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(Detroit Free Press)   Stapler-throwing, shotgun-threatening, foulmouthed choir teacher may lose job. However, the real story is whether this is the best "That's a man" photo ever taken   (freep.com) divider line 113
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2007-07-24 10:31:01 AM  
That's Michael Moore, dude.
 
2007-07-24 10:35:15 AM  
That's my father-in-law, dude.
 
2007-07-24 10:39:37 AM  
Holy crap!!

But I was halfway expecting to see my old choir director. She behaved like that all the time!
 
2007-07-24 10:40:56 AM  
BWAHAHAHAHA!!
 
2007-07-24 10:51:25 AM  
Vomit, meet keyboard.
 
2007-07-24 10:52:30 AM  
Maybe her new dick and testosterone patches were making "her" nuts.
 
2007-07-24 10:55:38 AM  
Durendal: Maybe her new dick and testosterone patches were making "her" nuts.

No, you need surgery for those too.
 
2007-07-24 10:57:22 AM  
Actually, she WAS my choir director back in high school. Fantastic teacher with a very loyal group of students supporting her. She wasn't a biatch to anyone who didn't deserve it, and while tough, was incredibly accomodating. I was focused on classical piano at the time, and despite her time demands for rehearsals, was able to partake only in the classical music aspects of the choir without having to do the showchoir.

She brought discipline to a public school setting as well as having one of the strongest choir programs I've seen. Also, the kid quoted in the article, Dan Augustine, was a little prick.

Honestly, it bothers me so much to see her getting this bad press. So many of my former classmates have gone on to professional careers in music, and even those that haven't took a lot from her program.

That said, yes, she is incredibly mannish - and husky-voiced too, to boot.
 
2007-07-24 11:03:55 AM  
here's another pic

www.photopile.com
 
2007-07-24 11:08:26 AM  
and another pic of her, evidently taken with linda richman and jack Nicholson

www.photopile.com
 
2007-07-24 11:10:44 AM  
oh...and hi there Zappagirl. long time no see.
 
2007-07-24 11:24:59 AM  
high school teachers seem to be some of the most bitter, mean-spirited people i've ever known.

she also seems to have a tinge of stage mother syndrome...you know, the whole 'i could have done so much more with my life, but i didn't, so i'm going to live out my dreams through you...whether you want it or not.'
 
2007-07-24 11:31:08 AM  
annie_fannie: whether you want it or not.

Here's the thing though - it's not like choir is mandatory. The kids who join the program and don't like the amount of work are free to leave it.

And she's really not at all mean-spirited - she's a big, warm, huggable, mannish inspiration to most of her students.

A lot of the criticism directed at her is a product of petty jealousy at her long-standing success.
 
2007-07-24 11:31:52 AM  
Oh, and hi Tresser!
 
2007-07-24 11:32:36 AM  
wow, aside from the shotgun thing that sounds exactly like my sixth grade teacher.
He was well known for losing his temper and throwing stuff across the room.

oh, and ...
img401.imageshack.us
 
2007-07-24 11:46:45 AM  
Tresser: and another pic of her, evidently taken with linda richman and jack Nicholson

She looks different with that tie on
 
2007-07-24 12:01:09 PM  
annie_fannie:
high school teachers seem to be some of the most bitter, mean-spirited people i've ever known.
They have to be. The one's that aren't get chewed up and spit out.

\until we begin teaching our children to respect their elders again, it's gonna continue.
 
2007-07-24 12:01:45 PM  
Zappagirl: annie_fannie: whether you want it or not.

Here's the thing though - it's not like choir is mandatory. The kids who join the program and don't like the amount of work are free to leave it.

And she's really not at all mean-spirited - she's a big, warm, huggable, mannish inspiration to most of her students.

A lot of the criticism directed at her is a product of petty jealousy at her long-standing success.


i can understand that you liked this person and went along with her program, but whether it's a mandatory or optional course is beside the point. it's high school. it's not the Peabody Conservatory...and even there, i'm sure the teachers can control themselves enough to refrain from throwing things, threatening people, and swearing.

high school is supposed to be about trying a little everything so you can figure yourself out...and having FUN, it's not about committing yourself to one particular course of study-that's what college is for...and even then, most people have trouble doing that.
 
2007-07-24 12:13:33 PM  
annie_fannie: high school is supposed to be about trying a little everything so you can figure yourself out...and having FUN

Well...I guess that's where I sort of disagree. I feel that high school is about teaching you math, English, science, social studies - the basics - and not in a fun way - in a 'you need to know this' kind of a way. Everything else is icing on the cake. That said, I agree that electives like choir should be fun - and our high school did have two different choirs - the regular choir for those who didn't want to commit the time and just wanted to have fun, and the Pointe Singers, which was by audition only, and was where the real time-commitment came into play. So for those who just wanted to dabble in choir - there was an option. The problem was that everyone wanted to get into Pointe Singers because of the reputation - that led to some rather pissed off people when they failed to live up to its standards or didn't manage to get in.

/fully admits pro-Ellen Bowen bias
//mother is a piano teacher who makes Ellen Bowen look like a post-boobies-link kitten
 
2007-07-24 12:16:26 PM  
No debate at all. That's a man, baby.
 
2007-07-24 12:16:59 PM  
Zappagirl: Actually, she WAS my choir director back in high school. Fantastic teacher with a very loyal group of students supporting her. She wasn't a biatch to anyone who didn't deserve it, and while tough, was incredibly accomodating. I was focused on classical piano at the time, and despite her time demands for rehearsals, was able to partake only in the classical music aspects of the choir without having to do the showchoir.

She brought discipline to a public school setting as well as having one of the strongest choir programs I've seen. Also, the kid quoted in the article, Dan Augustine, was a little prick.

Honestly, it bothers me so much to see her getting this bad press. So many of my former classmates have gone on to professional careers in music, and even those that haven't took a lot from her program.

That said, yes, she is incredibly mannish - and husky-voiced too, to boot.


That's an awful lot of typing to say "Blablabla, so I'm really getting a kick out this thread"

/I keed, I keed
 
2007-07-24 12:17:28 PM  
Mom?
 
2007-07-24 12:18:57 PM  
NewportBarGuy:

That cant be moore, he doesnt have a stupid ass baseball cap on and his hair actually looks groomed.
 
2007-07-24 12:20:02 PM  
He-Man got old!

www.heman.altervista.org
 
2007-07-24 12:20:09 PM  
content.answers.com
Ms. Garrison?
 
2007-07-24 12:20:26 PM  
Holy fark. That's a man, baby.
 
2007-07-24 12:21:30 PM  
GOMER113: He-Man got old!

I can't believe I never saw it...and I watch He-Man all the time...
 
2007-07-24 12:21:45 PM  
Mom?
Dad?
 
2007-07-24 12:21:46 PM  
www.filmfodder.com

/$5000 and the biatch is gone
 
2007-07-24 12:21:51 PM  
It's Phil Donahue baby!
 
2007-07-24 12:22:12 PM  
BIG QUESTION!!!

Was that a red stapler the tranny was throwing?
 
2007-07-24 12:22:16 PM  
Dad?
 
2007-07-24 12:22:24 PM  
xibo.com


/would hit it-- its just business
//one of my favourite movies
 
2007-07-24 12:22:49 PM  
That picture is nothing. When I was growing up, there was an A&P supermarket near me. An old lady that worked there as a cashier had a mustache. That always freaked me out, but at least she was a nice cashier.
 
2007-07-24 12:23:46 PM  
cmsimg.freep.com

O come on!
 
2007-07-24 12:24:02 PM  
Is this the same teacher who was denounced by a student right after the student finished her solo? It was on here a few weeks ago. The girl finished her solo at a choir performance, then gave a Terrets-worthy encore of profanity followed by an explanation that it was an example of the kind of abuse the kids had to endure from their teacher. Related or separate? Anyone?

Perhaps there's a plague of foul-mouthed choir teachers...
 
2007-07-24 12:24:21 PM  
It could be worse.

It could be an article about how the transvestite teacher was having sex with a male student.

Go on, just picture that...
 
2007-07-24 12:25:02 PM  
Apparently is takes a lot of balls to teach highschool choir

/gross
//at least it wasn't sex ed.
 
2007-07-24 12:26:10 PM  
Zappagirl:

Also, the kid quoted in the article, Dan Augustine, was a little prick.

You better hope he doesn't read this public forum. Lawsuits have been filed for less than that.
 
2007-07-24 12:27:07 PM  
The good news for her is that she has a definite future in reality TV.
 
2007-07-24 12:27:14 PM  
I'd hit it in F minor
 
2007-07-24 12:28:08 PM  
Apparently subby has never served time in a Kansas High School

/Most of my female teachers looked like that
//Mrs. Wright was hittable
///Slashies!
 
2007-07-24 12:28:28 PM  
anyone want my lunch? BECAUSE I DONT!
 
2007-07-24 12:29:23 PM  
Mr Holland's Opiss, it's a man baby!
 
2007-07-24 12:29:28 PM  
I think she got hit by the ugly stapler.
 
2007-07-24 12:29:28 PM  
skinink: That picture is nothing. When I was growing up, there was an A&P supermarket near me. An old lady that worked there as a cashier had a mustache. That always freaked me out, but at least she was a nice cashier.

There is a Hispanic lady that works at a convenience store near the house who is sporting the stache. My five year old said to me as we were leaving the store that he thought that was a very nice man. Should have seen the look of confusion on his face when I told him, "that's a woman".
 
2007-07-24 12:29:41 PM  
I saw "throw staplers" and for a moment I thought it was my jr hi choir teacher... then I saw the rest and I was like, "nope."

Mine liked to throw her shoe, an occasional eraser, stuff like that. But she was definitely a woman, baby: diminutive, red haired, with green eyes that, when they started to glow, everyone shut up or ran.

She was awesome. Hard driving and brilliant.

//oh where are you now, Mrs. Nelson?
///lawlz
 
2007-07-24 12:29:50 PM  
badgerb: Lawsuits have been filed for less than that

Didn't say he HAD a little prick - I said he WAS a little prick...
 
2007-07-24 12:30:14 PM  
badgerb:
You better hope he doesn't read this public forum. Lawsuits have been filed for less than that.
You think he's willing to pull his prick out and court and prove otherwise?
 
2007-07-24 12:30:14 PM  
artsedge.kennedy-center.org
 
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