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(ABC)   First paragraph: Last year a record 10,942 Americans moved to Canada, mostly to get away from Bush. Fourth paragraph: Last year 23,913 Canadians also moved to the US, presumably to get away from Canada's superior health care or something   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 269
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2007-08-01 04:14:14 PM
go home frostbacks!!!

/is canadian
 
2007-08-01 04:21:17 PM
They're takin our jerbs!
 
2007-08-01 04:23:45 PM
The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons, says Jedwab, based on anecdotal evidence.

hey, that's the best kind of evidence there is!

no wonder journalists enjoy such crappy public esteem
 
2007-08-01 04:24:31 PM
I prefer to get my news from rumor and small children.
 
2007-08-01 04:24:59 PM
These guys cleverly use English to advance their sinister infiltration.

/Except those from Quebec.
 
2007-08-01 04:25:06 PM
Mostly due to Bush, partially due to their superior syrup. eh?
 
2007-08-01 04:26:17 PM
albo: The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons,

Horsehockey. It's fueled by an economy in boom and money growing on trees, at least 'round these parts.
 
2007-08-01 04:27:10 PM
Ha, Ha! Won't they be surprised when they find out all the good hockey teams left for the US years ago!
 
2007-08-01 04:35:15 PM
www.youhoser.com

Eh, hosehead, once you get there you can have all the free beer and sausages you want.
 
2007-08-01 04:42:52 PM
i149.photobucket.com
Hello Yankee doodles!
 
2007-08-01 04:43:54 PM
FTA:

The number of U.S. citizens who moved to Canada last year hit a 30-year high, with a 20 percent increase over the previous year and almost double the number who moved in 2000.

and:

Of course, those numbers are still outweighed by the number of Canadians going the other way. Yet, that imbalance is shrinking. Last year, 23,913 Canadians moved to the United States, a significant decrease from 29,930 in 2005.

ctrl-F "health" yields a pro-Canada anecdote.

WTF? Is the "asinine" tag for you, submitter?
 
2007-08-01 04:45:52 PM
oldfarthenry: Hello Yankee doodles!

Welcome, Imperialist Yankee Great Satan Dogs. Now, let's get to work on your tongue rolling. Repeat after me:

r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-oll up the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-im
r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-oll up the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-im
 
2007-08-01 04:50:30 PM
As great as Canada is, It's very hard to start a business and get rich up here. Canada is generally great for living and raising a family. However the way the economy works up here it's hard to make a good earning (except for Alberta). It's much easier to get rich in States. I'm a Canadian and am planning to make money in the US. Perhaps once I'm wealthy enough I'll move back north and spend it in Canada.
 
2007-08-01 04:50:58 PM
To be fair, they were just escaping Calgary. Unfortunately in their attempt to move someplace decent they all ended up in Cleveland.
 
2007-08-01 04:51:19 PM
Bob_Laublaw: Welcome, Imperialist Yankee Great Satan Dogs. Now, let's get to work on your tongue rolling. Repeat after me:

r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-oll up the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-im
r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-oll up the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-im


Goddammit, now I have a craving for a double-double.
 
2007-08-01 04:53:38 PM
CraicBaby: Goddammit, now I have a craving for a double-double.

Another example of a good American successfully integrated into the culture.
 
2007-08-01 05:00:33 PM
klymen: As great as Canada is, It's very hard to start a business and get rich up here.

Total horsesh*t. Not only is the process of creating a proprietorship as simple as a piece of paper that costs less than $100, most municipal governments and every provincial ones provide grants and tax incentives to start new businesses.

The only people I've ever heard repeat what you just said, are the ones whose businesses flopped, and were too gun-shy to try again.
 
2007-08-01 05:18:16 PM
miseducated: Total horsesh*t. Not only is the process of creating a proprietorship as simple as a piece of paper that costs less than $100, most municipal governments and every provincial ones provide grants and tax incentives to start new businesses.

The only people I've ever heard repeat what you just said, are the ones whose businesses flopped, and were too gun-shy to try again.


Strange. I have some Canadian expat clients, and they all say the US is more entrepreneurial. Of course, they made a bunch of money here; so take it as you will. The tax burden is definitely lower down here.

Canada's awesome, though. I want to start spending summers there.
 
2007-08-01 05:24:15 PM
filth: Canada's awesome, though. I want to start spending summers there.

Okay, it's comments like this that are totally counterproductive to starting a good cross-border flamewar.

Bush sucks!
Janet's nipple!
Crappy beer!
 
2007-08-01 05:26:28 PM
haha Yanks, I'm taking your jerbs!

/CDN in Jersey.
 
2007-08-01 05:32:00 PM
Bob_Laublaw: filth: Canada's awesome, though. I want to start spending summers there.

Okay, it's comments like this that are totally counterproductive to starting a good cross-border flamewar.

Bush sucks!
Janet's nipple!
Crappy beer!


Oh hell. I'm sorry. Let's see here:

Farking Nickleback!
Stop coddling the terrorists!
Your beer sucks, too!
 
2007-08-01 05:35:27 PM
filth: Farking Nickleback!
Stop coddling the terrorists!
Your beer sucks, too!


*sniff* I'm proud of you, son.

*wipes tear*
 
2007-08-01 05:39:04 PM
filth: Farking Nickleback!
Stop coddling the terrorists!
Your beer sucks, too!


God Bless America!

because Canadians aren't Americans.
 
2007-08-01 05:47:38 PM
...Rush...Trailer Park Boys...something,something...
 
2007-08-01 06:04:51 PM
Bob_Laublaw: Welcome, Imperialist Yankee Great Satan Dogs. Now, let's get to work on your tongue rolling. Repeat after me:

r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-oll up the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-im
r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-oll up the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-im

Another example of a good American successfully integrated into the culture.


Hate to break this to you, but we have Timmy's all over the States now (northern states, anyway). Heck, I grew up in Buffalo, NY, and there have been a million of them there for as far back as I can remember. I grew up on their coffee and doughnuts.

Now if they would just keep expanding a little closer to where I live now...
 
2007-08-01 06:05:38 PM
Maybe we should quit worrying about passports and just tag in / out as we pass each other at the border.
 
2007-08-01 06:05:39 PM
but 'mericans ain't 'sposed to wanna go nowhere and Godless fore'nrs are ALL supposed to wanna move to the heartland of the homeland...

/konfused
//Clinton got a BJ
 
2007-08-01 06:05:59 PM
grass is always greener i suppose
 
2007-08-01 06:06:16 PM
a lefty migration to Canada?

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out....
 
2007-08-01 06:07:09 PM
Canadians move to the U.S. because they (a) don't know any better, or(b) know something Americans don't.

Americans move to Canada for the same reason -- choose column a or column b.

Or, column c: in the real world, people move lotsa places for lotsa reasons; sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.
 
2007-08-01 06:07:39 PM
My state borders Canada, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

I really disagree with Canada's liberal government.....however, I will say that you guys are a great neighbor.
 
2007-08-01 06:08:37 PM
And it related news, 10,940 Americans moved to Canada for the better strippers nature, and were found to be only vaguely aware of anything of a political nature.
 
2007-08-01 06:08:48 PM
Bob_Laublaw: albo: The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons,

Horsehockey. It's fueled by an economy in boom and money growing on trees, at least 'round these parts.


Also, to move in with the numerous girlfriends we have in the Niagara Falls area.
 
2007-08-01 06:09:32 PM
They're just taking the jobs that Mexicans don't want.
 
2007-08-01 06:09:39 PM
This might come as a shock to Americans, but it's to get away from the oppressive taxes. That free health care isn't as free as you think it is.
 
2007-08-01 06:09:47 PM
Doc Daneeka: Hate to break this to you, but we have Timmy's all over the States now (northern states, anyway).

Then the integration is well underway.

I hope one day we can take you quietly.
 
2007-08-01 06:10:33 PM
The_Sponge: I really disagree with Canada's liberal government.....however, I will say that you guys are a great neighbor.

I thought the Conservatives were in power up there at the moment.

Stephen Harper is a Conservative, no?
 
2007-08-01 06:12:05 PM
The stats indicate that emigration is up (from 5,828 in 2000 to 10,942 in 2006), with the implication that people are increasingly unhappy with the United States. And I give credit for ABC citing that immigration from Canada to the USA is still much higher (23,913 in 2006, down from 29,930 in 2005.)

But these figures are useless given that the populations of the two countries are nowhere close to similar. When you factor in those figures, it tells a much different story. Canadian population according to the CIA Factbook is 33.4M, compared to an American population of 301.1M. So Canadian population is outnumbered roughly 9 to 1. Applying those proportions to the ABC figures, that means that .0716% of the Canadian population emigrated to the USA in 2006, versus .0036% of the American population. Those figures tell a whole different story. Even as Canadians are outnumbered 9 to 1, they still have 219% more emigrants than immigrants to/from the US.

Given all the hype about "Sicko" and how the Canadian system is so much better than the United States, you would think that at a minimum American emigration would be at least comparable to the opposite case, but it's not. Many, many more Canadians would rather come here than vice versa. If Michael Moore saw 215,575 Americans emigrate to Canada we would surely have seen it in his film, since people vote with their feet. But of course he would not include the other side of the story in his film either.
 
2007-08-01 06:13:22 PM
All libs are moving to canada? thanks for win in 2008.

/dont come back to vote.
 
2007-08-01 06:14:21 PM
Retards as far as the eye can see... All of you.
 
2007-08-01 06:14:29 PM
oh my lord oldfarhenry- is that my favorite real life peter pan?

/thats hot
 
2007-08-01 06:14:35 PM
`"As great as Canada is, It's very hard to start a business and get rich up here. Canada is generally great for living and raising a family."

Right, if you care more about money than your family, you should be in America.
 
2007-08-01 06:14:37 PM
Wake me up when Alec Baldwin finally leaves.

/Will vote for Bush again when Jeb runs
 
2007-08-01 06:14:57 PM
Handsome B. Wonderful: This might come as a shock to Americans, but it's to get away from the oppressive taxes. That free health care isn't as free as you think it is.

NO ONE THINKS THAT IT IS FREE.

NO ONE.
 
2007-08-01 06:14:59 PM
Doc Daneeka: Stephen Harper is a Conservative, no?

Yup, he just hasn't been ordained by Christ. Yet.
 
2007-08-01 06:16:06 PM
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All Aprove

/possum lodge!
//"If the women don't find you handsome
///They should at least find you handy"
 
2007-08-01 06:16:35 PM
I love Canada, but if there was a similar job available in San Diego and the paperwork wasn't too bad, I'd be on a plane tomorrow.

Hell, we're pretty much the same country anyway.
 
2007-08-01 06:16:35 PM
Pelagius: They're takin our jerbs!

Awsome. This thread is over.

/ Back to the piile!
 
2007-08-01 06:16:52 PM
notimeforhippies: The stats indicate that emigration is up (from 5,828 in 2000 to 10,942 in 2006), with the implication that people are increasingly unhappy with the United States. And I give credit for ABC citing that immigration from Canada to the USA is still much higher (23,913 in 2006, down from 29,930 in 2005.)

But these figures are useless given that the populations of the two countries are nowhere close to similar. When you factor in those figures, it tells a much different story. Canadian population according to the CIA Factbook is 33.4M, compared to an American population of 301.1M. So Canadian population is outnumbered roughly 9 to 1. Applying those proportions to the ABC figures, that means that .0716% of the Canadian population emigrated to the USA in 2006, versus .0036% of the American population. Those figures tell a whole different story. Even as Canadians are outnumbered 9 to 1, they still have 219% more emigrants than immigrants to/from the US.

Given all the hype about "Sicko" and how the Canadian system is so much better than the United States, you would think that at a minimum American emigration would be at least comparable to the opposite case, but it's not. Many, many more Canadians would rather come here than vice versa. If Michael Moore saw 215,575 Americans emigrate to Canada we would surely have seen it in his film, since people vote with their feet. But of course he would not include the other side of the story in his film either.


Did you check the difference in immigration requirements?
 
2007-08-01 06:17:04 PM
It could be that Canadians move to the US for jobs and what not, but still retain Canadian citizenship (dual citizenship of US and Canada is allowed by both countries) for the health services. And on the other hand, US citizens, especially those in the rust belt close to the US-Canadian border, are so hard up they can't just up and move. They're pinned down by debt and other constraints and would probably move to Canada if not for the constraints and the daily whining of right-wing radio telling them how bad Canada is.

See, there is a logical reason for the disparity.
 
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