007-08-07 10:29:17 PM
dfenstrate, Huzzah! You are a gentleman and a scholar. Here, here. That's good advice for everyone. Much to the delight of all your lady-friends. i love you...
 
2007-08-07 10:29:21 PM
 
2007-08-07 10:30:27 PM
I heard about a couple of studies that those preferences actually fluctuate with the menstrual cycle; something about women preferring more masculine faces around ovulation, softer ones otherwise.
 
2007-08-07 10:30:27 PM
mikaloyd: the journal Personality and Individual Differences: Where all women are the same.

You are mistaken, Mikaloyd. Women do want money and power. But they also want barrel-chested studs on the side. The barrel-chested studs get them pregnant. Then the breadwinner supports her and the stud's offspring.

It used to piss me off thinking about it. Until I realized how freakin' hot it is.

Oh sweet Jebus it's hot.
 
2007-08-07 10:30:43 PM
I've had women just go nuts at the way I look. Guess it's my effeminate looking eyes or something. Was mistaken for a girl constantly while growing up (even in my 20s).

I've been effectively impotent from major depression all my life, so it never translated into getting laid though, sadly.
 
2007-08-07 10:33:00 PM
What 'bout lesbians trapped inside a man's body?...I know this 'cause women have said I lick pussy like a lesbian so I must be bulldyke trapped in a man's body!
 
2007-08-07 10:34:20 PM
tin_man

What would be cool is if every individual would figure out WTF it is they want, find it, and stick with it.

I think it would clear up a lot of this gender war shiat.


Oh please don't. If we started saying different people are attracted to different things then all of these gender and relationship writers would be out of a job. Then what would they do? Their only skill is making sweeping inaccurate statements about gender. They would have to flood our low-rent comedy clubs just to make a living.
 
2007-08-07 10:35:06 PM
The Voice of Doom: I heard about a couple of studies that those preferences actually fluctuate with the menstrual cycle; something about women preferring more masculine faces around ovulation, softer ones otherwise.

Yes, Voice of Doom. Women are also more likely to achieve orgasm with those masculine-faced men during ovulation. And, of course, achieving orgasm increases the probability of pregnancy resulting from a copulation...

hot hot hot.
 
2007-08-07 10:35:55 PM
"Women prefer great degrees of masculinity for short-term passionate, spontaneous sexual partners, but for long-term predominantly asexual,loveless relationships they prefer more feminine men"

Fixed it for you.
Tell me I'm wrong,ladies.
 
2007-08-07 10:38:10 PM
i.gleeson.us
 
2007-08-07 10:38:46 PM
Subby should've included "Suck it" in the headline...somehow...
 
2007-08-07 10:39:05 PM
feminine or masculine....either way you lose your freedom and individuality. Ladies, hear my words, utilize them {Men} for self gratification and leave before they wake. You DO NOT want to get stuck doing their crusty laundry, while they storm home angry at life everyday. Don't end up falling into the toilet because they left the F*@king seat up in the middle of the night..., IN RESOLUTE DEFIANCE OF YOU SPECIFICALLY

Run home fast! It's not like you can't find another one tomorrow night and the newer they are the nicer they are.
 
2007-08-07 10:39:16 PM
In other news, men prefer slutty women for short term partners, but for long term relationships they prefer a series of short term partnerships with slutty women.
 
2007-08-07 10:41:12 PM
evildick: sonofagunn: ... and men want hot, dumb, sluts for short-term partners, but don't want any women at all for long-term relationships.

You forgot easily manipulated and no gag reflex.


What about the flat head and handlebars for ears?
 
2007-08-07 10:41:20 PM
happygirl
I've learned to not get angry at life. It doesn't help anything.
I sort of "get used to it."

/high school teacher, 10 yrs
//sigh
 
2007-08-07 10:42:31 PM
Bartleby the Scrivener: DaCricket 2007-08-07 10:03:19 PM
Honey, that's because the sex IS better with the guys that know how to be bad boys. (They don't have to be bad boys all the time now, they just have to know how to be)

i swim IMMEDIATELY after lunch AND i run with scissors. If i'm feeling really naughty, i'll tease cats by eating tuna and breathing on them.


HAHAHAHAHAHA you've made my day. Much appreciation.
 
2007-08-07 10:45:05 PM
Unhip1: happygirl
I've learned to not get angry at life. It doesn't help anything.
I sort of "get used to it."

/high school teacher, 10 yrs
//sigh


I'm very sorry for you. You should sell everything and just go some place beautiful. No one does that though. Sadly :(
 
2007-08-07 10:45:36 PM
I'm border-line gay, so this must be the reason I've been dating the same cute girl for the last 3 years.
 
2007-08-07 10:47:46 PM
Status and money are the biggies. However, how important each is, and what defines them, depends on the woman. Power to one woman might be intelligence, whereas to another it could be a physical attribute. Granted, this assumes the guy isn't disgusting and has decent social skills.

A chick who is not concerned with those things to a great degree, one who standards are not so strict, will be happy in relationships with most people. However, you will be hard-pressed to find a woman who will like a man who lacks these things in regards to the woman's standards.

Think about the "average" standards for a woman in high school:

Money = Having enough to buy decent clothes and to go to movies on the weekends; having a car for juniors and seniors.

Status = High standing in some social clique at the school, whether it be band geeks, drama kids, or the football team. Attractiveness matters a lot on the high school scene, even for guys.

Guess which guys consistently got (high-quality) ass in high school? Yep, mostly juniors and seniors, who had a job and a car and were popular. Girls are much easier to impress, and dating is much simpler since the criteria isn't so rigorous.

Bump it up to college:

Money = Enough to buy liquor, and party on the weekends, with some nice items in the dorm/house; having a decent car - not an old clunker.

Status = High standing in some social clique; relevant academic or sports or career-related accomplishments, and being older are definitely a plus.

Guess who got the most ass then? Frat guys, athletes, college juniors and seniors, graduates and older guys who still hang around college crowds.

Post-college:

Money = More is better. Having a house or nice car is a major plus, as well as a good-paying career. Having nice items is a major bonus.

Status = Being in a position of power, political or otherwise, having high social standing in a group, with relevant accomplishments.

Once again, the pattern shows itself. The guys pulling in the most women are your celebrities, doctors, lawyers, politicians, businessmen, people who really dictate what goes on in society and who, through the years, have accumulated some money.

That's not to say that a guy without those things can't get any, there are a myriad of other factors, but there's a definite pattern in women when it comes to dating men, and it favors guys who have those things.
 
2007-08-07 10:48:10 PM
happygirl: Bartleby the Scrivener: DaCricket 2007-08-07 10:03:19 PM
Honey, that's because the sex IS better with the guys that know how to be bad boys. (They don't have to be bad boys all the time now, they just have to know how to be)

i swim IMMEDIATELY after lunch AND i run with scissors. If i'm feeling really naughty, i'll tease cats by eating tuna and breathing on them.

HAHAHAHAHAHA you've made my day. Much appreciation.


;)
 
2007-08-07 10:48:54 PM
happygirl
I liked the quote in your profile, I'll add it to the collection I post in my classroom. Let's see if Dr. King can confuse the logic of the "no snitch" rule...
/they all watched Boondocks
 
2007-08-07 10:52:14 PM
1. Be Not Desirous
2. Be Excellent in her Presence
3. Retreat
 
2007-08-07 10:52:37 PM
davidj411: In other news, 89.6 pct. of all statistics are made up.

So 10.4% are true?
 
2007-08-07 10:55:20 PM
Unhip1: happygirl
I liked the quote in your profile, I'll add it to the collection I post in my classroom. Let's see if Dr. King can confuse the logic of the "no snitch" rule...
/they all watched Boondocks


Well good! I love that quote. It's got a lot of meaning for me, pertaining to something I'm very passionate about.
 
2007-08-07 10:57:23 PM
www.animalfriendsrescue.org

www.aussiesaddle.com


//ya I'm married
//note to self: turn on safe search when googling "whipped"
 
2007-08-07 11:02:17 PM
The Voice of Doom: I heard about a couple of studies that those preferences actually fluctuate with the menstrual cycle; something about women preferring more masculine faces around ovulation, softer ones otherwise.

Don't be hiking in bear or big cat country while hiking during menstrual cycles.

/PSA
 
2007-08-07 11:03:07 PM
It's a mind game. They just want you to be confident, which means you're more likely to have a big dick.

"I love yah baby, but all I can think about is, kielbasa sausage your butt cheeks is warm."
 
2007-08-07 11:04:06 PM
I myself like manly men. Men with chest hair, square jaw, deep voice, strong forearms and a slight hint of a beer belly. Those are the keepers. I don't trust guys who get pedicures and are prettier than me.
 
2007-08-07 11:06:05 PM
So... wait. Let me see if I get this. Are you trying to tell me... "nice guys finish last?"

What a novel concept.
 
2007-08-07 11:08:39 PM
This study is completely wrong because it does not apply to me.
 
2007-08-07 11:09:02 PM
What women want is easy: they want what other women have.
 
2007-08-07 11:16:23 PM
captain_heroic44: mikaloyd: the journal Personality and Individual Differences: Where all women are the same.

You are mistaken, Mikaloyd. Women do want money and power. But they also want barrel-chested studs on the side. The barrel-chested studs get them pregnant. Then the breadwinner supports her and the stud's offspring.

It used to piss me off thinking about it. Until I realized how freakin' hot it is.

Oh sweet Jebus it's hot.



Hmm. Upon reflection, I do not find this to be "hot," at all. At all.
 
2007-08-07 11:30:17 PM
A friend of mine is very skilled at..ahem..propositioning young ladies and while he does it rather pathologically, something he told me struck me as rather interesting - he firmly believes that any guy can get any girl, regardless of any factor except personality. The reason why "bad guys" get the girls is not because they're "bad guys", its because "bad guys" display more confidence than "nice guys". Just make like you're the best thing since sliced bread (you don't even have to BE overconfident, just act!) and learn how to *LISTEN* and *TALK* and any girl can be yours. "Out of my league" is an illusion - there is no such thing. The funniest thing about this whole idea is that its something that every guy has complete control over, vs knowing about fashion, having money, etc. - the previously mentioned friend was from a poor family and was generally broke.

The dark side of this of course, is once you realize you can do this and you build your confidence up, should you try to sleep with any girl you can? Thats what my friend does - which is something I kinda take issue with. Sleeping around just seems so hollow to me - the kid, while skilled at picking girls up, isnt all that good at maintaining good relationships.
 
2007-08-07 11:30:40 PM
img.citypages.com

i'm talkin mega long term...

//RTFA
 
2007-08-07 11:33:34 PM
huszar!: The guys pulling in the most women are your celebrities, doctors, lawyers, politicians, businessmen, people who really dictate what goes on in society and who, through the years, have accumulated some money.

That's not to say that a guy without those things can't get any, there are a myriad of other factors, but there's a definite pattern in women when it comes to dating men, and it favors guys who have those things.


Holy crap. This reminds me so much of that "Feminine Priviledge" post that does the rounds here now and again.
 
2007-08-07 11:35:20 PM
Halfmast Trousers: Women want a man who can cry, but won't stay with one who does.

Aren't gross generalizations great? At my house, I'm the stoic one and my husband cries about "baby's first steps" and stuff like that. You really ought to get away from the soundbites and meet some real people.
 
2007-08-07 11:40:58 PM
Czarangelus approves of this study. Now if they also prefer broke, bitter underachievers...
 
2007-08-07 11:44:42 PM
Once you realize that you can't win with women it makes your life easier. I mean, you can win some battles here and there and try to improve, but you will always be missing some trait that she wants. If you are cool and nice and intelligent, than you won't be ripped enough...if you spend a lot of time in the gym and are very ripped, you won't have enough time for her...

You can't win. Just find someone that doesn't make you insane and kick back any enjoy life. If she leaves you, screw it...buy the guy a beer and find another girl. It doesn't really matter because American women make shiat wives anyway.
 
2007-08-07 11:54:37 PM
ElRonHubbardsBalls:
You can't win. Just find someone that doesn't make you insane and kick back any enjoy life. If she leaves you, screw it...buy the guy a beer and find another girl. It doesn't really matter because American women make shiat wives anyway.


You know, whenever one of these "what women want" studies comes out, and every male farker gets all irritable about it, I just sit back and think about my OWN finicky standards...

Tits not big enough, arse too big, voice too annoying, too high maintenance, doesn't like to do teh beejays, etc etc etc.

I think it's true that we are easier to superficially attract than women are, but that's just evolutionary biology speaking. When it comes to serious relationships, it's a clusterfark for all of us. No easy answers.
 
2007-08-08 12:00:56 AM
I dunno, perhaps there is something to all this. It seems to me that guys are simpler. We want someone who's attractive and fun in and out of the bedroom. (Yes, no gag reflex would be part of that fun in the bedroom bit.) We might want multiple partners, but all of that basic type and it really doesn't change from our first date to marriage and beyond. There's no analog I can see with men that is comparable this bad boy vs. nice guy dichotomy.
 
2007-08-08 12:05:55 AM
Wow, I didn't actually believe this many misogynists could be found at one website alone....

Pigeonholing much? Sorta like men are just big dumb lugs who fark anything that moves and can't think past their dicks? You might want to consider the reason you end up with shiatty relationships is that you can't get past the physical aspect of a woman and actually figure out who she is before you jump into something. Just because she's pretty doesn't mean she's worth the oxygen she's breathing, nor does it mean she's a good fark.

However, the same can be said of good-looking men as well.
 
2007-08-08 12:08:06 AM
I'm calling shannigans on this study. Because in one sense, chicks are just like guys. You might think that person is hot 'til they open their mouth. Then all bets are off. The difference is that men will still wanna do the horizontal shuffle, regardless. She just won't get a call back after the audition.

The fact of the matter is girls want a confident man. I don't know what it is, but the more you act like a jackass and make'em laugh, the more leg is going to get thrown your way. *shrug*
 
2007-08-08 12:33:29 AM
When women have standards for men. . it's BAD! How dare those evil whores have standards!!

When men have standards for women. . it's GOOD! I mean . seriously. . you expect me to fark some pig?!

/did I sum up half the thread nicely?
 
2007-08-08 12:35:04 AM
I'm disappointed to find that a search for 'pussy-whipped' on this page returned zero. Make that one.
 
2007-08-08 12:42:56 AM
Thats why I yell and smash things, scratch myself, act too cool for her, call the mailman a homo, then wear my girlfriend's lingerie and cry watching "Must Love Dogs".

Still not married, but dating forever. I think it's working.
 
2007-08-08 12:49:20 AM
stirfrybry: They're all whores anyway

QFT
 
2007-08-08 01:05:05 AM
Tigeriffic: /did I sum up half the thread nicely?

Not really. Men and women both have standards, and that's fine.

The catch is that you don't see men biatching about women who meet their standards.

You see chicks dating guys who are total assholes, who sit around and biatch about how their guys are total assholes.

You never see a dude biatching about how hot his chick is ;)
 
2007-08-08 01:16:04 AM
TotallyHeadless
stirfrybry: They're all whores anyway

QFT


If I'm a whore you guys are sluts!

/not a whore
//I would be mortified if a guy ended up having to support me financially
//Ladder theory is for wankers, but it is unfortunately accurate in it's description of a large potion of the populace
 
2007-08-08 01:17:59 AM
The Homer Tax: You never see a dude biatching about how hot his chick is ;)

Not necessarily about how hot his chick is... but I have heard guys biatch about what a whore his chick is, how sharp her knees are, etc... but they stay with them anyway. Someone explain this?

We're all the same... we just biatch about different things.
 
2007-08-08 01:19:03 AM
The Homer Tax: Tigeriffic: /did I sum up half the thread nicely?

Not really. Men and women both have standards, and that's fine.

The catch is that you don't see men biatching about women who meet their standards.

You see chicks dating guys who are total assholes, who sit around and biatch about how their guys are total assholes.

You never see a dude biatching about how hot his chick is ;)


No, but he definitely biatches when other guys check her out and make moves for her, even if they get turned down quickly and under no uncertain terms. The guy also biatches often when "his chick" is trying to get ready and she's "taking too long", or when she has some physical imperfection that he didn't notice before, etc. ad nauseum....

Don't kid yourself, y'all biatch as well, even when dating a "hot chick."
 
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