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(National Review)   Obama pledges to meet with leaders from Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela in his first year as president   (corner.nationalreview.com) divider line 186
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2007-07-24 07:18:00 PM
Aexia: FlashLV: Done with Fark, no one wants to hear anything about the other side.

Yeah, that's why you're being asked to actually back up your opinions.

Much easier to throw a temper tantrum and run.


Not a tantrum, just something needed to do. I can get the same argument from a 3rd grader.
 
2007-07-24 07:18:53 PM
Man, I head home and I miss all the best parts of FlashLV's biatchy whining..
 
2007-07-24 07:22:21 PM
FlashLV: Not a tantrum, just something needed to do. I can get the same argument from a 3rd grader.

That should work out well, considering you give the same arguments as a third grader.

Get going already.
 
2007-07-24 07:22:22 PM
FlashLV: because the thread was about them. I get flamed if I talk about only people the thread is about I get flamed if I talk about people that the threads not about.

I give up.

Done with Fark, no one wants to hear anything about the other side.

Have fun with your one-sided arguments.


But, I'm asking about "the other side." You made an assertion/argument - that meeting or negotiating with these dictators would legitimize them. Others in the thread responded by pointing out that the US has, in the past, met and negotiated with plenty of dictators, some far worse than the people mentioned in this article/headline. Their argument, by analogy, is: why was it OK to meet with those dictators, and not OK to meet with these dictators?

I am asking to hear your response, because I am interested in your argument.

Don't refuse to make your argument and then say things like "have fun with your one-sided arguments." Instead, make the arguments two-sided - make your arguments...
 
2007-07-24 07:31:50 PM
Wow FlashLV, you really are a lost cause. It was very entertaining watching your written diarrhea spew through the internet. You seriously just don't get it.

I must be hard to admit that your "well thoughtout" opinions are a load of shiat, time and time again.

I kinda feel sorry for you.
 
2007-07-24 07:42:53 PM
FlashLV: Not a tantrum, just something needed to do. I can get the same argument from a 3rd grader.

You're not arguing. You're refusing to argue and then whining that no one wants to hear your side.
 
2007-07-24 07:51:02 PM
Wow, that was like a good season finale.
 
2007-07-24 07:51:12 PM
FlashLV
Hey...so are you a total masochist or what? Why doesn't this ever get old for you?

/no really, i'm serious
//cause reading it gets old pretty fast
 
2007-07-24 07:56:08 PM
FlashLV
It's good policy to make friends with our allies enemies, huh?

Not that meeting implies befriending, but certainly in some cases I could see that being good policy. For instance, if your ally was running amok and creating chaos that was blowing back on you, it might be important to broker a peace by having a sit-down with the other side.
 
2007-07-24 08:03:50 PM
robot_in_disguise: FlashLV
Hey...so are you a total masochist or what? Why doesn't this ever get old for you?

/no really, i'm serious
//cause reading it gets old pretty fast


It is old, that's why I'm leaving.

It gets old being told you're wrong over and over again just because they don't agree with you.

Have a good one all, last post!
 
2007-07-24 08:05:06 PM
FlashLV: It is old, that's why I'm leaving.

It gets old being told you're wrong over and over again just because they don't agree with you.

Have a good one all, last post!


Then just leave, you whiny farking biatch! Jesus Christ, if I wanted to go through this shiat for so long I'd put on some Linkin Park and read some LiveJournal.
 
2007-07-24 08:05:39 PM
robot_in_disguise: FlashLV
Hey...so are you a total masochist or what? Why doesn't this ever get old for you?

/no really, i'm serious
//cause reading it gets old pretty fast


upload.wikimedia.org

Don't feed the troll

Besides, it looks like he's gone home for the day. Either that or he left his basement to get something to eat.
 
2007-07-24 08:14:29 PM
VICE-President

Hilary aint takin' no back seat to this clown.
 
2007-07-24 08:31:29 PM
Wow, I missed everything.

I hope Stormfront or Free Republic will be a better fit for him.
 
2007-07-24 08:37:01 PM
FlashLV: It is old, that's why I'm leaving.

It gets old being told you're wrong over and over again just because they don't agree with you.

Have a good one all, last post!


You should post a Cindy Sheehan-style "Goodbye Cruel World" thread in TotalFark just to underline how serious you are about leaving.
 
2007-07-24 08:39:06 PM
Aexia: You should post a Cindy Sheehan-style "Goodbye Cruel World" thread in TotalFark just to underline how serious you are about leaving.

that made me lol.
 
2007-07-24 08:48:25 PM
FlashLV:
It gets old being told you're wrong over and over again just because they don't agree with you.

Even if you don't plan to post again, I'd like to offer a friendly word of advice - there are lots of forums on the internet where it is considered rude and unacceptable to aggressively question someone and try to make them justify their beliefs. There are even forums where arguments about any subject is not allowed, and the forums are simply for people to share information and experience. This isn't one of those forums.

If you don't like people disagreeing with you and telling you that you are wrong, Fark.com political threads are probably not the best choice of forum. I don't want to give you the impression that I want you to leave, but if it really does upset you to be confronted by people with opposing beliefs, then Fark is unlikely to satisfy you.

Best of luck and I hope you find a more suitable board.
 
2007-07-24 08:54:29 PM
FlashLV: It gets old being told you're wrong over and over again just because they don't agree with you.

Flash....jeez....people in this thread questioned your argument. They asked you why it was OK to talk to some dictators, but not OK to talk to others. They asked you to clarify and defend your arguments. You did not do so.

If you refuse to defend your own arguments, you should expect to be "told you're wrong over and over again."
 
2007-07-24 08:55:49 PM
good riddance
 
2007-07-24 09:04:47 PM
i wish i could be as understanding as bokkibear, but i am not.

Dont let the web-browser hit you in the ass on your way out, FlashLV. I wont miss your threadshiating, false-victim/persecuted complex, blatant trolling, and bullshiat logic.
 
2007-07-24 09:19:49 PM
best meltdown ever.
 
2007-07-24 09:28:35 PM
FlashLV: Dinki: Well let's see- Iran and Syria are major players in the middle east. North Korea is a Nuclear power. Venezuela is a major oil producer. Cuba is a country 90 miles from our shore that is about to undergo major political change. Why any president would want to talk to them is beyond me.

Because they are tyrants and meeting with them shows we think what they are doing is right.


Is that why there are only about 8 countries who'll meet with our tyrant?


Really, come on folks, he's lonely.
img.timeinc.net
 
2007-07-24 09:34:37 PM
Aexia: Might disagree too.

Gorbachev wasn't a tyrant, he was just an idiot who broke one massive totalitarian country into several smaller totalitarian countries.
 
2007-07-24 09:39:11 PM
FlashLV:
It gets old being told you're wrong over and over again

Maybe you wouldn't be told you're wrong over and over again if you weren't, you know, wrong so often.

/wondering what Flash's new login will be
 
2007-07-24 09:41:18 PM
WOOHOOO! FlashLV is getting a new account now! Yeah!!!


But seriously. He'll be back. Just might have a different name.


/bookmarking this thread
//FlashLV finally got 100% owned
 
2007-07-24 09:42:13 PM
I'd meet with Kim too. Poor guy is so ronery.


But seriously. Doing all your tough-talking from Washington and never giving these guys the business face to face probably comes across as personal weakness. Or pettiness.
 
2007-07-24 09:51:19 PM
FlashLV: I get flamed if I talk about only people the thread is about I get flamed if I talk about people that the threads not about.

No, you get flamed for sounding like a complete jackass, regardless of who you're talking about. THAT's why you get flamed. It's not some conspiracy. TFers aren't getting together talking about how we're gonna bash you next. Let me break it down for you:

FlashLV: they are tyrants and meeting with them shows we think they are right.

mrexcess: Our government meets with other nations ALL THE TIME, even when it disagrees with the other side vehemently. You cannot explain WHY it is that simply meeting with representatives of another nation would "show we think what they are doing is right".

FlashLV: Moran, I'm sorry you have a hard time sticking to what the thread is about. The people mentioned in the link, are the people I was speaking about.

Now shove it up your ass.
(Yo FlashLV: mrexcess didn't say you were talking about anyone else but who was in the link - his question was general)

mrexcess: What you said made no sense, and you have yet to explain it in anything approaching a logical fashion.

WHY DOES MEETING WITH A NATION IMPLY ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR BEHAVIORS?
(again, he just wants you to answer this question)

FlashLV: HOLY FARK YOU'RE a farkking moron. That's not what I meant d$#k lover.

Wow. So when you said, specifically, that meeting with tyrants shows we think they are right, you didn't mean that meeting with tyrants shows we think they are right? Seriously?

Do you really not see the flaw in your thinking process here? You think that everyone who's arguing against you is an idiot?

Flash, you really need to either think a little harder before you make an argument, and actually qualify it. If you believe something, you should have some reason for believing it, and you should be able to explain that reason. Aside from some flames, most people just wanted you to give a reason for your belief, and you never did. Instead, you had a tantrum.

/good riddance
 
2007-07-24 10:40:18 PM
That nuts! That would be like if John F. Kennedy had talked to Nikita Khrushchev! Or if Ronald Reagan had negiotated peace with Mikhail Gorbachev at the end of the Cold War! That would have been insane! We can't talk to our enemies! They are evil and we are good. And Good can only defeat evil by proving it is gooder by bombing the evil out of the evil. Then they will see how good we are and want to be good like us too and know if they are not good we will be evil to them again to make them good.
 
2007-07-24 10:44:26 PM
Hope he doesn't give them our nuclear secrets like Clinton did to China.
 
2007-07-24 11:17:21 PM
I can see the salty tears right now as the headphones are put firmly in place...a manly nod...and the booming sounds of Linkin Park's "In the End" wash over FlashLV as he sinks into the corner...
 
2007-07-24 11:20:47 PM
Only Nixon could go to China.
 
2007-07-25 12:45:49 AM
submitter: Obama pledges to meet with leaders from Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela in his first year as president

Good. Maybe he won't f*ck it up like the last few Presidents did.
 
2007-07-25 02:45:24 AM
The FlashLV meltdown. Damn.
 
2007-07-25 03:12:37 AM
HL : Obama pledges to meet with leaders from Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela in his first year as president

Useless - unless there's common grounds to talk about something.

Take Iran, fer instance.
The head guy is a nut case who believes the Holocaust never happened - at the same time he thinks it should happen - and he thinks HE's just the guy to start it off. What kind of person-to-person connection does Obama really think it's possible he can create with the guy? Especially given that - having a Muslim Dad and having attended a Muslim school at one time - but not being a Muslim as an adult - by Iranian standards Obama is a heinous apostate who deserves the death penalty for his heresy?
 
2007-07-25 12:05:30 PM
This thread is like a parody of a flamewar.

/likes Obama
 
2007-07-25 11:17:49 PM
Aexia: Instead of saying something and then later arguing you meant something else, wouldn't it be easier to just say what you mean to begin with?

FlashLV: HA, I've done that many times just to be called a liar. When others have done it and I acknowledged that they corrected it.

Yet when you're asked to post the "work" you claim you "already did" which shows that insulin, penicillin and the polio vaccine were all developed "without any public money involved," you're the one not providing said "evidence" and instead you run crying and screaming to the modmins accusing me of "stalking" you.

It's a game you guys play.

You're a dishonest, shoot-from-the-hip baby who constantly gets pwn3d in every thread you deign to splash your greasy countenance. That's the game you play.

We all know it. Even you. You know deep down in your heart that you are a

Lying Sack of Fail™


Happy trails!
 
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