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(Some Guy)   Do red shirts really die more often in Star Trek? Open up your spreadsheet and follow along with this rich Web 2.0 analysis   (clicktracks.com) divider line 97
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2007-08-03 05:16:19 PM  
OK, that is awesomely hilarious.
 
2007-08-03 06:12:16 PM  
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2007-08-03 06:19:08 PM  
Red shirts were security. They knew what they were getting into when they signed up for guaranteed Star Fleet Academy scholarships and free rides on a spaceship. "Oh, what can happen when you're light years away from the nearest pebble?"

Then when things get tough, they all want asylum on Hippy-Alpha-7 in the nuetral zone.

Suck it up you free riding Nancys. Get Kirk laid or get your ass on the front line.
 
2007-08-03 06:30:50 PM  
img466.imageshack.us
 
2007-08-03 06:39:35 PM  
This analysis misses the main point of the whole red-shirt phenoenom, which was that Kirk, Spock, and/or Bones, plus two red shirts, would typically beam down in an episode, and the main characters would always live and the red shirts would frequently die.
 
2007-08-03 06:47:07 PM  
Heeh, Hosts blocking :O)


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2007-08-03 06:47:18 PM  
www.sillyape.org

/me too
 
2007-08-03 06:48:56 PM  
Outtaphase: Red shirts were security. They knew what they were getting into when they signed up for guaranteed Star Fleet Academy scholarships and free rides on a spaceship. "Oh, what can happen when you're light years away from the nearest pebble?"

Then when things get tough, they all want asylum on Hippy-Alpha-7 in the nuetral zone.

Suck it up you free riding Nancys. Get Kirk laid or get your ass on the front line.




Damn libtard redshirts! Before you know it, they'll try to raise Captain Kirk's taxes.
 
2007-08-03 06:51:38 PM  
Outtaphase: Red shirts were security. They knew what they were getting into when they signed up for guaranteed Star Fleet Academy scholarships and free rides on a spaceship. "Oh, what can happen when you're light years away from the nearest pebble?"

If I'm recalling things correctly, in the original series, red was worn by security, non-commissioned officers, and some engineering crew.

For reference, yellow was strictly command, and blue was medical and science personnel.
 
2007-08-03 06:53:26 PM  
Not img1.fark.com at all, smitty. He teaches a subject in way that is fun. Nerderous, maybe, but fun. I try to work some fun into my psychology lectures (political propaganda in comic books, using the attraction research literature to design the perfect first date, etc), and the number of students who manage to maintain consciousness through the entire lecture dramatically increases.
 
2007-08-03 07:04:28 PM  
FTFA: When Captain Kirk meets an alien woman and "makes contact" the survival rate of the red-shirted crewmen increases by 84%.

Pity the poor captain.... the sacrifices he was called on to make for the safety of his crew.
 
2007-08-03 07:04:54 PM  
I've always wondered what the colors represented.

I vowed to never watch Star Trek (or Wars) and my boyfriend introduced me to Voyager and I fell in love.


Kionae: If I'm recalling things correctly, in the original series, red was worn by security, non-commissioned officers, and some engineering crew.

For reference, yellow was strictly command, and blue was medical and science personnel.


So I think, at least for Voyager, it was the other way around.
 
2007-08-03 07:06:42 PM  
BATTLE OF THE AGES!

www.4halloweencostumes.com vs. rhml.lib.mo.us

Must always die vs. can't shoot for shiat
 
2007-08-03 07:29:05 PM  
DrFGeek: BATTLE OF THE AGES!

vs.

Must always die vs. can't shoot for shiat (new window)
 
2007-08-03 07:30:43 PM  
I only have one question.

What the fark does this have to do with web 2.0 :P
 
2007-08-03 07:34:48 PM  
DrFGeek:

Dont use a ST:TNG red-shirt (a captain, no less) while referencing a original Star Trek red-shirt.

/ass
 
2007-08-03 07:43:43 PM  
jtaker: I vowed to never watch Star Trek (or Wars) and my boyfriend introduced me to Voyager and I fell in love.

And you started off with the second worst incarnation out there? Did you like Enterprise?
 
2007-08-03 07:50:19 PM  
NimbleWalrus: DrFGeek:

Dont use a ST:TNG red-shirt (a captain, no less) while referencing a original Star Trek red-shirt.

/ass


Awww, someone wet his Huggees. upload.wikimedia.org There ya go, all better.

/I accept your title of ass!
 
2007-08-03 07:55:48 PM  
DrFGeek: Awww, someone wet his Huggees.

This doesn't make sense.
 
2007-08-03 07:57:47 PM  
NimbleWalrus: Dont use a ST:TNG red-shirt (a captain, no less) while referencing a original Star Trek red-shirt.


I own a ST:TNG red captain's shirt, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...

/yes really. Hangs head in nerderous shame.
//thanks to Son of Thunder for the word nerderous
///got the shirt at the ST Experience in Las Vegas
 
2007-08-03 08:01:29 PM  
NimbleWalrus: DrFGeek: Awww, someone wet his Huggees.

This doesn't make sense.


Okay, blunt approach. You're a crybaby. You cry about the improper series, (*gasp* oh noes, and a captain, no less) when the message was clear enough to understand.
 
2007-08-03 08:01:42 PM  
that there is some bad stats.

i bet the amount of red shirt deaths : total deaths would be proportional to red shirt crew members : total crew members.

plus, as it was pointed out, red shirts represented security officers, therefore they would be more likely put in harms way. All security was red shirted, but not all red shirts are security. Therefore it would not be feasible to say that wearing a red shirt increases your chance of dieing. It would be reasonable to assume that becomming a security officer on a starship would increase your chances of death though.
 
2007-08-03 08:25:03 PM  
Well red shirts in the original series were engineering and security. It's their job to sweat and die.
 
2007-08-03 08:39:08 PM  
DrFGeek: You cry about the improper series, (*gasp* oh noes, and a captain, no less) when the message was clear enough to understand.

You're in a debate about Star Trek semantics. What made you think technicalities didn't count?
 
2007-08-03 08:44:03 PM  
nanded: DrFGeek: You cry about the improper series, (*gasp* oh noes, and a captain, no less) when the message was clear enough to understand.

You're in a debate about Star Trek semantics. What made you think technicalities didn't count?


DrFGeek is just upset that no one lol'd at his lame attempt at humor.
 
2007-08-03 08:56:11 PM  
nanded: You're in a debate about Star Trek semantics. What made you think technicalities didn't count?

Touche. And being that I'm no Trekkie/Trekker/etc. I really shouldn't debate on the issue in the first place.

/Still fun to poke the Trekkies though.
//Vulcan hand sign. "May the Force be with you."
 
2007-08-03 08:59:16 PM  
Did he count Scotty's death, I wonder?

Also, for the nerderous (XD) Trekkies out there, why do TOS captains wear yellow but TNG captains wear red?
 
2007-08-03 08:59:42 PM  
DrFGeek: Okay, blunt approach. You're a crybaby. You cry about the improper series, (*gasp* oh noes, and a captain, no less) when the message was clear enough to understand.

I'm not really crying. Irritation doesn't come across well through text. And inaccuracies irritate me.
 
2007-08-03 08:59:53 PM  
So this lists p(red_shirt|dead)=0.73, but it doesn't measure p(dead|red_shirt), because we don't know p(dead) and p(red_shirt), right? There's a lot of numbers listed there, but the page isn't clear on exactly what was measured or how...
 
2007-08-03 09:01:06 PM  
www.agweb.com
 
2007-08-03 09:01:27 PM  
I'm a security officer, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

/Not on a starship, unfortunately
//Though sometimes I do think I'm dealing with mysterious lifeforms
 
2007-08-03 09:04:44 PM  
Ed Grubermann: jtaker: I vowed to never watch Star Trek (or Wars) and my boyfriend introduced me to Voyager and I fell in love.

And you started off with the second worst incarnation out there? Did you like Enterprise?


time travelling alien reptile nazis
vs
the captain and pilot turning into salamanders and having salamander babies on a random planet because the pilot took a shuttle to infinite speed for a couple of days and ended up within a few light years of the ship...

And Enterprise was worse? Really?
 
2007-08-03 09:11:50 PM  
maxjenius: the captain and pilot turning into salamanders and having salamander babies on a random planet because the pilot took a shuttle to infinite speed for a couple of days and ended up within a few light years of the ship...

After watching that episode, I was thinking "Damn, they have a cure to the salamander disease. Why not just use the warp 10 engine, get home, and then have the unaffected holographic doctor cure everyone??"
 
2007-08-03 09:20:58 PM  
Full on awesome.

/Suck it tribs
 
2007-08-03 09:21:18 PM  
I suck at math, but this was really cool. And really nerdy. Which was largely why it was cool. Also, there's a Warp 11 song in all this somewhere.
 
2007-08-03 09:27:38 PM  
Great! I've wanted to know this information my whole life! Now I can get a laxative. Anybody seen Harry Mudd?
 
2007-08-03 09:30:03 PM  
Crunch the numbers all you want...

Redshirts were born to die....

Scotty wore one, but 'es not in the haggis with the rest...
 
2007-08-03 09:35:22 PM  
Asperger's.
 
2007-08-03 09:46:29 PM  
maxjenius: time travelling alien reptile nazis
vs
the captain and pilot turning into salamanders and having salamander babies on a random planet because the pilot took a shuttle to infinite speed for a couple of days and ended up within a few light years of the ship...

And Enterprise was worse? Really?


Yes, Enterprise was worse. At least Voyager could keep my attention for one hour.

nanded: After watching that episode, I was thinking "Damn, they have a cure to the salamander disease. Why not just use the warp 10 engine, get home, and then have the unaffected holographic doctor cure everyone??"

Then they would have ended their series earlier than the seventh season.
 
2007-08-03 09:47:40 PM  
Hint, the red shirt phenom was TOS....
 
2007-08-03 09:49:54 PM  
NimbleWalrus: DrFGeek: Awww, someone wet his Huggees.

This doesn't make sense.


Get a room, you two
 
2007-08-03 09:51:41 PM  
So much for the "Live Long and Prosper" Philosophy.

writer/researcher really needs to get a life.
 
2007-08-03 09:54:21 PM  
DrFGeek: BATTLE OF THE AGES!

vs.

Must always die vs. can't shoot for shiat


I just emailed a link to your comment to a friend. Original or not, that's awesome.
 
2007-08-03 10:05:01 PM  
Wow! The fact that someone took the time to research that, graph it, and explain all the data points completely amazes me.

The fact that I could follow it and recognize which episodes he used as examples makes me very worried.

/trekkie girl for life i guess.
 
2007-08-03 10:06:09 PM  
"but 'es not in the haggis with the rest..."

Aye, that'd be it, kilgorn, well said, laddie.....
 
CPB
2007-08-03 10:06:30 PM  
Great find, submitter. Thanks.
 
2007-08-03 10:15:07 PM  
ginko

Wow! The fact that someone took the time to research that, graph it, and explain all the data points completely amazes me.

The fact that I could follow it and recognize which episodes he used as examples makes me very worried.

/trekkie girl for life i guess.


Never apologize for being gifted....
 
2007-08-03 10:23:24 PM  
I wouldn't apologize as it got me through college.
However, my husband is laughing at me as I explain the article to him.

/set phasers to 'the couch' Mr. Sulu.
 
2007-08-03 10:29:47 PM  
Man, there was a lot of science involved in that article. Half way through I was tempted to just say "fark this, Jesus did it."
 
2007-08-03 10:32:24 PM  
"Let's get out of here before one of those things kills Guy."
-- "Galaxy Quest" 1999
 
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