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(SanDiego UnionTribune)   Not News: Package falls of a truck. News: Blocks major thoroughfare in San Diego. Fark: It's a 200-ton US Navy ship engine (w/ pic of crushed car goodness)   (signonsandiego.com ) divider line
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2007-07-29 06:35:14 PM  
suck it you stinkin liberal hippie:
Inertia. Read up kids.
Here I was gonna do a bunch of math for them, you go and give a better answer.
 
2007-07-29 06:43:22 PM  
But Will It Blend(TM)?


/no, no it won't.
 
2007-07-29 06:44:21 PM  
Kyosuke: Here I was gonna do a bunch of math for them, you go and give a better answer.

though not any more correct

see 6:29:47
 
2007-07-29 06:46:21 PM  
One would think that anything weighing 200 tons would be "self securing", especially at 2-3 mph.
 
2007-07-29 06:50:39 PM  
Megain: drevil877: If the USS Dubuque is in port, it's probably a replacement engine for them. shiat always happens with anything associated to that ship.

ftfa: The engine, which was destined for a Navy ship under construction,


Knowing the Dubuque, the reporter made a mistake. Seriously, that ship is cursed.
 
2007-07-29 06:53:59 PM  
"Our tax dollars at work".
Un-like the war, no one was seriously hurt and the money didn't go to Dubai!

/Disillusioned and searching for some sign of sanity.
 
2007-07-29 06:56:37 PM  
FarkinNortherner: A woman who was sleeping in one [of the cars] while waiting for her husband to get off work at the shipyard was hurt, but officials said her injuries were minor.


"TA DAthe aristocrats!"


fixed
 
2007-07-29 07:07:45 PM  
So, all we need is about 50,000 folks to push this puppy up off the ground.

We'll get the Comic Con geeks! Ready? PUSH!!

Comic Con geeks have super strength, and all...
 
2007-07-29 07:09:44 PM  
"Dear Strong Bad,

Please demonstrate your skills of an artist falls of a truck."
 
2007-07-29 07:11:37 PM  
Mensabooty
fixed

No, "The Aristocrats" is more properly used in situations of a sexual or scatological nature. "TA-DA" is more properly used in situations of extreme carnage that somehow result in minor or no injuries.

/Internet
//Serious Business
 
2007-07-29 07:19:17 PM  
Yah, 200 tons is the engine itself. The smallest capital ship we currently have, the Perry class frigate, weighs over 4,000 tons altogether. It gets worse from there.

I've seen a contractor that failed to secure a 200 gallon diesel tank on his truck. Don't think he ever went back for it.
 
2007-07-29 07:21:22 PM  
Perhaps someone could explain how something that weighs nearly half a million pounds "falls off" a platform supposedly traveling at 4 mph. I think there would be sufficient friction to keep it on the truck bed, even if it accelerated to that beefy 4mph in like half a second.
 
2007-07-29 07:23:44 PM  
I don't suppose anyone has the "Truck of Fail" pic sitting around for this particularly fitting story?
 
2007-07-29 07:26:13 PM  
Tell me how they know for certain they won't find somebody at the bottom of that crater when the engine gets pulled out.

/And tell me who is this "they" that they keep talking about.
 
2007-07-29 07:26:17 PM  
I was on the base today and saw that they were in the process of pulling it out of the ground.
 
2007-07-29 07:29:14 PM  
Greenline 2007-07-29 07:11:37 PM
No, "The Aristocrats" is more properly used in situations of a sexual or scatological nature. "TA-DA" is more properly used in situations of extreme carnage that somehow result in minor or no injuries.

/Internet
//Serious Business


Ehh. I'm sure there was quite an interesting and Aristocrats-worthy combination of scatological and sexual expressions used immediately after the incident by the truckdriver, car owners, car sleeper, and bystanders.
 
2007-07-29 07:33:02 PM  
waiting4godot

You and all those other douches using "This." suck at life. It's not funny. It doesn't add a damn thing. Just makes you look completely unimaginative.
 
2007-07-29 07:34:08 PM  
Freiheit666

I'd imagine that it crushed the road under the wheels, putting it at an angle.
 
2007-07-29 07:34:21 PM  
this picture is clearly faked!!

where is the water and remains of the fire??

everyone knows that if you drop something heavy on a car it explodes and bursts into flames!!

/everything that I know I learned from the holywoods
 
2007-07-29 07:35:28 PM  
Skwidd 2007-07-29 07:29:06 PM
I would guess the USS Vandegrift. I'll swim to Cuba from Virginia and join their navy before I cross the brow of that floating dumpster ever again.

FFG 48 Vandegrift
USS VANDEGRIFT (FFG 48), named for Gen. Alexander A. Vandegrift, U.S. Marine Corps, was built at Todd Pacific Shipyards in Seattle, Washington, and was commissioned on 24 November 1984. The ship's inaugural cruise began on 5 January 1987. During the course of this around-the-world cruise, it sailed three oceans, seven seas and visited four continents. The plankowners also crossed the international dateline, equator, Greenwich meridian, and sailed through the straits of Gibraltar, and the Suez and Panama canals.

They went for everything on the first cruise. This is what happens when you blow your load too soon...
 
2007-07-29 07:37:33 PM  
LavenderWolf 2007-07-29 07:33:02 PM
waiting4godot

You and all those other douches using "This." suck at life. It's not funny. It doesn't add a damn thing. Just makes you look completely unimaginative.


This.

/okay now I'm just doing it to annoy you...welcome to Fark
 
2007-07-29 07:38:52 PM  
Freiheit666: Perhaps someone could explain how something that weighs nearly half a million pounds "falls off" a platform supposedly traveling at 4 mph. I think there would be sufficient friction to keep it on the truck bed, even if it accelerated to that beefy 4mph in like half a second.

Looking at the pics from the article FarkinNortherner linked to, it seems to be near an intersection. That engine also looks rather tall, so it would probably have a high center of gravity.

If the load isn't properly secured, or the tie-downs are damaged or whatever, then it wouldn't take much for it to slide, tip and fall off. Newtonian motion is a biatch, especially with things that weigh 400,000 pounds.
=Smidge=
 
2007-07-29 07:39:42 PM  
I just realized my link for source vanished. Info on Vandegrift from Globalsecurity-- http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/ffg-48.htm

And oh my god we have a USS Klakring.
 
2007-07-29 07:43:28 PM  
I hope this is the guy who cut me off the other day!
 
2007-07-29 07:43:33 PM  
LavenderWolf:
You and all those other douches using "This." suck at life. It's not funny. It doesn't add a damn thing. Just makes you look completely unimaginative.
Not this.
 
2007-07-29 07:47:17 PM  
did anyone else get an ad for discounted cruse tickets at the top of that article?

i lol'd my ass of
 
2007-07-29 07:48:26 PM  
Freiheit666: Perhaps someone could explain how something that weighs nearly half a million pounds "falls off" a platform supposedly traveling at 4 mph. I think there would be sufficient friction to keep it on the truck bed, even if it accelerated to that beefy 4mph in like half a second.

ZOMG!
take a fricking physics class already
or go outside and experiment with a brick and a board
you will rediscover the laws of friction

the engine didnt JUMP off of the truck
it didnt FALL OFF the truck
it slid toward the ground

clearly
1) the bed it was resting on MUST have been at an angle
2) the angle MUST have been high enough for the static friction to be over come
3) once it was moving, NOTHING was gonna stop it

HELLO dynamic friction is always less than static friction
inertia rules
gravity sucks

don't come back until you have tried a few experiments

PS the weight of the object is irrelevant, make the angle steep enough and EVERYTHING/ANYTHING will fall/slide
 
2007-07-29 07:54:52 PM  
UR DOIN IT WRONG
 
2007-07-29 08:03:57 PM  
I should have submitted this three days ago.

/I should have grabbed my camera and headed downtown to grab some shots.
 
2007-07-29 08:09:00 PM  
Wow, that car got crunched. I hope that was a parked car with no one in it. It's be nice if the article would mention that.
 
2007-07-29 08:16:29 PM  
hopscotch: "Our tax dollars at work".
Un-like the war, no one was seriously hurt and the money didn't go to Dubai!

/Disillusioned and searching for some sign of sanity.


We need the idea of sanity to help us to believe that upbringing and education are worthwhile, that culture works, that whatever is same about us can placated. Sanity is part of tha peculiarly modern vocabulary of hope that depends on progress; on the belief that what makes our lives worth living is that they can be improved.
-Adam Phillips
 
2007-07-29 08:18:04 PM  
oooooh your car has become 2-dimensional
 
2007-07-29 08:27:47 PM  
phlegmmo: Package falls of a truck.

Doesn't anybody know how to spell anymore? Jeez.


Dozn't anyone kno how to use there brain and read past the speling erors anymoore.


/spelling nazi jerk.
 
2007-07-29 08:32:05 PM  
img62.imageshack.us

Oddly fitting this time...
 
2007-07-29 08:39:34 PM  
FTA: It landed with enough force to break the concrete and put a small crater in the street.

"Small"? You call this "small"?
www.signonsandiego.com

BrknPhoenix: Off topic: Thanks Fark for the ads that look NSFW from a distance.

Ads? You get ads?

Ah, the simplicity and wonder of Firefox with the Adblock+ extension. When I want to remember how cluttered and noisy the Intartubes is, I fire up IE7...
 
2007-07-29 09:04:12 PM  
Ok, I had to look this up for sure. To the best of my knowledge, the San Diego Naval Shipyard does not build new ships, they overhaul old ones.

My guess is that it's an engine for an Aegis cruiser undergoing overhaul, or a DDG or FFG. They are powered by gas turbines, while the Austin class LPDs are steam turbine driven. The latter are non-trivial to swap out.
 
2007-07-29 09:08:15 PM  
I wanna see what the engine block off of that blue minivan looks like! Anybody need 300 pounds of foil?
 
2007-07-29 09:12:37 PM  
Somebody's ass is grass.
 
2007-07-29 09:16:58 PM  
I work for the Navy, and I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

NASSCO is currently building the T-AKE-1 (Lewis and Clark) class of Navy re-supply ships. They are powered by medium speed diesel engines. That was a T-AKE engine that was dropped in the street.

I was on the contract selection board that scored the various companies' proposals for building the ships. NASSCO won the contract.

So far the program is doing great. I've helped test and inspect various systems on these ships and the ships are looking pretty good. NASSCO's doing a good job on them.

I'm sure when I go aboard the ship that gets the dropped engine in it eventually, the jokes will be flying fast and furious.

/that thing got a hemi?
//don't even ASK about the LPD-17
 
2007-07-29 09:33:47 PM  
Ishidan: The smallest capital ship we currently have, the Perry class frigate, weighs over 4,000 tons altogether. It gets worse from there.

"It gets worse from there"


/surely, i can't be serious
 
2007-07-29 09:34:41 PM  
namatad: Freiheit666: Perhaps someone could explain how something that weighs nearly half a million pounds "falls off" a platform supposedly traveling at 4 mph. I think there would be sufficient friction to keep it on the truck bed, even if it accelerated to that beefy 4mph in like half a second.

ZOMG!
take a fricking physics class already
or go outside and experiment with a brick and a board
you will rediscover the laws of friction

the engine didnt JUMP off of the truck
it didnt FALL OFF the truck
it slid toward the ground

clearly
1) the bed it was resting on MUST have been at an angle
2) the angle MUST have been high enough for the static friction to be over come
3) once it was moving, NOTHING was gonna stop it

HELLO dynamic friction is always less than static friction
inertia rules
gravity sucks

don't come back until you have tried a few experiments

PS the weight of the object is irrelevant, make the angle steep enough and EVERYTHING/ANYTHING will fall/slide


Wasn't the angle. The load was not securely tied down. It hit a bump or a dip causing the trailer and load to float. The trailer got pulled out from under it putting too much stress on whatever tying was done.

So, yes it did jump off the truck, then it slid off the truck, and before it hit the ground it probably crushed the trailer and fell from the truck.
 
2007-07-29 09:36:43 PM  
That really has no impact on the Comic-con geekfest. That happened down in front of the shipyard in the barrio. Not a lot of ese's and vato's doin the geekfest and most of the convention center traffic comes from the north. It does fark up my drive to work though since I work down there.
 
2007-07-29 09:36:49 PM  
Good thing this happened at night.

hopscotch: Un-like the war, no one was seriously hurt and the money didn't go to Dubai!

I wouldn't be surprised if some of GDs execs make trips to Dubai after hitting Saudi or Isreal up for work.

/shiat, I want to go to Dubai
 
2007-07-29 09:41:35 PM  
Today, a dump truck rolled over and all the ship engines came out. The truck rolled onto more ship engines. It was hard to tell all the ship engines apart. There were no injuries.
 
2007-07-29 09:41:47 PM  
mark12A: I work for the Navy, and I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Awesome, thanks for the clarification. I hadn't thought about it being a combat support ship.

Having seen one of those diesels up close (my uncle sailed on a 700' tanker ship somewhat similarly powered, and gave me a tour), the scale of those is quite impressive. Basically, take huge diesel engine and scale it to, uh, ship size. Picture valves as tall as a man, turbochargers about as big as a subcompact car.
 
2007-07-29 10:15:14 PM  
Looks like a new "Owned" pic to me.
 
2007-07-29 10:15:18 PM  
Megain: more detail, slideshow and news-coverage video from saturday morning here

picture 17 has a ghost in it.
 
2007-07-29 10:35:08 PM  
Freak: magine if she had chosen to sleep in the front rather than the back.

Imagine her call to the insurance company "No, I'm not kidding, there's a boat engine on the front hood of my van".
 
2007-07-29 10:45:55 PM  
mark12A 2007-07-29 09:16:58 PM
/that thing got a hemi?
//don't even ASK about the LPD-17


Hah, I just looked that last one up on GS.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/lpd-17.htm

"As of October 1999 it was reported that the LPD-17 could cost as much $245 million above the original estimate, a 41 percent cost increase for the first ship in that class. And as of March 2000 Litton Industries was about 30 percent over budget and 10 months behind schedule in building the LPD-17, which was estimated to cost $802 million -- $185 million more than its $617-million target cost."

...clusterfark...

"As a class, these ships will overcome amphibious lift shortfalls caused by the decommissioning of aging LPDs, LSTs, LKAs, and LSDs. Maintaining projected delivery schedules and attaining operational readiness of this ship class is key to eradicating existing shortfalls in amphibious lift. Of particular concern is the high average age of amphibious ships which have high maintenance costs, higher manning levels, and lower reliability compared to ships being built today. The introduction of the LPD 17 into the fleet is intended to mitigate this problem."

...clusterfark due to describing mission in large words...

"The ship also incorporates the latest quality of life standards for the embarked sailors and Marines, including sit-up berthing, a ship services mall, a fitness center and a learning resource center/electronic classroom with the flexibility to accommodate mixed gender sailors and Marines. Medical facilities include 124 beds and two operating rooms. They are the first USN ships designed from the outset to accommodate women crewmembers."

...I see the problem right there...nah just joking

"Request for proposals were issued April 1996, with the "winner-take-all'' contract awarded December 1996 to a consortium of Avondale Shipyards, Bath Iron Works, Hughes, Loral, Sperry Marine, CAE, AT&T, and Intergraph, with every third ship to be built at Bath's facility in Maine and the others in Louisiana. On December 17, 1996 Avondale Industries, Inc., Avondale, LA, was awarded a $641,370,625 cost-plus-award-fee contract for detail design, integration and construction of USS San Antonio (LPD 17), Amphibious Transport Dock Ship, with options for construction of LPD-18 and LPD-19. On April 7, 1997 the General Accounting Office (GAO) denied the protest by the Ingalls Shipbuilding team with respect to the initial contract to design, construct and support the LPD-17."

...OK NOW I see the problem. Winner take all contracts ALWAYS run into shiat, because all parties paint the rosiest picture possible. Write in a "shiat happens" buffer in your bid package, and you'll lose the bid. Don't write one in, and your project managers will ride your workers until they break, trying to come in under your unrealistic bid.
 
2007-07-29 11:06:41 PM  
oldhag:
To ere is human.

Boy, you just ain't whistlin' dixie, are you?

/not a spelling nazi
//couldn't resist this one
 
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