Did I fail reading comprehension?

What armory? What cache of guns?

The following words do not appear in the article: gun, cache, armory, firearm...

/WTF?

SherKhan-

See? We're missing out on a fat niche market because of a lack of research! I demand investigation transparency!

Unless TFA has been changed since subbie sent it in (and perhaps it has?) there is no mention of any "small armory" found, or even any guns at all. I read it three times. No such language therein.

So... RTFA

Elephantman

Thank you! That totally made purusing this thread worth it. I'm gonna go die laughing now.

Mighty_Dog

There's no hate like conservative hate.

SharkInfested:
I'm in Your Black Muslim Bakery eating up your prophet margins.muffins

Prophet Muffins? I'll take two, with some Infidel Juice.

p.s. that's a hilarious joke about the people who died on 9/11. I really like the way you use their deaths to further your bigoted political agenda.

::sigh:: Black Muslims make about as much sense as this guy:

/also, for any conservatives, even the one who like Bush, I don't mean to compare you all with a racist bigot like Mighty_Dog but I couldn't resist the ironic twist of his "liberal hate" tagline.

"Roberson, also of Oakland, was found shot several times early on July 8 in front of 1077 60th Street, not far from the bakery."

Now that's hardcore. Around here we'd most likely stand around and wait for the cops to show up. It would never occur to us to start up a game of hide the dead guy.

so they found a shotgun that's believed to be the gun used in thurdays oakland murder of the paper editor... AT THE BAKERY.

don't they know to "take the canoli, leave the gun"?

farking morons.

thunderation: As soon as Whoopty Whoo The Precious Bongo Boy gets here, I'm sure he'll have something to say.

I can hear it now: "jus cuz they be black dont meen they be guilty"

Not to mention an assload of teen-age "IM" phrasing.
"LOL!!1"

/No idea of WWTPBB's racial heritage.
//And don't give a fark.

roycarl: Not that this has anything to do with your point, which I'm sure was that guns are evil. But that book really, really sucked. And although it's probably been at least 7 years since I read the damned thing, I can't help but think that I remember Henry having sex with his dead wife at the end. Could have read to much into the scene I guess.

OAKLAND, Calif. - A veteran journalist and newspaper editor was shot to death on his way to work in what police are calling a premeditated hit.

I guess Yusuf Bey the IV didn't like the newspaper reporting his strip club adventures or liquor store smashups.

gorgor: WHITE POWER!

We're going to have some cookies and milk and talk about white brotherhood. White Power!

fark_of_the_covenant Quote 2007-08-03 06:17:07 PM
SharkInfested:

Prophet Muffins? I'll take two, with some Infidel Juice.


I doubt they serve Jews there.

allegedly...

t25bimmer: How can interfaith dialogue, even at
the highest level, reconcile worldviews that are fundamentally incompatible and, in principle,
immune to revision?

Nice post. I agree completely.

tinyarena: Someone remind me why these people pretend they're Muslim again?

So you can dress like Ray Charles?

More like Kool Moe Dee:

t25bimmer:

great Boobies on religion. second post on european integration was a bit alarmist.

muslim minorities are less reluctant to assimilate than immigrants from non-muslim countries in europe, true. This doesnt mean they're not assimilating and going secular.

i think europe has heard the bugle call and has tightened up restrictions. Look at the laws passed in D and NL since the slaying of the dutch playright, and other "sticks" to already go with the "carrots" already offered.

Muslim integration in europe is their biggest challenge this century. But its nowhere near as alarmist as people make it, your good self included. There are plenty of integrated, secular muslims in western europe. Sure there are the immigrants and their asshat honor killings, but those are the first gens and disappear, and there are always going to be the stubborn ones who resist, but most of them do assimilate, they're just slower at it than immigrants are here because a) our immigrants tend to be culturally more like us (latinos are christians at least), and we americans are better at assimilating foreigners and making them assimilate. Europe will learn how to do it, too. they've been dealing with immigrant waves for 40 years, we've been doing it for as long as we've been around.

one could say the same thing about the latinos in this country, and i think most of us in the west who live in "communities threatened by the brown menace who want to take back california" see the fear mongering for what it is, racist bullshiat.

the latinos will assimilate just like the irish and italians before them, and so too will the turks and the algerians in germany and france, respectively. they'll leave their mark on their socieites, but they're hardly a threat to german or french national identity or statehood.

logruszed
Well, they're lazy good for nothin' tricksters... crack-smokin' swindlers! Big butt havin', wide nose, breathin' all the white man's air!

/lol:)

where da cache at?

Mighty_Dog

Wins it.

/there needs to be a way to hand someone a beer over TCP/IP

studebaker hoch: Mighty_Dog
/there needs to be a way to hand someone a beer over TCP/IP


THIS.

man we need to start a business.

Enrico Pallazzo: Caption contest anyone?

Religion destroys everything and moderate religion paves the way by making it taboo to speak out against someone elses relious beliefs.
Religion raises the stakes of human conflict much higher than tribalism, racism, or politics
ever can, as it is the only form of in-group/ out-group thinking that casts the differences
between people in terms of eternal rewards and punishments. One of the enduring
pathologies of human culture is the tendency to raise children to fear and demonize other
human beings on the basis of religious faith. Consequently, faith inspires violence in at least
two ways. First, people often kill other human beings because they believe that the creator of
the universe wants them to do it. Islamist terrorism is a recent example of this sort of
behavior. Second, far greater numbers of people fall into conflict with one another because
they define their moral community on the basis of their religious affiliation: Muslims side with
other Muslims, Protestants with Protestants, Catholics with Catholics. These conflicts are not
always explicitly religious. But the bigotry and hatred that divide one community from another
are often the products of their religious identities. Conflicts that seem driven entirely by
terrestrial concerns, therefore, are often deeply rooted in religion. The fighting that has
plagued Palestine (Jews vs. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians vs. Catholic Croatians;
Orthodox Serbians vs. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants vs.
Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims vs. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims vs. Christians and animists),*
Nigeria (Muslims vs. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea, (Muslims vs. Christians), Ivory Coast
(Muslims vs. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists vs. Tamil Hindus), Philippines
(Muslims vs. Christians), Iran and Iraq (Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims), and the Caucasus
(Orthodox Russians vs. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis vs. Catholic and Orthodox
Armenians) are merely a few, recent cases in point.

SO, and I'm sure I'm not the first one to point this out, it's NOT ok to drink as a Muslim, but it's perfectly OK to go to strip clubs? Why would you go to a strip club if you were sober? That would destroy the illusion that the women actually want you, or are actually attractive.

ilgallo 2007-08-03 06:00:43 PM
I'm pretty sure you won't find any crackers in there. LOL

Elismom, you are an emotional asshat. Put down the feelings and read. Though you prolly need a comprehension course.

Sorry sweetie, I think you may be confused and I am not surprised.

I dont use the derogatory term 'cracker' unless I am asking for trisquits because I have the vocabulary to avoid simple words like that and I definitly dont need a comprehension course. I got that in the 1st grade.

Get it right darlin'

Brick Top

The following words do not appear in the article: gun, cache, armory, firearm...

Yes, but the word "muslim" appears in the title and then 9 more times in the article.

That's TEN muslims, two airplanes worth!

t25bimmer: Religion raises the stakes of human conflict much higher than tribalism, racism, or politics
ever can, as it is the only form of in-group/ out-group thinking that casts the differences
between people in terms of eternal rewards and punishments. One of the enduring
pathologies of human culture is the tendency to raise childre...

oh grow up, Yeah I am sure that philosophies like Marxism and Nazism were a walk in the park right? And your screed completely ignores the moderating influence of much religion on human behavior.

Look, people are going to use any and every thing to try and destroy each other, it's part of our make up. Personally I like the moderating influence the western religions and Buddhism have had.

t25bimmer:

so these same sorts of conflicts you mention (or copy and paste) have no non-religious precedents?

Communist countries didnt aid other countries because of their like-minded revolutionary solidarity? Monarchies didnt aid other monarchies to crush republics? Democracies dont stick up for eachother now based on their system of govts?

n*gga please.

people find reasons to kill eachother.

in fact, i think most of the reasons you cited above as being fundamentally grounded in religion are more nationalist than anything. the conflict in kashmir is fueled by the pakistani intellegence service to give the indians a kick in the nuts for beating their asses 3 wars in a row, its a nationalist, govt. concocted creation, not a grassroots religious hatred movement, though the appeals to religious solidarity attract recruits from all over in the same way appeals to patriotism attracted recruits to fight our or any other country's wars.

appealing to a religious cause is just another lever to motivate.

pre 1789ish, you appealed to fight for the king.
1789-1914, you appealed to fight for the republic
1939-1989, you appealed to fight for "way of life" (communist vs. capitalist)
now we fight for "freedom", whatever the hell that is.

we've gone through a nice evolution of things to fight and die for. the muslim world is still stuck in step 1, but it aint no different.

Impudent Domain
"oh grow up, Yeah I am sure that philosophies like Marxism and Nazism were a walk in the park right? And your screed completely ignores the moderating influence of much religion on human behavior."


The conflict between science and religion is reducible to a simple fact of human cognition and
discourse: either a person has good reasons for what he believes, or he does not. If there were
good reasons to believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, or that Muhammad flew to heaven on
a winged horse, these beliefs would necessarily form part of our rational description of the
universe. Everyone recognizes that to rely upon "faith" to decide specific questions of
historical fact is ridiculous-that is, until the conversation turns to the origin of books like the
Bible and the Koran, to the resurrection of Jesus, to Muhammad's conversation with the
archangel Gabriel, or to any other religious dogma. It is time that we admitted that faith is
nothing more than the license religious people give one another to keep believing when
reasons fail.

While believing strongly, without evidence, is considered a mark of madness or stupidity in
any other area of our lives, faith in God still holds immense prestige in our society. Religion is
the one area of our discourse where it is considered noble to pretend to be certain about
things no human being could possibly be certain about. It is telling that this aura of nobility
extends only to those faiths that still have many subscribers. Anyone caught worshipping
Poseidon, even at sea, will be thought insane.
In reguards to Marxism and Nazism. First off Hitler was a Christian. The problem with such tyrants is not that they reject the dogma of religion, but that they
embrace other life-destroying myths. Most become the center of a quasi-religious personality
cult, requiring the continual use of propaganda for its maintenance. There is a difference
between propaganda and the honest dissemination of information that we (generally) expect
from a liberal democracy. Tyrants who orchestrate genocides, or who happily preside over the
starvation of their own people, also tend to be profoundly idiosyncratic men, not champions
of reason. Kim Il Sung, for instance, demanded that his beds at his various dwellings be
situated precisely five hundred meters above sea level. His duvets had to be filled with the
softest down imaginable. What is the softest down imaginable? It apparently comes from the
chin of a sparrow. Seven hundred thousand sparrows were required to fill a single duvet.
Given the profundity of his esoteric concerns, we might wonder how reasonable a man Kim
Il Sung actually was.

Impudent Domain 2007-08-03 06:08:22 PM
elismom: Never, I am a grown woman. I dont 'make fun' of people. This is not Jr. high school sweetie. try again.

doubtfull, only because you are a bay area person, most everyone I have ever encountered from the left coast had a good time attacking southerners.

Yeah, and everyone in the bay is exactly the same right. Whats sad is you dont even realize how stupid that sounds. YOU are perpetrating the 'dumb southerner' sterotype. A sterotype I dont believe by the way.

I speak to people from around the world with different accents all day at work and not once have I ever hung up the phone and broke out in laughter or started imitating an accent. I dont have time for that, at work or in my life. It childish.

Next.

Somacandra - Religion of Yeast

In the words of our favorite Butt Bongo Fiesta Boy, I LOL'd!!ONE1

elismom:elismom: Yeah, and everyone in the bay is exactly the same right.

Yeah, gay hippies with bo.


/I keed!
//Only about half are gay hippies.

Klyde:Americans aren't allowed to own guns?

Not all Americans (Felons, etc.) are allowed to own guns. Not all types of guns (fully-automatic, very large caliber, armor-piercing rounds, etc.) are legal for private ownership without very unusual permits.

I didn't RTFA, but I'm guessing this situation falls into one of those two categories (or both).

Impudent Domain: Somacandra: Anyone who says Islam is not a violent religion has never rread the Koran

Anyone who says Hinduism isn't violent hasn't read the Baghavad Gita...

Anyone who says Judaism isn't violent hasn't read the Tanakh...

Yada, yada, yada. Call me when you get a rhetorical strategy past 1800.

pretty damn weak SOM,
for a person who says they have studied religions you don't seem to have learned very much. there is absolutely NO COMPARISON between the belligerence and xenophobia of Islam (both in the scripture and in it's history) and any other religion (except maybe the thugee cult).

And to say anything otherwise is disengenuious.

You obviously aren't familiar with the efforts of Catholics to kill Protestants and vice versa throughout the Wars of Religion in Europe.

elismom:Yeah, and everyone in the bay is exactly the same, right? Whats sad is you don't even realize how stupid that sounds.

Punctuation: use it to make your sentences more intelligible.

Hey Abbott, one more time, this is Your Black Muslim Bakery?

logruszed 2007-08-03 06:59:48 PM
elismom:elismom: Yeah, and everyone in the bay is exactly the same right.

Yeah, gay hippies with bo.


/I keed!
//Only about half are gay hippies.

Funny. But gays are too fashionable and hygenic to ever be confused with hippies.

Tat'dGreaser: t25bimmer: Let us briefly consider


You lost me right about here.

I didn't even read that far, the length and density put me off...

"... the black man is a peaceful person by nature. A black person, even if you do something wrong to him to her, but still they have peace. What I want to emphasise here, the most important thing that I want to emphasise here is to try to educate them, try to show them that a black person is forgiving, even though you have done something wrong. That is the reason why a lot of nations would like to take them for granted, because it is their nature. They are very forgiving."

Bullshiiit!

People are people. In other words, mostly paranoid, greedy and selfish.

kc987654
I hear your east hampton schools suck I can see wy you cannot get past the first sentence.

jshine 2007-08-03 07:09:17 PM
elismom:Yeah, and everyone in the bay is exactly the same, right? Whats sad is you don't even realize how stupid that sounds.

Punctuation: use it to make your sentences more intelligible.


Thank you i was just typing so fast i didnt realize there was no punctuation maybe you can correct all of my post so i dont have to im sure you understood the gist right