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(wnd.com)   Four firefighters sue after being forced to attend Gay Pride parade by their lesbian fire chief, receiving lewd gestures and comments about their hoses   (wnd.com ) divider line
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2007-08-07 03:21:13 AM  
That's a great way to treat firefighters in wildfire-prone San Diego. No excuse for this; outrage is official. And that chief gives lesbian sex a really bad name.
 
2007-08-07 03:26:56 AM  
That article is hilarious.
 
2007-08-07 03:27:24 AM  
manofsorrow1981: And that chief gives lesbian sex a really bad name.

Is that even possible?
 
2007-08-07 03:38:01 AM  
What the F*CK is it with people and sexuality? What is there to be offended by? I'm as hetero as the next guy (I think his name is Butch), and I don't give a shiat about somebody's sexual orientation.

On the other hand, gay parades are one hell of a lot of fun ;)
 
2007-08-07 03:42:40 AM  
If people were really exposing themselves to them then yeah, that's a bit out of line; but if they were riding in a truck at Mardi Gras and thousands of women were flashing their tits at them, I'd bet MONEY that these 'married family men' would be high-fiving each other and sharing polaroids back in the station. Only when it's gay does it suddenly become a horrific and unconsciable act.
 
2007-08-07 03:53:12 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: If people were really exposing themselves to them then yeah, that's a bit out of line; but if they were riding in a truck at Mardi Gras and thousands of women were flashing their tits at them, I'd bet MONEY that these 'married family men' would be high-fiving each other and sharing polaroids back in the station. Only when it's gay does it suddenly become a horrific and unconsciable act.

Um, yeah? Your point is???
 
2007-08-07 04:02:36 AM  
ComicBookGuy: Um, yeah? Your point is??

My point is there would be no lawsuit if a particularly unattractive woman flashed her breasts at these guys. They'd cringe a bit through a smile and say "no thanks." Because it's a dude it becomes "I f*cking hate you; moreover I'm suing my boss who is one of you people for making me be here."
 
2007-08-07 04:13:49 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: My point is there would be no lawsuit if a particularly unattractive woman flashed her breasts at these guys.

I had this super intelligent response to that but then I looked up and noticed the article is from WND so I decided I don't care
 
2007-08-07 04:22:30 AM  
manofsorrow1981: No excuse for this; outrage is official. And that chief gives lesbian sex a really bad name.

You could tell all that from that poor excuse for an article? Much better article here(p).

Including the part that says, Fire department spokesman Maurice Luque said the fire crew was chosen because its fire Station 5 on Ninth Avenue in Hillcrest is in the community where the parade took place. Luque said another crew had volunteered, but bowed out for personal reasons, including a family death, the day before.
 
2007-08-07 04:40:59 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: ComicBookGuy: Um, yeah? Your point is??

My point is there would be no lawsuit if a particularly unattractive woman flashed her breasts at these guys. They'd cringe a bit through a smile and say "no thanks." Because it's a dude it becomes "I f*cking hate you; moreover I'm suing my boss who is one of you people for making me be here."


Well, according to Girls Gone Wild, all women at Mardis Gras are hot and would gladly have sex w/your if they could come out of the T.V. Even if you're 90 and weigh 3000 pounds.
 
2007-08-07 05:52:53 AM  
violating their conscience

WTF?


Don't the firefighters participate in all sorts of parades?
 
2007-08-07 06:39:04 AM  

I don't know why those firemen are complaining: from this picture, all the other groups required to attend had no problem:


www.daytondailynews.com

 
2007-08-07 06:46:19 AM  
You're a straight firefighter with no interest in being eyecandy for the largest gay gathering in the city, and even less in being flashed and molested, and your boss says participation in the parade is mandatory.

The answer is NO.
You say NO. And you mean it. And then you don't go, because it's not part of your job and it makes you uncomfortable.

If your ball-busting lesbian boss has a problem with that then suggest she and her paretner put on a burlesque show for the lads, seeing as being the object of attention for a hoard or ravening males is obviously no big deal, right?


From TFA: "But Thompson maintained the firefighters' ordeal was "another example of how radical homosexual activists in positions of authority force their agenda on unwilling citizens.""

First example I've ever seen as compared to endless examples of straight folk discriminating and abusing gay folk. But this one's pretty good I guess.
 
2007-08-07 06:47:24 AM  
I wonder what the outcome of this case would be if the parade was organized by some Christian group and the people forced to go to it were a bunch of gay/lesbians along with the fire chief.
 
2007-08-07 06:47:56 AM  
Oh wait, I forgot, saying no to your boss is a capital offence in corporate USia.
 
2007-08-07 06:53:48 AM  
log_jammin: Is that even possible?

Rosie, dude. Rosie Odonnell. Imagine her having lesbian sex.
 
2007-08-07 06:58:14 AM  
It's all part of teh gey adgenda.
 
2007-08-07 07:00:08 AM  
To put this in perspective, If a Military General ORDERED his 3 female admin workers to attend a Tailhook convention with him, and they thereafter were very upset about what they had to witness there...

Would you be siding with the General or the female troops?

Being placed in a situation that makes you uncomfortable (sexually) is wrong. Be it straight, gay, female or male, being ORDERED against your wishes into such a situation is wrong.

Should they get to sue the city? No.

Should the superior who abused her position be punished? Yes.
 
2007-08-07 07:01:04 AM  
San Diego Fire Chief Tracy Jarman is an open lesbian

From the picture, I would have guessed open transsexual, but very well.
 
2007-08-07 07:02:51 AM  
GreatBunzinni: I wonder what the outcome of this case would be if the parade was organized by some Christian group and the people forced to go to it were a bunch of gay/lesbians along with the fire chief.

Well, there'd be a lot more hate and venom being spewed in this thread. I've noticed a lot of people here are "open minded" and "tolerant of others" until someone mentions religion. Then their true colors are shown....no one is more intolerant than the people screaming the loudest for tolerance.
 
2007-08-07 07:03:12 AM  
Snarfle: Rosie, dude. Rosie Odonnell. Imagine her having lesbian sex.

Oh for God's sake, I haven't even had breakfast yet. Now I won't be able to hold down my Wheaties.
 
2007-08-07 07:03:42 AM  
The point is, (and I'd really like to see the arguments used in the suit) that they were apparently ordered to attend this event. They were given no choice about whether to attend or not it was: "you will go period.".
Admittedly this is from WND so most likely the whole thing is blown out of proportion.
But, if one is ordered to go to and participate in an event and one is sexually harrased en-masse there, then it is the the responsibility of the person who ordered you to go.
Thus I'd say the suit has merit and I hope that if this situation is as described, that the biatch who ordered them to go is fired at the very least.
I'd like to see how a group of homosexual city/county employees would react if ordered to attend and participate in a Hetro-pride event.
The ACLU would sue the city into bankrupcy.
But, wait, there is no such thing as a hetro-pride event... Interesting thing that.

/I don't care what two or more consenting adults do to/with each other in private. It's their business.
 
2007-08-07 07:04:40 AM  
Snarfle: Rosie, dude. Rosie Odonnell. Imagine her having lesbian sex.

*kicks at a can*

ahh...man....
 
2007-08-07 07:06:23 AM  
Are you trying to tell me out of the SDFD they could not find 4-5 gay, or gay-friendly, employees to participate in this PR activity?

It's one thing to use the law to prevent Matthew Shephard from being the norm, or to ensure beating up a gay doesn't become activity #1 for your average drunken jerk; it's another to force people to participate in what is essentially a meat market.

I wonder if that station had done something to annoy the chief -- instant revenge!
 
2007-08-07 07:12:19 AM  
GreatBunzinni: I wonder what the outcome of this case would be if the parade was organized by some Christian group and the people forced to go to it were a bunch of gay/lesbians along with the fire chief.

Ironically, one of the stressors that the firemen added to their lists of aggreivances that day was being shouted at by homophobic protestors after the parade as well.

In statements filed with the state, the men said that along the parade route, they were subjected to offensive and lewd comments such as, "You can put out my fire," and saw men blowing kisses at them. Then, they said, they had to endure protesters who yelled at them that homosexuality was a sin. Some comments were too graphic to print.

So they are riding in the truck, waving out the window for a while, see some gay sh*t, get all embarrased, then get shouted at by people who hate the gay people because they thought the fireman were supporting homosexuals by being in the parade.

Think about THAT.

These guys had a really sh*tty day. I almost imagine it as these poor guys at the windows of the truck were constantly shouting "Dude! I am so not down with this!" just in case they were recognized.
 
2007-08-07 07:13:11 AM  
I was hoping for a hot lesbian fire chief pic. Should've known.
 
2007-08-07 07:13:57 AM  
I dunno. On the one hand, it's good for the firefighters to participate in community events, even if they don't want to, for public relations. And the Chief has the right to try and manage those public relations.

On the other hand, the pride parade is at least a little different than a labor day parade, say, and there was a reasonable certainty they were gonna get a bunch of cat calls.

Hmm... The Chief has the right to make them go, but if she was a good boss, and they voiced serious opposition to it, she probably should've let it slide.

I also suspect there was some irritation at being called in at the last minute after the other department pulled out. (no pun intended.)

Decision: Firefighters, but not by a lot.
 
2007-08-07 07:15:28 AM  
Oh, WND.
Nevermind.
There's no way of telling what really happened.
 
2007-08-07 07:17:30 AM  
WND left out that last bit about the protesters, by the way.

That was from the article to which Philbb linked.
 
2007-08-07 07:17:53 AM  
Oooh, found the Statement (Pops as a .pdf)
 
2007-08-07 07:18:22 AM  
PacManDreaming I've noticed a lot of people here are "open minded" and "tolerant of others" until someone mentions religion. Then their true colors are shown....no one is more intolerant than the people screaming the loudest for tolerance."

Given religion is one of the world's largestproducers and exporters of arbitrary and baseless intolerance, that makes perfect sense to me.

I tolerate everything but intolerance and abuse of others. That is not to be tolerated.
 
2007-08-07 07:18:57 AM  
Balls, screwed up tags.
 
2007-08-07 07:21:50 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: If people were really exposing themselves to them then yeah, that's a bit out of line; but if they were riding in a truck at Mardi Gras and thousands of women were flashing their tits at them, I'd bet MONEY that these 'married family men' would be high-fiving each other and sharing polaroids back in the station. Only when it's gay does it suddenly become a horrific and unconsciable act.

When was the last city sponsored heterosexual pride month/parade where you live?

/didn't think so
 
2007-08-07 07:22:28 AM  
In what way does forced participation promote "gay pride"?
 
2007-08-07 07:26:09 AM  
Lerxst2k: When was the last city sponsored heterosexual pride month/parade where you live?

/didn't think so


Easter.
 
2007-08-07 07:26:18 AM  
Glass parking lot?
 
2007-08-07 07:28:00 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: If people were really exposing themselves to them then yeah, that's a bit out of line; but if they were riding in a truck at Mardi Gras and thousands of women were flashing their tits at them, I'd bet MONEY that these 'married family men' would be high-fiving each other and sharing polaroids back in the station. Only when it's gay does it suddenly become a horrific and unconsciable act.

That's because there's a difference between males and females regardless of what you've been told.

And regarding "exposure" like much of the Mardi Gras, the Gay Pride parade here in Atlanta is often too "blue" to be televised.
 
2007-08-07 07:30:27 AM  
Lerxst2k: When was the last city sponsored heterosexual pride month/parade where you live?

Also: has it ever been necessary for heterosexuals to have a celebratory parade of any kind to bolster their community so for just one day they can forget the world hates them?

/didn't think so
 
2007-08-07 07:33:11 AM  
cabal08: That's because there's a difference between males and females regardless of what you've been told

Come on, man. You're advocating a double standard. We're better than that.

And regarding "exposure" like much of the Mardi Gras, the Gay Pride parade here in Atlanta is often too "blue" to be televised

Dude, I've been to Mardi Gras and I've been to gay pride parades and they're all the same sh*t.

It's just People humping People.
 
2007-08-07 07:38:18 AM  
log_jammin: manofsorrow1981: And that chief gives lesbian sex a really bad name.

Is that even possible?



Did you see the fire chief? It's a MAN baby!!!
 
2007-08-07 07:39:00 AM  
CtrlAltDelete It's just People humping People

Please, he's no different from the rest of you organisms; shooting DNA at each other to make babies. I find it offensive!
 
2007-08-07 07:45:00 AM  
Why does it matter what these men would do if it were Mardi Gras? That has absolutely no bearing on this case. This woman should be sued out of existence if their case can be proved.
 
2007-08-07 07:46:19 AM  
Memoryalpha

But, wait, there is no such thing as a hetro-pride event... Interesting thing that.

White Peoples Music Awards
Interesting that too.
 
2007-08-07 07:48:14 AM  
Memoryalpha
But, wait, there is no such thing as a hetro-pride event...
White Peoples Music Awards.


Country Music Awards (new window)?
 
2007-08-07 07:50:37 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: cabal08: That's because there's a difference between males and females regardless of what you've been told

It's just People humping People.


Not everyone is like you where watching lots of guys humping each other is someplace they want to be. I think you may have got teh ghey. I don't get it, if they want us to respect them why do they then shove it down our throats like it was something important. The only time I will start respecting the gays is when they stop all parades, and conventions. I thought the idea of "What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom" didn't count if you started doing it in the streets?
 
2007-08-07 07:51:30 AM  
sentient_being: This woman should be sued out of existence if their case can be proved.

Should she really? What do you think the correct punishment would be for such a thing; for exposing them to a group of horrible horrible people like that?

Should she lose her job permanently? Should she be fined? How much should she be fined? Is $100,000 enough? What do you imagine it will cost for these men to overcome the absolute trauma and horror they experienced on that day?
 
2007-08-07 07:52:45 AM  
CtrlAltDelete
If people were really exposing themselves to them then yeah, that's a bit out of line; but if they were riding in a truck at Mardi Gras and thousands of women were flashing their tits at them, I'd bet MONEY that these 'married family men' would be high-fiving each other and sharing polaroids back in the station. Only when it's gay does it suddenly become a horrific and unconsciable act.

That's assuming these guys would choose to participate in the Mardi Gras parade. If they chose to participate in the Gay Pride parade, this article would not exist because anything offensive would have been met with "I won't be doing this next year". Butch bullied these guys into participation. That = lawsuit. I think the wives should attach to the suit for loss of companionship compensation as well.
 
2007-08-07 07:52:49 AM  
Thisbymaster: I don't get it, if they want us to respect them why do they then shove it down our throats like it was something important. The only time I will start respecting the gays is when they stop all parades, and conventions.

You don't have to go to the parade.
 
2007-08-07 07:56:09 AM  
The_Religious_Left: Memoryalpha
But, wait, there is no such thing as a hetro-pride event...
White Peoples Music Awards.

Country Music Awards (new window)?


Right after I hit the submit button it crossed my mind that your exact response is what I would get. :-)

Thank You
 
2007-08-07 07:57:31 AM  
Thisbymaster:
Not everyone is like you where watching lots of guys humping each other is someplace they want to be. I think you may have got teh ghey. I don't get it, if they want us to respect them why do they then shove it down our throats like it was something important. The only time I will start respecting the gays is when they stop all parades, and conventions. I thought the idea of "What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom" didn't count if you started doing it in the streets?


Translation: "It's all right as long as they hide who they are and are ashamed of it." Right, I've got it now. Thanks.
 
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