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(ESPN)   Robby Gordon crosses finish line first but is disqualified for being his usual asshat self in Busch series race   (sports.espn.go.com) divider line 34
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2007-08-05 06:28:38 AM  
Welcome, Canadia.
 
2007-08-05 06:49:34 AM  
and how about Canadian drivers who have never taken part in a NASCAR or Busch race coming in 2nd and 4th?

Especially Carpentier who had never been in a Busch car until a week ago. not particularily into racing but I thought that was rather cool.
 
2007-08-05 07:07:52 AM  
Yeah, a road course driver is a road course driver though.
 
2007-08-05 07:17:28 AM  
Robby is insane.

But he DID get punted by Ambrose and screwed by NASCAR back to 12th after the yellow had come up. So I totally approve of him having a bit of fun with the situation, refusing to obey the black flag, punting Ambrose back so HE can't win, and then smoking tires after the finish as if he'd won.

It was a pretty good show. He's insane, but one of the most entertaining drivers in NASCAR.
 
2007-08-05 07:21:02 AM  
Shame on Robby. He is least classy guy in NASCAR, and that's saying something in a series with the Busch brothers, Juan Pablo and, yes, even my guy Tony. (I usually give him a pass though because I tend to at least understand his sentiments, even if he doesn't always express it the right way.)

They all need this:
www.simonsays.com
 
2007-08-05 08:26:30 AM  
Although I do appreciate his contributions to bringing American attention to the Dakar, Robby is a king-sized tool. That said, there is no farking way that he wasn't first or second either at the time of caution or at the previous scoring loop. Nascar must have used the next scoring loop which is not how it supposed to work. They were wrong in this and Robby is a douchebag.
 
2007-08-05 08:45:10 AM  
Robby got scored back in the pack because he didn't maintain caution speed. As per the rules, he was scored where he was able to blend back into traffic.

In other words: NASCAR was right, Robby is a douche. Again.

He'll likely be suspended from today's Cup race, too. Between ignoring several orders from the tower, endangering other drivers during and after the race, NASCAR ought to sit him the rest of the season.
 
2007-08-05 08:47:12 AM  
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I'm just a regular Joe, with a regular job
I'm your average white suburbanite slob
I like football and porno and books about war
I've got an average house with a nice hardwood floor
My wife and my job, my kids and my car
My feet on my table, and a Cuban cigar

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I use public toilets and I piss on the seat
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John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen, and as soon as we find a cure for cancer we're gonna thaw out the duke and he's gonna be pretty pissed off, y'know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well, multiply that by fifteen million times, that's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be. I'm gonna get the Duke and John Cassavetes and Lee Marvin (Hey.) and Sam Peckinpah (Hey!) and a case of whiskey (Hey! Hey! Hey!) and drive down to Texas and-- (Hey! You know, you really are an asshole!) Why don't you just shut up and sing the song, pal?


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I'm an asshole (He's the worlds biggest asshole)

A! S-S! H-O! L-E!
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2007-08-05 09:10:37 AM  
ZebZamboni
Robby got scored back in the pack because he didn't maintain caution speed. As per the rules, he was scored where he was able to blend back into traffic.

That makes a little sense, but still in defence of the ass, he was spun after the caution and there was no pace car on the track. I think it was a hatchet job to get the Canuk to the front.

Am I the only one surprised to see Max Papis in a Busch Car?
 
2007-08-05 09:29:14 AM  
Seeing Robby interviewed always makes me cringe. It's like watching a monkey try to eat a hand grenade.
 
2007-08-05 10:12:59 AM  
I didn't watch the race, but I do that Robby Gordon is an asshole and Brian France reminds me more and more of Ricky Bobby and Cal Naughton's car owner each week.
 
2007-08-05 10:39:39 AM  
ESPN just said he's out of today's race. Banned from the garage.
 
2007-08-05 10:46:46 AM  
NASCAR is mad because robby ruined the setup for the Aussie or
the canadian to win think it thru montoya wins in Mexico City.
NASCAR is getting more like WWE everyday.
 
2007-08-05 10:49:13 AM  
bullshiat...plain and simple

caution waved, and if he was bumped and they wanted to send him to the back, bullshiat

however, gordon pulling out the asshat card didnt really help out his cause

/dual burnout was cool though
 
2007-08-05 11:12:54 AM  
Outlaw2097: bullshiat...plain and simple

caution waved, and if he was bumped and they wanted to send him to the back, bullshiat

however, gordon pulling out the asshat card didnt really help out his cause

/dual burnout was cool though


Wait... What?

That don't make no sence!!
 
2007-08-05 11:26:20 AM  
Mouth Breather:

That don't make no sence!!


If the caution waves, the field is frozen. Plain and simple.

The caution in question happened before Gordon got bumped by the guy behind him. Officials, being french canadian (or whatever the reason) told him to go back to 13th for spinning and getting passed.

...but the field was frozen, was it not?
 
2007-08-05 11:29:31 AM  
kpottruff: and how about Canadian drivers who have never taken part in a NASCAR or Busch race coming in 2nd and 4th?

Especially Carpentier who had never been in a Busch car until a week ago. not particularily into racing but I thought that was rather cool.


Fellows has raced plenty of times as a road course driver in nascar, bush, and even the truck series.

Carpentier should surprise no one since he is one of the best drivers out there.
 
2007-08-05 11:39:59 AM  
Yes, it was teh conspiracies!!! to get Carpentier (Formula Atlantic champion, Champcar race winner) or Fellows (3-time NBS winner, CTS winner, Le Mans winner, 'Mr. Corvette') or Ambrose (2-time V8 Supercar Champion) to victory, cause lord knows none of those guys could _ever_ win a race on a road course without an unfair advantage.

Gordon was an ass on the track, and it doesn't jive with his post-race comments. Supposedly he thought Ambrose just didn't check up in time (it seemed that even Gordon thought that he was 2nd, not 1st after the caution); but then, why all the pace-lap shenanigans? I think it was that that got his ass keel-hauled more than anything, even than the punt on the restart.

I was _tremendously_ impressed with Ambrose's reaction. Having watched him for 2 seasons in Australia, that was _not_ what I expected; he has a reputation there very similar to Earnharts was. Despite what I'm absoultely sure was a deliberate push to Gordon after Turn 3, he comes out of it smelling like a rose, all cause he kept his cool. Well done.
 
2007-08-05 12:19:54 PM  
Ambrose is class act.
 
2007-08-05 12:28:50 PM  
yea robbies a dick,,but i still like him better than dale junior.
 
2007-08-05 12:33:42 PM  
Do people still watch stock car racing?
 
2007-08-05 12:42:05 PM  
He just gave a pretty good interview on Raceday. They must have him on Valium or something.
 
2007-08-05 01:11:07 PM  
lunchinlewis
He just gave a pretty good interview on Raceday. They must have him on Valium or something.

I think they gave him a big ass check and told him to pay his fine out of it, tell his story, apologise and STFU. They only penalised him for one race and they still let his car run and be at the track. NASCAR surely realise they farked up, because the penalty certainly would have been higher for his asshattery. Robby doesn't need the points or trophy, he needs money.

/He's got to feed the monkey, man.
 
2007-08-05 01:24:07 PM  
Here's the thing athletes of all types forget: even if you know you're getting farked, you have to deal with it professionally. Throwing a big biatch fit and whining and generally acting like a douche changes the story from how you got farked to what an asshat you are.

It's amusing how many athletes who complain about the "media's out to get me" don't seem to have the most basic idea of how to act around them.
 
2007-08-05 01:24:37 PM  
ZebZamboni: Robby got scored back in the pack because he didn't maintain caution speed. As per the rules, he was scored where he was able to blend back into traffic.

In other words: NASCAR was right, Robby is a douche. Again.

He'll likely be suspended from today's Cup race, too. Between ignoring several orders from the tower, endangering other drivers during and after the race, NASCAR ought to sit him the rest of the season.


I don't know which race you were watching. I saw the 55 make a pass and establish himself in front of the 59 long before being punted when he slowed in a turn. I'd love to hear a definition of "blending in" that doesn't include single file cars traveling at the same speed.

I'm no Robby Gordon fan and the punt on the restart shows why. If he'd raced the 59 clean for two laps and still finished ahead of him a lot more people would be on his side today.
 
2007-08-05 01:49:52 PM  
This is the only reason to watch NASCAR: people who don't like each other trying to wreck the other person's super expensive car.

I support unintentional crashes too.
 
2007-08-05 02:42:21 PM  
Robby Gordon's assholerie goes WAAAAAAAAY back. This is the guy who caused the change in the " gentleman's agreement " by passing Kevin Harvick under caution at Watkins Glenn about five years ago. He's always looking for an angle instead of using his alleged tallent to win races. This latest antic is just typical. He was speeding under caution, He would not blend in under the rules and he dumped the car that should have won. End of story. You Robby lovers, quit crying. Nascar got it right for a change. This guy needs to be reined in before he hurts somebody.

The saddest part about the whole mess was the Robby Gordon " victory " burnout. Christ, he almost hit the real winner, Kevin Harvick.
 
2007-08-05 02:57:13 PM  
Now I first off want to state that I highly dislike Robby Gordon, and to an extent think that how NASCAR is run, is simply an embarrassment to auto racing. Robby of course because he is a bonehead, and NASCAR for both bending the rules, and also changing them mid-season, or even for that matter mid-race.

In this case though I side with Gordon, as he did get the pass done before the yellow came out, and then was spun by Ambrose clearly after the yellow was already out, accident or not. In my own favorite styles of racing (IRL, F1) the hit Ambrose did could have been very well potentially deadly.

The field was very well frozen, and once again NASCAR changes the rules during a race, and screws Gordon over. His reaction though of spinning Ambrose was truly bonehead though. Sure I would have accepted the staying out on the track protest to NASCAR through the black flags, but ruining Ambrose's race which looked quite good, for what may have been an accident was stupid on his part. The track speed ruling is a pathetic excuse for NASCAR to hide behind, when Robby may have been slowing to a safe speed, and definitely contradicts what it has ruled before. Good job NASCAR you earned any bad press from the first incident, and Robby's subsequent asshattedness.

I do have to lastly say that I absolutely love the track there in Montreal, both from the F1, and CART series racing there. NASCAR simply needs more road courses to race at, because why would you want to run a track twice with very similar conditions (I support a day and a night race at a track), it's just boring.
 
2007-08-05 03:02:15 PM  
I'm just waiting for a batshiat driver to take a choice piece of equipment into the offices of NASCAR to 'discuss' any sanctions.

/you can take the race out of the South
//you can't take the South out of the race
///squeal like a pig?
 
2007-08-05 04:18:50 PM  
The replays were very poor due to lack of cameras in the area, but there is pretty high chance that Ambrose was in front of Gordon when the yellow was out and Gordon passed.

From what I could see there didn't appear to be a marshall along that straight where the pass was made. The first one i think they could see was after they did the chicane where the pass really occured and before Ambrose spun him.

As an Aussie I am biased towards Ambrose, though I am not ford fan and never have been.

Regardless of where Gordon should have been placed to restart the race, he was an absolute tool and jerk to do the following:
- ignore nascar commands to get in line in the correct place
- ignore his crew chief commands to get in line in the correct place
- spin Ambrose on corner 2 (who didnt see that coming?)
- collect Andy Pilgrim in the #88 who had nothing to do with it
- then proceed to ignore black flag passing the finish line
- proceed to ignore black flag with white cross the next lap
- act as though he won the race knowing full well he was black flagged

Very happy to see him out of todays race, hopefully Nascar will add a few more races as well. As his sponsor I would have concerns because in all the mess they got associated with it and on top of it they got next to no free promos from the mess.

Ambrose was a class act at the interview. I probably would have wanted to deck the guy. Now THAT would be worth a one race ban.
 
2007-08-05 04:31:05 PM  
The problem is that NASCAR can't be relied upon to do the right thing, so a competitor is less likely to keep his cool and let NASCAR sort everything out.
 
2007-08-05 06:09:16 PM  
Just another case of Nascar's long (and amateurish) practice of making up the rules as they go along. Had Jeff Gordon or Dale Jr. been been punted under caution, Nascar would almost certainly have placed them 1st or 2nd. But it was Robby Gordon, so they placed him 12th.

(BTW, the ruling to place Robby in 12th was made by the regular Nascar officials, not the Canadian organizers.)

Had Nascar made a ruling consistent with their previous rulings, Gordon would have been placed 1st or 2nd. Nascar didn't, they made up a special rule just for this situation. The excuse Nascar offered to support their ruling was just that, an excuse.

Nascar's oppressive management tactics give drivers in his situation very little to lose. Nascar never overturns a victory, Nascar never admits a mistake. Nascar takes away, but they never give back. Even when Nascar officials make a horrible call, the officials are always right.

By never punishing officials who make mistakes and never vindicated wronged teams and drivers, Nascar brings this sort of thing on themselves.

Had Robby abided Nascar's decision, he would have lost nearly as badly. He would have finished 12th and the driver who illegally punted him under caution would have been gifted a wholly unearned victory.

So Robby did the only thing in his power to somewhat square the situation. He prevented the guy who punted him under caution from winning the event. No matter what you think of Robby, Ambrose did Not deserve to win that race.

I think the price Robby paid is pretty small. He missed Pocano... the crappiest track, the least safe track, and most boring race of the season....
 
jht [TotalFark]
2007-08-05 08:03:12 PM  
Robby Gordon is a grade A asshat, but yeah, he got screwed. No way was it appropriate to drop him back in the field - it was clear that he got spun under yellow.

Robby being Robby, though, he just had to punt Ambrose on the pass. And earned the black flag and suspension. If he could have made a clean pass and ran the race from there, maybe he could have had an argument to make.

Of course, NASCAR never admits farking up. As much as I like watching a stock car race, it is way too much like WWE for my liking sometimes.
 
2007-08-05 08:51:02 PM  
But if Gordon had made a clean pass, Nascar would still have black flagged him. Worse yet, they'd have given the win to Ambrose.

There was no way Gordon would have won an appeal, because Nascar almost never listens to appeals and never ever takes away a win. Even if a winning car is caught cheating, at worst, the driver will lose points or suffer a fine. Nascar never takes a win.

Ambrose punted Gordon under caution while Gordon was in the lead. Ambrose definitely did not deserve to be gifted the win. After Nascar's decision to push Gordon back to 12th place, Gordon knew the only way to keep Ambrose from winning was to spin him.

The underlying problem here is with Nascar. Their hard headed arrogance gave Gordon no other recourse. Hell, none of the drivers and teams have any recourse for Nascar decisions. I can't remember a single successful appeal of any Nascar track official's decision, ever!

When the officials are that hard headed, they force drivers to get justice where they can, on the track. If Nascar allowed fair appeals of their decisions, even someone like Robby Gordon may have held back in hopes of getting a fair hearing.

But Gordon knew he had zero chance of Nascar listening to a post-race appeal, so he made sure the guy who punted him under caution wouldn't win.

Gordon knew he'd pay a price for his actions. He probably even knew what that price would be. Nascar will almost certainly never admit that they made a mistake in pushing Gordon back to 12th.

I respect Gordon one hell of a lot more than I do Nascar.
 
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